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28 Mar 2017 05:10:27
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2017
PHI: Sanheim

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28 Mar 2017 05:04:39
WPG: 1st Round Pick 2017, Copp
CLB: Murray

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28 Mar 2017 01:05:23
Anaheim:
K. Rychel LW

Toronto:
K. Bieksa D
2018 2nd

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28 Mar 2017 01:58:44
Easy no from Toronto soley based on the fact that it would force us to expose Carrick or a solid forward for the expansion draft.

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28 Mar 2017 01:01:06
Florida:
J. Gardiner D
J. Van Riemsdyk LW
2nd 2017

Toronto:
A. Ekblad D
3rd 2018

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28 Mar 2017 01:29:39
And this makes sense for Florida because?

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28 Mar 2017 02:00:09
Your trade suggestions are invigorating.

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27 Mar 2017 23:48:50
Just a thought.


H. Sedin + D. Sedin (both 30% Salary Retention) to Montreal Canadiens in exchange for T. Plekanec + N. Beaulieu + N. Scherbak + Z. Fucale + 1st Round Pick


Cap-Wise:
5.1+5.1 (10.2) to Montreal
6.0 + 2.0 + 925K + 925K (10) to Vancouver


Why I think this trade makes sense.

For Montreal:
Carey Price is approaching 30. Without him, the Habs aren't going anywhere quick. Their window of oppurtunity is NOW. With no bluechip prospects besides Sergachev, a core of Weber/ Patches/ Price has to win now. Bringing in two established players eliviate the team, and makes them a true cup contender in the east. The Sedins get a chance at the cup, and they could truely make the Habs a force to be recokened with for at least 2 more years,

For Vancouver:
It may seem like a small return for such established players, but hear me out. After having 40 point seasons, the Sedins values are at an alltime low. They aren't getting any younger, so teams won't be paying a premium for them.

However, with the household name, they could still garner a decent return. Although it would be tough for Vancouver to part with them, keeping them and letting them retire for nothing makes no sense. Benning finally had sense to make rebuilding moves at the deadline, he should continue on that trend.

This team need a rebuild. Nikita Scherbak could be like a Jonathan Dahlen, a nifty sniper who could be a middle six guy in the future (similiar to Kasperi Kapanen of the leafs) . Beaulieu has been out of favour with the Habs, and could use a fresh start with a younger Canucks team. he's still young, so there is potential.

Fucale is a wildcard, could potentially be the AHL starter for Utica next year, and could eventually be the NHL backup to Demko, but that's a big IF. he's a gamble that the Canucks should take. Plekanec is there for salary, but who knows, if he is a good leader and has a decent season, retain salary and ship him to a playoff team at the next deadline. The first is the main piece, as the Nucks get a probable 20th-23rd overall pick in a little underwhelming 2017 draft.


Thoughts? And no, I'm no biased habs fan, I just thought this could work.

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27 Mar 2017 19:51:00
I've seen this one thrown around elsewhere. What do you say?

Devils:
-C Adam Henrique

Kings:
-D Jake Muzzin

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27 Mar 2017 22:05:05
Since top 4 dmen seem to be the most coveted player now, and you can argue Muzzin is a very capable number 2, I think Jersey adds maybe a 2nd or decent prospect capable of being a being a 3rd liner.

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27 Mar 2017 22:40:40
how will new jersey score?

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27 Mar 2017 04:24:20
EDM: RNH
MIN: Dumba

EDM: Ebs + 2nd
Ott: Ceci + Pageau.

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27 Mar 2017 06:39:46
No from minny they don't need another center and no from Ottawa. In my opinion ottawa doesn't have great defense as a whole. Ceci should stay.

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27 Mar 2017 12:15:57
Agree with McJ above. Minny has Granlund, Staal, Koivu, and a couple other guys like Coyle who can step in and play center.

And Ottawa is very thin on D, Ceci is barely a top 4 defender yet he's heavily leaned on for them.

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27 Mar 2017 15:52:58
Kaner88

Oilers do not have a 2nd this year.

Both deals are a complete insult. Oilers quickly dismiss these 1 sided biased trades. You do not trade top 6 forwards for Dmen that are not even as good as the #6 and 7 that you have on the current roster!
Not well thought out at all with organizational suicide as the result for the Oilers.

To net these 2 TOP 6 FORWARDS Minni and Ottawa will have to give up Karlson and Suter in the package or these 2 do not change jerseys.

Counter offer by Oilers for the bottom 6 / Depth Dmen offered.

1. Sub Hendrix and Musil, in for RNH to get a #7 possibly #8 on the Oilers depth charts Dman in Dumba.


2. Keep Pageau, Sub Dillon Simpson, or Musil and 3rd round pick maybe for Eberle and you're in the ballpark for a #6 dman if he can beat out Benning and Gryba who are both playing better than Ceci right now for a lot less money.


Larsson, Klefbom, Sekera, Russel, Nurse, Benning >>> Ceci and Dumba

Ceci and Dumba would be lucky to beat out Gryba for the #7 spot on the roster.


Lol, Trade top 6'ers for depth D.
What you're suggesting is along the same lines of:

Johnathan Toews for Roman Polak

Patrick Kane for Philip Larson.

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27 Mar 2017 16:31:52
Anyone else find it funny how some people are saying no from teams not named Edmonton. (Including an Oilers fan) but FT4A thinks this is a disgrace of an offer for Edmonton?

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27 Mar 2017 17:14:59
Ft4a your evaluation of dumba is laughable. he is easily a second pairing defense on most teams (especially on oils porus d) get a grip on reality

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27 Mar 2017 17:25:46
Xcing.
I find it funny that anyone could possibly think this is anything but a Complete 110% Joke. If there's an Oilers fan that thinks this is a good deal. Oil Nation needs to find him and ostracize him from Northern Alberta!

So. let's put this into world colored RED glasses perspective for you and I eagerly await your comment on the matter.

Trade proposed is equivalent to trading:
Monahan + 2nd for Dumba and Little J for Ceci and Pageau?

Is THAT a fair trade?


More perspective in case anyone doesn't fully understand.

Laine + 2nd and Scheiffle for Ceci and Dumba equivalent ( For peg fans )

Pacccoretti + 2nd and Galchenyk for Ceci and Dumba ( For habs fans )

Marner + 2nd and Matthews for Ceci and Dumba ( For Leafs fans )

There is no way in H. E. Double hockey sticks any of these teams trade their top 6 forwards for bottom 6 / depth defense.

So let's just stop being silly here and move onto something that has even a slight semblance of reality to it!

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27 Mar 2017 17:50:19
I've honestly gotten so used to it by now it doesn't surprise me that he is comparing RNH to Toews and Eberle to Kane.

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27 Mar 2017 17:52:41
Dumba would easily be a top 3 defenceman on blueline you imbecile not to mention RNH has struggled this year and is very injury prone.
Dumba > RNH.

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27 Mar 2017 18:13:17
McRazzle.
Incorrect. No comparison between Edmonton's top 6 forwards RNH and Eberle and Chicago's top 6 forwards Kane and Toews was made.

Kane and Toews >> Eberle and RNH for the record.

Comparison made to help Kaner88 put into perspective that top 6 forwards don't get traded for bottom 6/ 7 dmen.

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27 Mar 2017 18:23:58
i love how no one can talk about RNH without having karlsson in the trade, but then ft4a can then try to compare marner and Matthews trade value to RNH and Eberle lol rediculous. Mcdavid is the only player on the oilers to compare in value to Matthews. Not saying Matthews is worth mcdavid, but chirelli would give up anyone else on that roster for him in a heart beat.

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27 Mar 2017 20:03:40
Did you say RNH = Monahan and Johnny = Eberle? Lol.

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27 Mar 2017 20:06:49
No Charles I'm sorry your talent assessment is incorrect.

Dumba would NOT take Sekera's, Russell's, Nurse's or even Bennings position on the current Edmonton roster.
Dumba would be the #7 dman on the current Oilers roster maybe even #8 behind Gryba who is the same calibre and type of player at 1/ 4 the cost.

RNH has played all the games this year, and has done exactly what McLelland has told him to do, which is play against the other teams top lines and neutralize them and let McD's line score. His unselfish buy into the coaches sytem is a very important part of the improvement in the standings by the Oilers this year.
Your assessment is obviously nothing but speculation based on past season's injuries, and not knowing much about RNH's role as defined by the coach.
Because of this. Mooooo = Charles's opinion on RNH.

Dumba's game is similar but probably a slight step down from Darnell at 3x the salary. Gryba plays hard mins just like Dumba with the same results at a fraction of the cost. Sorry no way he's a #3 on the current roster. You must be thinking of the 3 years ago Oilers.

Unbiased Jim.
RNH and Karlson's names only comes up when some dummy posts the Ceci for RNH unicorn land home of the easter bunny and tooth fairy type trade.

Edmonton MIGHT give up RNH for a #1 / #2 Dman (not named Dion Phaneuf. ) Since Karlson's the only player on Ottawa that fits the bill of a #1 / 2. That's why the names get linked. Trust me I'm more tired of countering Karlson's name when #6/ 7 Dman Ceci's name is offerd up for top 6 forward RNH than you are of seeing Karlson's name associated with RNH.


And. point 2.
Totally missing the point here bud.
Point is not to compare teams top 6 forwards to each other. . It was Would you trade YOUR top 6 forwards for a Dman that won't make the starting lineup?
YES or NO?

PC wouldn't give up Draisetl for Matthews, and Talbot might be a lock as well. The other players on the roster. yes he'd probably trade for Matthews.

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27 Mar 2017 20:06:55
I'm sorry, but did you just say you did not compare RNH and Eberle to Toews and Kane. So these weren't your words above?

"What you're suggesting is along the same lines of:

Johnathan Toews for Roman Polak

Patrick Kane for Philip Larson"

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27 Mar 2017 20:46:57
Dumb would probabky be number three on the Oilers dude. Sekera isn't special, same with Nurse ( he can grow tho), same with Benning, and Gryba is trash.

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27 Mar 2017 21:07:22
I don't think Oilers would do either of those trades either… and not just because the expansion draft. Also Dumba wouldn't be an 8 D but he also wouldn't be 3.

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27 Mar 2017 22:06:02
Xcing
I didn't say that, but since you brought it up.

Yes RNH > Little J.

and
Monahan > Eberle


McRazzle
McRazzle is Mc-frazzled. lol

I can't explain it much clearer than this.

Kane and Toews = top 6 forwards on Chicago (no reference or comparison to any other player mentioned. )

Phillip Larson and Polak = bottom 6 D.
Would Chicago do this deal?

Same difference in Edm.
Eberle and RNH = top 6 forwards on the Oilers
Ceci and Dumba = Bottom 6 D

Does Edm do this deal?

I think the answer is no no no for each.


Ebs
My take on watching Dumba play is that he and Darnell Nurse are similar in style of play except Dumba has a better shot, Nurse skates a little better. Both are mean and tough to play against. Dumba has a little more experience, but Nurse costs less. I'd consider them pretty equal. Maybe a slight edge to Nurse for his reach adv.
Nurse is the #5 guy on the team right now.
Benning, Gryba and Dumba would be battling for the #6,7,8 spot.
Most likely puck mover Benning would get the nod over another tough defensive Dman.

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27 Mar 2017 23:24:04
Hurdemz

Seems you're just making assumptions based on a few years ago without watching an Oilers game this year or even taking the 20 seconds to look up a stat on the hundreds of websites dedicated to this year's NHL teams.

FYI.

Minny Defence NHL rank 7th 2.51 GAA
Edmonton Defence NHL rank 8th 2.53 GAA
Ottawa Defence NHL rank 10th 2.55 GAA


Another reason the Oilers have moved up in the standings.
Massively improved D in 2017 from the disaster over the past few years.

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27 Mar 2017 23:34:08
Lol since when is RNH > Gaudreau. I could name 30 gms that would disagree. It's like saying Kestler > Benn.

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28 Mar 2017 01:02:33
Last i checked ebs was down to 3rd and 4th line duties but things could have changed in the last few months.

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26 Mar 2017 07:17:14
EDM: Puljarvai
ARI: Strome

Edmonton can reunite Strome with McDavid and Arizona already has some Centre prospects so they could use Puljarvai more

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26 Mar 2017 20:27:40
No thanks bro.

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27 Mar 2017 14:06:35
Arizona has centres so they can lose Strome. But You think Edmonton can afford to lose wingers for centres? Is Strome better than mcdavid, draisatl or RNH? Not a chance. Makes no sense for Edmonton. Wait out puli.

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27 Mar 2017 16:26:35
Edmonton has too many Centers already.

Too soon to jettison Jesse.

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27 Mar 2017 19:44:53
Way too soon to look at trading the young Fin.

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26 Mar 2017 05:07:53
Edm: RNH, Ebs, 1st 2017, 1st 2018
Fla: Ekblad

Close? What would edmonton or Florida add to even out?

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26 Mar 2017 05:25:02
That's a whole a lot for ekblad, even though ekblad is a beast and great dman.
Probably Oilers need to send nurse in the deal.
Not sure if panthers make the deal. They do have a ton of forwards.

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26 Mar 2017 13:35:31
Doesn't really make sense for Florida because they aren't super strong on defense but are very solid down the middle.

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26 Mar 2017 20:29:36
Uh I'd like to say Florida actually has a pretty solid d core.
And no from both teams. Edmonton doesn't get any better tbh even tho Ekblad is amazing.

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27 Mar 2017 16:33:03
No chance from both sides .
1. Florida would be in big cap trouble taking on 12 mill.
2. There would have to be 2 Eckblad's coming over for that deal.
More realistic deal would be EITHER Eberle or RNH + 2017 1st
for one Eckblad. Maybe a minor D prospect like Simpson to
boot.
BOTH players AND 2 firsts. WAY WAY WAY too much of an
overpayment on Edmonton's behalf.

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28 Mar 2017 01:05:01
FT4A i'm pretty sure the value of ebs and rnh are way different. and the way edmonton is playing i don't think fla would want only 1 late first pick in a weak draft therefore i added the second 1st.

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26 Mar 2017 03:25:53
New Jersey: Kyle Palmieri
Ottawa: Ceci, 2017 2nd

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