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09 Jan 2015 17:57:28
Leafs need an actual rebuild and it needs to start with the captain of the team. Phaneuf, in my opinion, is actually a pretty solid defensman given the right partner and right minutes. Overplay him and he'll look terrible which unfortunaley the leafs have done from time to time. When given the right partner and minutes he's an excellent 2 way defenseman whos physical and can provide offense. Why do the leafs trade him then? Because they need to start over and start aquiring young players and picks. The phaneuf core has not worked out and if the leafs actually did a proper rebuild and drafted guys like seguin and hamilton while keeping steen and rask we would be playoff bound by now. My proposal to the oilers for their 1st pick (as long as the pick is in the top 2 so we can start the rebuild with a potential num. 1 C either mcdavid or eichel). Is as follows:

To Toronto: Oilers first round pick 2015 and nikitin (cap dump)

To Oilers: Phaneuf, Reimer and Torontos 1st rounder 2015 and maybe 2nd 2015 if its not enough

Why this is good for both teams. Its already good for Toronto because we can start are rebuild with a young stud. Good for oilers because they get talent they desperatley need now. We all know they don't need another top 3 pick they need a top pairing defenseman (phaneuf) and a real goalie (reimer) they also dump a bad contract in nikiitin and get our 1st rounder for added value. For those who think reimer sucks your wrong. He led the leafs (who are always badly outshot) to the playoffs a couple years back . He as only had bad stats because he gets thrown to the wolves sort of speak. If you watch the leafs you know reimer battles hard and usually gets the bad matchups. He usually gives the team a chance to win and stops a lot of shots. The team just doesn't have the defense in front of him. Phaneuf is also good to edmonton because they get a native and someone who can provide grit and top minutes until klefboom and nurse are regulars. Plus phaneuf could use a change of scenery after enduring years of hate from the media and fans. What do you guys think? I know its long but its my first post. Thanks

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1.) Please please stop with this trade! no! the oilers don't want phaneuf and remier and whatever else to try and get the first pick.

start with Reilly nylander and jvr and your first. and the oilers still might not do it


2.) Take off phaneuf and add rielly and i'd take that


3.) 10 Jan 2015 02:04:58
@yzerman you are crazy if you think edm wouldn't accept that.

JVR: Can compete with Hall for that spot on the first line.

Reilly: future Duncan Kieth. I'm a pens fan and he is the best young defenseman in the league (other than Ekblad)

Nylander: Great young center man. Will be a lock for the #1B spot on edm

You add a first to that and it is robbery.


4.) The Oilers will need Nylander and your 2nd line center, and a 1st round pick. And that's just a start.


5.) 10 Jan 2015 04:02:33
It's kind of funny how in a deal Reimer is a "real" goalie and Phaneuf is a "top pairing defenseman" when most fans are ready to throw them both off a bridge. In REALITY they're both overpaid tablescraps. Phaneuf may have been worth something five years ago, but he gets beat BADLY several times a game. Reimer? Never was.


6.) @Yzerman19 LOL so your saying we have to basically give up 4 first rounders for one pick and one potential player? Ridiculous, I understand oilers would overvalue their pick but its the oilers. They know they need help now and not more top 3 picks. Hell i'd be willing to throw in another b prospect like percy with phaneuf and reimer plus our first and second if need be. But what i'm doing defintley doesn't involve giving up reilly a no 5 pick who will probably develop into a star. Not giving up JVR a guy whos only in his early 20s has a great contract and skillset with a 30 goal season already under his belt and nylander common he's got all the skill in the world just watch world juniors and our first on top of all that? Wayyyy to much.


 

 

 

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Hmmm how bout bernier and phaneuf and a 3rd for fayne scrivens and a bad contract plus yo first I say this because I think it helps both teams and I really don't think bernier will resign with us at seasons end

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Way too much from b's for ufas

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^ lol just wanted to tell Habs fans that Fucale is not a top 'gk' and is actually quite over rated
- sincerely from a leafs fan

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What a pile of rubbish coming back to Toronto no way we want highly touted prospects and 1st round picks

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No thanks from T.O . *hangs up phone

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