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19 Feb 2018 00:29:40
Minor Tinkering Ideas:

Niklas Jensen and Luke Glendening and Johan Franzen to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Matt Martin and Josh Leivo and Roman Polak and a 2019 2nd Round Draft Pick.

if that doesn't work out.

Oscar Lindberg to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Eric Fehr and a 2019 3rd Round Draft Pick.

- Jensen was touted well last year but has struggled this year. He could use a good team like Toronto to get back on the right track. And, he's a RHD. Glendening is rumored to be going to Toronto for some time, and his cap is a bit, but its an upgrade on 4C for the next few years. Toronto takes on Franzen and stuffs him on LTIR, basically saving Detroit 4 million off of their own books.
- Detroit takes back Matt Martin at full as a compliment to Toronto taking Glendening at full, and Franzen at full (despite Franzen being thrown on LTIR) . Detroit also receives a decent forward who could be a top 9 guy, and if Detroit decides to sell off big-time, then he could be a guy who could step up into a bigger role. And they get a 2nd.

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The Vegas trade simply provides insurance for the playoffs. Lindberg isn't doing very well in Vegas (9 points in 55 games), and Vegas would gladly take a 3rd for him. They have tons of guys in the bottom 6 anyway.

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1.) 19 Feb 2018 02:56:45
Franzan is ocerpaid and has term. That would be a bloody nightmare of a trade. Jensen is a winger that starts 70of his shifts in th offensive zone. I like Glendening. he is a strong penalty killer and plays 3min a nigth on the pk.

Oscar lindberg can stay in vegas.


2.) 19 Feb 2018 07:41:47
Franzen gets thrown on LTIR and i think insurance covers the money. I just don't see why Detroit would trade him because they obviously won't get value and since he doesn't impact them at all not worth paying to move.


3.) 19 Feb 2018 08:56:25
@howling stone. He said Niklas Jensen who is a winger from Denmark Who I believe is back playing in Europe. But who he meant was Nick Jensen, an American defensman playing for the red wings.


4.) 19 Feb 2018 12:13:20
@UBJ

Yeah, meant Nick Jensen. My bad.


5.) 20 Feb 2018 15:58:29
I think jbs hits the nail on the head, franzen on LTIR isn't costing the wings a dime so right away its like what's the point?


 

 

17 Feb 2018 17:55:44
Since Glendening has been reported as a Leafs target:

Matt Martin and a 4th Round Pick to the Detroit Red Wings in exchange for Luke Glendening.

Glendening have appx. the same total salary remaining, except Martin makes 700k more, while Glendening has 1 more year. Glendening is a better player than Martin, so Toronto adds the fourth. However, Detroit dirches the extra year of the contract, which is good. Glendening becomes Torontos 4C for the next four ish years, and we don't have to worry about fillinv the void again.

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09 Feb 2018 11:13:31
Idea:

2018 1st Round Draft Pick + Josh Leivo + Nikita Soshnikov + Roman Polak to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Niklas Hjalmarsson + Brad Richardson.

- Leivo will get a chance to play in Zona 100%. He could possibly be a top line/ second liner on a bad team, however, if he looks good, he could be a pretty good add-in. I've always rooted for him as a Leaf fan, and in the right oppurtunity, I thi k he's a 30+ point man. Sosh is a wild card, but is most likely going to end up as a gritty 10 point guy. Lol.

- Hjalmarsson fits into everything Toronto needs. Tough, stay at home blueliner with cup experience. he's the perfect blueliner. Richardson hasn't done much, and with his contract, he's maybe worth a 4th at the deadline. However, he's an upgrade on Dominic Moore imo.

And honestly, if Patches' value is a 1st + a prospect + a roster body, I would think Hjalmarsson's would be less. And imo, this is what it would take.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Brad Richardson - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Jake Gardiner
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Morgan Rielly
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

This actually looks like a really, really well balanced team. And Hjalmarsson is signed on for 2018/ 19 as well.

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1.) 09 Feb 2018 14:13:38
Not too bad. I’m just reluctant to give up a first round pick in a deal for a defenseman unless it’s a 27 minute+, do everything horse. Not that a first will get that guy, but that we could do a package to get him including prospects and picks. This definitely makes us more prepared for the Bruins and lightning without losing anything but Polak off the current roster which is good. I’m neutral on it which means I must think it’s pretty fair. Just not my ideal fit.


2.) 09 Feb 2018 16:16:37
Be surprised if hjalmarson gets that much, he was pretty much straight across for Connor Murphy, then has not had a good year, plus missed more games this year then the rest of his career combined. Don't think he'd get a first anyway.


 

 

07 Feb 2018 01:48:26
Zemgus Girgensons + Josh Gorges (25% Retained) to the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nikita Soshnikov + Calle Rosen + Dominic Moore + 2017 3rd Round Pick.

Girgensons is playing pretty bad right now. But he has played decent, like, in 2014? Ish? Maybe he can revitalize his career in Toronto? Even if he doesn't, he's a better fourth line centre than Moore right now, and better than Gauthier. And this allows Aaltonen to stay in the AHL for a year after this. And Zemgus could slot into 3C if Bozak leaves. For Buffalo, they have centre depth. Eichel. ROR. Reinhart. Larsson. And Casey Mittelstadt coming up. They can afford to give up Zemgus. As for Gorges, he's basically a slight upgrade over Polak, although not much. Still, I'd rather see Gorges than Polak, cause Babs will play him over Carrick 100%. And for Buffalo, they get a middling pick, two decently young europeans (Sosh can actually become something, Rosen looked decent but he may just be AHL caliber), and a guy they can replace Zemgus with for the time being.

Lineup:
Zach Hyman - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Patrick Marleau - Nazem Kadri - Mitch Marner
James van Riemsdyk - Tyler Bozak - Connor Brown
Leo Komarov - Zemgus Girgensons - Kasperi Kapanen

Ron Hainsey - Morgan Rielly
Jake Gardiner - Josh Gorges
Nikita Zaitsev - Travis Dermott

*If that isn't enough, i'm willing to up the third to a second (the lower of the SJS/ TOR pick) . I'd like Girgensons, cause I feel he's only playing bad cause he's on a bad team.

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1.) 07 Feb 2018 14:03:13
I would be all for this deal as a toronto fan.


2.) 07 Feb 2018 14:25:22
#1 I highly doubt sabres trade Girgensons for that.

#2 josh George’s was already technically traded to Toronto from MTL and said he wouldn’t go. I know a lot has changed with the roster of the leafs since then, but I don’t think it was a decision about winning vs losing because he chose buffalo over here lol I think it was more a personal decision and doubt that has changed.


3.) 07 Feb 2018 15:16:54
@UBJ

True. Maybe his decision changes though, if Torontos the only biter on him at the deadline? Cause he'd probably wanna get out of the hellhole known as Buffalo. Lol. And if it isn't enohgh, maybe bump the third to the second? I can't see Zemgus worth any more than that - he only has 9 points this year anyway.


4.) 07 Feb 2018 16:59:04
Yeah. I don’t think it’s a terrible offer, just think that they might bank on Girgenson bouncing back if those are the type of offers they’re getting for him.


 

 

05 Feb 2018 16:01:49
Not my words, but read from two (possible non-trustworthy) sources on twitter that the Leafs have offers for Tyson Barrie.

One source (rumorbreak) said:
1st + Carrick + Sosh + Johnsson for Barrie.

The other said/
1st + Sosh + Leivo for Barrie.

With rumblings of the Leivo/ Sosh trade requests, I wouldn't be surprised if both are traded, and possibly in a large deal like this. However, from my eyes, this is still underwhelming for Barrie. I would think that the Leafs would have to pony up:

1st + Kapenen + Sosh/ Leivo + Borgman/ CARrick ++

Idk. I mean, on this site Sekera+Maroon for Barrie was apperantly decent, so I wouldn't be shocked. But again. the thought isn't mine, however, i'd be all in for trading for a guy like barrie.

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1.) 05 Feb 2018 16:43:26
Honestly pretty low ball offers for Barrie. Two players who can’t crack the leafs lineup and a later first I personally do not see Colorado biting on that at all but yeah you said you read these somewhere so who knows. But ya can’t see Colorado going for that. However your second trade does look better yes for sure.


2.) 05 Feb 2018 19:44:31
I don't think it's enough, but it isn't because those players can't crack the lineup. Leafs are just log jammed at those positions. On a team like Colorado they would likely be playing. But Barrie being a right handed dman on a decent contract is going to take quite a bit to aquire.


3.) 06 Feb 2018 23:28:57
Do not use Rumor Break as a source.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2018 01:41:17
Oh yeah, and McGinn >> Leivo. Just looked up the stats, lol,

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21 Feb 2018 01:39:56
Yes you are blind lmao.

'Best corsi dman'? he plays sheltered minutes, and he doesn't pass the eye test much better than most 6-7 dmen. he's behind Hanifin, Pesce, Slavvin, Bean, McKewon, Fleury and TVR.

And I said Leivo has the value of a 3rd. i never said he was worth nothing, lol. But he's played minimal games, and considering Sosh only got a 4th (w 57 games played), I can't see Leivo getting more than a 3rd.

And yes, matt martin has no value. 2.5 million for a slow grinder who causes penalties? No thanks for most teams. The isles want him for sentimental purposes i guess, and cause their GM is Garth Snow. Lol.

JVR is not what Carolina needs. First off, if they're trading a dman its for a centre with term. Not a winger. Get it through your head. They already have a streaky scoring winger in Skinner. They don't need a defensively liable RENTAL in JVR. and by god, JVR does not get you Faulk! Faulk has term, is a dman and is a two way dmen. JVR is a good player, no doubt, but he has one year left, is going to command a hefty contract and is going to get a lot of term, and that contract will bite whatever team signs him in the a**, if its longer than 5 years. And look at Faulks deal. 4 million. Dmen like him don't grow on trees. If Carolina is trading Faulk, its for a good centre.

Okay, so let's just say Kruger and Jooris and Martin and Carrick cancel out. Cause Kruger and Martin are bith cap dumps, but Krugers contract is better than Martins, so Carrick>Jooris but that cancels. McGinn and Leivo cancel (both depth guys) . So basically, JVR and a 2nd for Faulk and a 6th. NO FROM CAROLINA.

Dont act smart pinny. you're wrong j admit it.

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20 Feb 2018 20:55:43
Im a Leaf fan. JVR doesn't go for that much, are you insane? Sure that's what the Leafs want for him - they won't get it tho. You think the Rangers are going to get a 1st and a top prospect for Nash? F NO. JVr would get a 1st and a guy like Drew Stafford back, not more. Plus, JVR wo an extension is not at all worth Faulk. Carrick is meh, he won't even crack Carolinas top 6, Leivos a good piece but his max value is like a 3rd, martin is a cap dump no way around it and a second is a second.

So a UFA forward (rental), a 6-7 dman, a cap dump, a 2nd and a guy wortha 3rd is worth a top 2 dman ++? No.

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20 Feb 2018 18:56:45
I mean, just for a second, imagine if this deal went down. Drouin and some pieces would have veen traded for EK. Holy.

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20 Feb 2018 18:40:05
Stop adding to the original post. The original post was bad. Stop.

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