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13 Dec 2017 21:57:42
Ottawa gets Barzal, leddy, 1st 2018

NYI gets Karlsson

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13 Dec 2017 22:40:10
No where near enough for karlsson lol ottawa laughs at this.

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13 Dec 2017 21:18:31
To Edmonton
Karlsson

To Ottawa
Hopkins
Nurse
Klefbom
2018 1st
2019 2nd

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13 Dec 2017 21:34:24
If that’s what it takes to get Karlsson, I don’t think it’s worth it. Especially a team like Edmonton who has spent years collecting all the young talent they have. Trading those pieces away is a step backwards IMO.

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13 Dec 2017 21:45:50
Quality doesn't mean quantity. Ottawa wants quality in return not just scraps. Only good player in return is Klefbom. Hopkins ain't much quality and so is nurse.

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13 Dec 2017 22:16:22
Your not to smart if you think rnh is not quality player if he was in Ottawa right now he would be there number one center lmao but I think his asking price is going to be to much probably around 13 a year oilers can't afford that.

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13 Dec 2017 21:00:07
To St-Louis
Nyquist

To Detroit
2018 2nd
Schmaltz
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To Edmonton
Hoffman

To Ottawa
Bear
2019 3rd

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13 Dec 2017 21:09:43
Believe it or not the Oilers are most likely not interested in trading their best top D prospect, (a right handed offensive one they need as well) for a $6M winger.

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13 Dec 2017 21:10:50
Who the hell is bear? Ottawa isn’t giving away one of their best forwards for a third and a random player.

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13 Dec 2017 21:15:24
not sure if edmonton needs a lwr but he is good. Bear is also a nice asset. But i would think an A lvl prospect elc is worth more than a 25-30 goal scorer with 2 years. You would have to take maroon or another cap equivalent player back. Oilers need to watch their cap.

As for the st. louis deal that won't work blues can not take on 5 mil already at the cap. I just don't see a possible solution for the blues. Det would have to retain or take gunnerson and another 1mil person then at that point you wouldn't get schmaltz. it just doesn't make sense. Need to trade Jaybo to free up money.

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13 Dec 2017 21:34:50
Yup you wouldn’t trade Bear and a 3rd for Hoffman? I’m kind of excited to see what Bear turns into, could have a Montour type start to his career if we’re lucky. But Oil would actually get a left wing with skill. I’m sure Ottawa wouldn’t do it though.

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13 Dec 2017 19:00:52
Ottawa - Karlsson

For

Dallas - Klingberg, Gurianov, rights to Nichushkin and a 2018 2nd round pick

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13 Dec 2017 19:16:24
Bruh that’s not even close.

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13 Dec 2017 19:49:34
We really talk about Eric Karlsson, that’s not even the half of his value, the minimum was to add Jamie Benn or Seguin!

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13 Dec 2017 22:47:21
Karlsson is the best defenceman and top 3 player in the world next only to mcdavid and Crosby. to get him it will start with 2 elite players and at least 1 bad contract like Phaneuf going with him. this particular deal is laughable at best!

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13 Dec 2017 18:59:35
Ottawa needs to blowup their team.

OTT: Duschene
PIT: 1st Round 2018 or 2019 (depending on OTT/ COL pick being traded), 2nd Round 2018, Sprong

OTT: Hoffman
SJ: Meier, 2nd Round Pick 2018

OTT: Karlsson
DAL: Faska, Honka, Heiskanen, 1st Round Pick 2019

OTT: Ryan
LV: Leipsic

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13 Dec 2017 19:17:57
Huge no from Pitt
Huge no from San Jose
Honestly I think Sens could get better
Huge no from Vegas.

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13 Dec 2017 19:42:54
Lol. And this is just the beginning, these are already starting to be annoying. Poor Karlsson.

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13 Dec 2017 19:50:53
Wayyy to much for Duchene
And nothing for Karlsson.

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13 Dec 2017 22:23:55
Huh. No from Sens on all except the last one .

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13 Dec 2017 22:51:55
All huge no from ottawa

They ain't trading Duchene for any less than what they gave up for him don't kid yourself

Karlsson is worth 20x that

Hoffman also worth 20x that

And Ryan is a better asset than that nobody from Vegas even with his contract.

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13 Dec 2017 18:43:03
Mtl) Danault
Ott) Pageau

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13 Dec 2017 18:47:10
I most love Danault then Pageau, Danault make so much for the Canadiens, last season 1st line center!

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13 Dec 2017 22:24:35
No thanks. again. Pageau has more value to the team than he does on paper. not worth trading him.

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13 Dec 2017 18:19:52
With all these Karl rumours, i just thought i should give my two cents as a sens fan.
IF Karl were to be traded, i think we would 100% need a young Elite Center coming back. Such as a Draisaitl or a Barzal, as i've seen posted already. Someone *established* in the league as a top young player.

Looking at the theoretical team in relation to a Karlsson trade, the Sens would need a top 9/6 winger, and could always use 1st rounders to help fill the cupboards.

Also maybe a Defenseman who can fill the minutes left by Karlsson. Maybe a sold Right handed Defensive Defenceman to play with Chabot?

Now i'm not saying that they should get all of those in one trade straight up for Karl ofc. But if we were to trade him, those would be the needs that we need to fill.
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But i would love something along these lines.

OTT: Karlsson, Pageau
NYI: Barzal, Leddy, Hosang, 1st, 2nd, 2nd
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OTT:
Karlsson (6.5m)
Pageau (3.1m)

total: 9.6m

NYI:
Barzal (0.863m ELC)
Leddy (5.5m)
Hosang (0.863m ELC)

total: 7.1m

- NYI takes on 2.5 mil in extra cap space.
- They currently have 3.2m cap space per CapFriendly
- After this season they will no longer have to pay Kulemin (4.187m) and Halak (4.5m) that money can go to Karl's new contract
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Ryan - Barzal - Stone
Hoffman - Duchene - Hosang
Dzingel - Brassard - Smith
Pyatt - Thompson - Burrows

Leddy - Phaneuf
Chabot - Claessen
Boroweicki - Ceci

Anderson
Condon
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Lee - Tavares - Bailey
Ladd - Pageau - Eberle
Beauvillier - Nelson - Quine
Chimera - Cizikas - Clutterbuck

Pulock - Karlsson
Dehaan - Pelech
Hickey Sidenberg

Greiss
Halak
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Idk. Let me know what you guys think. who adds.

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13 Dec 2017 19:21:30
Gonna say no from Islanders, but yes I do think the value is close. IMO i'd add Pulock instead of Leddy as he is younger and also right hand shot and I think that makes more sense for sens (and way cheaper than Leddy) .
But I don’t think Islanders should commit to that unless Tavares is 100% going to sign in NY, but I mean I couldn’t see him not if the best defenseman was coming haha. This is interesting good post.

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13 Dec 2017 20:25:55
Not bad. Mcjesus is right tho. Can’t make this trade until JT is committed, for 2 reasons. #1 is obviously that getting Karlsson means you think you can win, but losing your best player 6 months later can’t happen. And secondly, Barzal can only be traded if Tavares is there for the next 5 years at least because as much as they have some good young players in the system, no one but Barzal has a legit chance of being a star #1 center.

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13 Dec 2017 22:27:48
alright thanks for the input McJesus.

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13 Dec 2017 14:18:57
If sens are committed to tearing it down, they should have done it 6 weeks ago obviously before the Duchene trade. But if he is available, like it’s been suggested, what about

Edmonton - Hoffman
Ottawa- Yamamoto.

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13 Dec 2017 15:30:45
I hit send accidentally. Don’t know if 1 for 1 would do it for either team. But I think it gives oilers a real scoring threat on the wing for today, and gives the sens a kid with a ton of potential to add to white and Chabot and brown as their next core. Obviously this only happens if Sens are blowing it up. If they’re serious about trading the core, imagine those 4 prospects, plus what they would get for Karlsson/ Brassard/ Stone etc.

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13 Dec 2017 17:25:05
Good base.

Dont know how the Oil will be able to afford Hoff with Lucic, Russell and Sekeras huge contracts + McD and Drais. Maybe they send some cap in some way back.

Imo though, Oil add to Hoff for Moto. Cause Hoff is a proven player with 50 point years to his name. But definetky not a bad base.

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13 Dec 2017 18:22:39
Yeah, no way Ottawa does this lol. Hoffman is a sniper, probably one of the best shots in the nhl.

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13 Dec 2017 19:22:57
Would love Hoffman on Edmonton but he’s 28 and Yama is 19. No I would not do that one for one age difference is way too much.

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13 Dec 2017 20:59:46
I get the age gap is tough for Edmonton to take, but if oilers want a proven sniper like they have been Apparently looking for, they’re going to have to give someone significantly younger. No one is trading a 25-30 year old top 6 for a similar age or older guy. Defeats the purpose of moving Hoffman or anyone like him. What would oilers want to trade for Hoffman, patches, JVR type players? Maroon, Lucic, strome, Kassian, Russell, Sekera isn’t getting it done. So it’s either good young players that aren’t on the roster now, or some of your better core players which makes no sense. Don’t see them getting a guy that can score 30 goals for them if 1 late first rounder prospect is too steep lol.

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13 Dec 2017 22:30:13
As much as i loved Yamomoto at the draft, i'm not sure we need another RW. and for the price that were giving up (a 27/ 29/ 25 goal scorer) I certainly hope that Kailer has the potential to be a 1st line RW/ C.

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13 Dec 2017 08:12:05
OTT - Dougie Hamilton + Matthew Tkachuk + Rasmus Andersson + First Round Pick
CGY - Erik Karlsson (Signed)

BUF - Evander Kane
CGY - Michael Stone + Adam Ruzicka + Oliver Kylington + Second Round Pick

Apparently Doiron requested Karlssons no trade list and Flames are a front runner for Kane.

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13 Dec 2017 14:40:09
No way Calgary trades for Karlsson, makes zero sense to get another top d man especially if it involves losing one of their best wingers, a position they are struggling to find offence at. I’m not saying value is off because Karlsson is (in my opinion) the 3rd best player in the world but overall I don’t think Calgary i'd the right destination if he were to leave.

The second one I like. Makes sense for both teams but I would only look into Kane if there was a good chance he’d resign.

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13 Dec 2017 16:14:10
Karlsson is not allowed to sign an extension until July 1st 2018. So that can’t really technically be a condition unless the trade isn’t made until the summer. He could say he has the intention of re-signing, but not a chance that the union will let a team hold a player to a verbal commitment he made 18 months before he’s a UFA.

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13 Dec 2017 03:25:17
I read these on the most recent Score post about a Karlsson trade.

DAL: Heiskanen, Faksa, Oettinger, '18 1st
OTT: Karlsson

EDM: Klefbom, '18 1st, (Maybe) RNH
OTT: Karlsson

PHI: Patrick, Hagg, 2 '18 1st's
OTT: Karlsson

Out of all of them, i think i prefer the EDM one, since Klefbom is a guarantee's top 4 D. Also, If the draft were today, those picks would be #3(sens) and #4(oil). That would be great to have 2 top 4 picks. And having RNH would make Brassard expendable which we could probably get like a late first for.

Let me know what you guys think. Very curious to see what DAL, EDM and PHI fans think.

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13 Dec 2017 07:03:10
The Oilers one is bad for the Sens.

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13 Dec 2017 07:04:33
More from EDM, PHI and DAL

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13 Dec 2017 08:11:25
From an Oilers fan perspective, it’s fine. Maybe the 1st being top 10 protected or something. But honestly Chiarelli is the kinda dude that would give Karlsson an 8 year 12.5 mill contract right when he hits 29, and that’s an L. Is it just me or is there something different about him? He playing with an injury? Bad team? He’s just not near his normal 75 point self, skating seems a bit off. There’s just risk that he needs to overcome before a big deal, hearing people already thinking his best years are behind him and this is a “Forsberg type ordeal”.

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13 Dec 2017 08:34:47
What Flying V? Absolutely not protected. lool.

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13 Dec 2017 11:54:13
I agree with Flying V about he the fact Karlsson seems a bit off. he has had 2 that I know of significant ankle injuries, I wonder if that is catching up to him. I'd be weary aboit wanting to sign him to big money long term. no doubt he has been the best offensive D man in the game for quite awhile now, and he's going to get his big payday, as he probably should. as a Habs fan, I'm starting to not like this long term big money contracts at the end of your careers. Lol. I'd like to see long terms till 35. then 2 year max deals. players would hate it forsure.
As for the trade, well I don't agree with Flying V bout pick protected. if your going to get Karlsson. your going to pay.
The Philly one. take out 1 of the picks but add Ghost.

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13 Dec 2017 18:24:14
No one is trading a guy like Karlsson without at least the chance of a top pick coming back. If anyone’s pick is protected in these talks, the phone call is over.

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13 Dec 2017 19:25:48
Klef Nuge and a first for Karlsson I’ll take that anyday. Oilers have too many LHD as it is and we’re still getting way better with Karlsson and only adding a bit of cap is you combine Nuge and Klef, if Karlsson were to get mcdavids cap hit.

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