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20 Jul 2018 20:40:10
Winnipeg: Trouba
Edmonton: Draisaitl

Leafs17

1.) 20 Jul 2018 21:04:08
I doubt Edmonton would do it and the Jets can't afford Draisaitl's contract. But value wise as long as Draisaitl can actually start carrying a line as a 2C, it is pretty good. 2C for a top pairing RHD.


2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:46:52
Memarcuswindowlicker approves.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 22:03:27
Oh boy. much rather Draisatl to Trouba.


4.) 20 Jul 2018 22:09:44
Lmao no from oilers come on joe.


5.) 20 Jul 2018 22:12:59
Edmonton needs Drat way more than they need Trouba. Also value wise it isn’t there. Imo. Especially Trouba thinking he’s a top 10 dman in the league. Not a chance.


6.) 20 Jul 2018 23:02:47
Sorry guys, I was just trying to make a point of how ridiculous all the Trouba trades were getting. I really didn’t think biasjoe would think this is fair.


7.) 20 Jul 2018 23:29:18
@McJesus,
I prefer you keep Draisaitl as well. The longer the Oilers have that much tied up in bad contracts up front and keep rolling out an ECHL quality defense, the longer they stay anchored to dead last in the West.


8.) 20 Jul 2018 23:47:12
Ya crap, back to back 70 point - 22 year old, big solid strong centers are so terrible to have. Sucks.


9.) 21 Jul 2018 03:18:53
Have fun resigning your core Marcus, especially when Trouba who ain't even the number one dman on your team wants 7 million and has temper tantrums because he's playing behind Buff.


10.) 21 Jul 2018 06:20:45
HAhahaha wtf sick chirp.


11.) 21 Jul 2018 09:12:37
ECHL quality defence? Larsson is just as good as Trouba. Klefbom and nurse are just as good as and if not better then Myers. Not do mention they grabbed Bouchard who has top 2 potential and have Bear in the pipe line. I’m pretty sure Klefbom would score 3 goals per period in the ECHL.


12.) 21 Jul 2018 11:26:53
Wow vbb. 👏👏👏. Salute - No sarcasm there.


13.) 21 Jul 2018 17:26:46
Vbb you just mentioned how to defence on Edmonton who are as good as Myers. The jets bottom pairing defence.


14.) 21 Jul 2018 17:31:42
This trade would only happen if the Oilers retained $2 mil per year of Draisaitls contract.


15.) 21 Jul 2018 19:44:36
@IJ your so biased, its not even funny, lol.

Your idea of a realistic trade is probably Nico Hischier for Trouba. Lol.


16.) 21 Jul 2018 23:25:54
Myers/ Moreissy is their 3rd best dman.


17.) 22 Jul 2018 00:09:06
Not even close vb. Myers is fourth at most probably fifth when kulikov is actually health. Myers has issues in his end.


18.) 22 Jul 2018 06:17:31
Haha alpaca. 2 weeks ago jets fans were saying Myers would be top pair on half the teams in the league. Now vbb names guys better and just to discredit that you say Myers is terrible lol. New level of little man syndrome. Most clueless fans.


19.) 22 Jul 2018 15:14:43
You'll notice none of those were me.


20.) 22 Jul 2018 15:59:08
You’re saying Kulikov is better than Myers lol and that no oilers Dman is as good as either of them. That makes you, islandjet and MarcusJoe all one. If you did a one to one comparison of why you would rather Myers over klefbom, I can respect that. Just coming out and saying no one on Edmonton is as good as Kulikov who was being scratched in buffalo after being traded from Florida for very little is clearly just trash. Klefbom and Larson are clearly better than Kulikov. And better than Myers.


21.) 23 Jul 2018 06:32:50
Never commented on edmontons defence. I simply pointed out that he compared them to Myers. Your reading an awful lot into my comments. And yes a healthy kulikov is as good or better than Myers.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 20:39:28
Winnipeg: Trouba
Toronto: Matthews

Leafs17

1.) 20 Jul 2018 21:06:06
Yes, let's see you talk Leaf fans into this. A generational player, 10 or 20 times better than McDavid for a crappy D man?


2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:38:19
ok this is obviously a bad trade but . Mathews 20x better than Mcdavid? that's a joke, Mcdavid is the best hockey player in the world . Mathews is Maybe Top 10.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 21:38:59
How about what a jets fan thinks biasjoe? Is Matthews good enough to carry a 2nd line? Is that enough to offer for a top 10 d man in the league?


4.) 20 Jul 2018 22:04:55
Who said Trouba was crappy and who said Matthews is so much better than McDavid? Marcus get your head checked please.


5.) 20 Jul 2018 22:41:38
No from jets Trouba is a god. He deserves 10 million because he’s a true #1rhd. It’s McDavid or bust- Jets fans.


6.) 20 Jul 2018 23:32:16
I for one have never heard anyone say that Trouba was crappy and I don’t even think that vbb’s would say Matthews is better than McDavid. Biasjoe has had a rough couple days to say the least.


7.) 21 Jul 2018 03:19:51
Trouba>EKs wheels + Kanes hands + Charas height + McDavids hockey IQ.


8.) 21 Jul 2018 05:55:17
I don't understand why everyone overvalues leafs players? I obviously don’t think he’s as good as McDavid he’s on the Eichel level imo. Maybe abit better ( 40 goals vs what ever Eichel got but yah ) .


9.) 21 Jul 2018 18:04:37
I never thought I would agree with vbbbvvbb. Matthews has shown in the playoffs that he is not a generational talent but a good player.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 20:38:56
Winnipeg: Trouba
Ottawa: Karlsson

Leafs17

1.) 20 Jul 2018 20:58:24
Ottawa adds. Karlsson is inconsistent and injury prone, whereas trouba is a star in the making, leading the jets to the conference finals.


2.) 20 Jul 2018 21:08:30
Nope. Jets can't afford to pay Karlsson what he wants with the players they have coming up for renewal.

Plus, as Montreal taught us, you don't trade a really good young defenseman for a really good old one.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 22:45:17
Crazyattack- I agree. Soccer has Renoldo, Basketball had Jordan, Baseball had Babe Ruth and the NHL has Trouba.


4.) 20 Jul 2018 23:08:29
Vbb that might be your best response ever lol.


5.) 21 Jul 2018 04:05:24
@vbbbvvbb finally the first time I agree with you, except its spelled Ronaldo


6.) 21 Jul 2018 05:56:18
Sorry man I don’t follow anysport besides hockey lol.


7.) 21 Jul 2018 16:15:55
And marcusjoe, you could also say that trade would never happen because Karlsson would never move to Winnipeg. Like Trouba has tried to leave and will again, his rights are owned there and didn’t want to be there. Why would a guy who could go to 31 cities be there. Couldn’t convince Paul Statsny to leave $750k on the table to live there for a chance to win, not getting a Karlsson anyway.


8.) 21 Jul 2018 17:34:41
No chance as the Jets won't be able to sign Karlsson for what he wants, unless the Jets trade him for what they would want.


9.) 21 Jul 2018 17:50:35
This is laughable easy Ottawa says no and walking away.


 

 

27 Apr 2018 11:45:09
My 2018/19 leaf line up. Keep in mind I am not a GM, nor have I been interviewed for the position, yet! I don't think my signings will go through because I seem to be the only one that cares about toughness. Anyways, Bozak is a must to resign. He's a great 3rd line center that kills penalties, wins face offs and is great in the shoot out. I'd love to see Komarov back as 4th line center. He takes face offs short handed and I believe he's played center in Finland and TO. I'm sure Plekanec will go back to Montreal. I don't see there being enough money to go around for JVR considering they still have to sign Nylander, then Matthews and Marner the following year. I say just small changes this year in hopes of taking a run at Doughty when the time comes.

Re sign - Nylander $6 for 6, Bozak $3 for 3, Komarov $2 for 2, Polak $1 for 1 and Carrick $1 for 1

Sign - Maroon $3 for 3, Prout $1 for 1

Walk - JVR, Plekanec, Moore

Just a guess on money and term

Matthews, Nylander, Hyman
Kadri, Marner, Marleau
Bozak, Kapanen, Maroon
Komarov, Brown, Johnsson
X - Martin, Leivo, Aaltonen(4th center?)

Zaitsev, Reilly
Hainsey, Gardiner
Prout, Dermott
X - Polak, Carrick

I just think Hainsey needs to be with Gardiner. The defense is still weak but the team would be a little tougher to play against. Maybe Liljegren is ready for 19/20 and they could have a legitimate top 4, hoping they land Doughty of course.

Leafs17

1.) 27 Apr 2018 12:45:00
Okay so heres what I think:
1. Resigning Komarov would be a big mistake, esp to that contract
2. Neither Bozak nor Maroon will come that cheap plus Maroon already pretty much said he wants back to the Oilers
3. As you basically said, Leafs still lack a top end D, they won't go anywhere without one, imo.


2.) 27 Apr 2018 14:03:43
I could see bozak coming back at a contract kind of like that but maybe a bit higher. He’s 4.2 mill now, and got that contract while playing top line for 4-5 years with kessel. He’s now very aware he’s behind Matthews and Kadri. I would think 3x3.5 or maybe even ideally for me would be like 2x3.75 or 2x4. It’s a discount for sure but it’s the only place he’s played and where he started his family. got to play those cards.

The fact komarov didn’t play the 4 games of the playoffs when he was healthy for 3 tells me that babcocks opinion of him has changed. Midway through this season I thought he was most likely to return, not any more.


3.) 27 Apr 2018 14:20:10
I'm guessing Maroon signs in Edm, NJ or STL.
I think Leafs main focus should be to find a top 4 D.


4.) 27 Apr 2018 17:39:43
Nylander 6x6 will not happen he’s easily going to demand more money as well.


5.) 27 Apr 2018 20:29:43
I know Maroon liked his time in Edmonton but this is a business. Do they bring back another big, physical winger or go with players that can skate? Komarov coming back is a long shot, especially because he is not a natural center which they lack. I just like him and was hoping to see him back. Still might need a 4th line center. McJ I don’t know what it will take to sign Nylander. Pastrnak is $6.6 and he is better than Nylander.


6.) 27 Apr 2018 21:48:11
Nylander can demand more money all he wants; he's not going to get it.

Pasta is a good comparable for him (same draft year) and he's way better and only makes 6.6.


7.) 27 Apr 2018 23:01:24
Might be a bit more than 6x6 but his playoff didn’t help his case. Pasternak and ehlers are both similar player types from the same draft and both have had slightly more success. They’re both on long term deals around 6.5 mill. I think that’s where it will be. Even outside those very similar comparisons there's Gaudreau, Monahan, Mackinnon, scheifele etc who were all really good players coming off entry levels in the last 2-3 offseasons and all got between 6 and 6.75 million. Draisaitl is the exception getting 8.5 and I don’t think that’s the new norm, that’s the one GMs will look at and realize it hurts their situation.


8.) 27 Apr 2018 23:36:59
Ya my only argument to Nylander getting more money is comparing himself to Drat who got 8.5 like you said, and his argument could be that he’s the next best player on Toronto and he could try to get 7 Mil+.


9.) 27 Apr 2018 23:45:54
unsportmanlike Nylander is getting at the very least 7 million for 8 years. he's a star in the making who has 2 60 points season before turning 22. Plus the fact he plays center is valuable. Toronto is going to have to pay him what he's worth. he's on of the stars in this team and knows it. If Mattews gets around 9-10 million he is going to want at least 70% of that. And max year 100%.


10.) 28 Apr 2018 01:34:43
@triplets You’re right they won’t be going anywhere next year with minimal changes. However, they were a period away from beating one of the top teams in the league. I just think the leafs should be patient for one more year and make a serious push for Doughty. Gardiner’s contract will be up, maybe they let him walk and Dermott slides into the top 4. I really don’t know if they can afford Doughty after signing Matthews and Marner. If they could fit him in without trading a young stud, they will be contenders.


11.) 28 Apr 2018 02:52:36
Colt, Matthews isn’t signing for 9 lol and marner has shown who the second best player is. Arguably it’s Matthews, marner, Rielly, Nylander.


12.) 28 Apr 2018 03:14:05
I love Nylander but if Nylander asks for 7 mil trade him for defensive help. He should not be making more then Pasta.


13.) 28 Apr 2018 03:20:30
Oh yeah Colt? Is he a gold medal winner like Muzzin?


14.) 28 Apr 2018 12:05:10
Fair point McJ regarding Drai. I would point out however (contrary to Colt’s post that was bereft of facts as usual) that Drai plays a lot at centre and has been effective (Nylander has merely had a few brief stints there and has not been able to hack it; he’s going to get paid for what he has done up till now and that is as a winger) .

Secondly, the Leafs have Lou Lam who is not an easy negotiator (ffs he won’t even let the kids have facial hair in the regular season) . I don’t think Nylander gets anything close to Drai money.


15.) 29 Apr 2018 15:04:20
* I meant the fact he can also play center is valuable.


 

 

21 Feb 2018 08:50:03
Just a thought. Would Draisaitl for Faulk & Rask/Lindholm be fair? Gives Carolina a #1 center and Edmonton the RD they need, plus a #3 center. I already know what FT4A will say, just wondering what normal Oiler fans would think.

Leafs17

1.) 21 Feb 2018 11:29:15
Looking at it again, maybe Draisaitl for Faulk, Lindholm plus? I don’t think Edmonton should trade Draisaitl at all but Carolina has some good assets to at least get Edmonton thinking.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 13:29:32
I think it would have to be lindholm Faulk and a pick for Draisatl.


3.) 21 Feb 2018 13:37:32
I be always been a fan OF Elias Lindholm and belief he still has the potential to become just as good or maybe better then Drai so big no from Canes. I think Drai' s stats are saturated and that If he played in Carolina he would be a 60 point player tops. Still good but Drai is like a Monahan you know? Do u trade Faulk and Linholm for Monahan? Nooo.


4.) 21 Feb 2018 15:12:27
It’s going to have to way more than that lol and no sorry Lindholm will never be just as good or better than Drat yikes man. And that comparison is whack lol.


5.) 21 Feb 2018 15:57:29
Oilers add, maybe Nurse, Yamamoto and 2018 1st.


6.) 21 Feb 2018 18:39:05
Leafs17

Austin Matthews for the crew you named instead seems more reasonable.


7.) 21 Feb 2018 20:03:23
Sorry oil fans. Trying to make your team better but that’s a monumental task. That is yet again a very original reply yup. FT4A, there is no crew in this league that could fetch an Oiler player is there? I guess you guys stick with 3 good centers and nothing else. Good luck with the tank job chirp.


8.) 21 Feb 2018 21:34:41
McJ and Ebs, please disregard any negative comments I make towards the oilers. I do like Edmonton and you guys seem ok. I really don’t think the Oilers should trade Draisaitl but they should be listening to every offer. Is there a package from Carolina you would accept?


9.) 21 Feb 2018 22:31:14
It’s not too bad I just think a lesser trade based around Nuge would be more realistic. I think Faulk and Nuge have closer values than Faulk and Draisaitl.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 00:17:58
Thanks Ebs. I think Faulk and Hopkins could be a one for one similar to Johansen and Jones. Maybe a small add somewhere. I do believe that Draisaitl has what it takes to bring in a top defenseman, top 6 forward and possibly more. You’re right about a Hopkins deal being more realistic but it doesn’t solve the winger issue. However, trading Draisaitl would hurt too much I’m guessing. I wouldn’t want to see him go if he was on my team.


 

 

 

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01 Mar 2015 01:27:13
I was reading rumors on another site and it says the Hawks have a ton of space yet this same site shows that they're over the cap. Just curious where you guys go to see salary caps? Thanks

Leafs17

1.) 01 Mar 2015 08:06:05
nhlnumbers now that capgeek is gone
maybe its sth about Kane on LTIR?


2.) Thanks


 

 

27 Feb 2015 01:39:56
Maybe selling out Maple Leaf Gardens & the ACC for years has finally paid off. I guess they're paying him out of their pockets. The leafs get a 5 million cap relief and I have a Clarkson jersey to burn. Chirp is going to be furious, a good thing just happened to the leafs. Please leave enough space on the page for his rant.

Leafs17

1.) 27 Feb 2015 08:12:04
he'll spin in some negative way somehow. probably rant on how toronto shouldn't be able to spend its way out of mistakes or something, but make no mention of savard in BOS or pronger in PHI who are essentially the same situation, except if those salaries were counted those 2 teams would go wayyy over the cap.


2.) I don't think anyone has an issue with players like that being put on LTIR and not counting against the cap. I think most people to take exception to it believe that those contracts should not be tradable so that teams can't buy themselves out of a hole they were stupid enough to put themselves in. Kinda unfair to teams that can't afford to do it because you drove a FA out of their price range then got out of it in a way most teams couldn't. That's the only issue I see with it. Still very shocked that trade went down huge deal for Toronto


 

 

04 Sep 2014 10:02:29
I've been the commissioner of a yahoo fantasy pool for a few years now if you guys would like me to set it up. The pool I run is head to head. If you're unfamiliar with that, one week I'd play you and the next week I'd play someone else and so on. Your total points are accumulated throughout the year. Head to head is used as a tie breaker. 8-12 of us would be perfect. If we had an odd number we could still do it, just not head to head. My pool has 11 stat categories. G, A, PPP, SHP, +/-, GWG and SOG for players. W, SO, GAA and save % for goalies. I don't do PIM because I don't feel you should be rewarded for taking a penalty. We draft 23 players each and dress 17 a night, from every position. League votes on trades so there's no cheating. There's other details you'd see when you sign up. I'm not familiar with keeper leagues or dynasty's, but this pool is very fun and interesting. Of course luck is involved like any pool, yet far from a crap chute. I've won the regular season three years in a row but lost in the finals the last two. Fantasy playoffs are the last three weeks of regular season. It may be a lot to take in if you've never played but it is very easy and not time consuming at all. If you are interested and would like me to set it up I will. I'm pretty sure I can set it up and post the league name & password for you to sign up. We can do an online draft one weekend before the season starts. Let me know!

Leafs17

1.) You having success in it proves its a crap chute. ha. see what I did there?


2.) Seems pretty straight forward. I am fine with you being the commish. Set it up and maybe get people to email you instead of posting the details on here.

Also a suggestion - ppls team names have to be their screen name on here - just to keep it real ;)


3.) Easy and not time consuming work for me. you guys figure out what you wanna do. if it's a one time draft and then just check out the standings kinda thing I'm in. if you guys wanna do it some other way then I'm out, best of luck


4.) 04 Sep 2014 23:13:03
IM IN


5.) 1 easy and not time consuming sounds good
2 do we need a commissioner?
3 someone has to explain fantasy hockey to me/others. the process please
4 can we play for dough or is it just bragging rights. cool either way
5 do I have to send my email address to someone I do t know. (draisaitl mentioned it I think)


6.) Looks like Ovie set one up.


 

 

03 Aug 2014 00:38:23
I'd love to see a contender sign Brodeur. Pittsburgh would be nice but Fleury would have to go because Brodeur wants to play. I think he'd make Washington a contender. What team do you think?

Leafs17

1.) I think he should have retired 2 years ago


2.) Best goalie ever


3.) 03 Aug 2014 17:27:37
theres no team in the league brodeur could start on now, nevermind a contender.


4.) Roy >>>>>>>>> Brodeur

Roy never played behind a trap defense
Marty was great, but he didn't create all his own success.


5.) Roy is ranked #4 in all time best goalie. Brodeur is ranked #1. Just cause you have a man crush on Roy doesn't meet he's the best.


 

 

22 Jul 2014 20:49:18
Leafs sign Booth, brutal. Finally someone that gets hurt more than Lupul.

Leafs17

1.) Pretty low risk/high reward signing. He's going to be better than Orr on the 4th line and could move up if he can get his sh*t together.


2.) Won't lie I don't like the leafs but booth at 1m is a great deal. Creates more completion within the wing group and also is a very small salary and cap so if he doesn't work out it's no lose. Some said Raymond at 1m was a bad deal at first but he scored 20? Goals, not too bad. I think with the added completion even if it's not booth scoring it will mean others have to step up their game.


3.) He will score 15+goals an put up 35+ points even if he only plays 60 games. call it mason raymond 2014-2015, playing for a contract next year, raymond parlayed a 1 million dollar season into 10 over 3 years.


4.) 23 Jul 2014 05:02:58
i don't see the downside to it. he's signed cheap to a 1 year deal, if he works out maybe he's another raymond, if he doesn't oh well who cares not like he's going to be a liability for years.


5.) If he does half of what you people think I will eat my words. I'd rather see some young kids get a chance since they didn't bother with any big names out there. I like that they made a little cap room, but sick of thinking they will sign a big name year after year. Every player they bring in is past their prime, or were once good before 15 concussions.


6.) I think Santorelli will be the Raymond of last year, not Booth. Hopefully they're both a steal.


7.) ^ Well it worked out well with Raymond. I get your point about getting the young guys some ice time and realistically, Santorelli, Kontiola, Booth, Frattin, Bodie are all guys who could be sent to the Marlies, in favour of those younger guys.

My point is that, even with the injury risk, Booth is a better option than Orr or McLaren. He is more skilled and can be relied upon for more than 5 min a game.


 

 

 

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21 Sep 2018 22:59:31
Simmonds will get a 1st at the deadline and possibly more if the flyers are out of contention.

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21 Sep 2018 22:56:54
Everyone should know pinball’s trades are usually ridiculous. That’s funny you say that unsportsmanlike, I was starting to think islandjet and memarcusjoe were the same people. They always reply on the same thread and there can’t be 3 jets fans. I think the black alpaca is a jets fan also.

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21 Sep 2018 04:17:08
I like it as a leaf fan. Manson would be in my top 5 choices for the leafs to target. Silfverberg is a solid 2 way forward as well which Nylander is not.

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20 Sep 2018 14:04:36
The value seems about right. It does leave a hole in the Vegas defense though like yupp said. I agree with ovie that Brown deserves to be moved up but I don’t think Kapanen has had much of a chance playing with some talent either. I bellieve Babcock has said himself that Brown seems to get the shaft often because of the depth up front.

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14 Sep 2018 22:55:48
That would be the d man I’d want too. No way StLouis trades him unless it’s a massive overpayment.

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I think that was a terrible deal by the lightning. Gudas, a 1st & 3rd for a 30 year old average d man. They could have had Polak for Gudas alone. Polak was the 1st name that I could think of, but there had to have been better options for cheaper. Personally, I hope the leafs keep Polak.

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@steamer do you understand that it doesn't go against Toronto's cap? Big difference. The owners are paying, they owe us one. They'll probably raise ticket prices to get their money back.

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That's Toronto for you. I think they should have waited too

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Not really

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