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14 Oct 2014 21:20:42
Four Trades:
To Col - Kessel
(12.5% retained = $1,000,000)
To Tor - Duchene
effectively making each player $7,000,000
Leafs get #1 centre.
AVS get top 10 scorer consistent point producer who will most likely be more productive with better players around him and is out of Toronto.
To LAK - Lupul
To TOR - Richards
under performing Richards (offensively) gets a shot at a more offensive role. Brings much needed character and leadership to TOR. Lupul when healthy a very productive winger can be sheltered better in stronger Defensive team. Cheaper $ then Richards which is beneficial for cap struck team like LA who will want to make $$ available for deadline and or offseason
To MIN - Phaneuf
To TOR - Ballard (cap dump), Coyle & 1st in 2015 (if MIN makes West final) if MIN fails to make to west final or cup final TOR receives 2nd in 2015.
- despite the nonsense that surrounds Phaneuf for being on the Leafs. He is #2 on 95% of the teams in the NHL. Suter, Phaneuf & Brodin allows MIN to compete with the big boys in the West in LAK, CHI & STL.
To NYR - Kadri
To TOR - Kreider
- both promising young players. Kadri thus far has produced .638 ppg in 180 games played. Kreider in 92 games has produced .42 ppg. Kreider a winger with great size & strength. Kadri great skill set. Both Kadri & Kreider are the same age and drafted in same year.
TOR Lineup:
JVR/Duchene/Coyle
Kreider/Bozak/Clarkson
Winnik/Richards/Santorelli
Komarov/Holland/Panik
Gardiner/Robidas
Rielly/Polak
Percy/Franson
Bernier/Reimer
- muffdiver
1.) 1.Kadri is way better than Kreider
2. Ballard is a bum
2.) 15 Oct 2014 12:19:56
The trades are not super one-sided but I think all 4 teams decline.
LA has generally no reason for a change. Duchene is (almost) as good as Kessel right now, but is obviously younger (27 vs 23) and has an even higher ceiling, plus his contract is better. (6 per vs 8 per)
Minnys D is already good, and Coyle + 1st in THE draft 2015? No way.
Personally, I think Kreider is the better player, also higher ceiling. He will be a poor mans version of Corey Perry rather sooner than later.
3.) As a leaf fan, I would actually like these moves, but they seem to drastic for any of the above teams to make at this point in the season.
Kessel for duchene could happen with the emergence of mackinnon and oreilly, but it severely depletes their centre depth.
Lupul for richards could be bad for the leafs. richards has lost his game and has shown that for couple seasons now.
I would trade phaneuf for anything. I seriously doubt minny trades Coyle (he was the centrepiece of the Burns trade)
Kadri for Kreider is a wash, both should be very good top 6 forwards when they reach their maturity. this only happens if the leafs trade for another top-6 centre
overall they are fair value-wise IMO, but seem to be too drastic at this point in time
09 Jul 2014 15:26:42
To Boston - Hagelin & Coburn
To New York R - Lecavalier
To Philadelphia - Krug & Boychuk
To Detroit - Eriksson
To Boston - Mantha
Lucic/Kreci/Smith
Marchand/Bergeron/Mantha
Hagelin/Soderberg/Kelly
Paille/Campbell/Caron
Chara/Sidenberg
Coburn/Hamilton
Bartkowski/McQuaid
Rask
1.) 09 Jul 2014 16:13:15
no way the wings move mantha and if they did it would take a lot more then Eriksson!
2.) So the rangers ship out hagelin and get back lecavalier, fat chance. Detroit isn't trading mantha, definitely not for eriksson
3.) People need to look at the cap situations before posting trades. Rangers don't have the cap space
4.) I don't see Tory Krug moving, but I think he'd move before Boychuck. Certainly not both.
07 Jul 2014 16:37:05
3 TOR trades:
1) Make Nashville a playoff contender.
To Nsh - Lupul, Kadri & rights to Franson
To Tor - Smith, Forsberg & 3rd in 2015 (3rd becomes a 2nd in NSH makes playoffs)
NSH Lineup:
Lupul/Kadri/Neal
Nystrom/Jokinen/Cullen
Stalberg/Fisher/Wilson
Bourque/Gaustad/Clune
Jusi/Weber
Ellis/Jones
Bartley/Franson
Rinne/Hutton
- - - - -
2) shore up DAL D
To Dal - Phaneuf
To Tor - Horcoff, Oleksiak & 1st in 2015
Benn/Seguin/Nichushkin
Roussel/Spezza/Hemskey
Garbutt/Fiddler/Peverley
Cole/Sceviour/Eaves
Goligoski/Phaneuf
Dailey/Benn
Gonchar/Dillon
Lethonen/Lindbak
- - - - -
3)
To TBL - Kessel
To TOR - Brewer, Ohlund, Drouin, Vasilevskiey & 1st in 2015
Palat/Stamkos/Callahan
Killorn/Filppula/Kessel
Kucherov/Johnson/Connolly
Panik/Boyle/Brown
Carle/Hedman
Garrison/Stralman
Barberio/Gudas
Bishop/Nabakov
- - - - -
TOR Lineup:
JVR/Bozak/Smith
Drouin/Horcoff/Forsberg
Komarov/Santorelli/Clarkson
Ashton/Kontiola/Frattin
Bodie
Gardiner/Robidas
Rielly/Polak
Oleksiak/Granberg
Brewer/Ohlund
Bernier/Reimer
- TOR is in Full Rebuild with these 3 trades: Connor McDavid here we come.
Ps. Cap works for all 4 teams
1.) 07 Jul 2014 17:47:25
That must be the worst post I've ever seen.
As if the 1st and 2nd trade wouldn't be bad enough, the Tampa Toronto trade is the biggest joke ever.
I tell you, TB wouldn't trade Drouin straight up for Kessel, but a package auf 2 of the top 3 prospects in the world (Drouin, Vasilevski) + 1st rd pick + 2 dmen is just such a bad joke.
Btw, Ohlund will never play a NHL game again, he will go to LTIR.
Wow, is this bad.
2.) That kessel trade is a joke.
Drouin has 120+ point potential and more skill than anyone in the nhl.
I wouldent trade drouin for kessel straight up let alone add the best goalie prospect in the world+
3.) What an overpayment by tampa. Horrible trade for them. They want druin more then kessel.
4.) Utter delusion. Terrible, terrible trades that help Toronto much more than the other team. And that Kessel trade? LOLOL!! That's got to be one of the worst proposals I've ever seen on here! So funny!
5.) @ oil country . key word in your post is "potential" please post kessels stats since he has been in the league and while you're at it please post his age.
6.) Drouin hasn't proved anything yet so to say he isn't worth kessel straight up is just wrong
7.) ^ would you trade kessel for the 1st overall pick in 2015.point proven
8.) Kessel will soon be 27,has never been a plus as a leaf,has only been ABOVE ppg once and gets paid 8 mil.
9.) All three of those trades are terrible!
10.) Because kessel gets 80 points a uear. Plus Drouin could easily become a bust like alexander burmistrov or luke schenn who wer taken so high in the draft and now burmistrov is in the khl and schenn is the 5th dman for the flyers
11.) 08 Jul 2014 06:16:28
^ Drouin is neither a Maple Leaf draft pick nor russian.
12.) Or Brett Connolly
13.) 08 Jul 2014 14:27:55
1. Connolly isn't a bust (yet), he's stuck behind TBs loaded offense.
2. He was a 6th pick, Drouin was 3rd and Drouin was way way way more praised than Connolly. Rightfully so.
14.) Still players taken high in the draft can really turn into busts. Schenn, Burmistrov Connoly (tanks charles), Thomas Hickey, Calvin De Haan , patrik Stefan and the list goes on. I mean yes the trade is way of an overpayment by TB but still if you had to trade Drouin for Kessel on for one its pretty fair because kessel can score 80 points and we still won't know how much drouin can until next year. If he had played this year and been like johnson or palat or mackinnon yes toronto needs to give more. However if he turned outlike barkov toronto needs to put less. But drouin is not proven so its even
15.) Whether they've played in the league or not asking for 2 of the top 3 prospects in the sport is ridiculous. And for those calling Connolly a bust he is what 22? And lit up the ahl just hasn't had a spot on the big club until potentially this year
16.) Wel he's been in the ahl for so long he can easily come up
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