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01 Sep 2016 06:37:50
CGY: Ladislav Smid, Dennis Wideman, Deryk Engelland, Matt Stajan, Lance Bouma, Sam Bennett
ARI: 1st round pick

CGY dumps 5 bad contracts and are in cap heaven to add major needed upgrades to a playoff run.

StammerTHEhammer

1.) 01 Sep 2016 07:32:39
Lol okay man.


2.) 01 Sep 2016 08:09:43
I get the thought behind it and value might not be terribly off considering some recent trades but no way that would ever happen. Lol.


3.) 01 Sep 2016 12:26:22
I'd rather keep those guys because half of them are gone after this year and Bennett is not going anywhere.


4.) 01 Sep 2016 14:07:56
They have a reputation for taking bad contracts, but those aren't all guys that are happy to walk away from the game. They need to actually pay those players cash, not just cap hit, and have a spot for them to play. Adding Bennett to domi, Strome, crouse, Dvorak, Keller, etc etc is useless when your roster spots are filled with calgarys garbage.


5.) 01 Sep 2016 15:25:54
Next Calgary playoff run ETA 2021 so these "bad" contracts will be long gone before that happens.

Calgary needs it's 1st rounder to attain 3 more top 6 forwards to compete for a playoff position, and the 1st rounder in 2017 will have very high draft lotto odds.

Not a good plan for Calgary.


6.) 01 Sep 2016 16:06:46
Doubt Calgary would even trade Bennett for a first right now. He is going to be a big part of Calgary's future.


 

 

31 Aug 2016 23:47:31
CGY: D Hamilton, F Hamilton, Dennis Wideman
TOR: Jake Gardiner, Roman Polak, Leo Komarov, Kasperi Kapanen.

StammerTHEhammer

1.) 01 Sep 2016 01:28:31
Doubt Calgary trades D. Hamilton unless they get another player of his caliber or a very promising prospect and a pick.


2.) 01 Sep 2016 01:32:44
For the leafs to get Hamilton we would need to start with marner/ Nylander and build from there.


3.) 01 Sep 2016 02:46:27
Your joking right.


4.) 01 Sep 2016 04:31:19
Leafs add Nylander.


5.) 01 Sep 2016 05:53:37
Again, not a good offer at all if you want Dougie.


6.) 01 Sep 2016 15:53:21
That's a lot of cap going to Toronto and not much going out.

Better get someone from Toronto with some cap to make this a little more realistic.

Lupul, JVR, Kadri perhaps?

Per yesterday Polak is a swear word to be involved with Dudgie, so scratch him and put in Lupul, scratch Komorov and add in JVR. That should help balance out the Salary in = Salary out thing.

Mind you. Toronto HAS fleeced Calgary in the past for a Dman. history could repeat itself?


 

 

30 Aug 2016 11:43:10
Stamkos to leafs for Marner, Kapanen, Komarov, Kadri

Or

Stamkos, Stralman to Colorado for Barrie, Duchene, 2nd.

StammerTHEhammer

1.) 30 Aug 2016 12:22:45
If the Leafs wanted Stamkos, it'd be Matthews + to start value wise.


2.) 30 Aug 2016 12:46:53
Def no to the second one i don't think its all that close. First doesn't help either team.


3.) 30 Aug 2016 15:16:05
I would think that Stamkos would have a no trade clause in his contract, so he would veto any trade to the leafs. If he wanted to play for the leafs he would have signed with them as a free agent. He would have gotten much more money from Tor than he signed for when he was a ufa. He likes TB and wants to play for a team that has a shot for the cup now, not in 5 or 6 years.


4.) 30 Aug 2016 15:25:43
redrov Ya just a touch more.

Tampa
Stamkos 8.5 M

Leafs

Matthews .925
Marner .894
Nylander .894
Reilly 5.0
Kapanen .863
8.576.


5.) 30 Aug 2016 15:44:37
K99 your very biased and know very little about hockey. How do you believe Mathews=Stamkos. Mathews is pretty much a 18 year old version of Stamkos but yet Stamkos is worth a player that gets comared to Anze Kopitar/ John Tavares (Hockey's Future is my professional Sorce) a Patrick Kane Comparison forward who will probably cap at some where around how good Johnny Hockey is IMO in his prime, a top 2 dman in Rielly who explodes in offensive potential, A one dimensional but an offensive Juggernaut I Nylander who is already a top 6 forward and is a Calder trophy candidate. Kappenen won't wow you but he is still a good prospect. No single player in the NHL
could get this Packege if anyone disagrees with me please state why. Also K99 don't even bother to reply unless you come back with fact or testimonials from scouts because you are unbelievably biased towards your team and hate on the leafs.

In Pure value Mathew>Stamkos because of age but to people like Drais I know Tampa would not move him for Mathews because there a win now team.


6.) 30 Aug 2016 16:52:10
stupid post, leafs would never do that. Stmakos is amazing yes but why would give up so much for a guy whos injury prone and most players as they get old digress not improve. He's already reached his peak.


7.) 30 Aug 2016 16:54:51
VB Beauty you made some good points but you cannot say a prospect that hasn't played an NHL game yet is worth more than a proven franchise player in his prime. One day Matthews might be as good as him maybe even surpass him but then again he could also be a bust. No GM would trade Stamkos straight up for Matthews. He just hasn't proven himself yet.


8.) 30 Aug 2016 18:51:14
VB Oh please. spare us your see the world in Blue n White goggles.

There was No biasing in choosing the players in the trade. The Salary dollars are equal in this trade as shown. Add them up yourself if you don't believe it? This is what I'd be asking for if I was Yzerman.

I applaud your sense of hope and enthusiasm over the roster you are stockpiling. I am sure the media has brainwashed you into thinking the young prospects are more than what they really are. After all Leaf Media would NEVER over rate a player now would they? lol
I am sorry, I think your media has somewhat brain washed you into believing these kids are more than what they really are. Just because the media wants to create hope and hype in T. O. Doesn't make the players coming up the 2nd coming of Gretzky / Crosby / Lemieux as you are indicating.

Realistically speaking I think:
Matthews is somewhere between Daigle to maybe a little less than a Nate McKinnon at best. Dud to first line player but no where near superstar / franchise player status.

Reilly is a #3 Dman . (Currently the best one the leafs have so #1 on the leafs team only) Leafs biased media has been tooting this kid's horn for way too long because . again. The Toronto media NEVER over rates a player . lol

Nylander is too small and is already concussion prone. Very doubtful the little guy will be in Calder consideration as he'll be out of the lineup with concussion symptoms for a significant amount of games again with the first solid hit that he takes. I would anticipate a short career for him.

Marner is a small player and has yet to play against real men. Might turn out to be a Kane/ Little Johnny. might be a professional AHL player with a lot of hype like Robbie Schremp / Linus Omark? No one knows for sure.

On the flip side. Will Stamko's ever be as effective as he was before the blood clot issue?

All the players except Reilly are unproven in the NHL and you and your Leaf biased sources have 0 merit on their abilities and career status until the players play and prove something.
In the end. If you want a superstar. You have to pay.
Sure you can wish all you want to unload the garbage to attain a franchise player, but realistically using salary dollar per salary dollar. this is what it's going to cost to get a franchise player in his prime.

If you think the price is too high. By all means keep your handful of magic beans that may or may not bloom into something someday. You and your amusing biased media sources appraisal of un proven players are talking to the hand as far as I'm concerned if I'm sitting in Yzerman's chair!


9.) 30 Aug 2016 19:17:03
VB Beauty don't call anyone out. You're still far and beyond one of the worst on this sites.


10.) 30 Aug 2016 21:12:18
Matthews isn't an 18 year old Stamkos they are very different players. You don't trade a proven franchise player for a prospect whose never played a game. that's ridculous. Matthews likely ends up a top line player but no telling if he's franchise or not yet. Obviously package k99 suggested is too much but you add to Matthews for Stamkos value wise assuming Stamkos would even waive which he probably wouldnt.


11.) 30 Aug 2016 22:05:11
K99 did you not think about how they will all be getting paid huge contracts in the next 3 years? My god man. I can't believe you legit included money. That comment made me throw up a bit. Leafs would be even more horrendous if they traded away their top 3 prospects and their best dman.


12.) 30 Aug 2016 22:06:10
Id be shocked if Matthews ever produced over a point per game in the NHL, no where near McDavid, Crosby, Kane talent. Every analyst agrees he wouldve went 3rd overall in 2015 if he wouldve been born couple days earlier. Franchise centerman yes, but don't overvalue a guy who hasn't played a single game in the NHL.


 

 

25 Aug 2016 20:13:40
TOR: Frank Corrado, Jake Gardiner, Matt Hunwich, William Nylander
EDM: Brandon Davidson, Jordan Eberle, Mark Fayne.

StammerTHEhammer

1.) 25 Aug 2016 21:11:29
Terrible for leafs.

Nylander > Eberle
Gardiner > Davidson
Corrado > Fayne

So what's the incentive for them?


2.) 25 Aug 2016 21:41:18
what a joke, leafs pass
Nylander = eberle
Hunnwick > Fayne
Gardiner >> Davidson.


3.) 25 Aug 2016 21:53:25
Wow ok
Nylander > Eberle (factoring age and trade value)
Gardiner >> Davidson
Hunwick and Corrado >> Faye

How about Marner and a 2nd for McDavid?


4.) 25 Aug 2016 21:54:59
This trade seems fair for both sides.


5.) 25 Aug 2016 22:29:17
Gardiner=Davidson I'd say.
Nylander>>Eberle
Corrado, Hunwick > Fayne

Easy pass for leafs hate all you want :)


6.) 25 Aug 2016 22:50:13
Oilers are looking to get bigger and tougher so already Concussion prone Nylander is not desired by the Edmonton organization.

Davidson for Gardiner is a reasonable 1 for 1 trade.

There is no player on the Leafs current roster that could be traded for Eberle.

This trade only benefits Toronto, so a no from the Oilers.


7.) 25 Aug 2016 23:09:27
Haha Gardiner has been the 2nd best defenceman in the league at supresing shots in relative terms to his team behind Marc Giordano yet is only worth Brandon Davidson?

@K99 you say you don't want injury prone players on your team yet you have one of the most fragile players in the league in RNH who you consistently unwarrantedly gloat about being a selke winner and I guess that means you have to dump McDavid and Klefbom because they are injury prone now.

I guess that guy the leafs recently drafted 1st overall isn't worth Eberle then?


8.) 25 Aug 2016 23:10:46
1 concussion don't make u concussion prone.


9.) 25 Aug 2016 23:16:54
K99 no one on the leafs rostet that can get eberle? Ha your funny. Other than McDavid and Draiz there's no oiler that can get Nylander. If you just going to be biased and say things that your going to ultimately regret why both saying it?


10.) 25 Aug 2016 23:51:29
Eberle is the best player in this trade at this time but I could see why are building Toronto would hold onto Nylanders potential instead. Davidson has too small a sample size to say he is better than a top 4 established defenseman. No point putting Fayne in a trade. He passed through waivers.


11.) 26 Aug 2016 00:29:44
Nylander = Eberle (Nylander isn't proven, Eberle is) .
Davidson= Gardiner (Because the year Davidson had and the year that Garidner had)

And then the others are all crap players.


12.) 26 Aug 2016 00:49:04
This is just an easy no from both teams IMO.


13.) 26 Aug 2016 02:48:01
I agree with Charles Espicecally on the Gardiner Assesment. Big no from Leafs.


14.) 26 Aug 2016 04:50:20
Lol everyone's saying no from leafs (I agree) but that doesn't help Edmonton at all.


15.) 26 Aug 2016 04:51:48
Holy WOW lots of Leafs biased on this post. Good laugh.


16.) 26 Aug 2016 05:12:03
K99 is just a troll. Reading his posts he will tell you that RNH can get you Any player in the league 1 for 1 except ovi and Crosby. No one here pumps their home teams tires like this guy.


17.) 26 Aug 2016 08:50:32
Lol Davidson easily most overrated player from Oilers now.


18.) 26 Aug 2016 14:05:42
Are you kidding K99

Nylander is one of the top-3 prospects in the game.


19.) 26 Aug 2016 14:30:42
JF are you kidding? Top 3 prospects in the game? Its debatable he's the 3rd prospect on the leafs. Matthews Laine Puljujarvi are all easily better prospects and that's just looking at last years top 4 picks. Give me a break.


20.) 26 Aug 2016 15:37:31
Dear Leaf fans.
It really makes me laugh that you think Nylander is even worthy of playing in the NHL let alone comparing him to a clutch deadly scoring machine first liner like Eberle .
Only a Leafs fan and their merry band of biased media would call him a top 3 prospect.
Unproven already concussion prone Nylander has No value on the PRO market currently unless it's unproven small minor league forward for unproven small minor league forward that has had injury problems. Fair trade would be Nylander for Tyler Benson + 5th

And I'm sorry, I stand by my statement. There isn't a player on the Leafs roster I'd trade Eberle for.

All joking aside. the Leafs need to develop the players and come back to the trade table when they've established themselves as a worthy NHL player.

*lol* Nylander for Eberle / Leaf fans thinking Nylander can even hold Eberle's jock let alone = or > comments. Too funny. Thanks guys. That laugh made my day. :)


21.) 26 Aug 2016 15:59:34
Voted top 3 by hockey news.

One concussion doesn't make you concussion prone.


22.) 26 Aug 2016 17:19:28
Using The Hockey News for any kind of analysis or ranking really tells me everything I needed to know haha. Let me guess Matthews and Marner rounded out the top 3?


23.) 27 Aug 2016 06:47:48
Davidson is better then Gardner I don't know what you guys are talking about.


24.) 29 Aug 2016 04:45:26
Tsn top NHL affiliated prospects list had nylander as #1 by Craig button ( very respected with draft picks and evaluation of potential) . I know new players have been drafted since, but I don't think 45 points in 38 ahl games, 13 points in his first 20 NHL games and then 11 points in 14 playoff games in he A is a bad season that would hurt him.


 

 

24 Aug 2016 01:53:58
NYI: Travis Hamonic, Ryan Strome
EDM: Jordan Eberle, Darnell Nurse

Edmonton protects Klefbom, Larsson, Hamonic

Milan Lucic-Connor McDavid-Ryan Strome.

StammerTHEhammer

1.) 24 Aug 2016 04:43:54
That's a tough one, if this happened after the expansion it would make it easier to decide. I don't see Strome being better than Eberle in the future (my opinion) and it's hard to compare Hamonic now when he's 5 or whatever years older than Nurse. Hamonic is obviously better now, but we don't know how Nurse will turn out when he's that age, and by the expectations on him he should be better. Oilers have high hopes for him. I don't know.


2.) 24 Aug 2016 05:37:23
Oil have to protect Sekera.


3.) 24 Aug 2016 06:26:49
The next defeseman Edmonton goes after needs to be offensive minded, think Dumba, Ceci, Stone, Hamilton, Trouba, etc. they've got 5 top 6 d-men that have very limited offensive skills with Sekera rn being the best offensively and u can't have that. So while Travis is a great number 2/ 3 d-man he won't help the club on the PP or with scoring in general.


4.) 24 Aug 2016 12:17:50
Ceci just resigned for two years in Ottawa, he's not going anywhere.


5.) 24 Aug 2016 16:33:49
That is a very fair trade. Both teams win and improve their teams. Hard to say if either team does this tough.


6.) 24 Aug 2016 18:39:53
Sekera is automatically protected with his NTC so Oilers lose Hamonic, Klefbom, or Larson at the draft for nothing. No deal.

Strome is an RFA and has not been retained by NYI yet. He is also a center which Edmonton has too many of already. Strome was in the dog house and didn't do very well last year points wise. Probably why he's unsigned currently.


 

 

 

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