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17 Sep 2018 21:02:26
Calgary Flames trade (C) Sam Bennett and (D) Rasmus Andersson to Montreal Canadiens in exchange for (LW) Arturri Lehkonen, (2019) 3rd-Round Pick & a (2020) Conditional 2nd-Round Pick.

(If Bennett staples 40+ points in 2018-19 then the 2nd turns into a 1st Round Pick)

Projected Forwards

CGY -

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - E Lindholm
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - J Neal
A Lehkonen - M Jankowski - M Frolik
A Czarnik - D Ryan - B Pollock

MTL -

J Drouin - S Bennett - T Tatar
M Domi - P Danault - C Hudon
P Byron - N Suzuki - J Armia
A Shaw - T Plekanec - N Sherbak

18 Sep 2018 01:05:31
Bennet is a third line center at best, I understan Montreal is rebuilding, but you still shouldn’t have him on the first line.

18 Sep 2018 02:25:47
That condition is brutal, Bennett should not be getting anything near a 1st, however I could see Montreal taking that and like leaf said he’s not going to be your first line center lol.

18 Sep 2018 06:16:40
No way should Habs trade this years 1st rounder. may end up being that Hughes kid. think they will battle Sens for the best odds at it.
Wouldn't be opposed to Bennett . but for the right price. but, I'm not really sure what his value is.? Is he still a prospective top 6? Or, is this who is is. a 10 goal 25 to 30 point 3rd liner.?

18 Sep 2018 22:02:42
Yeah, that condition is bad lol Sens get a 1st if the sharks get 9 years instead of 1 year of a superstar Dman. I get that using the Sens trade returns as a barometer is not ideal, but a forward hitting 40 points does not get you an added 1st rounder. If the habs don’t feel like Bennet could put up 40 points, they just don’t touch the initial trade to begin with. Anyone taking Bennett at this point is banking on a new situation sparking that offensive potential, not willing to pay future assets for him reaching the level of mediocre.

17 Sep 2018 17:36:22
CGY - S Bennett & M Jankowski
MTL - A Lehkonen, 2019 3rd-Round Pick & 2020 1st-Round Pick

EDM - Jesse Puljujärvi & Milan Lucic
MTL - Victor Mete & Nikita Sherbak

J Drouin - M Jankowski - J Puljujärvi
T Tatar - P Danault - M Domi
M Lucic - S Bennett - C Hudon
P Byron - T Plekanec - A Shaw

17 Sep 2018 19:06:17
I think habs take their chances with their 1st and 3rd round picks than settling on Jankowski as a 1st line centre. Jankowski and Bennett are decent middle of the pack players, habs have those. They will keep the picks and try to find elite players.

18 Sep 2018 13:56:37
Montreal should definitely keep their picks cause they're going to stink, but I think jankowski is better than most would think, got 17 goals in 72 games as a rookie playing 3rd-4th line minutes.

18 Sep 2018 22:04:18
No way from Montreal on both.

15 Sep 2018 21:50:22
Mtl- weber-tatar

Tor- nylander-kadri

Mtl- price-byron


Fla- mathesson-bjustad-luongo

16 Sep 2018 02:07:09
toronto says no in the first one and i think the second one is a poor one from montreal's standpoint.

16 Sep 2018 03:05:08
That is horrifyingly bad for Toronto.

16 Sep 2018 07:10:49
But vbb you've been so high praise for Weber market haven't you. Legit #1 D man and all, tops in the league.

16 Sep 2018 12:25:00
I love Weber but not at the Price of Nylander and espically not Kadri. Tatar has zero value to the leafs.

16 Sep 2018 17:15:03
How does Tatar have 0 value to the leafs?!?!

18 Sep 2018 16:13:27
He still brings 20-25 goals and at under 5 million you would think he was worth something to the leads lol.

10 Sep 2018 11:26:55
Suzuki and Tatar for Patches.

Def more than I could have ever imagined for Patches. that's Suzuki + 1st + 2nd + 3rd + 2nd, altho Tatar ain't worth all that now.

MTL makes a very good deal imo, and Tatar could easily be shipped off at the deadline.

This is the side of McPhee that Vegas has to be wary about. he's super hasty. and I feel that this could bite him badly, like with Forsberg/ Erat.

10 Sep 2018 12:21:11
And a 2nd round pick.

10 Sep 2018 12:57:01
There is also some cap retention by both teams this year is a wash pretty much but Vegas retains 500 k each of the last 2 years on tater contract.

10 Sep 2018 13:28:31
Bergevin did well, I’ll give him that. Tatar was apparently a must go, salary and roster spot wise, so it’s esentially Suzuki and a 2nd for patches with a bit of retention. Good return for a guy that it was pretty public he wasn’t going to be back.

10 Sep 2018 15:58:44
Not to bad. Tatar can probably score 20 to 25 this season, Really hope Suzuki turns into a top 6 player. , any of you guys back East see him play much in the OHL? Any feedback on him?

10 Sep 2018 16:02:43
I think it's a good return probably slightly more then I expected. suzuki was Vegas 2nd best prospect IMO and tater should be able to at least replace the 17 goals pacioretty scored last year and they get another decent draft pick. Suzuki scored 100 points last year on a somewhat defensive team. I think 72 of his points were primary and the next closest point total on his team was 69 I believe. Has good speed and can play in all situations can play center but I think he will be winger when he turns pro.

10 Sep 2018 16:05:46
Apparently the trade is contingent on patch signing "long term " in Vegas.

10 Sep 2018 16:06:21
Also jim tater still has value as we'll he just couldn't fit in with Vegas I'm sure if the habs decided to trade him again they could get something useful in return especially at 4.8 mil preseason instead of 5.3. He might never get what Vegas paid for him again. But I think he could still get a 2nd and a3rd right now at least.

10 Sep 2018 16:58:35
Good trade for the Habs. Flip Tatar at the trade deadline for picks or prospect then it becomes a great trade for the re-building Habs.

10 Sep 2018 17:56:48
what are you talking about with all the pick crap

You got Suzuki who isn't even a top 50 prospect in most top 50 propsects. He hit thirty in 1. A 2nd round pick and thomas tatar

for

A signed patches. That haul is underwhelming

What happened to the 1st, top c prospect and a good nhl player for a rental with 1.5 years left.

I think berg did get a good prospect but his super high expectations soured a lot of teams on patches and basically made him settle for that package. Not very good.

ROR got a 1st, 2nd, Tage thompson, Sobotka, Berglund.

Patches got 2nd suzuki, tatar

MTL should have gotten more for a signed patches.

10 Sep 2018 18:42:20
A lot of people are actually saying Montreal got an underwhelming return. Which I agree a bit, but I also think that was the best Montreal was going to get.

10 Sep 2018 19:14:49
It's more then fair IMO. But like everything else everyone won't be pleased with it . If the habs had got mcdavid for patches there would be some complaining that we took back too big of a cap hit. nick suzuki is on every top 50 prospect list that holds any merit. He's a real good prospect on top of that we get a consistent 20 goal scorer on a not too bad contract and a 2nd in the 45 to 55 range. I'd say that's pretty good for a player who svored 17 gòals last year. O reilly didn't have a down year if he did he wouldn't have got as much either on top of that he was already signed long term and he is a center. I hope your not trying to imply max could have got o Reilly cause I'm pretty sure habs offered that deal and buffalo said no.

10 Sep 2018 19:43:58
Idk how people here can say he got an underwhelming return imo.

In general, our trade evaluations were that Patches value had dipped and would get a 1st and a meh prsopect. He got Suzuki, Tatar who can probably get a 1st if he bounces back and a 2nd. And Suzuki is a good prospet too - and he plays a position that Montreal is desperately in need of. Maybe I’m an extra bit high about Suzuki, but I’m the fathest from a Hab fan and I think Bergevin may have saved his own a** and job with this.

10 Sep 2018 20:04:02
O’Rielly is not a fair comparison at all. Different position, player type, age, contract situation etc.

10 Sep 2018 22:16:37
Very underwhelming especially now considering its 5 years of him. He's apperently one of the super elite scorers of the last decade or so, 5 years of him should have gotten more, no?

10 Sep 2018 23:25:42
Not with how he played last year. value went down.
I'm happy with the return, wish the 2nd was a 1st but it's all good.
To be honest, I'd really like to see patches playing along side Stasney. Unfortunately it will be on a different team, but he has never had a reliable center to play alongside. Vegas made some great upgrades this off-season.

10 Sep 2018 23:37:24
I think it is fair value for both sides. Habby you’re right about not pleasing everyone. However, “ that’s pretty good for a guy who scored 17 goals last year” is different from what you would have said yesterday. Is Pacioretty on the decline now that he’s gone or is he still the 30+ goal scoring leader that you thought he was for years?

10 Sep 2018 23:56:11
It’s definitely a different tone. When I would say he would not get a great return coming off a bad year, I was told I was wrong. Now I admit this is better than I thought they would get, but this is what I’ve said about when a guy leaves, your opinion changes in a hurry. It did with galchenyuk too. For the last 6 months while surrounded by rumours he’s been “a 35 goal scorer” and you ignored people saying he’s only as good as last year unfortunately. Now it’s “good for a guy with 17 goals”.

11 Sep 2018 00:11:23
As a Habs fan. and Patches fan, I'll say he just had a down year. I don't know if he (or almost anyone) was able to take the pressure of being a Habs captain, especially on one of the worst seasons in the franchise history . He gets a fresh start in Vegas, with a lot less pressure. . he doesn't have to be the main kog in the offense. this may he the season he finally hits 40 IMO. and I hope he does. was a class act in Montreal, and a really good player for the team.

11 Sep 2018 00:26:04
Actually leafs 17 it's more then I expected or would have paid. Don't lump me in the delusional category. And it has nothing to do with being or not being the player he was. All though even at 4 years Vegas is still taking a chance on him. Also at 7 mil in Vegas apparently montreal would have had to pay 9.5 per year to match it and he wasn't worth that in his best year. i liked pacioretty as a player and actually stood up for him on times when he slumped every year in the playoffs but knowing now for sure which I suspected all along that he asked for a trade last year really makes m think when the going gets tough he would sooner disappear then face it. that being said he was good for the habs except for last year when he was awful but it was time to move on I'm glad they didn't resign him to a huge contract and I'm super glad they got this good of a return.

11 Sep 2018 00:27:30
But in case your referring to my comparison of him with simmonds I still think he has slightly more value then simmonds.

11 Sep 2018 02:04:12
The reason I brought up the 17 goal season jim was cause that's what most of you guys were tossing around. Pretty good return for a 17 goal scorer hey. Also a lot of you said he wouldn't get much of anything in return cause bergevin wasn't dealing from a position of strength. pretty good return IMO I'm quite pleased with this patch could score 40 with Vegas and suzuki may never pan out but this is still a good return at the moment. One of the main reasons other then patch was playing hardball and would have never signed here for 4 years 28 mil is he doesn't really fit in with the type of forward group the habs are putting together now. They are going younger and faster up front and eventhough he's still good he's getting older and slower. fits in better with Vegas as most of there team is over the age of 25.

11 Sep 2018 02:06:50
Essentially it should be good for everyone involved. Less pressure on pacioretty and a fresh start should help him regain his form habs get a good prospect a decent pick and a player with some skill who will out score patches totals from last year that they can keep or potentially trade again.

11 Sep 2018 04:21:02
I was referring to every habs fan saying he is a 30+ goal scoring leader. Not just you. One bad season surrounded by all the controversy and now he’s a 17 goal scorer. I’m guessing he bounces back but who knows. I think it was a good deal for Montreal, especially if Suzuki turns out to be good. For the record, I’d take Simmonds in a heart beat and I stayed out of that conversation.

11 Sep 2018 14:23:41
i don't like that vegas gave up suzuki in the deal, i liked him as a prospect but for a player of caliber of patches you need to give up a big piece, so i understand. it fit bot team's needs and montreal could be dangerous down the middle in a few years once their center prospects develop. good trade for both teams.

11 Sep 2018 18:46:53
Good trade for both teams right now. Give it a few years and Montreal could be the real winners depending on how Suzuki develops, who that 2nd round pick is, and either how Tatar does or what they get for him if traded.

12 Sep 2018 09:22:46
Mostly what i was trying to state is that Patches was suppose to, (By habs fans and sports Analyst) haul in way more than a 40-60 ranked prospect a 27 year old 15-20goal scorer (who is not worth a 1st unles 50% retained and i still don't see people doing that) and a 2nd in the 50 - 62 range.

The expectations for patches last year at deadline was (using blues as examples)

Thomas, 1st rnd pick and a roster player or
Kyrou, Kostin 1st roster

LA
Vilardi tofolli +

There was a lot of crazy rumors. There were several Articles that sports writers were writing about getting robert thomas. It was crazy and out of control.

Now you get Suzuki a 2nd and tatar and your ok with that. I think its a little more back peddling like Buffalo did with ROR and less accepting an underwhelming haul.

12 Sep 2018 15:00:32
We'll redwing you can be a fool and believe everything the media says or you can look at it realistically . If you believe the report la offered vilardi toffoli and their 1st I think you would have to be a fool. And even still if this trade happened there would be some who would still say it wasn't enough. Plus the blues said last year they were not trading thomas or kyrou so both those rumors are out the window. The habs got a consistent 20 goal man a top 30 to 40 prospect IMO and a 2nd which I feel will be around 50th . Even if pacioretty gets back to 30 goals that's still a good return. Let me ask you this patches at 7 mil scores 30 and tater at 4.8 scores 22 in a cap world wouldn't that be close to even?

12 Sep 2018 19:34:49
Call me a fool then because the expectations from fans and media had you getting a kings ransom. You got pretty much nothing. A cap dump due tatars high salary for his production a crappy second pick and suzuki who is even ranked in most top fifty prospects. I am not trying to knock you Suzuki is a good looking younbg player but the pick at 50-62 is not looking good.

Shattenkirk got a 1st a c/ lw in Zach sanford who actually played in the playoffs and was pretty good till injury and another pick 2nd round conditional pick.

That seemed underwhelming.

We ended up using that pick to get center Brayden SChenn. So yes it was a very underwhelming return for MTL. I think you just are in denial and won't admit it.

12 Sep 2018 20:13:43
I don't have time right now I may get on later though to point out some of the things you are wrong about. But your starting to sound like someone who said all along they would get nothing for pacioretty and now that they did you are in denial . Lol.

12 Sep 2018 21:27:30
1st off I don't see how a guy goes from getting a 1st a 2nd and a 3rd at 5.3 mil to being a cap dump at 4.8 mil. Especially after about 30 games. Tater is a more consistent 20 goal scorer then pacioretty is a consistent 30 scorer cause tater has got 20 goals every year except his first full year when he got 19 goals in 73 games. He's not a cap dump by no means at least not yet. Suzuki is a top 50 prospects whether all these lists you talk about have him on it or not. I read a list yesterday that had joe veleno ahead of brady tkachuk and filip zadina so maybe it was that one. the 2nd pick is Columbus so it's probably around 50th.

12 Sep 2018 21:31:56
So shattenkirk got a first 27th overall, that future superstar zach sand ford and a 2nd. So let's just compare montreal gets a 2017 13th overall pick a 2nd and tomas tater soooo
13th pick = much better then a 27th pick
Tomas tater = much better then zach Sanford
2nd = 2nd. Hope that helps!

12 Sep 2018 21:37:39
The schenn trade also cost you another 1st along with the one they aquired in the shatt trade. So if montreal trades tater again for a 2nd and drafts a 30 goal winger would you say they won the deal then?

12 Sep 2018 22:52:21
I think the habs did great. Patches is coming off a terrible season and returned a top C prospect, A replacement and a 2nd round pick. Suzuki seems drastically underrated in this situation.

12 Sep 2018 23:47:16
Also where are all these top prospect lists that don't have him in the top 50 I just took the time to find 5 and they all had him between 23rd and 38th, 23rd is a little high IMO but the 30 to 35 spot is just about right.

09 Sep 2018 00:54:34
Dallas:
Max Pacioretty LW
Karl Alzner D
2nd 2020

Montreal:
Tyler Seguin C
Jason Spezza C

Edmonton:
Shea Weber D
Andrew Shaw C
2nd 2019

Montreal:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins C
Milan Lucic LW
1st 2020

09 Sep 2018 05:20:56
Where to start. Seguin>>patches, he’s younger puts up more points and centerman have more value than wingers and Spezza has one more year compared to Alzner s 4 of bad contract so that makes zero sense for Dallas. 2nd trade Webber tho still very good is aging and declining and another what, years left on his deal for a young 2nd line centerman with a decent contract and Shaw who is younger and cheaper for Lucic And oilers add the first? Wow, you’re not a Habs fan are ya?

09 Sep 2018 06:23:02
Uh no from oil.

09 Sep 2018 14:07:35
Oilers should take that and run they’re dumping Lucic a below average 4th liner being paid 6 million a year. Nuge and the 1st are good but Weber is one of the best dman in the NHL still and is on a criminally underrated contract. 7.8 million is a steal for a #1 dman and the acquiring team can trade him back to Nashville for a boat load so they avoid cap recaptures in the final 3 years when his front loaded salary falls down to 1 million.

09 Sep 2018 16:46:42
So what does Lucic have to do this season for you to eat your words vbb?
Because he is certainly now a "below average 4th liner" or an "AHL player" as you've called him before. You're just spewing hate is all. I'm not at all praising the guy or anything, don't put words in my mouth now.
Simply saying that you're crazy over exaggerating as usual.

09 Sep 2018 18:20:40
Do something other then hold McDavid back at 2 million Lucic would be a good signing but 6 million is horrendous.

09 Sep 2018 18:48:36
Ok. So are you back peddling now?
You say he's an "AHL player" and a "below average 4th liner"

09 Sep 2018 20:40:27
@VBB If he were a “below average 4th line” or “AHL player” he wouldn’t be a good signing at $2 mill lol so somethings wrong with your assessment

for $3-3.5 mill to play on someone’s 3rd line and provide physicality and maybe a net from presence on a PP he would be good. At $6 mill he is either an extremely overpaid 3rd liner or you’re forced to play him as a top line player which he just isn’t.

IMO if teams are still prepared to pay Leo Komarov $3 mill on a 4 year term (I like Leo but am so glad we aren’t the ones giving him that), then there’s definitely a place for Lucic. But with his current contract, he’s next to worthless on the trade market unfortunately.

09 Sep 2018 22:19:52
Lucic to Leo komarov is a good comparison both are pretty worthless aside from a slight 3rd line scoring capability and a intemdation prseance. Lucic would not crack the leafs roster there for he’d be an AHLer and if he did make the leafs Roster on LW Andreas Johanson, Hyman And Kappanen would be ahead of him as a LW. As RW Marner, Nylander, Grundstrom and Brown would be ahead of him on the depth chart. Obviously on most teams he’s not a AHL player but nothing more then a 3rd liner.

10 Sep 2018 01:24:29
Wow finally something I can agree on, Lucic no longer is a top 6 player imo but as a third liner he can still contribute well. Or he bounces back to 45-50 point player which I’m hoping he does if he sticks top 6 this year.

10 Sep 2018 06:25:05
Well Patches is a GoldenKnight now.

07 Sep 2018 21:54:29
Mtl) Patch
Nyi) Eberle or Ho-Sang

08 Sep 2018 17:43:12
honestly. this is one of the better ones I've seen.

08 Sep 2018 18:22:23
I’d say ho-sang makes more sense age and salary wise. And getting that kinda young potential for patches would be a good idea, I just don’t know if they want the only piece coming back for a good player having a questionable attitude and work ethic. If he doesn’t get along with coaches or teammates right of the hop, that’s a disaster.

08 Sep 2018 20:44:14
If it’s ho sang islanders add more considering he hasn’t proved a thing and isle are getting a proven scorer.

06 Sep 2018 17:51:32
Mtl: Brodin, Parise

Min: Patches, 2rd 2018

That is only if Patches agreed to extension of 6 million for 8 years. Mtl takes a bad contract and actually gives a not terrible one when u think about it because JVR got 7 million but yes it was for 5 years. Pacioretty gets more long term security at a still good salary imo for both sides. That is only if Patches starts the season old and values goes up. But if so is this good???

06 Sep 2018 21:07:55
Brodin> Patch.

07 Sep 2018 00:47:16
You say Brodin > Patch but the whole point of it is for minny to shed some cap.

07 Sep 2018 01:31:52
Nothing> Parise and Brodin.

07 Sep 2018 02:58:12
How is Brodin better than Pacioretty?

07 Sep 2018 13:22:52
I know Brodin is worth more then Patches by a big amount since he's 4 years younger, signed for another 3 years at 4.1 million not UFA and D>wingers. That's why mtl takes on a bad contract straight up and throws in a second pick. Taking 8 million for another 6 years and only getting in average probably 35-40 points per season is very valuable imo for mynny. Anyways I think is fair for both teams and I apreaciate the comments even KeyHabs ahah.

07 Sep 2018 13:23:28
Praise dosnt bring down Brodin as much as ure making it sounds Vb. Yes he's way overpaid for another 6 years but he is still a good secondary scorer on any team in the nhl. He would still be a top 6 player in mtl wich is why I still think my l needs to add to Patches to get him and Brodin. I don't thknk they have to add a warm and a leg but a second is a god price imo.

07 Sep 2018 14:53:18
If anyone declines it Montreal Parise is a definition of an Anchor all tho I still like him as a player.

07 Sep 2018 15:48:09
Colt, you can be 100% right that Parise is still a decent player and can chip in for secendary scoring. And yet VBB is also 100% right that he’s an anchor of a contract. He’s 34, owed $7.5mill till he’s 40. That’s a brutal deal right now.

07 Sep 2018 16:36:51
He’s owed the same cap hit, till about the same age as Weber. A lot of people think Weber’s deal is an anchor to his value. However Weber is still (when healthy) a very very good top pair Dman on almost any team. Parise isn’t a top line player on any team I can think of right now. That’s the difference.

08 Sep 2018 01:20:18
I think you'd need to add more to take Parise, up there with the most regrettable contracts in the league.

08 Sep 2018 18:02:54
if everyone’s trades are so bad why don’t you post a trade him? You are so easy to criticize but you don’t back it up. Be a man make a reasonable Toronto trade.

05 Sep 2018 03:48:57
Now that WPG signed Wheeler and will have to sign Laine and Connor to big contracts next year they'll need to shed some cap space. Probably either Little, Perrault or both most likely after this season. The players still have value so here's some proposals:

WPG: Little
MON: Juulsen

or

WPG: Perrault
BOS: 2nd Round Pick 2019

Thoughts? Or comment some suggestions

05 Sep 2018 04:39:24
No on the first one, yes on the 2nd.

05 Sep 2018 05:57:29
Little would be Montreal’s best centre, but by default. Not nearly good enough to change anything there and therefore they should stick to a plan and keep the younger, cheap asset with good potential.

Don’t know if Boston needs Perrault. They have their veteran forwards under contract (Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, krejci, backes) and had a good crop of youth (deBrusk, Henien, Donato etc) take steps last year that should fill up most of the top 9. But the price is good. Someone would add him for a 2nd rounder.

05 Sep 2018 15:21:15
The Jets would jump on these deals if Roslovic has chemistry centering Laine and Ehlers and one of Petan, Dano, Lemieux or Appleton are ready to replace Perreault in the bottom 6. The Jets save $ and the Habs get a #1 center, for them, as he would be a #3 with the Jets. I could see Perreault being traded to Columbus or Vegas as they both would want him more than Boston.

05 Sep 2018 16:49:35
Yes, both of these would be good deals for the Jets. But, Montreal needs to stick with going young. Little won't lift them to a playoff spot, so they need to stay the course.

07 Sep 2018 01:46:14
I think I'd rather go with daneult as a number 1 center then trade assets for bryan little.

05 Sep 2018 01:29:13
to Montreal
Duchene

to Ottawa
Kotkaniemi

Montreal, despite their poor moves and poor season last year, still has a lot of nice pieces. I think they could really rebound with a healthier lineup, and allowing Drouin to play with less pressure.

05 Sep 2018 04:34:13
Think again lol.

05 Sep 2018 06:01:14
Duchene has a year left before he walks. Just because ottawa still owes a 1st rounder (probably top 3) doesn’t mean he’s worth a top C prospect who just went 3rd Overall.

If you have a 2005 Chevy Cavalier and still owe the bank $10,000 on it, doesn’t mean it’s worth $10,000 lol.

09 Sep 2018 19:02:27
Ottawa says no.

04 Sep 2018 21:46:37
Mtl: pacioretty


Dal: hanzal-lindell

05 Sep 2018 04:34:31
Can it just be Lindell?

05 Sep 2018 04:50:26
Lindel is extremely underrated the cap dump is definitely called for in that situation doubt the Stars part with him. He’s pretty much locked beside Klingburg.

04 Sep 2018 21:42:05
Mtl- byron-shaw-scherbak

Buff- sobotka-girgenson

04 Sep 2018 15:19:16
Mtl: Gallagher

Devils: Zacha


Devils gets a good winger to complemented Hischier and hall and mtl gets a good young center to rebuild

05 Sep 2018 21:31:55
No from MTL, we're not losing our heart for that.

02 Sep 2018 04:43:59
OTT:
- Duchene

MTL:
- Petry
- '19 1st

02 Sep 2018 14:06:49
Sorry habs aren’t in a position to trade there first as it’s likely a top 10 pick and if Petry is going to be traded it will be for prospects and picks.

02 Sep 2018 16:01:57
Montreal shouldn't trade any first rounders for about 5 years I think.
I think this is going to be the one of the darker periods in Habs history for the next few seasons.

03 Sep 2018 20:11:44
Nope sorry we're keeping our 1st rounders.

02 Sep 2018 02:07:30
Mtl-pacioretty-byron-lindgren-alzner


Minn- koivu-erikkson ek -parise

Mtl- buy out parise 2 or 3 year from now

02 Sep 2018 14:09:36
How does this make sense for either team, habs want to rebuild so let’s trade our biggest trade chip for older guys on bad contracts? And Min doesn’t need wingers if Neno can rebound this year.

02 Sep 2018 16:14:24
Ek Erickson=older guy on bad contract? Lol what?

03 Sep 2018 02:22:07
Sorry I really meant parise and Koivu, ek is nice but not enough future in the package for patch.

31 Aug 2018 23:41:45
Canucks gaudette 1 rd pick kole lind 2 rd pick dahlen sutter


Mtl max domi johnathan drouin

Mtl max patchs

Oiler 1 rd pick sekra 3 rd pick

Canadians draft jack hughes and a couple of d guy withen 3 years they well be making the playoff

Domi horvat boeser
Drouin petterson virtanen
Sven gagner erikson
Russel beagle schaller
Edler stecher
Joulevi tanev
Pouliot guddy

01 Sep 2018 00:03:14
If you are in the sites fantasy league and you knew how Finest has started to switch to a Canucks fan then reading the grammar of this post you could easily conclude this is Finest’s new account so welcome back Finest.

01 Sep 2018 01:31:48
Damn, hell no from Vancouver. 3 of our best prospects, a 1st, 2nd and Sutter for Drouin and Domi? I seriously hope this was a joke post, if not you’re delusional.

I wouldn’t even do Dahlen and Gaudette straight up for Domi and Drouin.

01 Sep 2018 06:00:25
Hahahaha holy this is so brutal.

31 Aug 2018 05:11:02
to Montreal
Spezza
Shore
2nd

to Dallas
Pacioretty

Dallas can afford to get rid of spezza as they have 4 capable centers (Seguin, Faksa, Hanzal and Smith) and could call up someone like Jason Dickinson as an extra center. Pacioretty would replace Shore as a wing upgrade, and the 2nd makes the value add up.

plus dallas should sign rick nash to play with pacioretty on the second line.

31 Aug 2018 15:06:50
Habs don't need anything in that package.

31 Aug 2018 15:35:28
Doesn’t help habs with a rebuild really. Obviously a 2nd isn’t useless in a build, but they need to win a paccioretty trade because there other 2 best players are a lot harder to trade.

31 Aug 2018 20:16:30
Why don’t Montreal throw in gallagher and Kotkaniemi while their at it? Maybe their next 10 firsts as well since clearly none of their players hold any value if that’s all you think Paches is worth.

31 Aug 2018 23:27:37
looks fair to me.

01 Sep 2018 02:35:56
pacioretty WILL leave as a free agent and is coming off the worse season he's had in a long time. plus I feel like people forget what a 2nd rounder can be worth sometimes. His value isn't that high and habs fans that think differently are setting themselves up to be mad at bergevin for getting a poor return when they should be mad at bergevin for not trading him sooner.

01 Sep 2018 08:57:40
If Spezza though media pressure in Ottawa was bad.

30 Aug 2018 01:06:47
Montreal:
Patch

New Jersey:
Zacha, 2019 2nd

30 Aug 2018 16:27:44
Really don’t see why NJ makes this trade.

30 Aug 2018 21:40:53
The only position that NJ couldn’t possibly upgrade is LW (Taylor Hall) and that’s what you suggest they spend assets on?

31 Aug 2018 02:44:20
Hockey is more than a 1 line game. There depth at LW drops off quite a bit after hall.

31 Aug 2018 02:56:43
Like honestly that is such a dumb thing to say. The Penguins have Crosby so they shouldn't spend money on malkin. The lightning have Herman so they shouldn't trade for karlsson. The leafs had Matthews so they shouldn't have signed Tavares. need I go on. This is basically what you are saying.

31 Aug 2018 15:32:12
What he’s trying to say @Pittsburghs finnest is that it isn’t smart to spend assets on a strong point in your roster when you have multiple glaring needs. Useally teams upgrade strong points internally unless if freak situations like Tavares and RHD is probably Tampa’s biggest position of need tbh. If Malkin and Karlsson hit the trade market a team like Edmonton isn’t going to give up a lot of their assets for Malkin when they already have Drais and RNH and they desperately need defense.

31 Aug 2018 15:41:05
Jerseys other best two young players after Hiescher is Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both left shot LW. They are far from a perfect team, but LW is the least of their concern. It’s not that dumb of a thing to say. Centre, Defense and Goalie are a little different than wingers lol Patches wanted 8 years $8 mill apparently, even if that’s not true and wants $7 mill, why have him behind hall?! Hall is going to be the go to guy on LW in all situations. If you have Centre depth, they can go to a wing for PP or goalie out late in game situations. Patches is a LW, nothing else.

31 Aug 2018 15:44:45
And from your examples.

Pens drafted Crosby and Malkin. Didn’t trade assets in a build for them

Leafs drafted Matthews and signed JT as a UFA, did t trade assets during a build for them

Hedman is a LD, Karlsson is a RD. That makes a lethal top pair, not in each other’s way. That makes my point exactly, why not get an elite RW to play with hall and Hiescher?

31 Aug 2018 23:24:10
Hall outscored the second highest scoring player on the team by 41 pts. That player is a 19 year old C who has also played left wing. The other two surprising youngsters were Jesper Bratt and Miles Wood. Both Left shot LWs! Lol Spend assets to give the team some diverse players and give Hall someone to play with. Not Create an expensive block for 2 cheap young players making good strides.

29 Aug 2018 22:17:23
Dallas: Seguin

Vs

Montreal: Kotkaniemi, Lehkonen, 2019 1st

Thoughts?

29 Aug 2018 22:54:51
That's a big package unless he's agreeing to an extension.

30 Aug 2018 01:13:42
Tbh if seguin signed an extension that’s not a good offer for Dallas to accept lol.

30 Aug 2018 01:26:59
Habs shouldn't part with any first round picks for a few years. even with Seguin, this won be a contending team for awhile .

30 Aug 2018 04:31:04
No thanks even with an extension.

30 Aug 2018 14:32:06
Ya as nice as Seguin would be, I don't think Montreal should trade their 2019 1st.

01 Sep 2018 00:23:45
Are you asking who’d win in a fight because a 3 v 1 isn’t fair at all.

26 Aug 2018 06:46:33
To OTT:
Pacioretty, Weber & McCarron

To MTL:
Karlson, Ryan, Conditional 1st or 2nd 2019 (if Pacioretty signs extension it becomes a 1st)



To TOR:
Weber (retain 25%)

To OTT:
Nylander





Or

To TOR:
Weber (retain 25%) & McCarron

To MTL:
Nylander & 2nd 2019

26 Aug 2018 14:47:17
Oh boy, I don't even know where to start.

26 Aug 2018 15:51:50
Well 1st of all no to Nylander for Weber from a Toronto POV unless if they retain 50%.

26 Aug 2018 17:06:47
Second Ottawa doesn't have their 2019 pick.

26 Aug 2018 21:53:18
wait what.

26 Aug 2018 23:10:59
Thirdly, leafs wouldn’t pay a 2nd for mccarron lol they already have Gauthier, and wouldn’t get close to a 2nd rounder for him. So why pay that for a similar player we don’t need?

27 Aug 2018 11:56:04
Leafs are not Trading a 22yr old Star Forward for a 32yr old Defenceman that won't play until Christmas, if Montreal added a Prospect and they switched 1st Round Picks maybe but why would the Leafs weaken themselves this Season with Matthews and Marner contracts up after this Season, for Montreal sure they do it.

27 Aug 2018 18:47:57
I was hoping the weber trades would stop until he least got back from his injury. We'll so much for that.

27 Aug 2018 22:21:27
Yeah, all we can do is assume Weber is still going to be great when he returns. Reality is he’s not a young guy, had hard miles on his body and has run into injury problems. He’s not untradable by any means, but until he’s back and playing 90%+ of where he used to be, you can get the thought of getting a Nylander type return out of your head.

23 Aug 2018 21:16:13
Montreal Canadiens acquires:

Calvin Pickard
6th Round Pick 2019


Toronto Maple Leafs acquires:

Jacob de la Rose
Matthew Peca.

24 Aug 2018 00:49:41
Hes not needed on Habs.

24 Aug 2018 03:42:37
Why would habs do this Golie is there deepest position.

24 Aug 2018 05:52:44
Eventhough montreal would be crazy to accept this why would toronto do this. It would mean they would either have to lose a player or two from there current lineup to make room or put the two players they are getting back on waivers (in which they would both be claimed ) before they could send them to the minors. If Pickard gets dealt at all I think it will be for a pick or a prospect or a 1 for 1 swap for a 4th liner or a depth dman.

24 Aug 2018 05:53:12
Or he just ends up on waivers.

 
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