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09 May 2016 13:08:15
In my opinion and the opinion of all Leaf scouts Laine has passed Matthews i think everyone in the NHL has realized this fact but Laine is not what TML needs-another winger they need a big centre like Matthews so try to play mind trick games with the Jets or anyone else who will listen great benefit can come
TML - 1st 2016
WIN - 1st 2016, Trouba.

1.) 09 May 2016 13:36:19
The difference between the first and second is not trouba.

2.) 09 May 2016 17:02:16
Matthews is better and I don't thiink anyone is actually thinking about trading the pick. And, as previously stated the difference between Laine and Matthews is not Trouba.

3.) 09 May 2016 17:24:56
At this point the difference between 1st and 2nd is nothing. Both players taken at those spots are going to be impact players for the teams that pick them.

4.) 09 May 2016 17:56:07
Jets want laine he's perfect fit for em, if TO wants em pic him first jets aren't given up trouba, or even interested in moveing up.

5.) 09 May 2016 21:42:27
^ If Laine was a centre I would probably agree with the above comments, but you don't build a team up the wing. He may be more offensively talented ATM, but Matthews is a more well rounded player (from the small snippets I've seen) .

As for the trade, in a vacuum the difference between 1 and 2 is not Trouba. Also, if Laine is the clear cut #1, then why would they trade up? Matthews would just fall to them. With that said, if WIN really wanted/ needed a franchise C, then maybe they would be willing to move Trouba to make that happen.

6.) 09 May 2016 23:01:22
After watching USA vs Finland today am I crazy to think that Laine could turn out to be a one trick pony, ie. great on the power play but just average 5 on 5? You only get so many PP's in a game.
The Leafs need a true 1st line centre and if you look at the last few Cup champs they had an elite centre. Mathews will be just that.

07 Apr 2016 02:23:45
What is the number one priority for the Leafs going into next year? Defence
This year's draft class is forward heavy so if the Leafs won the lottery would you consider?
TML - 1st 2016
LA - Doughty

TML - 1st 2016
STL - Pieterangelo, 1st 2016 (20-25)
5on't get me wrong it would be nice to have Mathews as our 1st Line centre but don't we need a stud dman more?

1.) 07 Apr 2016 05:18:46
Wow I sure hope you are joking, worst trades ever suggested ever, in world history not just this site.

2.) 07 Apr 2016 05:27:12
Doughty is top 5 d-man in league it would cost you 1st ++++. I would consider trying g to trade down and grab a defenseman, but really why? Toronto is a long ways from being a contender take Matthews and build on with the other prospects, see what you need in 3-4 years when you are closer to contending.

3.) 07 Apr 2016 07:01:28
Age wise Mathews fits Leaf rebuild a lot better than those two D. Mathews will be an absolute stud as well, next year he will come in and make an impact. He was just 2 days away from being in last years draft due to age and lots, I think most people wold say he would have been drafted before Eichel. If i'm Toronto i pick Mathews %110 if they get 1st overall. Try and trade one of your other top prospects for some D.

4.) 07 Apr 2016 07:33:17
To be honest Reilly + Toronto 1st would have to be the price. LA still probably says no as Doughty is a top 5 Dman and in his prime. Kings would probably hang up as soon as his name is mentioned.

5.) 07 Apr 2016 07:54:40
Dkmmmmm 😂😂😂😂 thank u i needed a good laugh.

6.) 07 Apr 2016 15:04:20
horrible for every team involved, good job.

7.) 07 Apr 2016 15:42:21
Wouldn't get Doughty but Matthews and Rielly for him? You got to be nuts.

8.) 07 Apr 2016 17:21:49
Doughty is pretty much LA's untouchable. He is just as rare as Connor.

Petro who is a teir (very close though) below doughty would cost the first overall + a large add maybee a few adds. Def not Petro plus 1st 2016 for torontos first

I think for once everyone agrees.

9.) 07 Apr 2016 20:10:32
Pietrangelo is not even close to the defenseman Doughty is, tank. Are you serious? Stop letting your little sister beat you over the head with the frying pans.

Also, If I'm Toronto there's no way I trade Auston Matthews for a 26 year old defenseman who is looking worse every year he plays. Not even the 25-29 pick would even that out, you're looking at another top 9 NHL player with that pick. Definitely not worth a franchise #1 centreman.

10.) 07 Apr 2016 20:20:31
I said petro is a tier below. I don't care what you think petro is a top 10 # 1 in the league worse and worse every year seriuosly. Apparently you live in a world were facts and reality are not the same thing. You are not getting petro for mathews alone so gfys. keep your pick. I'm good over here.

11.) 08 Apr 2016 01:42:44
Mathews>>Pietrangelo If Toronto called up STL and said, hey, we will trade you 1st overall for Pietrengelo straight up, you would say no? that's it! The absolutely dumbest thing i've ever read on here. Top 3 easily.

12.) 08 Apr 2016 15:29:18
your crazy Austin Mathews is not Worth Petro. Not by a longshot yep. For you to suggest it means you have gone full retard. Mathews is a step down from eichel by most analyst best this year but not as good as eichel. Petro with his skill play offensive upside skating ability and great contract for next 5-6 years is more valuable than a player with the potential to be a #1 ONE center in the future. Blues are in it to win it now.

13.) 08 Apr 2016 15:31:59
On another note. Petro is our top 10 #1 dman on our team he is untouchable. Will not be traded.

09 Feb 2016 16:13:06
Both goalies need a change real bad so
Det - Howard (3y x 6m)
Tor - Bernier (1y x 4m)
Babcock has a history with Howard he would love to have him back and Detroit saves 2 years 16 million
Also do not sign Reimer yes he is having a great year he has not proved anything! He is injury prone and has not played a full season!

1.) 09 Feb 2016 16:46:29
Reimer >>> Howard. What has Howard proven? That he can get a team to the playoffs and lose his job to a rookie. Both Goalies are back ups and Howard has more term and money. " Babcock would love Howard back" then why'd he start Mraznek over Howard in the playoffs? Clearly he lost confidence in him. Just stupid all around.

2.) 09 Feb 2016 17:26:20
Detroit adds, why would the leafs take on that contract and help detroit. Yes bernier has a bad contract too but its only for a year not 3.

3.) 09 Feb 2016 17:36:28
What has reimer proven? Reimer is pure garbage, leaf will nerver win with reimer nor bernier nor howard.

4.) 09 Feb 2016 18:16:20
I don't think Reimer gets enough respect. I don't say he's a top 5 goalie.. but he's better than some teams starters.... Bet he'd look good with the Flames?

5.) 09 Feb 2016 18:45:47
Reimer is staying in Toronto they'd be stupid to trade him when there's no goalie market and he's playing like an Elite goalie. Reimer wants to stay and Babs likes him a lot. Maybe Bernier in a Flames Jersey.

6.) 09 Feb 2016 19:50:00
Reimer gets no credit. He has proven a lot. Brought the Leafs to game 7 overtime against the Bruins (the closest any team came to eliminating the Cup champs) overcame adversity with repeated injuries and the Bernier trade then WINS BACK THE STARTING JOB. Reimer is not garbage, he's underrated and it's only because he is in Toronto. People don't talk about positives, only talks about the player he isn't.

7.) 09 Feb 2016 20:40:49
Bud.. and JF12 . I totally agree with ya.. so ya.. sure.. Bernie in a Flames jersey. I jus said Reimer cause ..I figured he was more valuable to the Flames.. I also believe the Leafs should keep Reimer.

8.) 09 Feb 2016 21:44:06
love it from a Detroit side, Howard needs a change of scenery. And Bernier is in the same boat, who knows the change could do both good. Guess the big question is do you believe in Reimer enough to sign him long term for 4.5-5-5 mill or move on?

9.) 09 Feb 2016 22:58:32
Det Howard and mantha

Tor Reimer and leivo and Ott
2nd

Det get cap space and leivo is a good player

Leafs get a goalie to hold the fort and a good prospect that is big to put with the rest.

10.) 10 Feb 2016 01:14:47
Reimer doesn't suck. Toronto does.

20 Nov 2015 16:14:11
The one player out there that is available that the Leafs need and Babcock loves is Hamonic! I know Toronto is not Western Canada but would he consider it and does Toronto have what it takes to pull this trade off how about this crazy idea
NYI - Hamonic, Lee
TML - JVR, Gardiner.

1.) 20 Nov 2015 17:04:20
He's going out west bud and that's not enough for Hamonic regardless.

2.) 20 Nov 2015 18:10:32
Agreed be is going to the west, but JVR and Gardiner is enough (without Lee)

3.) 20 Nov 2015 18:37:58
Too much 4 Hamonic.

4.) 20 Nov 2015 22:17:32
Yeah that's what I meant Hamonic and Lee > JVR and Gardiner.

5.) 21 Nov 2015 01:36:30
Too much from Toronto. That would get you jvr if islanders add.

6.) 21 Nov 2015 01:51:09
Jvr and gardiner for homonic? Are u guys kidding me? B that guy is jot worth jvr and gardiner both. NYI have to add.

7.) 21 Nov 2015 07:40:31
Lee is in the trade^ and it doesn't matter the only reason he is getting traded to is to go west. Dumb proposal.

8.) 21 Nov 2015 15:58:46
guys when did hamonic become a #1 dman. I keep seeing everyone overvalue him. just because he is their best defenceman doesn't make him a legit #1 guy. the isles don't have a great dcore in the first place (mind you he is an amazing player and guy)

but i'd have to say jvr (who is top line winger) is still worth more than him who i'd say is a #3/2 guy on most good teams which is why i'm saying i'm not taking anything away from him but how does he garner a top line winger (albiet not an elite one) and a top 4 dman

also they're both on great contracts so that doesn't really matter when u are comparing them

id like to hear some feedback and arguments but i'm confused why everyone is makiing him out to be some god like player XD (exageration :P)

11 Aug 2015 13:34:05
A trade that both teams can be comfortable in making
PIT - Malkin
NAS - Webber
Salaries match and its what both teams need
Who would have thought a trade that involves 2 star players

1.) 12 Aug 2015 02:40:27
I think penguins would decline honestly. If they move Malkin they fill a hole just to create a bigger hole at C.

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31 May 2016 13:43:16
If I were the Leafs i would think twice about giving Stamkos 10 M x 7 years with his health concerns i would lean more towards Tavares in 2017 Tavares is more durable and is 6 months younger how about bringing them both in
Stamkos - 9M x 7Y
Taveres - 9M x 7Y
Subtract Kadri and Bozak 9M
Subtract Lupul and Robidas 9M in 2017 after LTIR
The numbers add up.

1.) 31 May 2016 14:12:21
ahh i get get you so then we will still have money to pay nylander, marner, matthews and whoever else pans out?

2.) 31 May 2016 19:21:32
Don't need both with Matthews on the way plus I doubt Tavares leaves NY just my opinion and I agree I wouldn't go over 9M for Stammer.

30 May 2016 15:16:20
In my opinion the combo of Matthews and Mariner will perform magic together! The only problem is they need someone who can go into the corners mess things up someone who can protect them someone to look up to the Leafs don't have that right now so who is out there available? How about Lucic? Might fit the bill a little worried about foot speed can he keep up? The perfect player for me would be Wayne Simmons what would Philly want? Hmmmm any suggestions?

1.) 30 May 2016 17:23:19
Meh, I wouldn't waste a roster spot on a guy specifically to play with Matthews and Marner to protect them. Unless that player can play with them.

Sure Simmonds would be good. But I doubt TO makes that move.

2.) 30 May 2016 17:52:27
We have JVR, Leo Komerov?

3.) 31 May 2016 21:09:04
Lawson Crouse, Nick Ritchie and Max Johns would be nice long term.

04 May 2016 16:54:57
What the Leafs need is a true number 1 goalie i am so pumped in seeing all of these great prospects the Leafs developing and now with Matthews coming in what better player to come in and mentor him than Steve Stamkos believe me it is a sure thing if not he would have signed with the bolts! But this does not solve the goalie probs the worst thing would be to have a bright developing roster and a dud goalie letting in beachballs from the blueline! Would Lundquist be available from NYR and what would it take to get him? He is aging but its what we need.

1.) 04 May 2016 18:48:47
Leaf you're a Pond of the media! Its all made up from the media so that we cab have something to talk about lol! Its like the subban and Hall trade all made up from the media! Do you really think that stamkos Will go to the Leaf for less then 14 million? He want to win not to go to a losing rebuilding place!

2.) 04 May 2016 19:27:45
Honestly anyone who thinks Stamkos will sign in a canadian market is dreaming. No way that a player like Stamkos who is without a doubt looking to win now would sign with any canadian team.

3.) 04 May 2016 20:19:48
No one can claim to know what Stamkos will do. He's going to be pricey, so that rules out be majority of stanley cup contending teams. So he may not have that option.

As for him not going to a Canadian team, MTL with a healthy Carey Price and Stamkos is easily one of the top teams in the East. Ottawa has good goaltending and improved defensive depth. add Stamkos and they could make some noise.

My point is, I wouldn't rule anything out.

As for To, if they could sign Stamkos for a reasonable cap hit (which seems unlikely), sure bring him in, otherwise let him pass.

I agree TO needs goaltending, but it's not something they need tomorrow. I don't think Lunqvist is the solution. Too old and the team isn't ready to win now. They should focus on teams with a goaltending surplus (WAS, TAM, ANA) and try to get one of their young guys (Samsanov? ), or the starter (Bishop? ) . Or grab a veteran who's spinning his wheels on a bad team. Smith, Ward, Pavelec would fill the gap while they develop someone.

4.) 04 May 2016 23:26:18
As a Habs fan I would love to see Stamkos in Montreal, but there is no point in getting hopes up. Like you said, nothing can be ruled out.

5.) 05 May 2016 01:56:42
Honestly pretty much nothing is a sure thing until the point it happens in the nhl. Will Connor Mcdavid get traded? Almost certainly no, but what If Florida offer Ekblad and barkov and 3 firsts. You can't predict the future so don't try to act as if you can.

6.) 05 May 2016 02:52:13
I wouldn't mind seeing Stamkos in MTL either actually. Would give MTL a much more lethal forward group to go with solid D from Subban and obviously top goaltending from Price.

I'm still not convinced that Stamkos leaves TB. If the Drouin situation can be mended it may actually end up being TB that walks away, but all that remains to be seen. I've heard Detroit has strong interest in Stamkos as well, that would also be an intriguing place for him to end up in.

7.) 05 May 2016 19:34:45
^ i don't think he's leaving $$ on the table by leaving Tampa.

Detroit seems intriguing but they are in a tough spot with Datsyuk leaving. They will make it work if they want him obviously, but he may have to leave $$ on the table to sign there (or any where with a tight cap) .

09 Feb 2016 16:45:55
Leafs just traded Phaenuf to Ottawa in a huge 9 player trade!

16 Oct 2015 23:36:58
One would think both Stamkos and Kopitar would have signed extensions by now! In this day and age young stud stars never reach ufa. This tells me two things:

1) they are asking a bit too much in salary or

2) they have no intention of signing an extension. they just want to reach ufa and let there be a bidding war.

If I were the Leafs I would just wait it out and see if either players agent calls you July 1st I know the Leafs are in rebuild but Stamkos is only 25 he is young enough to be part of the rebuild Stamkos 7 y x 10.5M, Kopitar 7 y x 9M.

1.) 17 Oct 2015 01:53:41
You're wrong.

2.) 17 Oct 2015 08:08:05
Pinball, is that you?

3.) 17 Oct 2015 08:45:36
1. Surprise, surprise, but big contracts take time. Stamkos has repeatedly stated that he wants to win - in Tampa. 2. If it took the numbers you mentioned, they sure would not leave for the money. I'm 100% sure both Tampa and LA would offer 10.5 and 9 respectively. Stamkos has seen a team built around him in Tampa. Tampa is able to win NOW and in the future. Toronto is at least 3-4 years away from being competitive. I doubt Stamkos wants to waste his early prime playing for the 10th spot in the conference.

4.) 17 Oct 2015 10:48:07
Drai essentially said what I was too lazy to say.

5.) 17 Oct 2015 18:38:18
talking about this kind of stuff is really pointless. none of us know what kopitar/stammer and TB/LA management are thinking. once the season is over and if they still haven't signed I guess the discussion can be somewhat legitimate then, but not now. I hinestly hope it doesn't go on all year, though I know it will because of guys like Pinball and his buddies.

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15 Sep 2015 17:17:14
No reason for the Leafs to offer anything for Stamkos at this point. Its clear to everyone that Stamkos is not resigning in TO just wait until July 2016 offer him 7 y x 11 M in the meantime just be patient loose badly get another great draft pick let Nylander and others develop and sign Stamkos later. No need to give up anything at this point

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