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02 Jan 2018 20:29:59
Tor: Gudbranson

Van: Rychel and 2nd rounder

Gudbranson has been linked to the leafs and although he’s not the stud D we really want, he would be a help at a pretty reasonable cost. He was traded for McCann last time and I find it hard to believe his value isn’t quite a bit lower since the trade.

Canucks get a 2nd round pick to get another young player for their build and Rychel, although has very little value on his own, could be a bit of a surprise as a ‘throw in bonus’ With some playing time, he may become an NHLer in some capacity but probably never live up to his first round hype.

Although the leafs keep saying they like the Dmen they have, with one injury to a top 4.

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1.) 02 Jan 2018 20:36:27
I do like this. I'd prefer to keep Rychel and trade away like Piccinich and a5th or sumtin. Idk, i just wanna keep the Marlies stacked, lol. I wouldn't be suprised if this went thriught though.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 20:39:06
Cont’d. with one injury to a top 4 like zaitsev and we really see how thin it is back there. A guy like Gudbranson could just be a stabilizing guy as a cheap rental and could be extended for a cpl years if he seems to fit in. Could also add in another pick if needed, maybe a 4th rounder as an extra incentive to get it done.


3.) 02 Jan 2018 20:49:31
I was looking to see similar trades that went through in the last year or two at this time for rental D in the 3-6 range. 2 came to mind. Leafs traded Polak and spaling to SJ for 2 2nds but had to take Torres contract back for the remainder of the season. And last year Brendan smith was sent from the wings to rangers for a 2nd and a 3rd. I feel like smith has more offense to offer, Gudbranson might be a little more old school and tougher, but don’t feel like there’s a massive gap between them. A 2nd and a half decent prospect and maybe a 4th or 5th I think could do it.


4.) 02 Jan 2018 21:26:53
@UBJ

Idk if the Polak deal is the best comparasion cause in full it was:

Reimer, Polak, Spaling and Morin for Smith, Stalock, Torres, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd.

Cause realistically Polak never gets more than a 2nd and a cap dump, and Reimer brings in the other 2nd and 3rd.

I think the above deal works, don't really think the addition of more is needed.


5.) 03 Jan 2018 00:32:49
Well the Reimer deal was a seperate one. You can combine them all of you want, but they weren’t in the same deal. I think Gudbranson is better than Polak, and close to smith, I think that’s where I had his value in this deal.


 

 

13 Dec 2017 14:18:57
If sens are committed to tearing it down, they should have done it 6 weeks ago obviously before the Duchene trade. But if he is available, like it’s been suggested, what about

Edmonton - Hoffman
Ottawa- Yamamoto.

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1.) 13 Dec 2017 15:30:45
I hit send accidentally. Don’t know if 1 for 1 would do it for either team. But I think it gives oilers a real scoring threat on the wing for today, and gives the sens a kid with a ton of potential to add to white and Chabot and brown as their next core. Obviously this only happens if Sens are blowing it up. If they’re serious about trading the core, imagine those 4 prospects, plus what they would get for Karlsson/ Brassard/ Stone etc.


2.) 13 Dec 2017 17:25:05
Good base.

Dont know how the Oil will be able to afford Hoff with Lucic, Russell and Sekeras huge contracts + McD and Drais. Maybe they send some cap in some way back.

Imo though, Oil add to Hoff for Moto. Cause Hoff is a proven player with 50 point years to his name. But definetky not a bad base.


3.) 13 Dec 2017 18:22:39
Yeah, no way Ottawa does this lol. Hoffman is a sniper, probably one of the best shots in the nhl.


4.) 13 Dec 2017 19:22:57
Would love Hoffman on Edmonton but he’s 28 and Yama is 19. No I would not do that one for one age difference is way too much.


5.) 13 Dec 2017 20:59:46
I get the age gap is tough for Edmonton to take, but if oilers want a proven sniper like they have been Apparently looking for, they’re going to have to give someone significantly younger. No one is trading a 25-30 year old top 6 for a similar age or older guy. Defeats the purpose of moving Hoffman or anyone like him. What would oilers want to trade for Hoffman, patches, JVR type players? Maroon, Lucic, strome, Kassian, Russell, Sekera isn’t getting it done. So it’s either good young players that aren’t on the roster now, or some of your better core players which makes no sense. Don’t see them getting a guy that can score 30 goals for them if 1 late first rounder prospect is too steep lol.


6.) 13 Dec 2017 22:30:13
As much as i loved Yamomoto at the draft, i'm not sure we need another RW. and for the price that were giving up (a 27/ 29/ 25 goal scorer) I certainly hope that Kailer has the potential to be a 1st line RW/ C.


7.) 14 Dec 2017 00:06:50
Hoff, that makes sense. I was going to put a small add on oilers side with Yamamoto but then left it to see what people thought. But apparently I should be adding picks with Hoffman to get a late first from the oilers lol everyone else’s top line wingers are worth nothing to Edmonton anyway, so doesn’t matter haha.


 

 

12 Dec 2017 23:38:10
Erik Karlsson confirms that Pierre Dorian requested his No Trade List.

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12 Nov 2017 17:06:13
Leafs: JVR

Vegas: Colin Miller

Why leafs do it: the leafs have obvious forward depth, especially on the wings waiting for a bigger role (kapanen, Leivo, soshnikov) . The chances of them bringing back JVR is very small beyond this year anyway. They can get a 25-26 year old solid RHD with a bomb of a shot for the PP that they haven’t had since maybe Bryan McCabe (phaneufs was a rocket but never hit the net) . They can extend him right away at a reasonable cap hit and have Rielly, Miller, Gardiner, Zaitsev, all between 23 and 27 and all for less than $18 mill.

Why vegas does it: Vegas has D depth that they have tried to move and make room on that crowded blue line. Getting JVR also gives them 3 options in March. They can resign Him to replace James Neal if they trade him, they can trade both for a huge boost to their prospect and draft pick pool or they can trade him for the type of package they were hoping to get for Neal if they wanted to keep Neal now that he’s kind of become the early fave of the organization and thriving in the role.

Not too long ago I was hoping for the moon in a JVR trade but I think it’s time to realize that leafs need a D that can play now, and most teams willing to pay a big price for a UFA scorer are giving picks.

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1.) 12 Nov 2017 17:13:59
Honestly, pretty good. Maybe a 3rd/ 4th from Vegas, but even that may be pushing it.

However, i have a very strange gut feeling that JVR will resign with Toronto. Its not my idea, its just a weird feeling. I heard him say he's willing to take about the same money on a max deal. I don't want i, but I feel that it will happen, like 4.5 x 7 years or sumtin like that.


2.) 12 Nov 2017 17:46:00
I think teams like Edmonton, Carolina, or other teams that need scoring will pay more. I think the leafs want picks and prospects. I know leaf fans think they are going for a cup, I just think that's a bit premature. They are still a year or two away. The leafs have to win a playoff round first! They can probably get a similar defenseman in free agency.


3.) 12 Nov 2017 18:51:27
I think if jvr's demands are within the leafs budget, it would be a good move to resign him. but i agree with vancity if they do trade him it should be for draft picks.


4.) 12 Nov 2017 19:03:12
I would keep JVR in a heart beat if it’s a 4.5 cap hit. Reality is though that guys with less points (which isn’t everything, but it is what we judge a player like him on because he’s not great defensively) are getting 6mill.

Also I could have mentioned that Miller is in the right age range and had over 100 pts in 180ish OHL games for The greyhounds while leafs assistant GM Dubas was running that organization. It’s been reported that they have kept in touch too. I think leafs like this player enough to make the deal.

And VanCity, I’m not saying the leafs are ready to win the cup, I’m just saying they have accumulated a ton of young assets at all positions that they don’t have room for. I think a 25 year old NHL Dman is a good plan over 2 more draft picks to add to the log jam. And getting Colin Miller isn’t saying the work is done and we have to win today lol he’s not a Norris caliber Shea Weber at 32 years old on a huge contract, He’s a just a good improvement on what they have.


5.) 12 Nov 2017 23:09:37
The real log jam would be from adding another middling defenceman to the current roster imo, why not stock the shelves for four years from now? I just think unless its a deal for a doughty/ ekblad caliber RHD, the leafs should just let it be. i like carrick and i wouldn't take borgman out either.


6.) 13 Nov 2017 15:01:40
I get that he’s not a stud Dman but I also think if that guy isn’t available, there’s other ways to do it. Ideally you have a #1, 2,3,4, 5 and 6. That’s tough to do. But if you can have 6 ‘top 4’ defensemen, that’s the best way to be hard to play against without having doughty, Weber, Keith or ekblad etc. Roman Polak was never a top 4 and shown now he’s not a top 6 anymore. Rielly, gardiner, zaitsev, Miller, and then carrick, borgman, dermott, maybe the Russian kid that’s buddies with zaitsev that they’re signing is a top 4 guy right away like zaitsev was. I think that might be the way the leafs have to do it because #1 Dmen aren’t out there. How many have been traded in their prime in the last 10-15 years? Subban ans Weber, but they were traded for each other lol had to have one to get one.


7.) 13 Nov 2017 19:39:31
Makes no sense for either Team.
The Leafs have depth in the AHL and Draft Picks if they choose. Like Mangement said to make a Trade like that you weaken a spot to get better in another. If the Leafs make a Trade for a Top 4 DMan it will be something like. CCarrick, Kapanen, ANielsen and a Draft Pick not JVR.


8.) 15 Nov 2017 01:41:50
Why would you rather trade 4 young pieces that are controllable and can/ will be part of the future for the same thing you can get for one piece that has a very slim chance of being back anyway? Depth is an asset because you have options to fill a spot when A player like JVR leaves, why give that away?


 

 

27 Jul 2017 19:00:44
I know 3-team trades don't happen often but I thought I'd give it a try.

Leafs trade- Bozak, leivo, 1st (lottery protected) and 3rd
Oilers trade- RNH
Devils trade- Severson

Leafs get severson
Oilers get Bozak,
Devils get RNH, Leivo, 3rd

Leafs get a prime age RHD

Oilers get Bozak to replace RNH. He makes 4.2 instead of rnh's 6 mill and his contract expires the day mcdavids deal kicks in. They can try to resign him to a deal that works for both, They can allow him to walk after a playoff run or trade him for assets at the deadline. Also get the first.

Devils get a good centreman that can play anywhere in your top 9. Can play in all situations and with skilled players. They also get josh leivo who has shown flashes of being an nhl caliber sniper with very limited opportunity. And a 3rd round pick

Biggest problem I see is Devils depth on D doesn't really allow them to trade one for a C.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 27 Jul 2017 19:55:29
So Tor traded a first and it magically disappeared?


2.) 27 Jul 2017 20:45:26
Sorry. Oilers got the first. It says it in the explaination. Forgot it on the breakdown.


3.) 27 Jul 2017 20:53:59
How is that worth it for the leafs

Also i think the 1st was supposed to go to the oilers lol.


4.) 27 Jul 2017 21:08:43
If they just trade RNH for Bozak oh my gaawd.


5.) 27 Jul 2017 22:27:26
Lol. No.


6.) 28 Jul 2017 00:53:47
It's Bozak and a first.


7.) 28 Jul 2017 02:50:19
Devs lose big time. Their forwards are set, they need defemss now. Severson is their only saving grace.


8.) 28 Jul 2017 20:07:35
Oilers and Devils are trading good quality but leafs are just trading quantity. Typical lol.


9.) 28 Jul 2017 20:13:14
Good reasoning for your trades. Toronto seems to come out on the short end but is it for some salary relief?


10.) 29 Jul 2017 17:17:18
Hotguybabes. Leafs are getting one good, not great, defenseman and trading a good, not great, NHL centerman, a kid with upside, 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick. You make it sound like I have them getting doughty for 5 Marlies that will never play in the NHL.


11.) 01 Aug 2017 13:17:09
No way T. O does this
IF Bozak asks for a raise it will still be less than RNH contract.
He is the Leafs best faceoff man and gets more points than RNH
RNH is overpaid and overrated and not worth Leivo and a 1st.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2018 17:13:54
I hit ‘agree’ for pinball, but only to agree with hi. Calling himself blind lol.

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21 Feb 2018 16:21:55
I don’t let him get to me, I was just joking. Smiling the whole time, I’m okay lol @Yup spent 3 straight days trolling BS over habs fans a cpl weeks ago, Yet oilers fans per capita have been the worst on here for a while.
Every post is garbage to you guys unless oilers are bending over the opposition. I have no problem saying when leafs are ripping off the other team in someone’s proposal. But if you guys are losing a trade by an inch, it’s delusional and if you’re winning it by a mile, it’s pretty fair haha.

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21 Feb 2018 14:31:53
Not a chance in HELL

Connor Carrick had 18 pts (7g 11a) in 15 playoff games in the AHL playoffs for the marlies 2 years ago, he’s a future Norris trophy winner who gets better when the games get bigger!

Garrett sparks is 24 years old and clearly a future starter in the NhL, his AHL numbers are out of this world (20-8-1 with a 1.78gaa and a .938 sv%. Would the habs have traded 24 year old Carey Price+ for a rental?!

And that 2nd is way better than any other teams 1st rounder because it belongs to my team, so keep dreaming.

Only way Red Wings get carrick is for Larkin +
They want sparks?! Mantha and AA

That’s my best Oilers fan impression, but actually yeah I’ll make that move as a leafs fan. Green is not my ideal fit for our playoff run, but if we can’t get the exact guy, I’d be fine with paying this price to give us whatever better chance.

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21 Feb 2018 13:50:47
@ unsportsmanlike hahaha love it.

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21 Feb 2018 13:47:04
MTL supposed to be a 3rd team in the trade? Or just mixed up MTL and PITT in the first line?

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