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19 Dec 2014 11:04:20
MTL: Jacob de la Rose, 2015 3rd
BUF: Drew Stafford (50% retained) & Johan Larsson .
MONTREAL doesn't WANT STAFFORD. HE IS NO BETTER THEN PA PARENTEAU. And they wouldn't give one of their top prospects for him either.
Very interesting! I reposted two proposed trades that received overwhelming believable responses the 1st time they were posted and this time, all unbelievable. Soobydoo, thanks for the comments.
If Devils are out of a playoff spot by trade deadline, how about Habs 'rent' Jagr to play with his buddy Plek & have another shot @ the Cup with Conn Smythe winner Price?
18 Dec 2014 19:10:26
Desharnais,andrighetto for Perron
Fills 2nd line lw for montreal and edmonton gets a 2c until draisaitl is ready and they get also get a good yound prospect
Allen, bournival, 2nd for bickell
Clears cap space for next season for chicago but they still get a younger player that can fill bickells 3rd line left wing and a good pick, allen to balance cap for this season and gives montreal a big winger to play with eller
Gilbert, pateryn, 3rd for z.michalek
Pacioretty, Galchenyuk. Sekac
Perron. Plekanec. Gallagher
Bickell. Eller. Parenteau
Prust. Malhotra. Wiese
Deharnais is the worst fit for Edmonton maybe if he was a last resort. But he is over-rated, would get lit up, and just isn't the big/physical center they actually need. Considering they are talking about Vermette and Anisimov for Perron. Deharnais does not compare
Change desharnais to eller
Vermette's a pending UFA, why would OIls trade for him now? what's the point?
17 Dec 2014 23:04:35
mon: Markov, Tinordi/ Bealieu, 1st
Wont happen, Markov has NTC, won't waive it to play in ARZ
Also a no because yandle is not worth a good vet d man a good yound dman and a 1st overall pick. major overpayment.
17 Dec 2014 03:22:04
To MTL: Drew Stafford (retain 50%), William Carrier, NYI 2015 1st
To BUF: Lars Eller, Nikita Sherbak
MTL could use another top 6 winger and BUF needs a good puck possession player and solid centre so we can stop putting wingers at centre. IMO it's a fair deal but I not who adds and how much
I take it Sherbak is the deal breaker would Stafford with retained salary straight for Eller work or would BUF add?
Actually, Hodgson, McCormick, Mitchell, Girgenson, Ennis & Flynn are now and hopefully next year Grigorenko and Reinhart will be centers. It is just the "Village Motivator" who decides to put Foligno at center and make lines with all right or all left handed shots. Go to www.LeftWingLock.com to confirm my statement.
No thanks from Habs
Stafford 0.58 pts/gm
542 141 173 314
eller 0.36 pts/gm
314 52 62 114
IMO Stafford is worth more than Eller based on life time and this years stats.
Carrier & 1st is worth more than Nikita Scherbak.
Remember right handed shots are a real premium.
Here are two scenarios
Drew Stafford (retain 50%), William Carrier, NYI 2015 2nd for Lars Eller, Nikita Sherbak
Drew Stafford (retain 50%) for Lars Eller & 2015 3rd.
As I said above, Centers are not a problem now and less in the future for the Sabres.
@Boris Bagel, great we agree, no deal. I love it when we agree.
None of the centres you mentioned that are on the team now actually look good a centre and definetly can't win face offs. Eller is signed long term on a good contract, is great at face offs and is a hard working Ted Nolan type player. If we don't get McEichel which we most likely won't Eller would make a great 3C behind Reinhart and Girgs. He can be moved up to a 2C while they develop.
@sabres14, you are correct that Eller is a faceoff beast, but does make him equal to Stafford, IMO no. Stafford also brings a physical presence to the game as well as scoring more points. IDK why but if you look at their entire history the Sabres hardly ever approached average FO%. IMO they should hire Konopka as a face off coach.
Stafford is a UFA, a rental, you won't get equal player signed long term/reasonable cap hit.
at best 2nd rounder & B level prospect
16 Dec 2014 20:46:44
MTL: Plekanec & (Tinordi or Beaulieu) & (Bournival or Thomas) & Fucale & 1st 2015 & 2nd 2016 for 2nd overall pick(Eichel)
If you want a franchise player, you'll need to give elite/franchise player.
Eichel could still go 1st
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16 Dec 2014 06:00:35
Taylor Hall is on the market?
Mtl: Eller + Desharnais + Beaulieu + fucale + 1 round
If I were edmonton I would not do this trade the players they would be getting I don't believe would give them the culture change they are looking for. This trade doesn't give them a star player nor does it give a top pairing dman which the need badly.
Montreal is in need of a #1 RW not a LW.
If they were to make a trade it would probably be for Eberle.
Galchenyuk has to be involved.
If Galchenyuk is involved, OIls need to add their 1st round pick in '15
HAHAHAHAHAH great joke :)
@Boris Bagel You seem to be a little biased towards your habs.
Subban and Galchenyuk
Okay stemer as much as I like that yrade that is horrible for habs in value skill and talent
Hall won't get Subban by himself let alone Galchenyuk with him.
Gallagher , Galchenyuk , Fucale and a 1st 2016
Hall and a 5th 2016
Too much for Hall, just DD, 1st rounder plus Fucale is more than enough
Considering Hall & Desharnais have same amount of points so far this season (& DD has way better +/-), Oils need to add Perron with Hall to get land for DD, Fucale & 1st
@Bagel, nobody judge's players on one season alone but if that's your logic them you won't mind this trade.
He has more points so far this season, better +/-, Montreal had better add a pick don't you think.
Except Gally is 20 and a budding superstar, the other guy is a 30 year old journeyman late bloomer
Well Ok , Hall is 23 and is a superstar,Desharnais is a 5"7 , 28 year old journeyman late bloomer. I still don't understand your argument, you and most other delusional habs fans undervalue every other teams players. How is Hall for Desharnais , Fucale and a late 1st enough?
@steamer the trade with gallager galchenyuk and fucale is good, change the 1st to a 2nd and the 5th to a 5th 2017, i'm sorry @boris bagel is delusional and dosent know anything about hall, He is one of those people that ruin the habs reputation, please excuse @bagels stupidity and biased opinion to the habs if you will
15 Dec 2014 21:30:55
sorry haven't been on this site for a while but oh well here goes.
MON: desharnais, 4th rund pick 2015
MON: 2nd, 4th
Personally I like the 1st trade more but whatever its the internet do what you want!
Please go back to where you were, these trades are not very good, more would have to be added by montreal
Edmonton needs a lot of things but desharnais isn't one of them.
DD for Perron is OK, Habs don't need to add a pick.
@StaalingForTime lmao wtf be nice
14 Dec 2014 15:44:17
Mtl: Desharnais + Beaulieu + 3rnd pick
What do you think?
I don't think Philly will want another centre but I think if Desharnais was switched for a different forward or different defensemen it would work.
As a habs fan, I'd love to see Simmonds with Montreal but Philly would want more.
I don't think the flyers would want to trade Simmonds. or at least they shouldnt
If Montreal wants Simmonds it'll be more like
Gallagher , Del la Rose
Even then , Philly might still decline.
Seems to be a fair trade value
14 Dec 2014 02:31:10
Clb: conditional 3rd 2015*
*whatever rule they want
SJ: Nieto, 3rd 2015
Phi: L. Schenn
Mtl: Eller, Nygren
Ott: Michalek, 4rth 2016
Ari: M. Stone, Lessio
Anaheim probably adds for cap reasons
My first post!
Boston easily says no to that trade getting rid of Seidenberg for a pick would be a horrible decision.
And I believe Arizona says no to ottawa on that trade as well. Michalek has been on a steep decline and has basically been playing fourth line minutes on a bad ottawa team.
@Bruuh, I think you made a good effort and your trades a probably close, but when you put them all into one post, almost everyone will find at least one trade they disagree with and vote unbelievable. Next time separate your posts and listen to the feedback. We are often guided by our biases and misjudge talent. Keep trying and do not get discouraged.
Habs have absolutely no need for another defensemen, and if any centre is going to be moved it's Desharnais.
Well Perron is a winger… and no one wants desharnais
First Perron is and only a winger, not a defencemen. And second, if you're really a "habs fan", u would know they cannot trade DD, first, he's a way better center, and second, for Eller they could get something good in return. DD sadly dosen't have more value than a 4rth rd pick.
14 Dec 2014 01:59:28
MTL: Jacob de la Rose, 2015 3rd
BUF: Drew Stafford (50% retained) & Johan Larsson.
13 Dec 2014 21:09:14
Bournival is too valuable to give up because he does everything right, he just has to step up his offense.
Chicago needs to add
12 Dec 2014 23:40:35
Oilers need to get rid of Schultz
Oilers: Simmonds, Lecavalier, Coburn
PHI: Schultz, Purcell, Nikitin, 3rdp 2015
Then they still need help down the middle and on D. So;
Wings: Petry, Arco
Oilers: Sekera (signed)
Car: Marincin, Lander, 2rdp 2015
MTL: Perron, 2rdp 2016
Keep dreaming OIls fans
Philly loses the first trade. Don't know the value on Sheahan but that trade seems beleivable. Don't know sekaras value but don't think it's worth giving up marincin. And oilers over pay on Montreal trade.
Detroit is not trading Sheahan for that he is trending up, no thanks
Petry has been playing good this year y get rid of him.
12 Dec 2014 21:41:54
WIN:frolik, 3rd round pick 2015
13 Dec 2014 07:10:15
Don't think winnipeg would trade Frolik right now. I like the Chi and Mtl trade.
Habs don't need Bickell and the huge contract he's unworthy of.
It's not like they haven't had someone not worthy of a contract before.
*Cough* Gomez *Cough*
Actually the habs do need a player like bickell, and a #1 centre.
Habs won't have cap space for Bickell if its just Beaulieu. CHI would have to take another contract off from Habs. maybe Gilbert's
12 Dec 2014 15:01:21
Montreal: Tom Gilbert, Eric Tangradi, 2nd 2016(montreal's) and Magnus Nygren or Greg Pateryn
New Jersey: Adam Larsson and Ben Thomson
I changed it a bit :)
Habs throw in Desharnais, too
10 Dec 2014 15:11:01
Montreal: Tom Gilbert and 2016 2nd round pick(Montreal's)
New Jersey: Adam Larsson
As much as the devils have struggled I can't see them trading Larsson for that
If Jersey has given up on Larsson , it's going to take more than that to get him in Montreal.
I think Bournival would have to be going to NJ in order for Larsson to go to MTL
I agree with Charles Xavier, steamer and Neymar.
New Jersey: Adam Larsson
Montreal: Tom Gilbert and 2016 2nd round pick (Montreal's)
maybe Habs throw in Nygren or Dietz, plus Nevins
10 Dec 2014 02:18:22
Edmonton is looking for McDavid this year. they need an entire roster change.
The Oilers are believed to be looking for a top-two center, a young defenseman and another piece for Jordan Eberle.
To PHI: Eberle, Schultz
TO EDM: B. Shenn, L. Shenn, 1st 2015, 2nd 2016
To MTL: Yakupov, 4th 2015
To EDM: Eller, Tinordi, 2nd 2015
10 Dec 2014 05:15:38
no from philly, maybe for the MTL one.
Too much from Philly
So what you're saying is. Edm is going to draft another 1st overall and ride him right to the basement again. Cool
Habs better off keeping Eller and Tinordi than getting Yak
08 Dec 2014 02:23:16
Edm:desharnais, tokarski, bournival & emelin
Lol desharnais would get manhandled in the west. especially on a team like the oilers
Easy no from Edmonton.
Easy no from habs, desharnais isn't the best but is okay and puts up roughly 50 some points a year and toakarski is our futur after cary (then its fucale) and emelin is getteing better so I don't see this trade happenning
Too much for Eberle, take out Emelin and add Allen
Desharnais is okay but I think we have to keep galchenyuk plekanec and eller befor him. And for tokarski he is already 25years old so don't think he will stay the back up of carey all his career. Emelin is good but oilers need Dman. Mtl will be better with eberle
Eberle for Gallagher and Beaulieu
Gallagher has more value to Habs than Eberle, so Oils would need to add
08 Dec 2014 00:14:16
Bruins: lucic and soderberg
Oilers: Eberle + marnicin
Phili: couturier + coburn
Oilers: shultz and marnicin
Oilers: yak + Schultz
Sabres: hodgson + Myers
Oilers should wait till the deadline and trade Nikitin and Purcell for anything, even if oilers have to keep 20% of heir salary.
Oilers should keep on track and get 1st or 2nd overall picks.
2.Sign sekera or boychuk or green
3.Sign Foligno or Williams
That first one made me laugh. There is no way Boston ever talks trades to Edmonton again if that's what they offer.From what I have read on a number of different sites Edmonton wanted Lucic for Eberle but Boston was saying no.
08 Dec 2014 10:56:41
Yakupov straight up for Eller is a good joke as well
08 Dec 2014 18:58:36
I like yak, but he has not proven himself yet. And if he doesn't soon, oilers will get nothing for him. I hope they can sign him to a bridge contract.
Plus, the first trade, I meant to say Hall and not ebrle. Hall can get u lucic and soderberg.
if you meant hall that changes a lot of things in that first deal for sure
Hall can get u more than lucic and soderberg
09 Dec 2014 04:09:22
Maybe. But with lucic and soderberg, u get size and experience and skill. Plus, lucic is 26. He is young. Oilers need a shake up and so do the Bruins.
07 Dec 2014 08:07:31
WPG: E.Kane, Rights to Galiardi, 4th 2016
MTL: Eller, Bozon, Mccarron, Audette
Winnipeg doesn't really need a new 4th line centre , or a bunch of garbage prospects, why would winnipeg do this?
Jets need to add
^^^that 4th line center has more points than kane as well as your second line center scheifele, as for garbage prospects mccarron has one of the best points/game in ohl and is 6'5
McCarron will become a 4th Liner at best. Drafted purely because of his size
07 Dec 2014 18:13:39
lol if mccaron wast dominating juniors in his last year it'd be a definite concern, but him playing well is far from a huge possitive.
Lol,McCarron doesn't have one of points/game in the ohl , and yeah he's 6"5 and almost 20 years old playing against younger smaller players , no way Winnipeg does this deal , nothing the Jets need or want here.
Winnipeg says no easily. They would need more talent coming back. I would rather get one or two players with more talent than 4 that aren't as talented. I can't see Montreal landing a player like Kane without giving up more of their top end prospects or better roster players.
05 Dec 2014 23:47:34
Edmonton's season is over its obvious.
They can trade their UFA's and do something in free agency.
To Montreal: David Perron
To Edmonton: Lars Eller
I think they are pretty equal.
Lars Eller is having a better season.
David Perron has more salary.
David Perron is a UFA
Craig McT said they need to add a center.
And they want to move Perron
To Detroit: Jeff Petry
To EDM: 2015 3rd round pick, 2015 5th round pick
Petry will make a difference to Detroit as they need him. And are willing to 'overpay' for a player that is born near the area and is a UFA.If they don't like him, they can let him go. He is not a player that will chew up the cap. But will help Detroit.
Perron still has one more year of his contract
Perron is 26 , he's had 2 , 50 + pt seasons, 2 , 40 + pt seasons. Eller is 25 , he's never even gotten 40 pts in one season ever. Montreal definitely will be adding.
Thank you for telling me!
Perron is not UFA, either way, don't think Habs would ever consider this trade, Eller is locked for few years at an OK cap hit. maybe Desharnais to open centre spot for Gally, but Eller fits in nicely as 3rd line Habs pivot with decent size
@Streamer he 90% of those points on a good team,with good depth and a good goalie.
@NHLFunFacts , Perron had a career high 57 pts with Edmonton last year, and the last time I checked , Montreal has a good team, with good depth and a good goalie and Eller has way less points.
@steamer because Eller is not getting as much playing time as Perron.
@NHLFunFacts, you have to earn the right to get big minutes, I guess Eller hasn't done enough for Montreal's organization for him to get more ice time , Perron fought his way through a stacked Blues lineup and earned his minutes, this trade makes Edmonton worse, if that's possible.
04 Dec 2014 18:36:00
MTL: jiri tlusty
CAR: david desharnais, 3rd/ 2015
What do you think about it?
Im not sure carolina need a center but for montreal it will be a good trade I think
The habs won't do it
Why not? Desharnais is not a number one center & tlusty could play with plekanec
JT for DD is fair, Habs won't add a 2nd.
Habs wouldn't even give a 2nd straight up for JT, never mind adding a roster player
04 Dec 2014 18:35:18
As a hockey fan, I love the idea of Yakupov reuniting with Galchenyuk.
To EDM: Eller, Tinordi, Fucale
To MTL: Yakupov
As a pens fan I would like to see bortuzzo in the line up for good. Looks like an Orpik that can actually skate. his suspension was undeserved after Ovi did not get one on Leo Komarov.
To LAK: Martin
To PIT: Richards (30% Retained)
To ARI: Bennett, 1st 2015
To PIT: Boedker
@Cap'nCanada I completely agree about Bortuzzo. He is the perfect 3rd pairing guy who could take on 2nd pairing minutes if he had to. What do you think of Martin to Minny for maybe Nino? Martin goes home and we aquire a young guy who can score.
I think the first trade has value going both ways but for Pitts if they made that trade to get Boedker there is no way they would trade for Richards even with 30% retained they won't have the cap space going forward to have him. I think they would be smarter moving Martin for another dman with term if they already got another top 6 forward
Fucale=a futur for the habs
tinordi=a future for the habs
do u see where i'm getting @
Arizona trade Pittsburgh overpays.
04 Dec 2014 22:55:39
absolutely no chance AL is retaining salary on richards of they move him.
they're tight to the cap already and having a dead 2 mil there is beyond dumb.
Switch Tinordi with Galchenyuk
If Montreal has Galchenyuk going the other way, it would probably mean Eberle going the other. Or at least Yakupov+
Oils need to add, maybe Eberle
I will add a first pick by mtl and its an off (I think) to have Eberle to!!
Lol Eller = awesome. 27 gp. 11 pts and -6 yeah that's awesome.
02 Dec 2014 15:19:14
Who needs to add? How much
Plekanec is a better player but Schultz is way younger and has more upside . Montreal adds pick or prospect.
Oils need to add at least one good player the Habs would want to make a trade
02 Dec 2014 11:47:46
MTL: Reway, 2nd, 5th
Change Reway to Del la Rose , Thrower , Tinordi or Beaulieu. Anyone of these players just not Reway , he probably won't ever play the Nhl.
@steamer, Murray would love to get Jacob Del la Rose or Nathan Beaulieu and a 2nd for Chris Stewart. I will have test that trade.
Too much for Stewart, just the 5th rounder is enough
@sbr2017 , Yeah, Del la Rose and Beaulieu look like great prospects and Montreal probably wouldn't trade either in a deal for Stewart. How about.
Tinordi + 2nd or Thrower +2nd or unlikely Tinordi and Thrower.
I would do Tinardi. And a 2nd.
@Steamer I would do Tinordi & Thrower, never too many defensive prospects, Bergevin would not offer that much.
02 Dec 2014 03:52:11
To mtl: nikitin (half salary ratained)
To edm: tom gilbert
Both guys playing like absolute garbage and could use a change of scenery
More like Nikitin for a bag of pucks
Yeah! Wow is he pathetic and insanely slow! Dives instead of clobbering Reider! Do you think any of the other dmen (maybe schultz) would havve dove there? useless bag of garbage! Why is marincin down?
Habs say BIG NO
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