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23 Aug 2016 09:17:59
MTL: Alexei Emelin
EDM: Mark Fayne.
1.) 23 Aug 2016 18:08:56
That's stupid so let's trade away one of our RHD for another lefty. And one whose not even better, just hits harder. No from oilers.
2.) 23 Aug 2016 18:55:30
Now your just being biased.
3.) 23 Aug 2016 18:55:37
Good trade.
4.) 23 Aug 2016 21:40:16
Like it as a habs fan, but oilers would never do it.
5.) 23 Aug 2016 22:43:40
Fayne is younger, has a better contract, doesn't have a NTC and shoots right. Stop talking out your ass.
6.) 23 Aug 2016 21:40:16
Like it as a habs fan, but oilers would never do it.
7.) 23 Aug 2016 22:43:40
Fayne is younger, has a better contract, doesn't have a NTC and shoots right. Stop talking out your ass.
8.) 23 Aug 2016 21:40:16
Like it as a habs fan, but oilers would never do it.
9.) 23 Aug 2016 22:43:40
Fayne is younger, has a better contract, doesn't have a NTC and shoots right. Stop talking out your ass.
10.) 23 Aug 2016 21:40:16
Like it as a habs fan, but oilers would never do it.
11.) 23 Aug 2016 22:43:40
Fayne is younger, has a better contract, doesn't have a NTC and shoots right. Stop talking out your ass.
12.) 23 Aug 2016 21:40:16
Like it as a habs fan, but oilers would never do it.
13.) 23 Aug 2016 22:43:40
Fayne is younger, has a better contract, doesn't have a NTC and shoots right. Stop talking out your ass.
14.) 24 Aug 2016 04:46:04
No thanks .
15.) 24 Aug 2016 15:26:17
big NO from Habs, Emelin is one of the best open ice hitters and he's a World Cup talent
Fayne is a human pylon who belongs in the AHL.
22 Aug 2016 10:36:50
Oilers: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Darnell Nurse, 2nd, Griffin Reinhart
Yotes: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Ryan Murphy
Just for value wise
Gives zona a number 2 centre, and a high ceiling left dman and a prized prospect in Reinhart who has good potential to be a really good d. Zona gets a little stronger on d and centre and gives oilers a number 1 dman. Plus they are both good trading partners.
Oilers D
Ekman-Larsson - Larsson
Klefbom - Murphy
Sekera - Fayne
Zona D
Nurse - Stone
Goligoski - Michalek
Reinhart - Connauton
Domi - Nuge - Duclair.
1.) 22 Aug 2016 12:39:47
I would want draistl if I were Phx.
2.) 22 Aug 2016 13:12:01
I am NGL, Oilers do this 100% but that ain't the Oils lines, it would be: OEL-Larsson
Klefbom-Sekera
Davidson-Murphy
Fayne
Which is pretty deadly, fills some holes quite nicely but I doubt the yotes trade their best Defenseman, let alone their MVP for that and their 4th best young d-man for that, enough with the OEL trades, if ARI doesn't have a reason to trade him, why would they take it easy on a team value wise, right now he's easily a top 15 d-man in the league.
3.) 22 Aug 2016 13:52:20
Starts with Draisaitl and you add from their. OEL is a top defender.
4.) 22 Aug 2016 15:13:52
OEL wasn't even going to be traded for 1st overall pick this year so no way this happens.
5.) 22 Aug 2016 16:00:11
Not a chance that Arizona gives up a clear number one defender for a couple of guys who look to have a ceiling no higher than third pairing as well as a $6 million a year center who has one 20 goal season.
6.) 22 Aug 2016 16:48:20
Can't happen till Vegas draft is done or the Oilers lose a Dman for nothing.
Oilers do not have a 2nd so that would need to get deleted from the trade.
7.) 22 Aug 2016 17:38:16
First of all its Connor* Murphy and second Aruzona is not going to blow up all the work they' ve done on their rebuild for Nugent Hopkins
8.) 22 Aug 2016 18:18:46
That's Conner Murphy. Ryan is on Caroliba.
9.) 22 Aug 2016 18:56:30
This is not even remotely close tho in what Arizona would want. Even if you take out Murphy I still think they decline.
10.) 23 Aug 2016 17:08:05
Arizona came right out and said they really wanted to draft Matthews but OEL was never going to be included in an offer to Toronto. If he was too valuable to them to include in a trade for a potential franchise centre raised down the road, let's stop thinking a 2nd line centre and a cpl decent young D can get him.
22 Aug 2016 06:55:54
Ottawa Senators:
Bobby Ryan
2nd Round Pick
Edmonton Oilers:
Jordan Eberle
New Jersey Devils:
7th Round Pick
Edmonton Oilers:
Mark Fayne
3rd Round Pick
Calgary Flames:
Dennis Wideman (50% Retained)
Edmonton Oilers:
4th Round Pick
5th Round Pick
Washington Capitals:
Jakub Vrana
Edmonton Oilers:
Nail Yakupov
Vancouver Canucks:
Cole Cassels
Edmonton Oilers:
Brandon Davidson.
1.) 22 Aug 2016 07:55:54
I doubt Edmonton does the Eberle or Davidson deal. I can see Ryan's size being nice to have over Eberle though. Calgary offers to drive Wideman to Edmonton for that offer. Jersey probably doesn't want Fayne back and no way Yak gets Vrana.
2.) 22 Aug 2016 09:37:43
Oilers don't want Ryan's contract, way too much.
I'd rather keep Fayne than give away a 3rd round pick for a 7th, that's useless.
I doubt Oilers would take the Wideman deal, Calgary would for sure tho.
Caps say no.
0% we trade Davidson for Cassels.
3.) 22 Aug 2016 15:14:32
Much rather have vrana then yak.
4.) 22 Aug 2016 16:57:46
#1 No thank you, Edmonton wants to keep Eberle. Ryan has not lived up to any potential yet.
#2 If NJ wanted Fayne, he would have gone there WITH Taylor Hall. Agree keeping Fayne to block shots, or go spend his last few years in the AHL teaching is more valuable than a for nothing give away.
#3 Lamers are stuck with Wideman until the NHL heat is off of him for his brutal official attack. No one wants a player that'll draw officiating IRE. There is a possibility that this fiasco isn't over with and could end up being a Bertuzzi type outside of the NHL court battle that would be a distraction. Calgary can pick up 100% of the salary. Oilers still don't want/ need him.
#4 Jacob does not have the potential Yak has. Best to keep Yak and let his stock rise till a realistic trade can be made.
#5 1 of few Oilers Developmental gems and he's named in trade?
Don't see the trade value. Oh well Davidson's gone in the
Vegas draft anyways as he's the #4 Dman on the roster.
5.) 22 Aug 2016 19:01:47
Unless Davidson has another stellar year, I honestly doubt he gets picked up. It's either going to be Reinhart it Pouliot. Not a lot of people in the league probably know about Davidson, so Reinhart would be the more obvious pick up by his draft selection, and Pouliot will be the best forward that will be available. But tough to tell.
6.) 22 Aug 2016 23:46:46
How did davidson have a stellar year, it may have surprised you but it wasn't stellar.
Besides he probably won't repeat it you know rookie luck.
7.) 23 Aug 2016 01:06:42
I'm sure Vegas management will watch one Oil game and know Davidson is better than Reinhart.
8.) 23 Aug 2016 08:41:15
I mean from not suppose to make the roster, then being their best defenseman for half a year basically. How isn't that stellar lol. When he was penciled in to be in the AHL.
I meant personally he had a stellar year. And I guarentee you he gets better and improves.
9.) 23 Aug 2016 19:31:20
Your best wouldn't crack the top 4 or maybe 6 on any playoff team.
Ghost and parayko had stellar years and will improve. But you think they have hit thier ceilings and there is no way they can repeat or improve so what makes davidson different from your outlook . because he is your player and your biased or because you just know lol you sir are a hippacrit. Lol.
10.) 23 Aug 2016 20:23:39
Colt55
Davidson had a great year but yet again you had to mention Parayko. Give it a break. I'm not even an Oiler fan and know Davidson had a great year and is showing potential to be a top 4, so I don't think he's being biased at all.
11.) 23 Aug 2016 20:26:08
And Colt he mentioned nothing about Ghost or Parayko . So you're literally trying to make a point with irrelevant information when you're comparing him to defenders that could have won the Calder trophy.
12.) 25 Aug 2016 22:54:18
jf12,
4 goals 7 assist playing third pairing on the worst defense in hockey. Come on. Yes he had a good year but my point is your measuring this player by low standards. You have set the bar so freaking low how can you not have a good year. Davidson may be the best player on the oilers defense. which he is not. But he couldn't crack any of the playoffs teams defense and that sir i'd the honest truth.
I brought up ghost as well they are also rookies but one single handidly pushed him team to the playoffs with a phenomenal year and the other made training camp on one of the best defenses in the central and dominated ply through the season and playoffs. Was blues second best dman behind elit petro. So yes they had great seasons davidson 11 points from third line on worst defense in league ok your right he is awesome lol.
22 Aug 2016 03:06:00
Hawks: Marian Hossa
Rangers: Rick Nash
Sens: Bobby Ryan
Hawks get Ryan
NYR get Hossa
Sens get Nash
(All have similar salary)
Hossa still goes to a cup contender, Nash goes closer to home, Ryan goes to a cup contender.
1.) 22 Aug 2016 05:10:12
You really think the Rangers are Cup contenders?
2.) 22 Aug 2016 05:27:26
That makes the Rangers slower.
3.) 22 Aug 2016 06:42:01
Absolutely horrible for OTT.
Ryan is far from the player they thought they were getting, but he's still younger and much more effective than Nash.
4.) 22 Aug 2016 10:37:34
You guys are biased
5.) 22 Aug 2016 14:37:53
I don't think you have to be biased to a team to feel that the youngest player of three guys who have been declining on similar contracts has the best chance of bouncing back. It's kind of common sense that, barring a big injury, a 29 year old can have more productive years left than a 32 and 37 year old.
6.) 22 Aug 2016 19:19:53
Ottawa gets screwed just due to the massive age difference between the 3. Hossa is 38, Nash 31/ 32, Ryan is 28 I think.
20 Aug 2016 09:02:31
Winnipeg trades
- Jacob Trouba
- Nic Ehlers
- 1st Round Pick
- 2nd Round Pick
Ottawa trades
- Erik Karlsson
Just wanna see karlsson's value.
1.) 20 Aug 2016 11:04:38
Not how peg operates so neither team make this trade in my opinion.
2.) 20 Aug 2016 13:14:57
Karlsson / Buff would be an unreal top pair.
3.) 20 Aug 2016 13:22:45
I'd rather keep the package. We have buff for a defensive liability already.
And on the value nobody knows. Those types of players don't get traded unless it's for a comparable.
Subban and weber is an example.
4.) 20 Aug 2016 14:19:16
At lat this trade is original. No chance Wpg would ever do this trade.
5.) 20 Aug 2016 16:16:43
Tbh I actually think the values semi-decent. Really though, neither team would make the trade, Ottawa because he is a cornerstone stud #1 dman, and Winnipeg because that is a lot of assets and winnipeg usually doesn't go out and trade for some big name - they build from inside.
Valuewise,
Ehlers is definetly top line material so he is the big piece here, and Trouba will be a good (never as good as Karlsson though) blueliner. That 1st I definetly say will be a mid round 1st, so really I don't think value is VERY bad; just know for a fact that neither team would do it due to the way they work.
6.) 20 Aug 2016 19:05:06
Easily the most interesting post I've seen on here. Probably the fairest too. Yet at the same time, the least likely by far. Great post buddy, actually going to show this to some folks cause it's an awesome "conversation piece"
7.) 20 Aug 2016 20:21:45
Honestly if I were Winnepeg I'd do that trade in a heart beat Karrlson would make them a cup contender. Ehlers and Trouba are good but there not on the same level as Karrlson maybe from Ottawa it would help for a retool but I'd ask for a small add atleast.
8.) 21 Aug 2016 01:09:42
We undestand that neither team does this and blah blah blah.
He literally said ''just wanna see karlsson's value''.
9.) 21 Aug 2016 01:30:36
Any trade for Karlsson starts with Laine.
10.) 21 Aug 2016 05:17:30
Laine hasn't played a single game yet?
11.) 22 Aug 2016 02:18:04
Laine has such amazing potential, that by virtue of not playing in the NHL yet he becomes virtually untouchable. You have to see what you have first. Although, if it was going to happen, it would be to get someone like Karlsson with MVP calibre talent. I don't mean that to read one-for-one of course. Karlsson's value is almost beyond trade I think. The more I look at I think Jets would def have to add quite a bit to the initial proposal to have it happen but that IS probably good as his true value in building a team.
12.) 22 Aug 2016 03:52:59
My mistake. For some reason I thought it said two first rounders. That would be fair not first and second.
13.) 22 Aug 2016 12:45:16
I love how people assume that Karlsson is a liability defensively. Look at the underlying numbers, he's proven to be a better than average defenseman on the defensive side as well.
14.) 22 Aug 2016 19:42:53
Rederov - not one single person on this thread said he was a def liability. Nobody even hinted at it.
15.) 22 Aug 2016 19:55:21
Oops sorry ONE guy hinted at it out of 12 posts.
24 Aug 2016 01:44:05
U make us look bad
23 Aug 2016 08:50:25
How about trying to pry mcdavid from Edmonton now? Ahaha jk what about Wideman (25% Retained) for a 4th ?
22 Aug 2016 10:37:34
You guys are biased
21 Aug 2016 05:17:30
Laine hasn't played a single game yet?
21 Aug 2016 05:16:38
Wideman for Fayne? Straight up cause Fayne is less cap but I'm sure Calgary keeps Wideman for one more year instead of taking on Fayne for 2. Wideman is better but Fayne has been working his a** off
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