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01 Dec 2015 02:38:35
MTL: L. Eller, N. Juulsen, N. Sherback, 1st 2016


CLB: R. Johansen, K. Rychel, 4th 2016.

01 Dec 2015 05:14:48
Habs say OK, but make it a 2nd rounder

01 Dec 2015 07:06:50

30 Nov 2015 21:04:11
Mtl: 7th 2015
Dal: 7th 2015

A fun little bet between the gms to see who will finish higher in the standings and who will get rewrdedb.

30 Nov 2015 21:18:48
pretty lame reward.

30 Nov 2015 21:40:39
Keep you're picks you just lost Price long term.

30 Nov 2015 22:02:29
im sure stuff like this is jokingly proposed all the time, but you're totally lost if you think anything of the sort would ever actually happen.

30 Nov 2015 22:16:23
Simply genius.

01 Dec 2015 01:30:20
Actually it did Shankar in 1986 between the rangers and Quebec.

30 Nov 2015 04:45:41
Mtl: Delarose, 2nd, 2nd (buff)
Win: Ladd

Mtl: Plekanec, 1st
NJ: Henrique


Not a bad playoff 1st line


30 Nov 2015 05:18:52
NJ wants plekanec why?
WPG wants to take that trash for their captain why?

30 Nov 2015 06:39:38
De la Rose is good but it'd take more than him and 2 seconds for ladd.

30 Nov 2015 16:57:06
Lol Habs fans at it again.

30 Nov 2015 20:07:38
I agree with showtime. Look at the most recent trades over the last couple years involving top-six forward UFAs. Vermette got a 1st and good prospect and Ladd is much better.

30 Nov 2015 20:35:10
@shanker do your research before you comment. Delarose was 34th overall in 2013 and qas considered one of the best defensive forwards in the draft. Along with 2 2nd round picks, one from buffalo via Minnesota and a Montreal one, 3 2nd round picks at the deadline for a potential ufa for winnipeg is a good deal, and we know how bergevin is good at making deals. Just do some backup search before you deem everything "trash" just because you don't know about it.

30 Nov 2015 22:09:55
oh it apears i don't need to do research, since you just did it for me.

1. draft position is meaningless years after being drafted
2. de l rose will be a 3rd liner, like you say, defensive forward. nothing special there
3. 2nd round picks are far more often nothing than they are something. you might want to do your research there.
4. no, 3 2nd round picks for ladd is not a good deal.
5. your arbitrary "bergevin is a good negotiator" claim has no standing
6. you, my friend, seem to be the one that needs to do some background research.

there, i even nicely organized it into a set of points for you.

30 Nov 2015 22:23:01
Actually Piccante it is not a good proposal for Ladd. Ladd will go for a better prospect and better picks. Doesn't matter how good Bergevin is at "making trades". Cheveldayoff is not stupid and won't trade his captain for that.

01 Dec 2015 00:30:19
So according to you a seventh round pick is an over payment for buff as he was drafted in the eighth round

Draft position is irrelevant.

01 Dec 2015 01:29:52
Jets don't need 2nd round picks and those pick don't have a whole lot of value unless there traded at the draft. They'd just get a whole lot worse after that trade.

29 Nov 2015 19:31:43

Mtl: Hossa
Chi: Gilbert, 5th

Hossa is sign till 2021 for 5,75 mil/year
Not even sure bergevin would do it, because it is a bad contrat for a declining 36 years old, with 10 pts this years.

29 Nov 2015 20:19:06

29 Nov 2015 20:34:37
Chicago then offers Rosival and a 5th for Pacioretty

Chicago laughs and hangs up. Seriously this isn't even close.

29 Nov 2015 21:00:48
JF, hossa s sign until he as 42 years old, for an average of 5+ millions per year, if you think it is not worth moving is contract before he loses all of is value, then keep it, and you culd play him on a line with bickell, and lose panarin because is a free agents. Remember sharp and saad?

29 Nov 2015 21:06:32
Come on man. that's pathetic

hossa is a grizzled vet who had 61 pts last year, is an awesome guy in the dressing room

how can a 5th dman and a 5th get you hossa

think it through.

29 Nov 2015 21:18:13
Oops almost forgot.
Habs add, maybe Price?

29 Nov 2015 22:00:22
just as an aside, just because hossa is signed until he's 42 doesn't mean he'll be playing until he's 42 . also, his cap won't count when he does retire because he signed the contract before he was 35, once he's gone, so is his cap charge.

29 Nov 2015 22:32:03
Thank you shankar.

29 Nov 2015 22:41:53
Add kane/Towes.

29 Nov 2015 22:47:54
This has got to be one of the worst trades I've seen.

30 Nov 2015 00:37:25
Also Hossa is one of the best defensive forwards out there.

30 Nov 2015 00:54:57
Actually they won't lose Panarin and they'll keep Hossa. They can have Bickell, Rosival, and others of the salary cap and have Toews and Kane locked up long term. Plus the cap should be larger by then. Plus like Shankar said, the contract isn't in the books until he is 42.

30 Nov 2015 14:23:34
Really? Really? That's like Bickell value. You'd have to add a lot! Terrible trade for hossa.

01 Dec 2015 05:17:18
Habs pass, Hossa is over the hil

01 Dec 2015 06:35:00
The Sun and Pluto are closer together than this trade is of ever happening.

29 Nov 2015 04:50:33
mtl- gilbert-juulsen-scherbak-1st pick 2016

clb- johansen

mtl- eller-tinordi-2nd pick 2016





29 Nov 2015 07:02:00
I actually like those trades, the value is there, can't decide if the Johansen trade is fair or an overpayment by Habs cause of Johansen's bad attitude. wouldn't work cap wise but most trades on here don't anyways plus Juulsen/Scherbak aren't NHL ready yet (maybe another year or two) so that might be a problem for Colombus who would be missing a #1 center.

29 Nov 2015 08:38:17
Johansen has a bad attitude?

29 Nov 2015 13:53:27
Getting better but still not enough for Elite players.

29 Nov 2015 15:37:35
I like the trades, good value. Realistic.

Though with the lines, isn't Byron a center not defense?

29 Nov 2015 16:54:30
Twitter, blogs and basically everyone whos been covering him since he signed. he's cocky and hard-headed (which is the case for most nhl stars his age), althought don't think itd be a deal breaker i still think that's something teams are taking in consideration.

29 Nov 2015 17:07:20
I wouldn't care if he has a bad attitude. He can put the puck in the net, that's all that counts here.

29 Nov 2015 17:33:27
He's no Kadri or E Kane, and certainly doesn't seem as moody or heated as Hall. I'd say by that he is essentially a young hockey player. Hardly leverage there.

29 Nov 2015 17:58:40
overpayment for hammiuis,

maybe Tinordi and 4th rounder

29 Nov 2015 18:20:27
@Boris. Habs add, maybe Price?

29 Nov 2015 21:11:01
Why do Habs need Hamhuis. ? ? As far as the Johanson trade.. it's pretty good.. but is he really worth 4 peices. ? And 3 of them being first rounders?

29 Nov 2015 22:33:44
Hamhuis doesn't get enough love on this site. He'd be the 3rd best defender on the Habs.

30 Nov 2015 03:26:33
Hamhuis would be 6-7 th d-man on Habs, not worth picking up

30 Nov 2015 05:49:25
first of all cap issue i think on the johansen trade habs get 1.2 M over then with hamuis 0.150 over and habs have 2,4 M in cap space so it work

hammuis won olympic in vancouver in 2010 and IMO is impact on the habs team could be similar too what petry bring to us right now

and the * meant scratch not really that byron would play defense.

28 Nov 2015 19:53:12

MTL: jurco
DET: Gilbert + 5th

Mtl gets a good prospect
Det gets a righhanded defenseman, with great puck moving skills.

28 Nov 2015 21:01:39
Or how about you send something better then a 5-6 defender and a 5th for one of the Wings better prospects.

28 Nov 2015 21:21:02
Jurco is not a premium prospect, 11 goals in more than 100 nhl games, for a 22 years old, going up and down ahl, nhl.

29 Nov 2015 06:07:28
Why do the Habs need to get Jurco??? "Ghetto is a much better prospect

28 Nov 2015 06:44:24
Although the Habs backup goalie has more wins than the entire Leafs team, they should find Condon a new backup for the month Price is out.
How about Tokarski and Thrower to LAK for Budaj.

28 Nov 2015 10:14:26
Overpayment for a 3rd string.

28 Nov 2015 12:10:19
Tokarski is better than or equal to Budaj no?

28 Nov 2015 18:08:26
Habs need to add, maybe Subban.

28 Nov 2015 21:04:05
Didn't Tokarski already outplay Budaj? Which is why Budaj isn't on the Canadiens.

29 Nov 2015 06:11:48
Habs traded Budaj's contract, Tokarski was a cheaper option then to back-up to best player in the world ... now Budaj makes the NHL min, even less than Tokarski who has lost his way... if Price is out longterm, Habs better off calling up Fucale who's doing really well as a rookie pro with the AHL Ice ..

anyway, I was jut kidding about the Buj

29 Nov 2015 21:53:26
😂😂😂 Budaj is 4th string in LA, brhind Quick, Enroth and Bartosak.

26 Nov 2015 04:04:04
EDM- Eberle
MTL- Beaulieu, Tinordi, 2016 1st

COL- Duchene
OTT- Zibanejad, 2016 2nd, 2016 3rd

CBJ- Johansen
DAL- 2016 1st, Honka, Johns

CHI- Daley
TOR- 2nd 2016, 6th 2016.

26 Nov 2015 04:11:25
All the teams on the bottem of your trades (with the exception of Toronto) is a massive underpayment. Those are top line NHL players, you have to give to get.

26 Nov 2015 04:52:00
Beaulieu is worth more to Habs than Eberle

26 Nov 2015 07:21:49
Haha oh Borris.

26 Nov 2015 13:44:56
good one boris. good one. (in the Kessel whiny/nasally voice in that clip at the winter classic)

26 Nov 2015 13:56:33
If I was Chicago I'd take that and run for the hills.

28 Nov 2015 02:26:59
Eberle is soft. Beaulieu has way more upside. Pass please.

29 Nov 2015 06:16:12
Beaulieu, a d-man. has more points than Eberle (who's forward) this year

Habs GM would get roasted by Habs fans if made that trade...

Eberle is fragile and has huge longterm contract Habs don't want or need...

I'd rather trade for the Yak, not saying habs should, but he's better $$$/value/potential than Eberle ... but still wouldn't include Beaulieu whos now top 4 and then wil be top 2 d-man with Habs for many years

26 Nov 2015 01:47:59
Report today saying that flyers are testing simmonds and couturier on the market. What would it take to get sean to Montreal?

Mtl: Delarose, andrighetto, 2nd +++

Suggest thoughts.

26 Nov 2015 07:22:23
More than just spare parts.

26 Nov 2015 17:03:33
Delarose, andrighetto, 2nd +++ Habs need make cap room, so add Eller & Semin

26 Nov 2015 18:51:47
Coots isn't getting traded for a Cap dump. he's signed long term on a cap friendly deal and he's only 22. He is the best defensive centre under 25 in the NHL, and has the capability to turn into a perennial Selke Winner, he just needs to blossom offensively in the NHL, he was a decent offensive player in Juniors putting up 96 points in back to back seasons. In my opinion he is still a prospect. No way he is getting traded for that garbage.

25 Nov 2015 21:29:56
to Mtl:
Dan Hamhuis
Radim Vrbata

to Van:
Mike McCarron
Jarred Tinordi
2nd Round pick

to Clb:
Chris Tanev
Nick Jensen
Cole Cassels

to Van:
Ryan Johansen.

25 Nov 2015 21:55:18
1st trades not terrible make it a 1st instead tho.

25 Nov 2015 22:39:37
Not enough for Hamhuis+Vrbata

Not enough for Ryan Johansen.

26 Nov 2015 03:31:35
Not bad. I'd want a 1st in the Habs trade. Nucks would need to add someone better then Jensen and maybe a draft pick?

26 Nov 2015 03:58:28
I think McCarron is close to being untouchable. The Habs keep looking for big centres, don't think they're letting this one go before they try him out. The future would look great with Gally and big Mike down the middle for years to come!

26 Nov 2015 04:43:12
no way Habs give away their top prospect ( McCarron) for some UFA rentals, plus Hamhuis is over rated and isn't good enough for Habs top 4... Habs pass

Jarred Tinordi / 2nd Round pick for Vrbata is OK, (but with 'Ghetto replacing Semin in top 9, not much room ...)

27 Nov 2015 06:24:23
I think McCarron is getting overvalued by Habs fans. I know he's doing well right now but many aren't sure if he's a top 6 guy.

I also don't see how true fans dismiss this type of deal because guys are 'UFAs'. Sorry, but a contender will get whatever it needs to increase their chances of winning the Cup. Hamhuis and Vrbata would help a Cup run and both have tons of playoff experience (which is also key) .

Also, there is no way the Canucks deal Vrbata for Tinordi and a 2nd. Tinordi can't start for the Habs and has been a healthy scratch the entire season. I don't know what happened there. He had upside. Now he's a project and a gamble. Tinordi has not shown enough to warrant being in the top 6 with the Habs D and shouldn't fetch a big return in any trade. The Canucks need size on D and would buy low on Tinordi, I'm sure.

29 Nov 2015 02:36:54
Make it Juulsen instead of Tinordi and the rest the same and I am game. COuld even sub out Mccarron and make 2nd a 1st/3rd or 4th.

29 Nov 2015 02:57:49
I would be happy with Vrbata+Hammer for Juulsen/1st/2nd or 3rd.

29 Nov 2015 06:20:27
is he 1st line or 2nd line or 3 rd line NHL? we'll see, but no way are Habs trading McCarron him now before he plays with them, especially for a bunch depth players, he's their top prospect and will play in NHL before season is up

25 Nov 2015 13:14:20
Lots of interest in Johansen out of Columbus. Cap hit 4 mill.

CBJ: Johansen,
MTL: Tinordi, Gilbert, 1st rounder, Hudon

Reasoning CBJ: Johansen has worn out his welcome with CBJ, he's not happy, demoted to 4th line, needs change of scenery. And let's face it CBJ is already 7 points out of playoffs and are going nowhere. Time to retool.
They need some young dmen, prospects, and picks..

Reasoning MTL: Need top six forward. He is a right hand shot that can take Gallagher's spot on the top line for now, and then drop onto Galchenyuk's wing when Gallagher comes back.
Tinrodi isn't getting playing time. Gilbert is a throw in for cap reasons. CBJ can flip him to a contender at the deadline and pick up a 2nd rounder.
Habs have an extra 2nd rounder this year so can afford to give up a first. Hudon stings but you have to give quality to get quality.

25 Nov 2015 13:22:52
this trade will be easy for columbus if this is the package they get from all teams because it be a hell know

columbus probley Want baueliea fucule McCarron 2 1st and maybe more this is a 23 year old top center we are talking about here.

25 Nov 2015 15:08:44
Hockeyfan, you think Johansen is worth 4 first rounders? That's steep for an underperformer.

25 Nov 2015 15:46:39
the only one that has done anything is Beaulieu. McCarron is a 2nd line center at best. I don't believe in fucule at all I think he is a ahl goalie and Montreal is good enough the picks are pretty much 2nd rounder they be so late.

but Montreal gets a 23 year old number 1 center that they need you have to give up pieces to get those

so yes I do.

25 Nov 2015 16:08:27
LOL if you think that package could get you a potential elite centerman you need to give your head a shake! Under-performing or not he still has a ton of potential.

25 Nov 2015 17:38:18
If the habs are giving up some of our better young players, I'd rather try for giroux.

25 Nov 2015 17:53:34
you Montreal fans are just as silly as us leaf fans geroux trade conversation starts with galchynck and you add from there.

25 Nov 2015 19:47:28
Would have to give up a lot for Johansen .. Galchenyuk and 2nd... And then that would probably come back to bite the Habs hard .. so I jus don't think it's going to be possible.

25 Nov 2015 22:43:12
Tinordi has no value

Gilbert is a 5-6 defender

Hudson is an aight prospect

That late 1st round pick doesn't cut it.

25 Nov 2015 22:58:01
Beaulieu-gilbert- eller -1st pick


26 Nov 2015 04:45:54
Habs are not trading Beaulieu, becoming a stud on D

24 Nov 2015 02:01:42
mtl- beaulieu-semin (cap dump) -DLR-1st pick

phi- simmonds

mtl-tinordi-eller-2nd pick

van- hamuis

mtl-emelin- flynn- 3rd pick 2017

clb- hartnell






24 Nov 2015 18:46:34
I like it why not.

25 Nov 2015 02:53:45
hartnell? no thanks
hamuis? no thanks,
Habs better of keeping beaulieu

23 Nov 2015 22:22:12
Elliote Friedman saying in his 30 for 30 that the habs are willing to go all in for a shot at the cup:

Mtl: Emelin, Beaulieu, Delarose, Hudon, 2nd, 2nd (buff)

Win: Ladd, Buff


Same package for:

Phi: Couturier, Simmonds.

23 Nov 2015 22:59:24
Yes. Because a Bottom 2 dman with 4 million cap, a top 4 but no more dman, a 3rd liner (at best), a throw in and two seconds will get you not only Ladd, but Buff too.

That won't even get you one of them. Start with 1st + De La Rose + Good Prospect for one, and add from there to get the second player.

Then you have the oddasity to throw in that Flyers trade. If the flyers took that, i'd like whatever they were smoking. Good lord, that Flyers one is even more brutal than the Winnipeg one.

24 Nov 2015 00:20:04
That's all in? Absolutely brutal for Winnipeg and Philadelphia.

24 Nov 2015 00:50:36
I agree with Jordiebenn, in what way is that bits n pieces package from the Habs considered going "all in"?

24 Nov 2015 02:07:15
"Hans going all in for a cup". First name I see in the trade MTL is sending out: emelin. Lool.

25 Nov 2015 03:00:12
Habs pass, they don't want to break up a winning lineup...

Habs GM will get the extra RW they need by using Tinordi & a pick

plus 'Ghetto looks sharp right next to Gally & Eller , and the other Gally will be back in 6 weeks from broken finger

Top tier teams like Habs don't need to make desperation moves...

Habs GM picked up Petry & Vanek past 2 sesaons without giving up any roster players or a 1st rounders, expect MB will do the same this year

26 Nov 2015 04:48:47
Habs R going for the Cup by trading away 2 of their top 5 d-man and getting no D back... makes sense... NOT!

21 Nov 2015 21:33:54
After the montreal brooklyn game, there was talk of a deal between the habs and oilers:

Mtl: Beaulieu, Desharnais, Dietz, 2nd (buff)
Edm: Eberle

With Pacioretty itd put them over the top.

21 Nov 2015 21:49:42
Yay everything Edmonton is looking for!

21 Nov 2015 21:51:12
lol good joke.

21 Nov 2015 23:37:35
Eberle is a good player. But I don't see it happening .. and I'm not sure if want to give up Beaulieu. He's getting better every year..and he will take over for Markov soon.

22 Nov 2015 02:08:47
Not a chance in hell from Edmonton.

22 Nov 2015 02:58:47
Habs pass: Beaulieu will be more of an impact player than Eberle (come the next playoffs & down the road)

22 Nov 2015 15:01:03
Another quantity for quality trade? Really? Edmonton Passes, 28 other teams would give a better package for a player of Eberle's stature.

22 Nov 2015 16:33:48
Montreal won't trade Beaulieu. I do like Eberle and Galchenyuk needs support. Just not at that price.

23 Nov 2015 14:25:25
I like eberle .

There is no way you can compare him to desharnais . but.

12 points difference of the course of a season in both 13-14 and 14-15. at 2.5 mil MORE per year that works out to 208,000 per point!

Then there is Beaulieu's potential.

We have seen the best of eberle. We haven't seen the best of beaulieu. so sorry Edm. keep your highly thought of (and priced) talent that doesn't get you much in terms of playoffs.

20 Nov 2015 21:30:54
Montreal : Tinordi + 2nd 2016

Colombus : Rychel.

21 Nov 2015 01:01:50
Not enough for Rychel.

21 Nov 2015 01:32:11
As much as I like tinordi, Montreal adds.

22 Nov 2015 02:59:05
fair trade

23 Nov 2015 06:52:53
Rychel hasn't really proved anything just yet, i could switch the 2nd round pick to Buffalo's 2nd that we acquired through the Gorges trade or switch it to a 4th and add a prospect like Bozon/Carr with Tinordi. Other than that i think it adresses the need of both teams, no point in making the trade more compliacted.

20 Nov 2015 00:47:39
Chicago: Bickell, Daley, danault, 3rd
Ottawa: Ceci, pageau

Ottawa: weircoch, lazar, 1st
Colorado: duchane, semiens

Chicago: morin
Montreal: 4th

Islanders: hamonic
Winnipeg: buff, 2nd

Ottawa: Anderson
Edmonton: scrivens, 2nd round pick.

20 Nov 2015 05:15:44
You had me up until the Edmonton-Ottawa deal. Not a good one for Ottawa.

20 Nov 2015 07:00:03
I agree with seabass2011.

20 Nov 2015 08:34:40
None of them are very good IMO.

25 Nov 2015 03:04:24
Morin? why would Habs give up a draft pick for an AHLer (he couldn't crack Habs lineup unless they had 4 to 6 forwards injured, even then...)

maybe something like Thrower for Morin, but not even sure Habs should do that trade...

19 Nov 2015 22:13:11
Montreal: Jarred Tinordi

Colorado: Duncan Siemens and 6th round pick

Both defenders are having a hard time cracking their respective lineups and a change of scenery might be best.

20 Nov 2015 00:29:51
I'd take out the draft pick and do straight trade.

21 Nov 2015 04:12:34
Habs pass, Tinordi can actually play @ NHL level (has 50+ NHL games), Habs would be better off just taking the pick, Avs can keep DS... mind you, Habs GM will get much more than a 6th for Tinordi when/if he trades him

19 Nov 2015 20:55:51
Mtl: Sherback, Delarose, emelin, 2nd (buff)
Col: Duchene, Siemens.

19 Nov 2015 21:34:34
Siemens is a complete flop
If we can agree that Emelin is a decent 4th d with grit, then it Seems fair for Duchene IMO.

19 Nov 2015 22:36:02
Yeah but it isn't fair for Duchene. Start with a top 6 center (don't see one in here) a top prospect (Sherback) and a 1st or an equal caliber of defenceman and then you get Colorado's attention.

19 Nov 2015 08:53:41
I know a trade between Toronto and Montreal doesn't happen often but I thought this could help both teams.

JVR for McCarron, Kassian and Semin

I think Montreal is in a win now mode with Price in his prime. JVR brings another big goal scorer to their top 6 on a good contract. This doesn't affect their current roster either. I don't see their 3rd and 4th liners producing like this all year and they finished 20 something in goals for last year.
For some reason I'd like to see Kassian in Toronto. At least he could bring some grit and possibly live up to his potential. I think Shanahan and Babcock can straighten him out. Probably his last chance at an NHL career. I've mentioned before that I don't know much about prospects so you tell me if McCarron is the real deal or not. Maybe another prospect instead would be a better idea. Semin is just for cap reasons.
Is the value fair?

19 Nov 2015 13:22:20
3 useless heavy bags 2 of them poison, for a 30 goal scorer with a golden contract. Post seems too long for a troll, that's unfortunate. Can you believe the Habs gave up a pick along with Prust for Drunk Krashian?

19 Nov 2015 13:45:36
@cosain Habs received the pick in the Prust deal.

McCarron is the big center Montreal have always wanted and he's progressing way faster than expected. However, to get something, you got to give something. I guess at this point that it's pretty much McCarron for JVR. IMO, Toronto would ask for more.

19 Nov 2015 16:48:39
This is 100% McCaron for JVR. Leafs pass

Kassian is in rehab and Semin is a future KHL player.

What an awful proposal.

20 Nov 2015 04:17:37
My apologies, I thought this McCarron guy was good. I realize Kassian's problems but sometimes it takes a kick in the ass to wake up a youngster. JVR will probably be on the decline before the leafs contend. I'm not a troll, just try not to over value leaf players.

21 Nov 2015 04:21:09
Habs pass, McCarron will be a huge impact player, probably by these coming playoffs (something Leafs don't know much about won't for another 40 years)

maybe Thomas, Tinordi and Sherback for JVR

18 Nov 2015 21:57:51
mtl - tinordi, semin, dlr, 2nd pick 2016

nyi - nielsen, pullock

eller, nielsen, galchenyuk.

19 Nov 2015 04:35:24
"Hahahahahahaha" - Islanders.

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