16 Oct 2018 11:59:23
I have a questions to Leafs fans regarding William Nylander.If Toronto had drafted Sergachev instead of Mattews, Hanifin instead of Marner and Nylander was your best forward, first do u think he would of had 2 60+ point season before 22 and do u think Leafs would gladly give him 8 million a year? Just wondering

1.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 12:39:56
Well if he didn’t have 2 60 pt seasons than he wouldn’t be able to even try for the $8mill anyway.

But if we had a lot better Defense and lacked forwards, assuming he would have more leverage is prettt obvious.

But I don’t care what areas we are lacking, if he had shown less than he has now, he’s not getting $8 mill lol.

2.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 15:10:16
I think even with those stats and where he is now he shouldn't be making $8M. his com parables are all under $7M. Who would you prefer. Pasta or Nylander? I think that was his closest comparable from everything i have read - but they never mention that Nylander has the ability to play center.

3.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 15:58:48
@thunder, you’re right. I put him below pasta ($6.7) close to ehlers ($6 mill) . Those deals are a year or 2 old, so I could see him getting up to $6.75mill today. Monahan, Gaudreau, Schiefele, mackinnon etc all got between $6.3 and $6.8mill coming of their ELC. Those 3 of those guys are natural Centers, he hasn’t played much of it at all. He’s below all of them. Again, those are a year or 2 old and a cpl of them (scheifele and mackinnon) are way way under value now. But he’s in that $6.5 range for sure.

4.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 17:39:57
I agree Jim, Scheifele and MacKinnon are unreal deals too. I hope he comes to terms with that and signs at a good rate.

5.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 17:59:11
I really think this holdout had completely blown up in his face.

Kapanen is getting more comfortable by the game playing beside Matthews, and the Leafs don't look like they are missing Nylander's services at all. If anything, Nylander is putting himself in a worse negotiating position. He can stamp his feet all he wants -- at the end of the day Dubas owns him regardless and if he doesn't sign by December he misses out on the $6.5 mln (or whatever) the Leafs have offered him.

If I were Dubas I would continue to offer him something in the $6mln-$7mln range and not a penny more (actually I would probably offer him even less than before out of spite but that would probably have bad optics) and don't even consider trading him (unless somebody bowls you over with an offer you can't refuse) .

Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered.

6.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 19:25:18
Ya the team and Kapanen doing so well is not good at all for any possible leverage Nylander is holding onto. Lol.

7.) 16 Oct 2018
16 Oct 2018 21:56:54
Yeah, if I were dubas, I would send Louis Gross the same email every morning. “7x$6.5mill”. And after the last few games, seeing how kapanen has played and meshed with Matthews, I’d be tempted to start lowering that offer.

Ideally for me, wait it out till almost December deadline, as long as kapanen is still playing as well or close, try to trade trade Nylander for a guy like Colin miller, 26 year old 2way RHD with 4 years left at $4 mill and change. Or Josh Manson, 27 year old RHD with a $4.2 x 4 contract remaining and then try to extend Kapanen for 3 years @ $3 mill or so. End up with a big upgrade on D and a very capable winger in nylanders spot for less than his demand.