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04 Aug 2018 18:26:33
Ottawa: Karlsson, Ryan, Smith
Vegas: 1st, Brannstrom, Legace and Theodore

Ottawa: Pageau
Montreal: Peca + 3rd 2019

Ottawa: Anderson + 3rd 2020
San Jose: Dell

are any of these close? what would you add or change?

PKane88

1.) 04 Aug 2018 19:39:19
Karlsson trade I wouldn't touch with Ryan contract.


2.) 05 Aug 2018 06:28:31
If Vegas is taking on both ryan and smith, ottawa would be lucky to get a first plus, no way they would get theodore.


 

 

02 Aug 2018 13:42:41
With Mark Stone reportedly asking 9M in arbitration, I don't see Melnyk wanting to pay him that much. if they don't agree on a fair deal do you see Melnyk saying to trade stone for assets rather than paying the man?

Ottawa: Stone
Edmonton: Jones + 1st?

PKane88

1.) 02 Aug 2018 14:39:38
Not even close Stone might have more value then Karlsson sense he is a RFA.


2.) 02 Aug 2018 15:26:11
Stone is worth waaay more than a second pairing D and a very late first


3.) 02 Aug 2018 16:16:20
Stone is worth far more than that. But with Ottawa’s lack of leverage and track record lately I don’t know if they get proper value for anyone anymore. I still think teams would pay more than this though.


4.) 02 Aug 2018 17:14:15
At least 10other teams would offer more than a B Prospect and an1st for a 60+ point Defensive winger.


5.) 02 Aug 2018 19:57:46
Players always ask for a lot more than they actually want. The team is offering $5.5M I believe. He probably realistically wants and is worth around $7.5M. So he's asking for $9M. He will probably and should get between. $7-8M.


6.) 02 Aug 2018 20:44:36
Team is $5 mill I believe. Sens also almost $3 mill apart on Ceci. Long term deal for stone in the $7-7.5 range is probably what he wants but of Sens don’t do it, he has nothing to lose a year away from UFA.


7.) 02 Aug 2018 20:57:57
I wouldn’t even pay Ceci 3 million let alone be 3 million apart jeez.


8.) 02 Aug 2018 21:11:56
If league agrees more with the team and awards him $5-6 mill, then i think it’s all but guaranteed he will feel ripped off by ownership/ management and be gone at the first chance he gets. If they award him $7+ I think he could still then negotiate a long deal after with them.


9.) 02 Aug 2018 22:44:48
Jim, league has nothing to do with the amount of money stone gets.


10.) 03 Aug 2018 00:00:33
I meant arbitration. Not league. It’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.


11.) 03 Aug 2018 00:05:53
Lol. I legit LOLed when I read what Cici was asking for the other day.


12.) 03 Aug 2018 00:07:38
Jim you should know the league has nothing to do with the contract negotiations between player/ agent and GM/ Owner. Come on man. If they don't agree and want to go to arbritration that's third party, Still nothing to do with the NHL league I believe.


13.) 03 Aug 2018 04:56:26
You'd ask for the moon if you had to play for that organization right now too.


14.) 03 Aug 2018 12:54:32
Yupp, I corrected by saying arbitrator and do you think these private arbitrators work for free?! Lol they are contracted by the league. I own a construction company, when I’m done a job I contract a company to do a road sweep. They’re not MY employee, but I still technically hired them for that job. So yes, as I said, it’s a private arbitrator hired by the league.


15.) 03 Aug 2018 14:38:53
They aren't NHL employees tho as you kinda suggested. They are third party. Meaning they don't work directly for the league. they just come in with no bias either way and work things out. 🍻🍻.


16.) 03 Aug 2018 16:23:31
I agree. I said league by mistake and then corrected it to arbitrator lol

You said it has “nothing to do with NHL League”. So I said they are hired by the league but are private arbitrators. Didn’t you just use the quote “read to understand, don’t read to respond”?! Lol Jesus.


17.) 03 Aug 2018 16:34:53
And I specifically said ‘not employee’ in my analogy lol slow news day I guess.


18.) 03 Aug 2018 17:26:24
Anyone feel if the contracts keep rising like this we are heading for another lockout? Or if the cap continues to rise all will be good between owner and player? Stone's great, don't get me wrong, I really like him, but just feels like a few years ago he'd be more in the 5 mil range rather than the 7.3 he just signed.


19.) 03 Aug 2018 18:50:03
@musing, you’re right. They seem like they’re climbing but the bar is always set at the top. So a few years ago when Crosby, Malkin and ovie were the best in the world and making 8.7-9.5 guys like him were $5 mill range. But when mcdavid gets 12.5 as the best now (deserved) and that next tier is getting 10-11 (Doughty, toews, kane, kopitar, Tavares, Eichel, matthews soon) then these types of guys are $7+ mill for sure.


 

 

21 Jun 2018 21:48:33
ottawa: anderson + pittsburgh 1st
calgary: Bennett + parsons

ottawa: Karlsson + ryan + 2nd 2020
vegas: glass + 2019 1st + legace + garrison + brannstrom

Ottawa: stone
buffalo: reinhardt + 1st?

any of these close? who adds? what would you change?

PKane88

1.) 21 Jun 2018 22:42:57
I really hope that’s not 1st as in 1st overall.


2.) 21 Jun 2018 22:50:42
No from Calgary, Ottawa, Buffalo.


3.) 21 Jun 2018 23:38:00
Reinhart and dahlin for stone? Did I read this correctly?


4.) 22 Jun 2018 01:45:03
No from Ottawa

Not a chance Ottawa does the Vegas deal or even thinks about it

Can't see buffalo doing last 1.


 

 

20 Jun 2018 02:56:20
senators acquire: boedker, bergman, 6th
san jose acquire: donaghey, 5th, 2nd, 4th, 5th
florida aqcuire: hoffman

who won the deal overall? thoughts? (i know it wasn't a 3 way deal, but that was the final result of the deal.

PKane88

1.) 20 Jun 2018 03:17:06
Not Rambo.


2.) 20 Jun 2018 03:23:21
not sens -. -.


3.) 20 Jun 2018 03:25:25
SAN Jose. They are setting up to go afterTavares. Isles better get it done soon.


4.) 20 Jun 2018 03:53:37
Florida wins, San Jose 2nd, every other team that wasn't apart of the trade third, than Ottawa.


5.) 20 Jun 2018 04:42:13
I really am dying to hear what Rambo has to say. He was so sure we were all nut jobs and were way off on Hoffman’s value. Lol.


6.) 20 Jun 2018 04:56:58
Rambo commented on a rumour on the last page. Saying Duchene is worth more than the 3rd overall but is untouchable unless tavares is going to Ottawa lol because he would leave NYI to go to Ottawa, right? Haha so he’s still alive and online, just not responding to Hoffman items.


7.) 20 Jun 2018 07:32:11
i don't understand why people say unbelievable to confirmed trades.


8.) 20 Jun 2018 14:13:58
He's still around jim he's sneaking around very Rambo like. Soon when we least expect it he will strike and blow us all away lol.


9.) 20 Jun 2018 15:31:13
Lol yeah. I just like after he was guaranteeing hoffman was worth a top 10 pick+ (Way off! ) he is now telling us how much Duchene is worth like his evaluation is gospel. Hoffman got 20-30% of what he said he would, and we are supposed to think he’s right on anyone else’s value? Haha.


10.) 23 Jun 2018 18:59:34
Wilson and San Jose won. Got all those picks while ridding themselves of a $4M contract.
Florida won next.
Ottawa lost the deal.


 

 

01 Mar 2018 18:44:59
chicago: seabrook (25% retained) + 2020 2nd
montreal: mete.

PKane88

1.) 01 Mar 2018 18:49:19
Helll noooo.


2.) 01 Mar 2018 18:50:43
Seadbrook is a dump even at 50% keep him no one wants him.


3.) 01 Mar 2018 18:51:19
He has been scratched this season.


4.) 01 Mar 2018 18:53:44
Pacioretty has had more points than saad every single season since saad has been in the nhl and also more goals.


5.) 01 Mar 2018 19:35:16
enjoy him till he's 40 with that cap hit.


6.) 01 Mar 2018 20:01:07
Hahahaha Mete is untouchable
And even if he is. its going to be for an exceptional offer, not an aging Dmen with one of the worst conctract.


7.) 01 Mar 2018 21:10:41
How does this have 4 believable votes?
There is no way Habs should do this.


8.) 01 Mar 2018 21:43:52
Cuz some people are delusional @Thunder Turkey like PKane88.


9.) 01 Mar 2018 21:53:51
Terrible for habs obviously, but how does patches outscoring saad have anything to do with mete for seabrook? Lol.


10.) 02 Mar 2018 02:58:52
sorry unbiased jim meant to write it on the one below when pkane88 said that saad>pacioretty.


11.) 02 Mar 2018 04:13:19
Saw that after.


12.) 02 Mar 2018 22:12:42
I agree that this is a terrible proposal for the habs, they already have a dump in weber until he's 40. and is mete really an untouchable? I mean, they just traded sergachev less than a year ago. montreal has NO untouchables and rightfully so.


 

 

 

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12 Sep 2018 09:20:55
what i was saying was from a jets point of view i would do it, from arizona point of view i'd want something extra for taking on the extra salary.

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11 Sep 2018 14:23:41
i don't like that vegas gave up suzuki in the deal, i liked him as a prospect but for a player of caliber of patches you need to give up a big piece, so i understand. it fit bot team's needs and montreal could be dangerous down the middle in a few years once their center prospects develop. good trade for both teams.

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11 Sep 2018 14:22:06
I personally would do this trade, it would be hard for me to let Dano go as he is still a fairly young piece with some potential though. as joe said it would make jets worse this year and they only need the cap next year if they did a trade. Island also made a valid point of crouse and dauphin potentially not being able to make the team with other players fighting for spots.
I do like your explanations for why each sides to this, but maybe add a prospect or pick from jets as arizona is taking on all the extra salary?

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31 Aug 2018 23:27:37
looks fair to me.

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31 Aug 2018 23:26:48
Rangers are rebuilding, why would they do this?

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