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12 Nov 2017 17:06:13
Leafs: JVR

Vegas: Colin Miller

Why leafs do it: the leafs have obvious forward depth, especially on the wings waiting for a bigger role (kapanen, Leivo, soshnikov) . The chances of them bringing back JVR is very small beyond this year anyway. They can get a 25-26 year old solid RHD with a bomb of a shot for the PP that they haven’t had since maybe Bryan McCabe (phaneufs was a rocket but never hit the net) . They can extend him right away at a reasonable cap hit and have Rielly, Miller, Gardiner, Zaitsev, all between 23 and 27 and all for less than $18 mill.

Why vegas does it: Vegas has D depth that they have tried to move and make room on that crowded blue line. Getting JVR also gives them 3 options in March. They can resign Him to replace James Neal if they trade him, they can trade both for a huge boost to their prospect and draft pick pool or they can trade him for the type of package they were hoping to get for Neal if they wanted to keep Neal now that he’s kind of become the early fave of the organization and thriving in the role.

Not too long ago I was hoping for the moon in a JVR trade but I think it’s time to realize that leafs need a D that can play now, and most teams willing to pay a big price for a UFA scorer are giving picks.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 12 Nov 2017 17:13:59
Honestly, pretty good. Maybe a 3rd/ 4th from Vegas, but even that may be pushing it.

However, i have a very strange gut feeling that JVR will resign with Toronto. Its not my idea, its just a weird feeling. I heard him say he's willing to take about the same money on a max deal. I don't want i, but I feel that it will happen, like 4.5 x 7 years or sumtin like that.

2.) 12 Nov 2017 17:46:00
I think teams like Edmonton, Carolina, or other teams that need scoring will pay more. I think the leafs want picks and prospects. I know leaf fans think they are going for a cup, I just think that's a bit premature. They are still a year or two away. The leafs have to win a playoff round first! They can probably get a similar defenseman in free agency.

3.) 12 Nov 2017 18:51:27
I think if jvr's demands are within the leafs budget, it would be a good move to resign him. but i agree with vancity if they do trade him it should be for draft picks.

4.) 12 Nov 2017 19:03:12
I would keep JVR in a heart beat if it’s a 4.5 cap hit. Reality is though that guys with less points (which isn’t everything, but it is what we judge a player like him on because he’s not great defensively) are getting 6mill.

Also I could have mentioned that Miller is in the right age range and had over 100 pts in 180ish OHL games for The greyhounds while leafs assistant GM Dubas was running that organization. It’s been reported that they have kept in touch too. I think leafs like this player enough to make the deal.

And VanCity, I’m not saying the leafs are ready to win the cup, I’m just saying they have accumulated a ton of young assets at all positions that they don’t have room for. I think a 25 year old NHL Dman is a good plan over 2 more draft picks to add to the log jam. And getting Colin Miller isn’t saying the work is done and we have to win today lol he’s not a Norris caliber Shea Weber at 32 years old on a huge contract, He’s a just a good improvement on what they have.

5.) 12 Nov 2017 23:09:37
The real log jam would be from adding another middling defenceman to the current roster imo, why not stock the shelves for four years from now? I just think unless its a deal for a doughty/ ekblad caliber RHD, the leafs should just let it be. i like carrick and i wouldn't take borgman out either.

6.) 13 Nov 2017 15:01:40
I get that he’s not a stud Dman but I also think if that guy isn’t available, there’s other ways to do it. Ideally you have a #1, 2,3,4, 5 and 6. That’s tough to do. But if you can have 6 ‘top 4’ defensemen, that’s the best way to be hard to play against without having doughty, Weber, Keith or ekblad etc. Roman Polak was never a top 4 and shown now he’s not a top 6 anymore. Rielly, gardiner, zaitsev, Miller, and then carrick, borgman, dermott, maybe the Russian kid that’s buddies with zaitsev that they’re signing is a top 4 guy right away like zaitsev was. I think that might be the way the leafs have to do it because #1 Dmen aren’t out there. How many have been traded in their prime in the last 10-15 years? Subban ans Weber, but they were traded for each other lol had to have one to get one.

7.) 13 Nov 2017 19:39:31
Makes no sense for either Team.
The Leafs have depth in the AHL and Draft Picks if they choose. Like Mangement said to make a Trade like that you weaken a spot to get better in another. If the Leafs make a Trade for a Top 4 DMan it will be something like. CCarrick, Kapanen, ANielsen and a Draft Pick not JVR.

8.) 15 Nov 2017 01:41:50
Why would you rather trade 4 young pieces that are controllable and can/ will be part of the future for the same thing you can get for one piece that has a very slim chance of being back anyway? Depth is an asset because you have options to fill a spot when A player like JVR leaves, why give that away?



27 Jul 2017 19:00:44
I know 3-team trades don't happen often but I thought I'd give it a try.

Leafs trade- Bozak, leivo, 1st (lottery protected) and 3rd
Oilers trade- RNH
Devils trade- Severson

Leafs get severson
Oilers get Bozak,
Devils get RNH, Leivo, 3rd

Leafs get a prime age RHD

Oilers get Bozak to replace RNH. He makes 4.2 instead of rnh's 6 mill and his contract expires the day mcdavids deal kicks in. They can try to resign him to a deal that works for both, They can allow him to walk after a playoff run or trade him for assets at the deadline. Also get the first.

Devils get a good centreman that can play anywhere in your top 9. Can play in all situations and with skilled players. They also get josh leivo who has shown flashes of being an nhl caliber sniper with very limited opportunity. And a 3rd round pick

Biggest problem I see is Devils depth on D doesn't really allow them to trade one for a C.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 27 Jul 2017 19:55:29
So Tor traded a first and it magically disappeared?

2.) 27 Jul 2017 20:45:26
Sorry. Oilers got the first. It says it in the explaination. Forgot it on the breakdown.

3.) 27 Jul 2017 20:53:59
How is that worth it for the leafs

Also i think the 1st was supposed to go to the oilers lol.

4.) 27 Jul 2017 21:08:43
If they just trade RNH for Bozak oh my gaawd.

5.) 27 Jul 2017 22:27:26
Lol. No.

6.) 28 Jul 2017 00:53:47
It's Bozak and a first.

7.) 28 Jul 2017 02:50:19
Devs lose big time. Their forwards are set, they need defemss now. Severson is their only saving grace.

8.) 28 Jul 2017 20:07:35
Oilers and Devils are trading good quality but leafs are just trading quantity. Typical lol.

9.) 28 Jul 2017 20:13:14
Good reasoning for your trades. Toronto seems to come out on the short end but is it for some salary relief?

10.) 29 Jul 2017 17:17:18
Hotguybabes. Leafs are getting one good, not great, defenseman and trading a good, not great, NHL centerman, a kid with upside, 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick. You make it sound like I have them getting doughty for 5 Marlies that will never play in the NHL.

11.) 01 Aug 2017 13:17:09
No way T. O does this
IF Bozak asks for a raise it will still be less than RNH contract.
He is the Leafs best faceoff man and gets more points than RNH
RNH is overpaid and overrated and not worth Leivo and a 1st.



29 Jun 2017 19:02:10
Just an option for short term for the leafs going forward. Tyler Bozak is good in his role, but reality is that after this contract he's going to be moving on or taking a pay cut, don't see that happening.

Pitts - Bozak (1 year@ 4.2mill)

Tor - G- Tristan Jarry and 2018 3rd round pick.

Leafs sign joe Thornton 2 years @ 6-6.5 per

Bozak has shown he can play with skilled players (kessel obviously) . With Bonino being a free agent and probably wanting multi year deal, this allows pens not have to commit long term to bonino and allows flexibility on the cap beyond this season. Also Jarry at 21 is obviously stuck behind Murray long term and they drafted filip gustavsson last season as a good goalie prospect. Losing bonino and fleury gives them more than enough cap space

For the leafs it gives them a good goalie prospect which they aren't very deep at. Bibeau and sparks are long shots, kaskisuo looks decent. It would also give hunter another draft pick to work with. If the leafs could then sign joe Thornton it would be a huge boost for the team but especially Matthews. As good of a player, leader and pro Bozak is, Thornton understands and can help Matthews body type, skill set and leadership needs so much more. Cap implications mean nothing to the leafs for those 2 years.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 29 Jun 2017 20:18:04
2018 1st and 3rd for Bozak.

2.) 29 Jun 2017 20:25:50
Not even close for bozak.

3.) 30 Jun 2017 14:18:30
I would agree Bozak is worth more but with a year left and probably not coming back it's a tough one. Also he might be worth More to another team but Penguins came to mind as a good fit. Pens prospect list outside the guys that finished to year with the team (guentzel, Wilson etc) is pretty weak and after trading their first this year for reaves, don't know if they would trade the 2018 too.

4.) 30 Jun 2017 15:36:43
🙈🙈🙈💩. Yikes.



20 Jun 2017 19:32:55
I know offer sheets don't happen often in today's NHL, but leafs are looking for a top 4 RHD. Apparently rumours are suggesting to find one on the trade market (vatanen, dumba, trouba) would take a first and a good prospect.

Colton parayko is a big guy, can play in all situations, can skate very well for his size and is an RFA. He also was Morgan Reilly's partner in the World Cup on the top pair after ekblad was hurt.

Compensation for a contract with an AAV between 5.88 and 7.85 mill is 2018 1st, 2nd and 3rd pick. As a leafs fan I would be far happier to see them part with those 3 picks for parayko than 2017 17th overall and Connor brown for one of those others.

Thinking like a 6 years x 6.75 mill.

Rielly Parayko
Gardiner Zaitsev
Top 4 for just under 20 mill all locked up Between 22 and 26 years old.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 20 Jun 2017 19:53:16
The problem with offer sheets is that no one really wants to overpay a player especially Maple leafs with huge contracts coming up and if u give a fair offer the respective team will match it most likely.

2.) 20 Jun 2017 20:09:30
Paryanko is on a different level then those 3. IMO Paryanko is the best U25 dman in the NHL.

3.) 20 Jun 2017 20:27:02
Ristolainen is better than parayko. But that's also your opinion not mine.

4.) 20 Jun 2017 20:32:35
Leafs don't have Their 2nd rnd pick or their third rnd pick in 2017 nor do they have a their 3rd rnd pick in 2018. So they will not be able to offer that amount of money. I would think the STL would match that any way. The only offer sheet toronto can offer is 4 first round picks. They require a third rnd pick in every situation above 4 mil a year.

5.) 20 Jun 2017 20:49:07
With that contract he isn't in your mentioned aav range. If you make an offer sheet the highest divisor for the aav is 5 (years) . So if you offer sheet 7x7 means that's an aav of 9.8 mil (49:5)

6.) 20 Jun 2017 23:47:11
Yah RIsto is not bad at all Same with Eklblad-Injurys. I'd say RIsto=Paryanko just a personal preference. I see Paryanko as a future shea Weber with speed.

7.) 20 Jun 2017 23:58:41
I like Parayko, however as an under 25 guy, ill take Ekblad and as McJesus says Risto. but it is close IMO between Risto and Parayko.

8.) 21 Jun 2017 02:11:11
Yeah just giving an example of something I think better. There's a lot of good dman under age 25 but parayko is defs up there.

9.) 21 Jun 2017 02:17:25
Yeah. Ekblad is the best one but he's obviously unattainable. The AAV I have him in would actually cost 2 1st rounders, a second and a third. 6x6.5 instead of 6.75 would keep it in the lower threshold meaning only 1 1st rounder. Again, doubt it would ever happen. Just an interesting thing to fill a RHD spot that most people are assuming will come via trade.

10.) 21 Jun 2017 03:29:01
parayko is sheltered behind peitrangelo on a very good defensive team. risto rielly and ekblad are all the top guys of their respective defensive units.

11.) 21 Jun 2017 04:40:50
What about patayko playing for team Canada and for team north America on top line was that sheltered too.



14 Mar 2017 23:29:59
Anaheim: Josh Manson, Jacob Larsson, 1st round pick.

Colorado: Gabriel Landeskog

This would be off season now obviously. It wouldn't happen unless ducks convinced bieksa to waive to be traded or waive to be exposed. Because if they still have to protect him, they will lose fowler, vatanen or lindholm and then would have to have these guys still available.

It gives ducks another gritty winger that can score and play an Anaheim style. Also gets him there without losing one of the big 3 D or montour/ Theodore which seems to be what guys are asking for when JVR/ Landy trades are offered.

Gives the avs 2 young D. One with a bit of experience and a mean streak and one with a good amount of upside along with a pick that should be later in the first round that they can draft a power winger to help losing landeskog or another D to help the depth there.

Also it MIGHT mean they can relax and wait on moving duchene for now if they potentially get 3 young D in this deal.

Unbiased Jim

1.) 15 Mar 2017 04:27:59
They would have to expose Rakell then.

2.) 15 Mar 2017 12:09:21
massive over payement by anaheim.

3.) 15 Mar 2017 15:26:33
To much for Landeskog. and if that's the case, as Stamkos16 said, Rackel is better than Landeskog.
Maybe Landeskog and a 2nd for Fowler. Then that might change the way Anaheim protects its roster? .
If I was Bieksa. i'd feel a little embarrassed. Lol. he's a washed up player that is putting his team in a bad situation.

4.) 16 Mar 2017 05:16:59
Why would they have to expose rackell? They can protect 7 F. Obviously getzlaf, Perry, kesler, landeskog would be. Who else would they protect over rackell? I said if bieksa waived meaning they could keep vatanen, lindholm and fowler and not have to do 8 skaters, but 7F, 3D and 1G.

5.) 16 Mar 2017 06:08:53
I'm confused why rackell would be exposed still. After the big 3F and landeskog, they could still protect rackell, cogliano and silferberg if they wanted.

6.) 16 Mar 2017 13:05:23
Because if they can't get Bieksa to waive then they are screwed.

7.) 16 Mar 2017 16:04:38
Well that's why I said this trade doesn't happen until he waives either to be traded to a team or to be exposed. But obviously rackell at his age and on a new contract on a 30+ goal pace is a priority to protect.

8.) 16 Mar 2017 16:19:14
And for the ones saying it's an overpayment, that's possible, I respect the opinion. How I was looking at it like this: the biggest piece ducks have been looking for over the last year+ is a power winger. If they could do that by trading 2 players and a late first in a weak draft and keep fowler, lindholm, vatanen, montour and Theodore, I think it's pretty good. To fill a void in your team while dealing from a position of strength and still hang on to the best 5 at that position, I'd call a success.

9.) 17 Mar 2017 21:04:06
I misread it Jim. my bad.
Like you said. all depends on Bieksa.
I personally think that Avalanche are going to want an eatablished yong dman for Landeskog. however, your proposal seems fair.




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22 Nov 2017 17:05:16
Nylander needs a contract this year (marner and Mathews are next year) . Once Nylanders is done it will set the parameters for a marner deal. I believe both will sign for 6-8 years at 6-7 mill. Just too many comparisons in that range to demand much more (ehlers, pasternak, monahan, Gaudreau, mackinnon etc) . Matthews will sign whatever he wants much like mcdavid. I believe all 3 will be in Toronto for a long time. If they were to trade marner, parayko is definitely someone I would like back, but like pointed out above, makes zero sense for blues.

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22 Nov 2017 16:58:54
Oilers fans might say it’s bad like most of the time, but I think it’s one of the best ones I’ve seen in a long time. I just have no idea of cap situation or contracts of anyone other than RNH.

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22 Nov 2017 16:00:24
That shows how little you know goldennights. Nothing but your own team, and by a lot of your posts, I’m not really even sure of that.

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22 Nov 2017 15:59:21
How is marner a fragile player? Lol have you ever watched him play? He doesn’t shy away because he’s scared, it’s called being elusive. Gaudreau and Kane don’t get hit much either. And he has been injured once in 2 seasons for 4 or 5 games.

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22 Nov 2017 08:26:52
Bergevin has definitely made his mistakes and they’re paying for it now. On the other hand, the oilers have made some terrible moves since PC got there too. I was a big fan of him in Boston and thought he would be great there.

But that Lucic contract is atrocious, he never drafted draisatl, and Leon wanted 5years 5mill last off-season and PC bet against him, costing them 8x8.5 instead (much like Bergevins bridge deal with subban bit him in the a$$ when he won a Norris and got $72 mill) . He gets zero credit for mcdavid because someone who has never watched hockey would have picked him first and signed him to whatever contract he wanted. His trade for Reinhart gave the isles Beauvillier AND Barzal with his picks while Reinhart was exposed to Vegas and has cleared waivers twice since.

Hall for Larsson will be debated for a long time, I give him a pass on that because he got a really good player in a position they desperately needed, but trading eberle when his value was at his lowest and they didn’t need the cap space till Mcdavids deal kicks in next year is a mistake. Especially now when there’s rumours they’re going to give up assets for a skilled winger.

Fighting between those two GMs performance in the last cpl years is like fighting over who’s the taller midget.

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