17 Aug 2017 19:11:52
Detroit is in cap jail. Even after putting Franzen on LTIR, they still have under a mill with Athanasiou still to sign. Buffalo takes advantage and acquires speedy winger Nyquist and a overpaid Sheahan from Detroit. Nyquist immediately makes our top-6 stronger and allows Reinhart to fall into his natural position at center to create 3 strong scoring lines. Buffalo sends Detroit Girgensons whose a very solid two-way center but needs to find a way to start scoring again in a new system, a young offensive winger in Baptiste who should be in the NHL this year or next, and a offensive RHD with some upside in Nelson.
Detroit trades:
Nyquist, G
Sheahan, R

to Buffalo for:
Baptiste, N.
Nelson, C.
Girgensons, Z.

1.) 17 Aug 2017
17 Aug 2017 20:45:16
This is an interesting deal, I don't know much about Baptiste or Nelson to truly understand their values. Detroit's prospect needs is quality Centers or Defenseman because that's our biggest long-term weakness considering our depth of winger prospects.

Detroit has no need for Girgensons who is a 2-way Center who underproduced, Detroit has that already.

Now Nyquist has a NTC I believe, not sure he would waive for Buffalo while he is available for the right price as well.
Sheahan is available but since his value is low, may not love him yet.

Does Buffalo have any young current D-men or high quality D-prospects besides Nelson they may consider moving? Is Jake McCabe available? What's the ask for him?

2.) 17 Aug 2017
17 Aug 2017 20:48:10
Also would Buffalo be interested in Rochester, NY native Jimmy Howard to help with our cap problem.

I would take picks/ prospects in exchange. It gives Buffalo three goalies but they could move the underperforming one. Howard when healthy plays well and might be a good fit. Lehner has been shaky at times so having Howard might a good insurance.

3.) 17 Aug 2017
17 Aug 2017 22:57:49
Datsyuk, thank you for your comments. I actually saw this on a different fan forum and had the same impression as you, but the responses were overwhelming favorable so I wanted to test this trade here. I also thought of Howard, especially since Gionta is from Rochester. Baptiste appears to be ready to make the jump to the NHL, Nelson's top end IMO is bottom 6 D-man and Girgensons had one good 3/ 4 season and was voted to an all star game. So Detroit is getting cap relief and a top 6 prospect, a bottom six forward, and bottom pairing defense-man prospect.

4.) 18 Aug 2017
18 Aug 2017 17:49:18
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5.) 19 Aug 2017
18 Aug 2017 23:19:05
@sbr2017

Thank you for this post and coming up with some ideas here. I do see why this may be favourable on other sides. I think value wise we are somewhat close here.

However, is there any other available prospects you would be willing to move with similar values. Detroit needs a top 6 potential C because behind Larkin it's a little up for grabs or a Defense prospect that could reach top 4 or higher potential. Just need wise they would be better fits. Nelson seems to be kind of what we already have in Ouellet/ Sproul unless they can step up, so seemingly redundant for us. Similar to what I said about Girgensons as we already have guys like Helm/ Glenndenning or even Sheahan who underproduced but plays strong 2-way game.

I see a deal being possible here, just looking for more need focused players while Baptiste is useful, just not a position that needs to be filled since we have options.

Any suggestions? Also would be willing to take picks if you can't meet the needs.