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06 Sep 2018 17:21:09
Ok I've been gone a while but I just saw some of the recent posts on here and couldn't help but laugh at how bad they are and how you people actually think they are anywhere near solid offers lol if you want a true gage on Karlsson value here's a real rumor that has been circulating from a far more reliable source.

Ott : Karlsson

Van : Hughes, 2 x 1st round picks 2019 and 2020

Or

Ott : Karlsson

Van : Hughes, boeser, 2019 1st

THAT is true Erik Karlsson value, not 3/ 4 of the garbage you people post.

A possible high pick and 2 top prospects or a top prospect and 2 possible high picks any less is laughable at best.

And duchene and stone value are pretty much what sakic got for duchene no less. get over yourselves with the outrageous offers you keep posting or leave the site.

NoBiasRambo

1.) 06 Sep 2018 18:06:16
A 2019 4th, Markus Granlund and Derrick Pouliot for EK is more likely than this trash.


2.) 06 Sep 2018 18:09:30
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! That second one is so funny.


3.) 06 Sep 2018 19:51:24
The second one is horrible.
As well the Canucks are in same position my Habs are in. they have a shot at number one overall. I wouldn't try and get Karlsson if I were Van. jus stay the course. they have some really good young peices. I see Horvat as a potential top leader in the game. when these guys are all un mid to late 20's. the Boesers. ect. they could be q really good team. however. by that time, Karlsson will be aging and taking up to much payroll IMO.


4.) 06 Sep 2018 19:59:27
Boeser straight up for Karlsson is probably fair, but risky for Vancouver because of age and injury history. The rest is garbage lol.


5.) 06 Sep 2018 20:04:03
NO LOL. Why would the Canucks ever do this?! Especially that second one, Jesus Christ.


6.) 06 Sep 2018 20:19:20
I’m sorry but I have to reply again. I just can’t belive that you had the nerve to laugh about ‘how bad some of the recent posts have been’ and then you post this?! LIKE WHAT?!

First of, we get it, Karlsson is one of the best in the game, great. Hughes is 8 years younger. For that reason alone I wouldn’t even trade him straight up for Karlsson, and you want to add two potential lottery picks as well?! Get real.

The second one is even worse. Again, a top 2 potential d-man in Hughes who is 8 years younger than Karlsson, Boeser who is a potential 40 goal guy (I don’t know where all the hate comes from with other fans but Boeser is seriously good. ) AND you want to put a potential lottery pick in there too.

Like just no.


7.) 06 Sep 2018 20:29:56
Boeser>> Karlsson.


8.) 06 Sep 2018 22:39:58
Hughes should be like 10 years younger wouldn’t he? Karlsson is a 2008 pick, and a 1990 birthday I believe. Hughes should be a 2000 or maybe a late ‘99. Rambos just being Rambo tho lol.


9.) 06 Sep 2018 22:44:36
Just the fact he thinks Duchene, coming off a very underwhelming season, with 1 year left before UFA is worth the same as he was a year ago with 2 years term left says all you need to know. Kyle Turris, Andrew Hammond, 2 1sts and a 3rd haha Sens would kiss any GMs ass to give them half of that now. And that’s not even taking into account there’s a decent chance that the 2019 1st rounder could be a 1st overall.


10.) 07 Sep 2018 00:13:12
Again, these comments are a joke. this is a real rumor unlike the garbage you people post on this site.

Karlsson is still in his mid to late 20s and still the number 1 defenseman in the world number 3 player in the world whether you like him or not. no chance he goes for less than that and yes I do realise those are possible lotto picks.

It takes talent to get talent whether you like it or not! And it don't matter what contract term a player has it never drops their value to 1/ 4 of its actual worth.


11.) 07 Sep 2018 00:19:38
And hugh will be good yeah but hell never be Erik Karlsson level.

Boeser > Karlsson comment is even more laughable than jim Carey Adam Sandler and Sean William Scott at their funniest and combined.

Newsflash folks young future stars and top draft picks are traded for current super stars all the time. those trades do actually happen while the trash you post don't unless the team is 100% desperate to move said player which Ottawa is NOT!


12.) 07 Sep 2018 00:30:18
And I'm curious as to what kind've trash you think dallas or Columbus can get for Seguin or panarin.

I bet the posts on those 2 will be better than the ones for Karlsson and duchene.

And obviously that's a joke too because if they get more respect from you guys that's pathetic considering both have gone on record already saying they want out of their respective cities with 1 year left on contract while Karlsson and duchene habs both gone on record along with stone saying Ottawa resign is their top priority. big difference guys.

And duchene did not go down in skill since trade for the record he took a little longer than expected to learn the new system and develop a chemistry which is something that does happen occassionally but he did kick it up a notch at end of year when it counted even though I wish he hadn't at that point.


13.) 07 Sep 2018 00:49:55
I’m sure that’s what Ottawa wants but that’s not what their going to get ya flamin homer.


14.) 07 Sep 2018 01:33:44
You don’t even know his age? “ mid to late 20s”.


15.) 07 Sep 2018 01:37:11
Damn, Rambo got salty real quick, he realized what a joke his post was and got embarrassed I guess. I’d like to know where these rumors came from anyways cause Benning has already come out and said that the Canucks were just kicking tired and nothing more 😂 I think you need new sources.


16.) 07 Sep 2018 02:05:46
Hahaha i can't wait for Karlsson to get traded. Going to be hilarious to see how Rambo contorts himself when the return is a third of what hey thinks it will be. The dissapointment is going to be delicious.

It's amazing how you keep setting yourself up for this. Would think you would have learned from being consistently proven wrong all the time.

But the dunce cap of ignorance is glad you're back. It's been lonely without you.


17.) 07 Sep 2018 11:17:46
I think Hoffman’s fiancé is sending Rambo trade rumors. What an angry mess this kid is. Telling people to get off this site is my favourite, bahaha!


18.) 07 Sep 2018 11:39:05
Dallas, a team in contention ain't willing to move Heisk for Rental EK.

What makes you think Vancouver will move their #2 prospect, their best player and a future top5draft pick for him then? Not everyone is Dorion buddy.

You were wrong about Hoffman, you’ll be dead wrong about EK too.

From Vancouver, I’d see EK pulling.

Juolevi + Gaudette + 1st?

Maybe?

If Melnyk forces Ryan to be attached then yiu know that that return is going to become way worse. no Gaudetta, and probably a 3rd added from Ottawa.


19.) 07 Sep 2018 13:54:02
No Rambo, The only joke here is you and what you post.


20.) 07 Sep 2018 16:15:38
@Rambo,

Seguin said he’s disappointed he doesn’t have a long term extension yet with the stars. How you took that as “I don’t want to be in Dallas” I will never know lol

Secondly, “Ottawa isn’t desperate” LOL. They don’t have a 1st rounder in 2019, their 3 best players walk to UFA the same day in July, their captain is in a legal Battle, the owner is threatening to move the team and the assistant GM had to step down to answer to sexual assault charges on a young man during a business trip! If that’s not ‘desperate’ for change then I would hate to see what you call dysfunction lol.


21.) 07 Sep 2018 18:21:59
Biasedjim that's exactly right Hoffman and his drama are "gone", former assistant FM is also "gone", all 3 stars have gone on record saying their number 1 priority is to resign with Ottawa, Anderson even recanted his trade demands saying the drama is gone and so long as it stays gone he's happy to stay as well. you're making problems where there is none and that 1st will be a playoff bubble pick at best not a lottery one.

And slapper I want wrong about Hoffman, Dorian just took a ridiculous trade as soon as he got a chance to get rid of him instead of waiting it out and getting true value like he should have done. and that package might get duchene but not Karlsson. Hughes and a 1st yo start is a must to start and then some of significant value not just a throwaway that will never crack NHL


And vbbvbb I know his age Duffus I'm making a point that has to do with his age bracket and level of play. he's just reaching his prom with many years to go and is already too 3 player and 1 defenseman in the world. if any players league wide could ever get a massive return he's one of them! Even when his prime years are over hell still be better than 75% of the players in the league. who wouldn't want a player like that on their team?


22.) 07 Sep 2018 19:20:34
I’ll just wait out this Karlsson trades as in the past ( going with a little history here) most super star players that get traded don’t get much in return. Both parties could be right but I personally don’t see Sens getting what they should be for him. As no team is willing to give up everything for him without a sure thing signing to go along with it. I think his value is to high to get back in a trade but I think they have to trade him as Sens will probably lose him after the year.


23.) 08 Sep 2018 00:14:57
I’m willing to wait and see. I’ll be surprised if he gets half of this. You responded to everyone but skipped over where Seguin said he wants out of Dallas. Where did you hear/ read that? You say he went on record, which just seems like one of your go to terms to convince people the Bs you’re spilling is real lol.


24.) 08 Sep 2018 15:55:26
Ctc55 your comment I can actually respect. I'm not saying there's not a chance that the Karlsson possible trade could be messed up bad as with that bum Dorian in charge there's always a slight chance, just look at Hoffman deal. but givin people are already calling for him to be fired for recent deals like overpayment on duchene, hoffman deal itself, burrows trade, and even taking back gaborik in phaneuf trade and still eating contract off phaneuf when he shouldn't have needed to. with him anything is possible but one would thing he should be under the gun and held accountable for what they get and thus should know enough to hold out for top dollar.

One part I didn't agree with however is the part where you said superstars don't get much in return usually. yashin, heatley, hossa, Fisher, vermette, brassard, rundblad, and elliot were all Sens trades which turned out pretty good for Ottawa. and Nashville getting subban for Weber, or kings getting Carter for Johnson, not to mention the return Colorado got for duchene, and Tampa trading drouin for sergachev. all of those off top of my head are pretty decent trades both ways not just one sided based on what each team was getting at time of trades.


25.) 08 Sep 2018 16:00:26
And biased him I actually did respond to Seguin comment it just wasn't approved I guess I don't know. but it was stated about a month and a half ago by Seguin himself that he has no intention of re upping in dallas, that he wants to go to a Canadian hockey market or back to the Bruins. tsn, NHL, sportsfeed, ESPN, etc had all reported it. if you actually followed reality instead of your own little fantasy world here you'd know that already!


26.) 08 Sep 2018 16:32:32
The only fantasy world here is the one you're in where you think you can get Hughes, Boeser, 2019 1st for EK65.


27.) 08 Sep 2018 18:02:13
Lmao we could get mcdavid for horvat boeser hughes lmao.


28.) 09 Sep 2018 04:10:31
lol. No you probably couldn't actually.
Not to a divisional rival no matter how that value is perceived.


29.) 10 Sep 2018 06:05:28
Rambo the only ones out of those that is labeled a superstar player is hossa, Heatley and yashin but even then they aren’t in the same situation.

I agree Karlsson is probably one of the best players in the NHL but that’s why his value is so off, if you look and teams who have traded those players none got great pieces coming back to the amounted to what the player they traded is worth. It’s one of those situations that if he fully says he’s not resigning he’ll be traded at 50%-75% of his actual worth. The only way he gets full price is if another superstar is coming back with other pieces but I don’t see that happening it might but I don’t see it.


30.) 11 Sep 2018 15:55:03
Also ctc55 Karlsson never said he dindnt intend to resign, infact it's quite the opposite as he stated he fully intends to come back to Ottawa he just doesn't want another full team discount he wants to be paid and covered in case of a lockout.

While a lot of these situations are different yes, a lot of them are far worst situations.

Heatley for hossa after heatley car crash.
Heatley for michalek and company after he slept with spezza wife and daddy cried for trade.
Weber for subban after in fighting with team mates and coaches on subban part.
Carter deals are my favorites as he was moved after sleeping with Richard's wife in philly then acquired by kings who already had Richard's as well for Johnson who was in middle of money issues.

And then the closest one to Karlsson situation is yashin one. only difference is yashin was being greedy while now the team just being cheap. and the return for yashin was a decent roster player, a blue chip prospect zdeno chara, and what would become the number 2 pick in that years draft in jason spezza.

Yashin was known to be 100% gone and still pulled that kind of return while Karlsson is still undecided but want to remain a sen and is a better player in a more valuable position. so who's to say he can't pull a full value return of more than what yashin got them? Its definitely not out of the question just like a trash trade isn't out of the question I mean we are talking about doron here after all, it could go either way, I'm just saying after all the trash trades he's done he's going to want to do this one right if he wants to save face in Ottawa and get back on good terms with the fan base.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 14:34:05
Rumor has it Seguin wants to go to a Canadian team. how bout.

Ott : Karlsson, Ryan, Anderson

Dallas : Seguin, spezza, bishop

Ottawa unloads Ryan for a bigger contract worst player with less term in spezza while picking up a goalie to replace andy.

NoBiasRambo

1.) 20 Jul 2018 15:35:53
Don’t see how this makes Dallas any better. Karlson would up grade there d no question but then there offence takes a huge hit losing seguin for Ryan and goaltending they get worse to.


2.) 20 Jul 2018 15:39:13
This is better for Ottawa when it comes to filling needs. All Dallas would have at forward would be Benn and Radulov really.


3.) 20 Jul 2018 15:51:37
Are you sure he didn’t say any Canadian team other than Ottawa?


4.) 20 Jul 2018 15:55:52
Lol. Dallas laughs.


5.) 20 Jul 2018 16:09:56
I guess Hanzel would be the 1c 🤔 Spezza is Franchise corner piece compared to Ryan. Anybody sain would want spezza.


6.) 20 Jul 2018 16:11:20
They would take a hit offensively but it wouldn't be a huge one really.

Ryan puts up 0.53 + points per game with the exception of 2 seasons ago where he was having major health issues, his 3rd lowest points per game total was the 2013 / 2014 season where he put up 0.69 points per game.

Seguin puts up 0.88 + points per game

At the same time though.

Karlsson as a defenseman puts up 0.80 + points per game.

And jason spezza gets 0.74 points per game usually with the exception of this past year where he got 0.33 points per game a career low to be sure.

Goaltending I wouldn't say they get worst. older yes. but not worst. bishop been sortve shakey the last 2 years while Andy had 1 bad year after all that drama going on. plus Andy ìs a better playoff goalie for sure.


7.) 20 Jul 2018 17:44:18
Vbbvbb Ryan plays top 6 and still puts up respectable numbers. spezza plays 4th line and puts I
Up peanuts now. Ryan also plays at both ends while spezza is never back checking I've seen the guy play lots bu far Ryan is an upgrade on spezza there's no question on that. I wander if you even think before you type stuff like that?

Also know that benn was a center before Seguin was even in dallas, he centered eriksons line so no hanzal wouldn't be number 1 and Ryan is STILL a top 6 forward.


8.) 20 Jul 2018 18:02:08
Ho is this better for Ottawa in terms of needs? Lol

Skill for skill = number 1 center for bonafide number one defence

Bad contract swap = top 6 winger for bottom 3 center

Goalie swap = regular season performer 1/ 2 the time for playoff performer

Only thing Ottawa gets out of it is a bid contract with shorter duration. the rest look almost dead even.


9.) 20 Jul 2018 18:02:59
Ryan is top 6 on a nediocre to bad team, not a good team.


10.) 20 Jul 2018 19:09:05
Ryan.


11.) 20 Jul 2018 20:35:04
List of problems with this:

Seguin for Karlsson both with a year left is close. Edge goes to Karlsson but not by a ton as seguin is younger and will be able to be signed a bit cheaper. But bishop for Anderson is laughable.

Spezza has a bigger contract?! Yeah by 250k for 1 yr vs 4 yrs of Ryan lol hell no.

And Ryan puts up respectable #s and spezza is 4th line putting up peanuts?!

Over the last 3 seasons Ryan has played 205 games with 119 pts (.58 pts per game) . Spezza played 221 games with 139pts (.63pts per game)

And you say spezza only plays 4th line, so he out produces Bobby Ryan on the 4th line and you want stars to eat 3 extra years at 7.25 mill?!

And lastly spezza has a NMC. He already ran from that sh*thole once. You think he’s waiving to go back?! Lol.


12.) 20 Jul 2018 21:00:20
Personally IDK how you can call Ryan and Spezza = in terms of value

Spezza last 3 seasons
2015-2016 GP:75 G:33 P:63
2016-2017 GP:68 G:15 P:50
2017-2018 GP:78 G:8 P:26
Cap hit 7.5M Length 1Yr

Ryan last 3 seasons
2015-2016 GP:81 G:22 P:56
2016-2017 GP:62 G:13 P:25
2017-2018 GP:62 G:11 P:33
Cap hit 7.25M Length 4Yr


Ryan has produced less in 2 of the last 3 years then Spezza only 0.25M less but for an extended 3 years past Spezza.

Rambo you can't honestly think Ryan is a top 6 forward can you? Think for a second if a person was suggesting a player to be traded to Ottawa that had similar point totals and contract would you be happy and say we got a proven top 6 winger from this trade?


13.) 20 Jul 2018 21:09:32
Rambo how do you think of this trade

David Backes for Bobby Ryan.

I'm only looking for your opinion to see how you value players.


14.) 20 Jul 2018 21:51:29
Rambo proposals and facts don't mix.


15.) 20 Jul 2018 22:47:58
So if Ryan is that much better that Spezza why would you want to make the trade. It's hilarious how people can put up completely biased trades then try to justify it by saying their teams player is amazing and the other teams player coming back is crap. If their crap then why trade for them.


16.) 20 Jul 2018 23:18:54
Still waiting to see a response to how .58 pts per game is “respectable 2nd line numbers” and .63 pts per game is “peanuts for a 4th liner” lol

Rambo never let's a fact get in the way of a good story though.


17.) 21 Jul 2018 00:58:37
Just letting everyone know I meant every sain person would take Spezza over Ryan.


18.) 21 Jul 2018 18:11:44
Why make that trade yupp? Easy the 1 year left on spezza is why. if we can't flip him before his contract expires we can afford to let him walk for nothing and not miss him that's why.

I'm not arguing spezza production when playing big minutes ctc I'm saying Ryan's number are nearly as good with a huge difference being that for every goal spezza is a part of offensively he is responsible for 4 more against his team. giveaway with no backchecking hurt your team no matter how many you score. Ryan is far more responsible in that regard which is why he still plays top 6 while spezza was recently demoted to 4th line si yeah 100% coming from someone who's seen both guys play I'd take Ryan any given day of my life but it's a business and trying to dump a 1 year bad contract is better than trying to dump a 3 year bad contract.

Speaking of bad contracts jim you might want to look back at your poor research. spezza makes 8 million on a cap hit this I know for a fact as it was Ottawa that signed him and heatley to those deals.

N donscherry Ottawa is not a mediocre to bad team they just had a bad year due to a lot of different factors that I am done repeating to children. at worst they are an average to above average team that much is common sense.


19.) 22 Jul 2018 03:35:21
You're confusing common sense with delusional fantasies again bud.


20.) 08 Aug 2018 16:53:14
The Sens will say no to any deal including Spazza, do your homework. spazza demanded a trade from Ottawa.


 

 

12 Jul 2018 23:51:13
Mon : Weber, pacioretty

Pit : kessel, sheahan or brassard

Thoughts?

NoBiasRambo

1.) 13 Jul 2018 01:40:04
That's terrible for the pens. Weber is out for basically the entire season, he has a shitty contract, and he's rapidly declining. Who know how he'll be when he comes back. Kessel has way more value than pacciorety. So to sum it up a declining player on a terrible contract, a scoring winger who has 1 year left and is coming of a bad year for one of the premier snipers of the game today, and a very good 3rd or 4th line centre.


2.) 13 Jul 2018 04:46:03
“ rapidly declining “? Please make an argument because I know you can’t. Please don’t say his feet gave out because he’s never been a good skater he doesn’t rely on skating he’s still a number 1 dman and I’d love him on the leafs with a little bit of retention I’d definitely do Horton+Ziatsev+ for Weber at ( 6 mil )


3.) 13 Jul 2018 06:14:01
No from the Pens.


4.) 13 Jul 2018 06:24:49
Patches- 30 years old coming off a 37 point season. Has been productive but is he declining?
Webber- missed 56 games and will miss at least half a season this year. At 33 and with that contract, too risky.

Kessel-31 and coming off a 92 point season. 55 more points than Patches.
Brassard- 46 points
Sheehan at 26 and at 6’3 is a very valuable bottom six forward who put up 32 points.

Pittsburgh would lose this trade badly.


5.) 13 Jul 2018 14:36:27
Horton, Ziatsev + for Weber $1M retain? Montreal laughs at you Vbb. Whatever your little + is would wipe out Horton and then it's almost Ziatsev for Weber with retaining a mil. That's so bad. Take out Horton and that + better be something pretty damn good more like it.


6.) 13 Jul 2018 15:36:34
Not saying Pittsburgh would win the trade ( because the wouldn’t ) but saying Weber Is “rapidly declining” shows you never watched him play and you guys can hit the dissagree button all you want but no one can make an argument for how he’s any less effective then he was 3 years ago. Still a top 10 dman who will still be effective in the nhl until he’s 40+ exactly like chara. Also Patches is still Elite. he shot at an absurdly low shooting percentage this year. If he shot at his percentage from his prievice season he’d have 35 goals.


7.) 13 Jul 2018 18:49:23
I wouldn't call Patches elite at this point, but would be interested to see what he can do on a good line.


8.) 13 Jul 2018 21:32:36
Depends what you call elite. He can’t drive a line but he can score off the rush like the best in the game.


9.) 13 Jul 2018 22:07:35
Omg I actually find myself agreeing with some of vbbvbbs points for once. did hell freeze over? Lol

But I understand the Weber being down for half a season too that makes sense too.

But rumor has it kessel wants out of Pitts and they are trying to trade him. I figure patches would minimize the loss and on a team like Pitt patches and Weber can more than find their stride again while Montreal would address 2 glaring need at once. they would add scoring big time plus get a center they desperately need.


10.) 13 Jul 2018 22:09:45
I find he can be one dimensional - and i'm a habs fan. He has the size to be more of an impact player but just doesn't do it.


11.) 14 Jul 2018 06:19:03
Fyi, there is a salary cap in the nhl.


12.) 14 Jul 2018 11:04:55
Webber has no vaule any more with that contract.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 21:19:21
Only because it would be cool to have 2 nylanders together plus toronto has to make a move or 2 before they lose one of the other 3 of the big 4 to free agency due to no cap space

Tor : Gardiner, brown

Buf : a. Nylander

Marleau Tavares marner
Nylander Matthew's nylander
Hyman karri martin.

NoBiasRambo

1.) 11 Jul 2018 21:55:54
The Leafs are not going to lose one of the big 4 due to cap space. The only potential cap casualty will be Marleau, and that is not a certainty.

I wouldn't expect someone with your mental capacity to be able to handle the math, but there's this program called microsoft excel that might help you develop an informed opinion instead of spewing your usual nonsense.

Also, your lines are as ignorant as your trade proposals and Martin does not play for the Leafs anymore. You're really owning that dunce cap.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 22:10:51
Just stop Rambo. They’re not losing anyone, anytime soon. Toronto doesn’t need another forward and you don’t make trades because it’s cool.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 22:37:55
Even if they sign Nylander, Mathews and Marner for 10 mil each they’d still have cap space LOL obviously they’re not going to sign for 10 mil so the leafs are good.

Value wise I would probably give a 3rd from the leafs Nylander has proved nothing he can't even get playing time in the AHL on an infieror team let alone get time on the Calder cup winning marlies and especially not the leafs.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 23:18:32
And leafs Defense is their weaker point, offense is stacked with skill. So let’s trade our 2nd best defenseman and a penalty killing/ checking forward with 20 and 14 goals the last 2 years for a skilled forward who hasn’t made good strides since being drafted lol that’s Rambo Logic at its best. Just do us a favour and stick to solving Calgary’s goalie problem of 36 year old Mike Smith with 37 year old Craig Anderson lol

Rambo is like those late night infomercials selling blankets with sleeves. He solves problems you didn’t know you even had haha.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 23:37:56
I'm pretty sure buffalo mixes that.


6.) 12 Jul 2018 00:25:00
Did anyone notice he put Martin in the lineup ( NYI ) and Left Kappanen out?


7.) 12 Jul 2018 03:43:26
Yeah ok. because 25 million free space is more than enough to get nylander ar 7 to 8 million marner at 8 to 9 million and Matthew's at 10 to 11 million and still have extra cap to sign the rest of the team. Makes total sense my math totally sucks that totally makes 10 million used not 25 to 28 million used right guys? Get real and do the math yourself and stop making ridiculous comments cap doesn't always go up either it goes down too and even if it goes up it's not by more than 2 to 3 million tops.


8.) 12 Jul 2018 11:23:04
Gardiner and Brown for Karlsson. The leafs take on more salary just to prove Rambo wrong. Ottawa gets the better defenseman in the deal and a top 6 sniper. Maybe NY will give you Martin and you can slot him alongside Stone.


9.) 12 Jul 2018 11:36:34
Lmao, you kinda explainedit to yourself Rambo.

We know that the Leafs will be pressed against the cap. We know Marner/ Nylander/ Matthews combined will be about 23 million. That remaining 3ish millioj goes into filling holes (bottom 6 d, fourth line, etc) . Thatll be for year 2019/ 20. Afer that, Marleaus offf the books and we gain more cap space. And even if we did need cap space, what good does trading for Alex Nylander do?


10.) 12 Jul 2018 12:41:32
Since I am a firm believer in supporting kids with special needs, I'll take the time out of my morning to once again educate you Rambo.

Marner and Matthews are still on entry level contracts this season.

Nylander needs to be extended, but it will not be for "7 to 8 million" as you so daftly put. Give your head a shake and look and comparables. Pastrnak (same draft year, better player) was extended at $6.7 million. Nylander is not going to make a million more per year than him.

The Leafs have zero cap issues heading into this year. Get that through your thick skull. They have over $20 million in space (once you account for Horton on LTIR) with only Nylander to extend and a few Marlies/ cheap UFA signings to plug bottom end roster spots. When all is said and done they will have around $5 mln extra space to play with at the trade deadline.

The 2019-2020 season is when things could get tighter, depending on where the cap shakes out. For 2018-2019 it is currently projected to be $79.5 million (upper limit) . It may not increase much from that in 2019-2020, but it is certainly not going to decrease, especially in light of further expansion eventually coming (Seattle) .

Here's who the Leafs have signed already for 2019-2020 (not including Horton who will be on LTIR) :

Tavares (11 mln)
Marleau (6.25 mln)
Kadri (4.3 mln)
Hyman (2.25 mln)
Brown (2.1 mln)
Rielly (5 mln)
Zaitsev (4.5 mln)
Dermott (0.863 mln)
Andersen (5 mln)
Kessel buyout (1.2 mln)

That's ~$42.5 mln.

Add (projected signings) :
Nylander (6.5 mln)
Matthews (11 mln)
Marner (8 mln)
Kapanen (2.1 mln)
Johnsson (2.1 mln)
Gauthier (0.675 mln)
Grundstrom (0.925 mln)
Marchment (0.7675 mln)
Leivo (1.0 mln)
Liljegren (0.894 mln)
Rosen (1.1 mln)
Borgman (1.1 mln)
Ozhiganov (1.1 mln)
Sparks (1.0 mln)

That's ~$38.3 mln, for a total of ~$80.8 mln for a full 23 man roster, not much higher than the current projected limit for 2018-2019. If the cap goes up by a few million, the Leafs may not have to do anything. Worst case scenario, Marleau (who will be owed only ~$4 mln in actual salary after his bonus is paid on July 1st) could be traded to a team looking to get to the cap floor.

The Leafs will have options and are not in a cap bind such that one of the big four will have to be traded. Dubas has said this. Maybe Nylander is traded for help on the back end, but that will be for a similar caliber player on Defense, making a similar amount of money. Maybe if you did not still have guys like Martin who don't even play for the Leafs in your lineup you could see this.

School's out kiddo.


11.) 12 Jul 2018 14:04:01
You missed gardine did you not?


12.) 12 Jul 2018 14:20:41
Rambo, you spend a lot of time trying to poke holes in the leafs plan and recent/ future success for a guy who’s team in the last year:
-had owner threaten to move the team
-lost a Duchene trade
-ignored the harassment of your superstars family
-had their assistant GM arrested for molestiing a young man at the draft combine
-has wives taking out restraining orders against each other
-lost hoffman trade BAD
-had best player/ captain say publicly he’s done playing for the organization
-pending lawsuit against Ceci
-low-balled next best player (Stone) and he’s in arbitration, a year away from UFA
-drafted 4th overall this year, team is far worse next year and Avs own your pick


Maybe you should focus more on the senators, because leafs Owners, management, coaching and players seem to be in pretty good shape lol.


13.) 12 Jul 2018 14:27:23
@Alpaca: Gardiner's contract is up this year, and I suspect he will want more than the Leafs are willing to pay him (I'm sure he could get more on the UFA market), so I did not include him on their 2019-2020 roster.


14.) 12 Jul 2018 21:46:19
I love it. Rambo and half the internet trying to turn signing Tavares into a bad thing. All of a sudden the leafs are going to have to dismantle the plan and lose Nylander, maybe Marner as well. Did they improve their defense, no. Did they bring in an absolute stud #1 center, yes. Get over it Rambo and anyone else who can’t handle the progress a team that struggled for years is making. If ONE of the young guns are traded, it will be for a defenseman like others have said. If there is cap issues, worst case scenario is trading Nylander for a 3-4 million dollar defenseman and a high draft pick. They’d save a couple million (assuming Nylander gets at least 6), get a 3-4 d man and re stock the cupboards.


15.) 13 Jul 2018 00:06:29
I'll have the popcorn ready next July when toronto is trying to choose which star to match an offer sheet on and which one to let go to to cap restraints.


16.) 13 Jul 2018 01:05:16
rambo, seriously do you think marner and matthew get to rfa without extensions, even if they did, both of them, do you seriously think the leafs wouldn't laugh at getting 4 first round picks for the amount of money that offer sheet would need to be for it to make the leafs not able to match due to "cap restraints"?

you are the new montrealfinest. you are the GOAT.


17.) 13 Jul 2018 02:25:06
Cool. When neither of those things happen hopefully we will not have lost count of everything else you have been wrong about. it's hard to keep track of.

Should the Leafs be worried about an offer sheet for Matt Martin? Asking for a friend.


18.) 13 Jul 2018 06:41:02
Have the popcorn with the peanuts you got for Hoffman.


19.) 13 Jul 2018 11:31:22
Peanuts for brains** @Leafs17.


20.) 13 Jul 2018 11:54:43
This guy makes FairTrade4all sound completely rational. I don’t think we’ve heard from him since the Eberle trade. There’s a few decent Oiler fans on here, but he was special. Kind of like Rambo.


21.) 13 Jul 2018 12:56:47
It don't matter how many 1sts they get if they don't match if the team that lands one of them is a playoff contender. 1 out of 4 might make a small difference in that case if they're lucky. plus they only get 4 if the offer sheet is 10 mln +.


22.) 13 Jul 2018 14:32:12
If the offer sheet is less the 10+ million the Leafs will have the cap space!


23.) 13 Jul 2018 15:05:53
Well yeah, and if it was under $10 mill for an offer sheet on Matthews, the leafs would match it and celebrate because that’s cheaper than he will sign here for lol you make zero sense.

And if it’s over $10 mill for marner, they take the 4 1st rounders and pack marners bags for him. If it’s between $8-10 mill we would get 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd. Then would have to see where those picks would be (which team it is) and make a decision.

This management has planned for this. They didn’t go from dead last to a serious contender in 30 months by accident lol just keep making a fool of yourself, it’s entertaining seeing you so jealous that your team is in the toilet on and off the ice and the rest of the league is picking on them like vultures haha.


 

 

11 Jul 2018 13:44:43
Ok so how about this. I actually would mind this just because its would give Ottawa a toughness they've really never had.

Ott : Karlsson, Anderson (g)

Cal : m. Tkechuck, andersson (defense prospect), and a 1st

Then if that happens.

Ott : gaborik, 5th

EDM : lucic

Tkechuck duchene Ryan
Tkechuck brown stone
Lucic pageau boadker
Dzingle Smith paajarvi

White and chlapic as scratches

Chabot wideman
Andersson ceci
Lajoie borowieski

Might not be as skilled as leafs up front but would definitely be hard team to play against and tough as nails.

Calgary adds both the goalie they desperately need and the best defenceman in the world.

Edmonton gets rid of useless lucic AHL may find a way in Ottawa to rejuvenate his career.

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1.) 11 Jul 2018 14:44:03
Mike Smith - 36 years old
55gp 25 wins 2.65GAA .916sv%

Craig Anderson -37 years old
58gp 23 wins. 3.32GAA. .898sv%

Thanks for solving Calgary’s goaltending problems lol Craig Anderson is what they ‘desperately need? ’ Haha

Secondly, Calgary’s blue line is not where they need help. It’s scoring wingers and also being hard to play against (tkachuk) . With Giordano, Brodie, hanifin, hamonic they’re solid. So again Sens are clearly giving the best player, but this trade helps them way more than it helps Calgary. Anyone would want to add Karlsson, but flames are losing what they really need to gain a luxury that should not a major concern for them. Why?


2.) 11 Jul 2018 15:05:54
lol. Calgarys MVP was their goalie Smith last season. Geez.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 16:41:36
I feel like Stone would be more of an interest then Karlsson.

Stone ( RFA ) and Dizingel for Tkachuk and Brower ( cap )

Dizingel replaces Tkachuk on the 2nd line making Dizingel-Backlund-Lindholm. Then Stone give them that top line RW they “desperately need” who is litterly the perfect fit for Mohnahan-Guadreau

Meanwhile Tkachuk is only 20 and already a presance in the NHL. Could be the bright spot for Ottawa’s future.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 18:18:32
Vbbvbb first off stone going no where

2nd off no chance brower would be part of a deal like this stone => tkechuck and dzingle >>>>>>> brower plus no cap issue with dzingle like brower


How you come up with you player trade value is beyond comprehension.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 18:12:33
Fair enough on calgary's needs though I do believe it's an upgrade in nets yes Andy coming off a bad season but so is the entire Ottawa team as a whole. he has proven he can steal games when needed and he steps up huge in playoffs. Smith however I've never really been sold on since he played for Tampa.

The needs thing makes sense though I can agree with that to a degree but then again they did just sign neal to approach that couldn't they flip gio for a forward? Word is he is on block.


6.) 11 Jul 2018 19:29:51
Stone is about to be a lot more expensive and Calargry will need to dump cap to fit in 7-8 million for Stone. Tkachuk definitely has more value. Ottawa has no need for cap space as they’ll be near last place in the nhl for a few seasons.


7.) 11 Jul 2018 21:03:49
Tkechuck has slightly more cap value temporarily until his entry contract expires but stone has more skill value at both ends of ice and term value as well seeing as how when tkechuck is due for a new contract the average rate will be higher than it is now while stone is locked up at cheaper rate.

Hence stone =/ > tkechuck

Ottawa will not be last, though it is a tough time they do still have a skilled team. Carolina Arizona rangers Detroit calgary Edmonton Vancouver islanders are all just as bad if not worst and most of them don't have as many skilled players like stone Karlsson (or what ever we get for him) duchene brown tkechuck chabot wideman dzingle and yes, boadker and ryan.


8.) 11 Jul 2018 22:02:31
At the moment it looks like Stone is heading to arbitration. If he is not signed long term before then he will walk away with a one-year deal ending him with him a free agent.

You can bet your bottom dollar he would be entertaining offers from other teams at that point, perhaps eager to escape the dumpster fire that is the Ottawa Senators organization.

But I'm sure Melnyk will be eager to pay the man before then, right? He's never low-balled a star player or anything.


9.) 11 Jul 2018 22:39:32
vbbbvvbb, did u just say M. Tkatchuk has more value than mark stone. Have you watched mark stone play. He single-handedly carried Ottawa last year with points (averaged over 1 point a game). Yes Matthew is a good player, but he's nowhere near Mark Stone's level of play and Hockey IQ.


10.) 11 Jul 2018 23:49:46
Lol mark Stone is arbitration bound and almost guaranteed he’s leaving via UFA next season if he’s not traded.


11.) 12 Jul 2018 00:33:42
I love Stone Crinamally underated. He is the best offensive player on the Sens but they should trade him he’s in his prime and almost certainly won’t spend his prime years in the dumpster fire of Ottawa he'll sign a one year contract and he’ll probably leave via trade at the deadline or as an UFA . He had the best giveaway/ Takeway ratio in 2016/ 2017 in the nhl and is an Elite 2 way presance

But Tkachuk has more value he’s 5 years younger and strong defensively and offensively. Potential 70 point man. He’s also elite physically which is rare these days I believe he’d be a fan favourite in Ottawa with Karlsson leaving he’s be the face of the Franchise.

Maybe Calargry would need to add a prospect like Anderson ( NHL ready RHD )


12.) 12 Jul 2018 03:50:44
I'll take a bet on stone not leaving Ottawa Mike. name your price but make sure you're willing to pay up.


13.) 12 Jul 2018 15:02:08
Not sure the allowance you get from your mom is something you should be gambling.

I don't think it's more likely that Stone leaves than stays, and if it were any other organization in the league would 100% expect Stone to be signed long term before he gets to arbitration. But this IS the Senators we are talking about, so I would not be surprised by any means if Melnyk low balls Stone and refuses the offer, heads to arbitration, signs a one year deal via arbitration, and then tests free agency next summer.

If Melnyk is not willing to pay him what he is worth, it's not like there is a lot of reasons right now to stick around long-term on a hometown discount. The team is going to be garbage for the next few years.


14.) 13 Jul 2018 15:12:56
The team will not be garbage 1 bad year after all that garbage drama doesn't change things.
Hoffman out tkechuck in takes care of that.
phaneuf gone is a huge plus.
Karlsson healthy or the crazy return we could get for him will help emensly.
Brassard I never really liked anyway so brown can fill that role no issue.
The only possible worry would be the looming Anderson trade and who would take his place.

Aside from all that they still have duchene stone pageau and dzingle. Boadker despite over payed adds quickness and a little skill, Ryan still puts up respectable numbers, chabot going to break out even more especially if Karlsson gets traded. And their prospect pool is vastly underrated and highly skilled.

They play be a playoff bubble team might make it in might not but won't be a bottom feeder again this year. And if melnick paid Ryan like he did he will pay stone.


15.) 13 Jul 2018 17:42:44
Rambo, no one will actually bet with you. You ‘guaranteed’ the top 10 pick + for hoffman and now that you’re wrong you say its a joke and a technicality because they should have got more lol

If I bet you on stone leaving and he walks via UFA, you will say it doesn’t count because they didn’t even really want him anymore.


16.) 15 Jul 2018 17:13:43
Jim, take the bet or close your mouth. the fact is haffman is worth a top 5 to 10 pick whether you like him or not. We did get fleeced on that deal because our GM is incompetent. brian Murray could have gotten that maybe more for Hoffman if he were still alive and in charge. even muckler could do better seeing as how he got the 2nd overall (spezza), chara, and a 3rd piece for yashin.

And I believe my guarentee was we could get that if we had a better GM that wasn't named pierre dorian.


 

 

 

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11 Sep 2018 15:55:03
Also ctc55 Karlsson never said he dindnt intend to resign, infact it's quite the opposite as he stated he fully intends to come back to Ottawa he just doesn't want another full team discount he wants to be paid and covered in case of a lockout.

While a lot of these situations are different yes, a lot of them are far worst situations.

Heatley for hossa after heatley car crash.
Heatley for michalek and company after he slept with spezza wife and daddy cried for trade.
Weber for subban after in fighting with team mates and coaches on subban part.
Carter deals are my favorites as he was moved after sleeping with Richard's wife in philly then acquired by kings who already had Richard's as well for Johnson who was in middle of money issues.

And then the closest one to Karlsson situation is yashin one. only difference is yashin was being greedy while now the team just being cheap. and the return for yashin was a decent roster player, a blue chip prospect zdeno chara, and what would become the number 2 pick in that years draft in jason spezza.

Yashin was known to be 100% gone and still pulled that kind of return while Karlsson is still undecided but want to remain a sen and is a better player in a more valuable position. so who's to say he can't pull a full value return of more than what yashin got them? Its definitely not out of the question just like a trash trade isn't out of the question I mean we are talking about doron here after all, it could go either way, I'm just saying after all the trash trades he's done he's going to want to do this one right if he wants to save face in Ottawa and get back on good terms with the fan base.

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08 Sep 2018 16:00:26
And biased him I actually did respond to Seguin comment it just wasn't approved I guess I don't know. but it was stated about a month and a half ago by Seguin himself that he has no intention of re upping in dallas, that he wants to go to a Canadian hockey market or back to the Bruins. tsn, NHL, sportsfeed, ESPN, etc had all reported it. if you actually followed reality instead of your own little fantasy world here you'd know that already!

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08 Sep 2018 15:55:26
Ctc55 your comment I can actually respect. I'm not saying there's not a chance that the Karlsson possible trade could be messed up bad as with that bum Dorian in charge there's always a slight chance, just look at Hoffman deal. but givin people are already calling for him to be fired for recent deals like overpayment on duchene, hoffman deal itself, burrows trade, and even taking back gaborik in phaneuf trade and still eating contract off phaneuf when he shouldn't have needed to. with him anything is possible but one would thing he should be under the gun and held accountable for what they get and thus should know enough to hold out for top dollar.

One part I didn't agree with however is the part where you said superstars don't get much in return usually. yashin, heatley, hossa, Fisher, vermette, brassard, rundblad, and elliot were all Sens trades which turned out pretty good for Ottawa. and Nashville getting subban for Weber, or kings getting Carter for Johnson, not to mention the return Colorado got for duchene, and Tampa trading drouin for sergachev. all of those off top of my head are pretty decent trades both ways not just one sided based on what each team was getting at time of trades.

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07 Sep 2018 18:21:59
Biasedjim that's exactly right Hoffman and his drama are "gone", former assistant FM is also "gone", all 3 stars have gone on record saying their number 1 priority is to resign with Ottawa, Anderson even recanted his trade demands saying the drama is gone and so long as it stays gone he's happy to stay as well. you're making problems where there is none and that 1st will be a playoff bubble pick at best not a lottery one.

And slapper I want wrong about Hoffman, Dorian just took a ridiculous trade as soon as he got a chance to get rid of him instead of waiting it out and getting true value like he should have done. and that package might get duchene but not Karlsson. Hughes and a 1st yo start is a must to start and then some of significant value not just a throwaway that will never crack NHL


And vbbvbb I know his age Duffus I'm making a point that has to do with his age bracket and level of play. he's just reaching his prom with many years to go and is already too 3 player and 1 defenseman in the world. if any players league wide could ever get a massive return he's one of them! Even when his prime years are over hell still be better than 75% of the players in the league. who wouldn't want a player like that on their team?

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07 Sep 2018 00:30:18
And I'm curious as to what kind've trash you think dallas or Columbus can get for Seguin or panarin.

I bet the posts on those 2 will be better than the ones for Karlsson and duchene.

And obviously that's a joke too because if they get more respect from you guys that's pathetic considering both have gone on record already saying they want out of their respective cities with 1 year left on contract while Karlsson and duchene habs both gone on record along with stone saying Ottawa resign is their top priority. big difference guys.

And duchene did not go down in skill since trade for the record he took a little longer than expected to learn the new system and develop a chemistry which is something that does happen occassionally but he did kick it up a notch at end of year when it counted even though I wish he hadn't at that point.

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