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02 Sep 2015 22:41:23
I just wanted to jump into the Kane conversation.
Hawks: Kane
Oilers: eberle + yakimov + 2017 1st round

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1.) 03 Sep 2015 03:32:20
If there is one team in the league that has no need for Kane, it would probably be the Oilers. It's not all because "attitude issues" though. If they are trading valuable assets, IT NEEDS TO BE FOR A DEFENSMAN. Not only that, but Eberle is just fine playing 1st line winger. Plus given his ceiling, he most likely won't be getting a huge pay raise when his contact is up.


2.) 03 Sep 2015 06:42:43
Yea I was thinking the same, now way the Oilers should be interested. Especially adding that $10M salary. Eberle will be just fine, for $4 less as well.
But my good buddy who is a massive Hawks fan said he read Oilers were maybe interested, possibly Hall and a pick for Kane. Either way this story gets more and more interesting. Sucks


 

 

25 Aug 2015 09:04:43
Oilers: reinhart + yak
Blues: Shattenkirk

edm oil

1.) 25 Aug 2015 15:26:00
so basically an unproven prospect dman who will take a few years to see what he is really worth. and a one way selfish player who can't hack it on the worst team in the league.

The Blues say NO. Blocked EDMS number.


2.) 25 Aug 2015 16:49:51
Huge no from Edmonton yak and reinhart both have potential to be better players than shattenkirk


3.) 25 Aug 2015 17:10:07
Russian Tank

Honestly Shattenkirk is a great defender, but I don't think he would fetch much more than that. He ain't worth McDavid


4.) 25 Aug 2015 21:07:56
I don think you understand. His value is high in the league and even higher to the blues. i'm sorry but hopes and washed out first rounders don't mean dinky doo. The blues are not trading shattenkirk. If he isn't worth that much then why is everyone posting 3-4 trades wanting him every freaking day


5.) 25 Aug 2015 23:57:59
Everyone was posting at least that many Kessel trades a day he didn't get the crap your looking for.

Would you accept this?… probably not

Hall, Klefbom, Nurse
For
Shattenkirk


6.) 26 Aug 2015 01:11:42
No from blues. Not saying anythings wrong with value. Who replaces Shats on D? Reinhart sure isn't this year.


7.) 26 Aug 2015 13:56:55
As much as I love hall nurse is un proven and it doesn't fill our hole in the d unit if blues were not trying to win now I would take that trade in a heart beat but we are in win now mode hall makes offence better but nurse isn't NHL ready yet so now we have a pp problem and a #2 odman problem with no suitable defences


8.) 26 Aug 2015 14:13:15
You can't compare Kessel to shattenkirk in worth. There are to many different variables in play and I will name them all.

1) shattenkirk is an RFA still after next season Kessel is in the beginning of a huge overpayment contract.

2) shattenkirk is still very young and in the beginning of his prime. comming off two back to back 45 pt seasons in the second of which he was on pace to score 60 pts. but instead got 45pts in 56 games.

3) Kessel has made a bad name for himself in 3 ways. (1) He is a selfish one way player who doesn't help on defense. (2) he has a huge attitude problem in the locker room. (3) he has been said to be uncoachable by boston and toronto coaches .

Shattenkirk is a team player who plays defense just as well as he plays offence. He is well liked by the organization and by the coaches. "nicest kid around" per armstrong. "a real leader". per hitch and you know how he feels about young players.

3) toronto was on a firesale and are in rebuild mode so they got the best they could for kessels high contract just to get rid of him. THe blues are in a win now mode and Shattenkirk is a large part of the team. he is needed.

4) the blues are not in a cap problem situation. All the core players are locked up to reasonable contracts. Next year several vetrans fall off the books including Brouwer, ott, elliot, and backes. that's plenty ofmoney to sign shatty and swartz to reasonable long contracts.

5) Shattenkirk is an RFA the blues hold all the bargaining power with him. Besides he loves it here and we love him so why would he want to leave for a team that can't even make the freaking playoffs.

Its not that I dontthink Hall and nurse is reasonable but it is going to take an un-resonable offer (huge overpayment) to pull shattenkirk from st. louis that's my point.


9.) 26 Aug 2015 22:07:09
You make all good points and Shattenkirk probably won't be moved. But IF they were offered that (they wouldn't be) they would take it in a heart beat


10.) 27 Aug 2015 14:02:03
I really don't think they would.

Gunnerson berglund rattie

for

Hall 2nd

would you take that. Fills your need for a great big puck controling left ,right or center, fills the need for your horrible defense,and puts another nhl ready young entry level contract with huge upside he set records in juniors. Plus he has had 1/3 of a season to learn two way hockey, which is something that doesn't get get coached in edm. you know they would take it.


 

 

14 Aug 2015 07:53:29
What would it take to get Byfuglien?
He might not sign with the jets. Edmonton is need of a dman like him.

I'm sure jets would want eberle, but Byfuglien only has a year left. There is no promise he will sign with the oilers.

What about this?
2016 1st (lottery protected) + Shultz or Fayne (jets choose) + Purcell (retained 25%)

Purcell can have a good role on the jets. He could probably score 15 to 20 goals.

Do the oilers add a pick (2nd round) or a prospect (pitlick)?

edm oil

1.) 14 Aug 2015 16:23:05
EDM is in need of a defenseman that is good defensively, so Byfuglien is out.


2.) 14 Aug 2015 19:43:18
Draisaitl_94

Why do you hate so much of Byfuglien?

He is a good, top 2 defenceman. End of story.


3.) 15 Aug 2015 08:54:12
I don't hate on Byfuglien.
There are two things I say about him:

1. He's overrated on here (which doesn't mean he sucks in general)
2. He is an offensive defenseman (doubt anyone will argue this)

Since the Oilers are rather in need of a defensive defenseman (since keeping pucks out of their net is a bigger problem than scoring will be with the forward group they have), I don't think Byfuglien is a good fit in EDM.

If they were to give up their first round pick, they'd want to acquire something they desperately need (defensive D).


 

 

20 Jun 2015 21:33:17
Oilers: 16th overall pick
Rangers: talbot + Klein

edm oil

1.) 21 Jun 2015 06:09:39
More like NYR Yandke, Talbot for EDM 16th overall.


2.) 21 Jun 2015 06:57:12
you mean yandle? Yandle is an older version of Shultz. No defensive responsibility. Klein has a better contract and is better defensively and has some offence to him.


 

 

14 Jun 2015 06:30:31
Devils: larsson
Oilers: yak + 3rd round pick 2015

Boston: Hamilton
Oilers: draistal + 16 overall 2015 + Shultz or marnicin

Rangers: talbot
Oilers: 33 overall pick 2015

Buyout: niktin


Oilers ufa signings:
1. Soderberg 3.5m for 3 years
2. Stewart 3.5m for 3 years

Pouliot/RNH/Ebs ($16m)
Hall/Mcdavid/Stewart ($13m)
Lander/Soderberg/Purcell ($9m)
Hendricks/Gordon/Klinkhammer ($5m)
Gadzik/Pakarinen ($1m)

Klefbom/Hamilton ($8m)
Marnicin/Larsson ($5.5m)
Ference/Fayne ($6.5m)
Davidson ($2m including nikitin buyout)

Talbot
Scrivens
($4m)

$70m

edm oil

1.) 14 Jun 2015 12:42:35
Just throw 7 mill at hamilton and boston won't be able to match. You will have to give a first a second and third though but that's less than your offer


2.) 14 Jun 2015 18:27:33
I'd take the Hamilton deal but I'd want Schulz, not Marincin. BUT. Hamilton isn't going anywhere. Boston will sign him or match.


3.) 14 Jun 2015 20:09:26
Actually like those d lines, nurse could probably fit in there though. Agreed offersheet him and Draisaitl could fit in the top 6


4.) 15 Jun 2015 01:37:39
yoi gove Hamilton an offer sheet, it needs to be over $7.5 for Boston not to be able to sign him.
If it is over $7.5, then oilers need to give up 2 first round picks, a second and a third. That is a lot of future gone.


5.) 15 Jun 2015 05:20:27
Just switch Fayne and Marincin.


 

 

 

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04 Jul 2015 08:45:22
I like PC's moves. However, I think they should sign franson. They need to get rid of a dman or two.
1. Shultz: trade him for a 4th round pick or let him go. He is RFA. Anyways, if they sign franson, then Shultz would be isles.
2. Another move that they could do is trade nikitin or Ference. Trade him for a 7th round pick, and oilers can retain 25% of the salary.

edm oil

1.) 05 Jul 2015 00:18:16
Unless Schultz has another crappy year I'd be mad if he was traded for a 4th. He's a top for d if he gets better defensively which McLellan will do. I'll be excited if they trade Niktin and Ference cause that'll open up spots for Nurse and Reinhart.


 

 

29 Dec 2014 06:04:41
If oilers get 1st overall, what should they do?
1. Pick Mcdavid
2. Trade the pick and fill Agee holes.

If oilers trade it, what would they get in return?

edm oil

1.) Trade it if you ask me. Oilers have to many holes and they can fill most if not all with that pick. Aaand I'm a Nuge fan


2.) Depends on what a trade would look like. There aren't many teams that are flush with enough young talent to make that trade (based on what Edmonton would likely want - #1 D, #1 goalie and a young top 6 forward with 1st line upside/top 5 pick).

Now, if they could trade down but stay high enough to draft in the top 4 then I think that may make sense. But again, the issue will be what they are getting in that scenario.


3.) Trade;

1st Overall Pick, Viktor fasth, maybe another player to any team

(lets say columbus)

1st line center (Johansen)
top tier future defenceman (murray)
solid goalie (bobrovsky)
winger + another center (calvert, anisimov

So:

McDavid, Fasth, Purcell, 5th?
for
Bobrovsky, Johnasen, murray, calvert, anisimov

Team:

Hall johansen eberle
Perron Rnh yakupov
Roy anisimov pouliot
fraser/hendricks gordon calvert

Murray schultz
petry fernece
fayne niktin

bobrovsky
scrivens

better team all round


 

 

23 Nov 2014 07:40:35
True oiler fans should boycott the games. They don't deserve us as fans. It's too much. It's enough. Who agrees?

edm oil

1.) Ya I agree, nothing is going to change unless fans stop going to games


2.) Just out of curiosity (as a non-oiler fan - but still a supporter of the organization). What is that has to change that can't be changed by time and a few strategic moves?

I am only asking the question bc, while Edmonton has been terrible the last few years, they are really only 4 years into this rebuild. In other words, it's still very much a work in progress. I guess don't see the logic in burning down the barn if the barn isn't even fully built yet.


3.) 24 Nov 2014 16:20:24
Problem are all the first overall picks. High expectations for players and the team. People think: EDM has like 3 first overalls on their team, how are they not atop the league? But it's not working that fast and, tbh, they didn't draft THAT ONE player. Sure, Hall, RNH and maybe also Yakupov one day are good to great players. But they didn't end up getting absolute superstars like PIT did with Crosby, WSH with Ovechkin, TB with Stamkos, etc.


4.) I totally agree what Draisaitl_94 said. Give it some time. Now the Oilers have a couple of great D prospects. As soon as they are ready to take over and Draisaitl has developped his game, the Oilers will be a safe playoff-team year in year out. Sure they need a decent goalie to go deep in PO. But that's something they can easily find via FA. I'd say give them 2 to 3 more years from now and they'd be fine.


 

 

04 Aug 2014 18:08:57
If Columbus and johanssen can't get a deal, many teams will jump on this opportunity.

As an oilers fan, oilers could offer draistal + Petry + lander + gernat.
Columbus could use Dubinsky + anisomov + Jenner + lander as centres and allow draistal to develop.
Columbus could use Petry now. #3 d-man.
Oilers could have Johannsen and RNH as 1 and 2.
What do you think? Comments?

edm oil

1.) Columbus can do better.

Draisaitl may be good, but that's a few years away and Johanssen looks special.
Petry tops out as a middle pairing d-man, Columbus has 2 of those already.
Lander and Gernat project as bottom 6 forwards.

My guess is someone else would give up a young d-man with top 3 potential, a young top 6 forward and a few 1sts for Johanssen.


2.) 06 Aug 2014 01:30:29
yea I think columbass coul do a lot better to in getting young NHL ready taent for janhssen rather than risks in prospects.


 

 

04 Aug 2014 16:51:46
Oilers need to make a couple of more moves.
1. I'd like to see then sign loktoinov to a one year / 1 million. This digging would give oilers more depth in the centre position which they need desperately.

2. Oilers need to take advantage of the teams that are in some cap problem:
A. Bruins: boychuk for gernat + 3rd pk (but turns into a 2nd pk if he signs with oilers. I can imagine boychuk signing with oilers next season. He is from Edmonton and he gets to play with his exteammate Ference).
B. Chicago: oduay for musil + 3rd pk
(I'd love to see oilers go for seabrook. The trade could go like this: seabrook for klefbom + 2nd rd pk + prospect).
C. Toronto: franson: musil or gernat + 3rd rd pk.
D. Phili: coburn: gernat +2nd rd pk (2nd rd pk because he has 2 yrs on his contract. The rest of d-man above only have 1 yr).

3. Washington has a lot of d-man.
Green (1yr left at 6m) for gernat or musil + pitlick + 3rd but turns to 2nd if he signs with oilers.

4. After oilers get their d-man, they trade Petry for to get a centreman:
A. Dallas: Eakins for Petry
B. isles: bailey for Petry
C. Nashville: Wilson for Petry
D. Columbus: anisomov for Petry + 3rd pk
E. jersey: henrique for Petry + 2nd pk

Comments?

edm oil

1.) I think Schultz would have to be in a trade for Seabrook


2.) I think the oilers should sign a ufa for a year until Draisaitl is ready. Maybe they think Draisaitl is ready and that's why they haven't signed one yet. And the oilers have enough 3, 4, 5 (Ference, Petry, Nikitin, Fayne) dmen I think they need to sign a number one or two dman. By next year they'll need to make room for Marincin (if he doesn't play this year), Klefbom, Nurse.


3.) Handzus would be a great low risk move. Older? Yes. Slower? Kinda yeah, but he's been around the NHL so you could expect solid play. Not a true offensive threat, but his defensive play is still pretty good
Could get him for 1 mil.


 

 

 

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26 Sep 2015 05:04:19
Jones is a real good damn, but how the hell is he the best damn in the NHL. Seriously?

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26 Sep 2015 05:02:11
What is even worse than the trade are the 6 guys who agreed with him.

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05 Sep 2015 08:49:55
Oilers need a defensive defence man. Yandle isn't one.

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27 Jul 2015 02:41:32
oilers didn't give nurse up for Hamilton. Why would they for phaneuf?

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17 Jul 2015 04:57:22
erhoff would be awesome, but I agree. He needs more money. I think it would be fair to give him 4 to 5 m for one year.

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04 Aug 2014 17:39:35
If the oilers took the other players, we would be asking the same questions about RNH and hall and nurse and yak today. All these players are great and will ah e great futures. At tr end of the day, players need to work and play hard and organizations need to develop properly.

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04 Aug 2014 17:39:34
If the oilers took the other players, we would be asking the same questions about RNH and hall and nurse and yak today. All these players are great and will ah e great futures. At tr end of the day, players need to work and play hard and organizations need to develop properly.

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18 Jul 2014 16:44:53
What if jackets and johanssen can't come to an agreement?

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