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14 Jul 2022 01:59:57
If Patrick Kane would wave:
To EDM-Patrick Kane(50% retained)
To CHI-Xaivier Borgult, Philip Broberg, 2023 1st round pick, 2024 1st round pick.
EDM lines
E.Kane-McDavid-P.Kane
Hyman-draisaitl-Yamamoto
Holloway-RNH-Pullijarvi
Foegle-Ryan-shore.
1.) 14 Jul 2022 03:16:30
Seems like a huge overpay in my opinion. I think his price is a 1st round pick, player (for salary) and a few prospect Chicago likes.
2.) 14 Jul 2022 03:55:31
Way too much IMO. Kane has 1 season left on his contract = Rental. Should only cost a 1st + 2nd + 3rd (+ maybe another late Pick or Prospect) for Kane with 50% retained. Bigger issue is EDM doesn’t have the Cap Space.
So maybe Yamamoto + Puljujarvi + Samorukov for P. Kane 50% retained and try to include Tyson Barrie for Connor Murphy in the deal as well.
3.) 14 Jul 2022 05:02:23
Crazy to think Chicago paid a very similar price for Jones. But heck no from Edmonton. Would be similar to what Florida just did and set the organization back years. Broberg is hopefully going to be a big part of the future core.
4.) 14 Jul 2022 13:18:53
Pulijujarvi, Barrie ( cap dump ), Broberg and 2nd 2023.
5.) 14 Jul 2022 15:48:30
I know your trading for a point per game + player, that’s maybe the best ever American born but I’d hate to see Broberg be in a trade for a rental. Doesn’t make sense IMO. Oil are pretty deep on the wings.
6.) 14 Jul 2022 17:27:37
Tyson Barrie is NOT a Cap Dump, he's poor Defensively at Even Strength, especially on a Defensively Weak Team, but he's the Top Scoring Defensemen with less than 19MINS/ GP. He's comparable to John Klingberg who has struggled Defensively the past few seasons as well, but will likely get a $6-7mil/ yr contract here soon.
If Barrie was getting 1st Line Minutes with a Good Defensive Partner, he'd be putting up 50-70PTS/ 82GP. His Career Average is 0.64PPG for heavens sake and he comes on a Very Team Friendly Contract of only $4.5mil/ yr
Barrie Partnered with Hanifin would be interesting, although Michael Stone or PK Subban would be much cheaper options and Klingberg could be signed with no Acquisition Cost, not that the cost to acquire Barrie would be much, but I doubt Sutter wants him on his Team lol.
7.) 14 Jul 2022 20:54:05
Barrie with kulak was actually pretty good. Less offense but a pretty sound defensive pairing. Definitely worth his 4.5M to someone.
02 Nov 2019 22:37:38
To stl- Adam Larson, Ryan McLeod, Jesse puliarvii, 2020 2nd
To edm- Alex pieteranglo, Klim kostin.
1.) 03 Nov 2019 00:01:56
Why, awefu l trade for blues. Pool part is a chump, Larson is a worse version of parayko McLeod is nothing special. solid no.
2.) 03 Nov 2019 07:04:08
If you want Pietrangelo its Pietrangelo for Draisaitl straight across or Nugent-Hopkins, Puljujarvi +
3.) 03 Nov 2019 08:15:47
I agree is not enough for petro, but the blues don't really lose assets for nothing. They won't get a draisatl in return, but if thru don't believe there's favorable talks by deadline they might take a package.
Probably not that package though, they do want to repeat.
4.) 03 Nov 2019 13:51:41
Draisaitl for Pietrangelo. Wow. Just wow. Is that a troll post or do you actually believe that would ever happen?
5.) 03 Nov 2019 15:20:19
Petro doesn’t get Draisaitl.
6.) 03 Nov 2019 15:53:48
11 goals in 17 games in Finnish elite league sure screams chump. Oilers should spend money on a scoring winger (ex:Hall) not Petro. The likes of Nurse-Bear, Klefbom-Bouchard, Broberg-Larson is looking real nice.
And How’s Thomas development to #1C going Colt? Tarasenko goes down and you’d think super Thomas would get that opportunity hey? Sammy Blais gets it. #1 Thomas has been getting some fourth line time this year too. Why did they go sign Schenn for so long when they have ORielly and Thomas? When’s he going to get his #1C spot? I’m kinda curious now. Classic development to #1C I guess. And lmao @ Drai = Petro. Too funny.
Again, I really like Petro and the STL would probably say no, but the Oilers next move would then be to trade a D prospect for a winger then? That could be a plan if this went down. But I don’t see the need. Stay the course with the D coming up and go after a scoring winger, not Petro.
7.) 03 Nov 2019 17:07:24
So as a fan base knowing there is a chance pietrangelo won't resign this summer if this offer was offered by edmonton as fans youd still want a maybe pietrangelo for this return? Ok...thats fine
FYI..mcleod last year shut morgan frost down in semi finals of ohl final..you all love orielly so much well guess what mcleod is much how he is..a shut down center..
if pietrangelo wasnt an upcoming UFA than yeah this is an iffy deal. However, he is an upcoming so a return like this is probably the best return ever in the history of returns for an upcoming ufa D..but again that's fine
As far as draisaitl for pietrangelo..not only is draisaitl signed long term at a good deal he is also 5 years younger and is top 5 player for his position in the league. can't write the same for pietrangelo..but again if you think they have same value that's fine..
8.) 03 Nov 2019 17:41:39
Who cares what a guy does in the Finnish league if they can’t carry it over to the nhl.
9.) 03 Nov 2019 18:24:14
Ah yes, anyone not in the NHL is a chump. Got ya. 🙄
Great addition to the conversation.
10.) 03 Nov 2019 18:53:44
Yup I see you took a jab at me well let's do this. Thomas looks amazing and is developing well. He plays on the third line and is the driving force behind it. He splits center duty with bozak.
No petro would get drais.
11.) 02 Nov 2019 23:35:17
Would depend what Petro wants for an extension, but I still don’t see the need with what’s coming in for D soon with how Nurse, Klefbom and Bear are playing right now.
Oilers could be looking real nice on D with the likes of Nurse-Bear, Klefbom-Bouchard, Broberg-Larson. No huge need for Petro, I’d way rather spend that money on Hall or a scoring winger like him, way more need for that.
12.) 03 Nov 2019 19:28:00
No Jab just truth, you overvalue your guys here. Petro does not get Drai. Lmao. Thomas is a good third line player. Not a #1C.
13.) 03 Nov 2019 19:35:18
Too much by Edmonton to give for a RENTAL because that's all he is with a contract expiring at the end of this year A RENTAL.
Player rental rates have traditionally been a 2nd round pick. He might net a 1st deferred if there's a lotto win.
I don't see St Louis the defending champs trading him to get something out of him, but go all in this year to repeat and worry about this key UFA after the cup run to see if they can repeat.
14.) 03 Nov 2019 20:33:21
I never said he did yupp and name one person who doesn't over value their players.
15.) 03 Nov 2019 20:34:34
This package sucks for a signed petro and an almost ready klim. By the way it was rumoured that army turned down Jesse p for klim straight up. Food for thought.
16.) 03 Nov 2019 23:07:30
Most rentals of his caliber get a 1st good prospect +
Shattenkirk got a 1st Sandford + petro is two tiers above him in value.
17.) 04 Nov 2019 02:12:52
Lol. And how much worse a deal was that for Shatty than you were crying he would get. Shortly after the Shatty deal you left, then Came back under a different name (Rewing) many months later. pretty sad man. You’ve been proven a homer many times.
18.) 04 Nov 2019 15:41:33
I meant no petro does not get drais.
19.) 05 Nov 2019 09:14:40
Always with the shatty lol. We got a 1st a solid prospect + was it less than I wanted of course. It didn't help that shatty refused to sign also. That shatty trade let to getting schenn perfectly fine with me brah.
07 Oct 2019 20:48:46
TO L.A-Laine
TO WPG-Doughty
Jets get a top pair defenceman to replace buff(if he retires) and doughty gets a chance to win a cup
LA gets a young sniper and Laine gets a chance to play top line minutes.
1.) 07 Oct 2019 21:39:14
Lol. Not even in a Kings fan's wildest dreams. Doughty is great and all, but he's 29 and is being paid $11 million/ season until he is 36. Plus the Jets just extended Laine, they won't trade him in a knee jerk, panic trade as you are proposing.
2.) 07 Oct 2019 21:49:16
Doughty say no.
3.) 07 Oct 2019 22:50:16
As much as I like Doughty, he will be long retired, over the hill, while Laine will be scoring 50, flirting with 60 for years to come.
Laine had a rough 2nd half last year, so many are questioning him.
I will guarantee he will score the most Goals of anyone on his draft class. I'm not saying points, or that he will be the best player, but as a goal scorer, he will be # 1.
4.) 08 Oct 2019 01:57:45
Pulock is not far from Laine for worth.
5.) 08 Oct 2019 02:56:00
Sosa he could but I wouldn’t be willing to guarantee it with him currently being 2nd to Matthews. Definitely could but He’s not blowing Matthews outta the water.
6.) 08 Oct 2019 14:52:40
Laine is 22 and Doughty is like 35 that’s a huge no from Winnipeg.
7.) 08 Oct 2019 17:36:51
Doughty is like same age as pietrangelo and stamkos.08 draft
older but not old.
8.) 09 Oct 2019 22:23:13
Agree with jbs, sosa. In most draft classes laine could run away with it, but him and matthews will probably always be close.
14 Aug 2019 02:24:31
To EDM- Frolik
To CAL- russel, 2020 3rd
Both on expiring contracts, helps Calgary now that valamaki is out and gives the oilers another winger that can score
1.) 14 Aug 2019 04:16:44
Flames need Frolik way more than russell and why would they trade for a 6 dman at a 4mil cap hit next season. Flames are fine, they have Kylington or Valiev who can take up that spot
2.) 14 Aug 2019 06:28:03
Yeah, Flames got the depth to fill up that whole.
No need to trade anybody. and there are fine replacements in free agency if they decide they need one.
3.) 14 Aug 2019 13:54:10
hole*** :3.
4.) 14 Aug 2019 15:46:05
I’m pretty sure I read a quote from there GM that there looking externally for a replacement. Frolik is no steal of a contract either at 4.3M. Russell is probably a 5/ 6 D and Frolik is a 3rd line winger. Oil might have to add a tiny bit on this IMO.
5.) 14 Aug 2019 19:47:06
But froliks a ufa next season russell aint
6.) 14 Aug 2019 20:17:19
Also, don't see Oilers trading defencemen right now. They need all the experience they can get. and although Russell gets hated on, Edmonton doesn't have anybody in the lineup that can block shots like him.
I think Oilers are done with trades unless it's Puljujarvi.
If they need a forward, they'll sign one in free agency.
7.) 15 Aug 2019 17:52:15
Losing Russells cap alone would be enough benefit for the Oilers IMO. Jones, Benning and Persson can potentially take up the bottom half of the D core. I think a trade that upgrades the RD is what the Oil should be looking at.
8.) 16 Aug 2019 04:14:32
@ebs I agree. Risto would be a good fit for the oilers imo.
9.) 18 Aug 2019 02:23:34
Lol buddy edmonton traded their 2020 third, conditionally, to calgary in the lucic deal. How would it work to trade it to them again?
No deal both sides.
05 May 2019 20:55:21
Let the holland era begin
To van: Milan lucic(33% retained)
To EDM: Brandon sutter
To wpg RNH, Jesse p, 2019 1st
To EDM Jacob trouba (agreement to sign), Kyle Conor
To tor Adam Larson, kharia
To EDM kasperi kappanen
To NYR Matt Benning, 2020 2nd
To EDM namestinkov
1.) 05 May 2019 22:36:42
There is no reason for Winnipeg to do this lopsided trade.
2.) 05 May 2019 22:49:17
No thanks from Winnipeg.
3.) 05 May 2019 23:18:08
Sorry got Conor and Ehlers mixed up. Swap the two.
4.) 05 May 2019 23:41:29
Very good. I love these trades. â¤ï¸ Who could not, yes? We must make every one of these trades. And then Edmonton will win the cup, yes. I am sure of it. The other teams must understand. They suck compared to the great Edmonton Oilers. For we are the best. Yes. It is so very true. Mr. Weasel understands very good, yes. I like this trade very much. It is very good trade. Very good.
5.) 05 May 2019 23:50:52
Wtf are you on? Namestnikov gets more, Trouba & Connor get more. For the other idk
6.) 06 May 2019 02:24:31
Yeah that’s a fat no from Van. You want us to take a Lucic? You retain half his salary and you take Eriksson. Lucic is so far in the negative value that it’s not funny.
7.) 06 May 2019 04:32:35
Lol because Eriksson is so much better.
8.) 06 May 2019 08:11:49
I would rather keep lucic than have Eriksson.
Both players are 4th line players and atleast lucic donat play like a girl
Why would oilers retain cap? Lucic is younger and can bounce back in another team? Eriksson is worse.
9.) 06 May 2019 08:18:15
Is everyone high? RnH and trouba = same value and ehlers won't get you both jesse and 1st round pick (krebs/ dach)
10.) 07 May 2019 07:02:15
Lucid has a NVM, so Canucks couldn't send him to minors, plus he has to be protected in the expansion draft, good luck moving that guy.
11.) 07 May 2019 16:21:21
lucic will easily waive his nmc he is obviously not going to be picked up by seattle give me a break lol.
12.) 07 May 2019 21:13:01
is trouba that big of an upgrade to get rid of larsson after?
13.) 08 May 2019 13:17:01
big no not fair enough trade.
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12 Feb 2019 11:35:24
Not a rumour just wondering if anybody thinks that it is a good trade and makes sense for both teams. Forget the cap as well...
To EDM- Jonathan huberdeau, Aaron Ekblad
To FLA- Oscar Klefbom, Cam Talbot, Kyler Yamamoto, Evan Bouchard, 2019 2nd round pick
Who adds and how much. Don't just say "it will Never happen"
1.) 12 Feb 2019 15:25:41
Oilers add a lot. Talbot is barely a starter by the looks of it. Moto is a good prospect, bouchard is not much and Klefblom is your big piece in all of this. I don't think this is really a starting point for a trade - maybe Drais gets a convo going.
2.) 12 Feb 2019 17:57:34
Bouchard, our best prospect and former 10th overall pick is “not much� Also Draisaitl is doing better than Ekblad, how does that work when you say it just keeps the convo going? 🤔.
3.) 12 Feb 2019 19:14:42
Ya Bouchard is a top prospect, Moto is a decent prospect. I still think EDM would have to add, but I don’t know how much.
4.) 12 Feb 2019 20:13:47
How is Bouchard not a top prospect? Turkey, I think this may be only time I have ever disagreed with ya lol. I'm not a huge fan of Yamamoto. I jus don't see it. him being a consistent NHLer. he's someone Oil should move.
I'd hate to see Drais leave Oil, as he is a Star player and I like his overall game. however, he is going to have to be the peice Oilers move to improve this team. Its unfortunate, but in order to fix the mess of Chiarelli, Drais will have to be sacrificed.
Talbot doesn't hold any value. Klefbom is ok, however, I am always left feeling he can/ should do more? .
5.) 12 Feb 2019 21:16:25
Edmonton adds and they can't afford those two contracts anyway. So it will never happen lol.
06 Jul 2017 12:07:52
Just thinking out loud here
The Conor McDavid contract is worth every penny and he even took a bit of a discount, but it is a massive cap hit. If the draisitl contract requests are correct and he wants 8-9 might it be worth exploring a trade...
To EDM- Mackinon
To COL- Draisitil
Draisitl is the better all around player imo and is younger, him and landeskog would be a force on the top line. Mackinon is a better center, and adds dynamic speed at a possible cheaper price.
1.) 06 Jul 2017 14:00:38
Nope. Crosby/ Malkin works (clearly), McD/ Drai can work too.
2.) 06 Jul 2017 14:53:04
Crosby/ Malkin. Signed while the cap was rising. I think the cap hits are 8.7/ 9.5 so that's 18.2.
Mcdavid/ draisatl
Cap looks flat 12.5/ 7-9
So 19.5-21.5 maybe a bit more. That's 3.3-5.3 more. That's a good player tied up right there.
3.) 06 Jul 2017 17:11:56
Wow my math was really bad there 1.3-3.3. So not as good a player.
19 Mar 2016 13:00:19
IMO Taylor hall is the most likely to get traded, he hasn't played that well with mcdavid (small sample size) he's been there the longest and never took control of the team and with all the centres the oilers have they actually become pretty weak up the middle of they trade RNH. So
To San Jose-Taylor hall, yak, 2017 2nd
To EDM- Brent Burns 2016 1st.
1.) 19 Mar 2016 13:26:00
Sharks don't have a first this year. And Edmonton would probably consider this only if Burns was signed to an extension. He probably will over the summer, and this could be an offseason move if the Sharks wanted to get younger (again) .
San Jose has to resign Thornton, Marleau and Burns next year. Obviously Marleau would be the first to go, but you also can think about how Burns' value will never be higher.
2.) 19 Mar 2016 14:56:49
Why does he have to play well with McDavid? He's been doing just fine with Draisaitl. Weak up the middle? They could use a 3rd line center and then they have pretty solid center depth. Also Hall > Burns.
3.) 19 Mar 2016 17:14:25
Hall is most likely to be traded? Are you ok in the head?
Check again.
4.) 19 Mar 2016 20:50:26
I can't see the Oilers trading Hall. and why does he have to play with McDavid.? . Having to send guys on different lines is going to be a nightmare for opposing teams for years to come . in my opinion, RNH and Yakupov are the assets the Oilers should move 2 get a more balanced team. if. Yakupov is still considered an asset? He's still young enough to turn it around imo.
5.) 19 Mar 2016 23:12:45
Yeah RNH and Yak need to get moved. Not Hall.
RNH could land a top 4 RHD that the Oilers desperately need.
While Yak could land them a great 3rd line centre which is something the Oilers need instead of damn Anton Lander.
6.) 19 Mar 2016 23:12:45
Yeah RNH and Yak need to get moved. Not Hall.
RNH could land a top 4 RHD that the Oilers desperately need.
While Yak could land them a great 3rd line centre which is something the Oilers need instead of damn Anton Lander.
7.) 20 Mar 2016 03:00:55
Burns>Hall.
8.) 20 Mar 2016 09:41:24
@kingslover
Oilers need a top-2 dman to join Klefbom (currently injured), though Sekera has been very good recently. But that's cloud talk, they still need a top-2. They have a plethora of bottom-4.
Also, Lander isn't #3C. Letestu is, and has been great. #4C is a rotating door and sometimes includes Lander. He's got his merits but hasn't translated his excellence in the AHL to the NHL, unfortunately. But they may not need a new one in trade anyway now that Yakimov has returned to North America. He'll get a good long look in the off-season.
9.) 20 Mar 2016 21:10:25
I personally think the Hendricks- Letestu duo should stay together on the 4th line. I think Letestu and Sekera are equally mediocre in there respected positions. Upgrade on the 3rd line center and I like Pak he should stick on the 3rd next season.
10.) 20 Mar 2016 23:25:33
@Chirp are there any top 2 defensemen available? Nope. They've got to get the best d-men on the trading block available. This is one of the reasons why the Oilers franchise has gone NOWHERE in the last decade. Because they keep trying to obtain unrealistic wants that definitely are not out there. They keep putting off getting players that can help because they wait for this magical top pairing d-man to be available. Maybe if they got an actual top 4 d-man to come in and play with Klefbom/ Nurse then maybe they could help solidify a soid top 4 along with Sekera. Then u got guys like Davidson, Gryba, etc playing solidly on the bottom pairings.
11.) 21 Mar 2016 02:42:28
How about Reinhart? I don't think they've been waiting for the perfect guy. They've had garbage goaltending for the longest time. There D is finally starting to get good again IMO.
05 May 2019 23:18:08
Sorry got Conor and Ehlers mixed up. Swap the two.
28 Jun 2017 19:30:11
Good input cheers.
30 Dec 2016 22:43:29
The trade makes more sense as the oilers would be giving away a bad contract.
16 Jul 2016 08:45:22
Right my bad.
09 Apr 2016 14:35:19
Should have said
From EDM
From MTL
See got it wrong already.
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