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27 Mar 2022 16:51:45
Calgary: Sean Monahan, 2023 1st Rd (Lottery Protected)

Detroit: 2023 3rd Rd

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1.) 27 Mar 2022 18:26:27
Not a snowball's chance in hell of that happening.


2.) 28 Mar 2022 21:25:11
Is this a joke or did you forget to add a Player or Top Prospect coming back to CGY!? Monahan in exchange for DET’s 3rd might work but what’d Calgary get in return for their 1st? 🤔.


3.) 28 Mar 2022 21:59:24
Pavel Zacha :)


 

 

31 Jan 2022 18:33:19
Det: Zadina, 2022 3rd
NYR: Kakko

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1.) 31 Jan 2022 21:21:38
Gonna cost more for Kakko IMO. He's only 20, while Zadina's value has very likely taken a big hit this year.


2.) 31 Jan 2022 21:35:54
Kakko > Zadina and the 3rd doesn’t make up for it.


3.) 02 Feb 2022 18:58:54
Agree with vbbvvbb. Kakko would take much more. Zadina and Lafreniere, to me, don't pass the eye test.


 

 

11 Jan 2022 22:15:36
Arizona: Jakob Chychrun

Detroit: 2022 1st (Top 3 Protected), Filip Zadina, Joe Veleno, 2023 3rd

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1.) 12 Jan 2022 04:27:06
The first definitely gets Arizona's attention and Zadina is an ok add but they'll probably want something better than Veleno and a 3rd.


2.) 12 Jan 2022 13:59:54
Honestly I think they do it. That 1st prolly conveys to 10-16th. Two solid prospects as well.


3.) 12 Jan 2022 14:03:07
Definitely a better offer than the Calgary one below.


4.) 12 Jan 2022 14:15:34
This is a rare thing on this site: a fair offer without the "fan bias discount". This proposal is VERY realistic. 👍.


5.) 12 Jan 2022 17:22:48
@Hockey Dad I don't think so

Detroit's first will be higher but Valimaki and Zary are better than Zadina and Veleno. Zadorov isn't a good fit with the Flames and is a bit overpaid but he's still worth a 3rd.

Replace Veleno, the third or both with something better and it's a good offer.


6.) 12 Jan 2022 17:38:21
Sure, Detroit offers Better Draft Pick Position, but if Valimaki and Zary end up being better players than Zadina and Veleno, which there's a good chance that happens, than I would say no, it isn't a better offer.

Calgary is at least offering 2 replacement LD's. Arizona may have sufficient LD depth, but I think they would be rushing the development of their young LD's. They could either flip Zadorov or Trade Gostisbehere for even more Picks and Prospects and/ or They could tryout Zadorov and if he's a good fit, they sign him for a few years and if not, they let him walk to get the Cap Space back.


7.) 12 Jan 2022 20:47:35
Detroit’s pick will be better and there two prospects/ young players are better IMO. Also 3rd is better than Zadorov.


8.) 12 Jan 2022 23:30:34
After looking at Velano's stats again he's better than I thought he was the first time I looked him up.

The first time I didn't think he was good enough to make the NHL with only one good year in the Q. Then I realized what I thought was the 2 years prior to that was actually 1 year on 2 different teams.

So it's a lot closer than I thought the Detroit offer might even be a little better. It'd probably come down to if Arizona would prefer getting defensemen or forwards in return.


9.) 13 Jan 2022 03:14:02
@Moxnix
Zadina > Zary
Veleno > Valimaki
Not sure what your thinking.


10.) 13 Jan 2022 05:27:55
He will be a blue in next couple weeks e5.


11.) 13 Jan 2022 13:57:37
blues would offer the following.

Scandella (cap) Oskar Sundqvuist, 1st 2022, scott perunovich.


12.) 15 Jan 2022 03:06:21
HOCKEY DAD - its not just you. He posts incessantly and some of it is just plain baffling. Your assessment is bang on.


13.) 15 Jan 2022 18:30:15
I bet Zary scores more than 4 Goals and 10 Points in 36games if he gets 15mins/ gm at 22. Zary's also a Centre which is more valuable.

Veleno's stats are even worse with only 3 Goals and 4 points in 22 Games. I would say both these guys need more time in the AHL to develop their game and confidence, so they can hopefully become the 1st Round caliber players they're supposed to be instead of just scoring 0.18-0.38PPG, which is what I would expect out of a 2nd/ 3rd Rounder.

Zary will be > than Zadina and Valimaki is already > than Veleno. Valimaki has more PPG than Veleno and he's a D-Man for heaven's sake.


 

 

16 Jul 2021 15:53:43
NYI: Bellows, Ladd, Hickey, Komarov, 2022 1st, 2023 2nd

DET: Future Considerations

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1.) 17 Jul 2021 01:44:40
I don’t mind the premise behind this just not wowed.

Don’t know much about Hickey recently, seems like a fringe bottom paid Dman.

Bellows, 1st and 2nd are nice pieces but taking Ladd and Komarov is a lot.

Also would much rather a Defense or Centre prospect instead of Bellows because we have wingers.

Good thought but feels like tweaking to meet needs and adjust value a bit.


 

 

14 May 2021 16:27:07
Detroit: Zadina, Bertuzzi, Svechnikov, 2021 1st, 2 2021 2nds, 2022 2nd

Buffalo: Eichel

dsc13

1.) 14 May 2021 16:35:58
Switch Burt with Sinder and drop the 2 2021 seconds.


2.) 14 May 2021 18:20:32
Doesn’t really make sense for Detroit. They’re rebuilding.


3.) 14 May 2021 19:35:18
I had a similar idea but with Caps first instead of the 2 2nds.
Zadina, Burt, Svech, both 2021 firsts for Eichel.
@NotaCasual I could see them doing it. They’re already starting to get competitive. This just accélérâtes it. 2021 is a weak draft so both picks aren’t going to get a game changer.


4.) 14 May 2021 22:48:53
NotACasual. why not build around a potential SuperStar? They don't come around that often. he's not even 25 yet.


5.) 15 May 2021 00:20:00
Seider is the one player that’s an absolute non-starter.

This still may not be enough for Eichel, that fact that I’d be willing to do it is a sign that it’s probably not enough.

That being said we would be interested as he would accelerate our rebuild but Eichel may not want to shift from one rebuild to another.

Also if Eichel wants out and he has certain level of control where he goes, then it should reduce the overall value a bit.


6.) 15 May 2021 19:03:59
He has zero control as he has no trade protection.


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2021 00:28:31
Does Erik Karlsson have negative trade value?

dsc13

1.) 22 Feb 2021 03:22:56
Ya. I believe he doesn't. he's honestly a 2nd pairing dman at this point of his career.


 

 

15 Sep 2019 18:13:23
Is Yaroslav Askarov one of the best goalie prospects of all time? Do you guys think he is worthy of a top 5 pick this upcoming draft?

dsc13

1.) 15 Sep 2019 23:37:40
He is not the best goalie prospect of all time but if he has another great year this season he might be the highest ranked Russian goalie prospect of all time. It's too early to say where he will go in the draft but I think he at least has a shot to go in the top 15.


2.) 16 Sep 2019 03:22:10
Agreed and yeah i think he should be #4 or #5


3.) 16 Sep 2019 06:59:53
No goalie should ever be drafted anywhere near the top 5 (or top 10 prolly) . Goalies are way too big of a wildcard to waste such a high pick on what would otherwise have a very good chance of becoming a real impact skater.


4.) 16 Sep 2019 09:46:30
He would need to be a star in the KHL as an 17 year old to be worthy of a top 5 selection imo.


5.) 16 Sep 2019 15:54:50
MAF was pretty highly touted as a junior and rookie. 1st overall wasn’t he? How many goalies have been drafted in the first round since then I wonder? Doesn’t happen to very many goalies.


6.) 16 Sep 2019 18:15:31
Price and vasilievski come to mind. Dipeitro went 1st overall too but that was just before fleury I think.


7.) 16 Sep 2019 21:07:53
Price was super high coming into the draft. Where was Luongo drafted?


8.) 16 Sep 2019 22:12:44
If he comes out with another great season he could be 5-10, but yeah goalies are risky. In the last 20 years only a handful of goalies went in the first round, dipietro, MAF, price, bernier, Campbell, vas. think that’s it but only 3 of the 6 turned into starter or better goalies. I guess rask would be in there too. I dunno it’s risky but if they turn into a price MAF rask or vas then the team drafting will have struck gold or they could turn into a jack Campbell on the GM looks like a idiot.


9.) 17 Sep 2019 04:04:56
Luongo was drafted 4th but that was before fleury too.


10.) 17 Sep 2019 10:30:13
Yupp has good points.


11.) 17 Sep 2019 18:39:32
Samsanov and Knight are two recently drafted in the 1st round.


12.) 17 Sep 2019 22:59:07
Ya and they both looking decent but early to tell.


13.) 17 Sep 2019 23:07:49
As a GM I would always go for the best player available in the draft so if it happens to be a goalie then I would go for it. But I wouldn't reach for a goalie just because of positional needs. Like Florida's pick was risky since Knight was not the best player available, even tho he is solid.


14.) 18 Sep 2019 14:35:16
And they were going after goalie Bob. Kinda strange first round pick for Florida. Will it be hard for the to trade older Bob with that contract in maybe 3,4,5 years when Knight should be ready?


15.) 20 Sep 2019 10:43:50
I think the plan is to put Knight as a back up in 2-5 years when he's ready and to get him to gain experience and technique with Bob and maybe do a 1A 1B situation. With Knight on a ELC for 3 years+ the 3 years it's probably going take Knight to be ready, Bobrovsky contract would be over or closest to over by the time Knight is due for a bigger contract.


16.) 21 Sep 2019 16:20:47
Al Montoya was drafted in the first round.


 

 

02 Jul 2015 16:10:22
Should the Detroit Red Wings sign Joel Ward?

dsc13

1.) 03 Jul 2015 13:27:01
No chance. It's Ward or 5/6 RFAs including Nyquist.


 

 

 

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19 Mar 2021 13:23:12
Lehtonen isn't worth a third alone that guy is a scrub.

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08 Feb 2021 23:16:44
Kivenmaki is not a B tier prospect.

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28 Jan 2021 01:13:40
Way too much for dunn.

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22 Jan 2021 18:17:19
I think its close but I know there are teams that can put together way better packages.

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12 Jan 2021 13:49:01
Laine has high trade value whether you like it or not. He's actually pretty good and I'm not a Jets fan.

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08 Jul 2015 16:12:48
Met and spoke with Gordie Howe for 5 minutes but no family ties. Also my passed grandmother was friends with conn smyth winner Roger Crozier

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