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19 Dec 2014 11:04:20
MTL: Jacob de la Rose, 2015 3rd
BUF: Drew Stafford (50% retained) & Johan Larsson .

sbr2017


MONTREAL doesn't WANT STAFFORD. HE IS NO BETTER THEN PA PARENTEAU. And they wouldn't give one of their top prospects for him either.

Soobydoo


Very interesting! I reposted two proposed trades that received overwhelming believable responses the 1st time they were posted and this time, all unbelievable. Soobydoo, thanks for the comments.

sbr2017


If Devils are out of a playoff spot by trade deadline, how about Habs 'rent' Jagr to play with his buddy Plek & have another shot @ the Cup with Conn Smythe winner Price?

Boris Bagel



 

 

18 Dec 2014 19:10:26
Desharnais,andrighetto for Perron

Fills 2nd line lw for montreal and edmonton gets a 2c until draisaitl is ready and they get also get a good yound prospect

Allen, bournival, 2nd for bickell

Clears cap space for next season for chicago but they still get a younger player that can fill bickells 3rd line left wing and a good pick, allen to balance cap for this season and gives montreal a big winger to play with eller

Gilbert, pateryn, 3rd for z.michalek


Pacioretty, Galchenyuk. Sekac
Perron. Plekanec. Gallagher
Bickell. Eller. Parenteau
Prust. Malhotra. Wiese
Tangradi

Markov. Subban
Emelin. Michalek
Beaulieu. Gonchar
Weaver

Price
Tokarski

Larry


Deharnais is the worst fit for Edmonton maybe if he was a last resort. But he is over-rated, would get lit up, and just isn't the big/physical center they actually need. Considering they are talking about Vermette and Anisimov for Perron. Deharnais does not compare

JF12


Change desharnais to eller

mcdavidsweepstakes


Vermette's a pending UFA, why would OIls trade for him now? what's the point?

Boris Bagel



 

 

17 Dec 2014 23:04:35
mon: Markov, Tinordi/ Bealieu, 1st

arizona: Yandle,

pksubban76


Wont happen, Markov has NTC, won't waive it to play in ARZ

Boris Bagel


Also a no because yandle is not worth a good vet d man a good yound dman and a 1st overall pick. major overpayment.

Canadian blue



 

 

17 Dec 2014 03:22:04
To MTL: Drew Stafford (retain 50%), William Carrier, NYI 2015 1st

To BUF: Lars Eller, Nikita Sherbak

MTL could use another top 6 winger and BUF needs a good puck possession player and solid centre so we can stop putting wingers at centre. IMO it's a fair deal but I not who adds and how much

sabres14


I take it Sherbak is the deal breaker would Stafford with retained salary straight for Eller work or would BUF add?

sabres14


Actually, Hodgson, McCormick, Mitchell, Girgenson, Ennis & Flynn are now and hopefully next year Grigorenko and Reinhart will be centers. It is just the "Village Motivator" who decides to put Foligno at center and make lines with all right or all left handed shots. Go to www.LeftWingLock.com to confirm my statement.

sbr2017


No thanks from Habs

Boris Bagel


Stafford 0.58 pts/gm
542 141 173 314
eller 0.36 pts/gm
314 52 62 114
gms--goals-ass---pts
IMO Stafford is worth more than Eller based on life time and this years stats.
Carrier & 1st is worth more than Nikita Scherbak.
Remember right handed shots are a real premium.
Here are two scenarios
Drew Stafford (retain 50%), William Carrier, NYI 2015 2nd for Lars Eller, Nikita Sherbak
or
Drew Stafford (retain 50%) for Lars Eller & 2015 3rd.
As I said above, Centers are not a problem now and less in the future for the Sabres.

sbr2017


@Boris Bagel, great we agree, no deal. I love it when we agree.

sbr2017


None of the centres you mentioned that are on the team now actually look good a centre and definetly can't win face offs. Eller is signed long term on a good contract, is great at face offs and is a hard working Ted Nolan type player. If we don't get McEichel which we most likely won't Eller would make a great 3C behind Reinhart and Girgs. He can be moved up to a 2C while they develop.

sabres14


@sabres14, you are correct that Eller is a faceoff beast, but does make him equal to Stafford, IMO no. Stafford also brings a physical presence to the game as well as scoring more points. IDK why but if you look at their entire history the Sabres hardly ever approached average FO%. IMO they should hire Konopka as a face off coach.

sbr2017


Stafford is a UFA, a rental, you won't get equal player signed long term/reasonable cap hit.
at best 2nd rounder & B level prospect

Boris Bagel



 

 

16 Dec 2014 20:46:44
MTL: Plekanec & (Tinordi or Beaulieu) & (Bournival or Thomas) & Fucale & 1st 2015 & 2nd 2016 for 2nd overall pick(Eichel)

Habfan2


If you want a franchise player, you'll need to give elite/franchise player.

Cd1


Eichel could still go 1st

Boris Bagel



 

 


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16 Dec 2014 06:00:35
Taylor Hall is on the market?

Mtl: Eller + Desharnais + Beaulieu + fucale + 1 round

Edm: Hall


If I were edmonton I would not do this trade the players they would be getting I don't believe would give them the culture change they are looking for. This trade doesn't give them a star player nor does it give a top pairing dman which the need badly.

TMLeafs


Montreal is in need of a #1 RW not a LW.

If they were to make a trade it would probably be for Eberle.

Cd1


Galchenyuk has to be involved.

THEGR81


If Galchenyuk is involved, OIls need to add their 1st round pick in '15

Boris Bagel


HAHAHAHAHAH great joke :)

mcdavidsweepstakes


@Boris Bagel You seem to be a little biased towards your habs.

benn14


Hall
for
Subban and Galchenyuk

steamer


Okay stemer as much as I like that yrade that is horrible for habs in value skill and talent

mcdavidsweepstakes


Hall won't get Subban by himself let alone Galchenyuk with him.

habsfan22


Gallagher , Galchenyuk , Fucale and a 1st 2016
for
Hall and a 5th 2016

steamer


Too much for Hall, just DD, 1st rounder plus Fucale is more than enough

Boris Bagel


Considering Hall & Desharnais have same amount of points so far this season (& DD has way better +/-), Oils need to add Perron with Hall to get land for DD, Fucale & 1st

Boris Bagel


@Bagel, nobody judge's players on one season alone but if that's your logic them you won't mind this trade.
Galchenyuk
for
Santoreli
He has more points so far this season, better +/-, Montreal had better add a pick don't you think.

steamer


Except Gally is 20 and a budding superstar, the other guy is a 30 year old journeyman late bloomer

Boris Bagel


Well Ok , Hall is 23 and is a superstar,Desharnais is a 5"7 , 28 year old journeyman late bloomer. I still don't understand your argument, you and most other delusional habs fans undervalue every other teams players. How is Hall for Desharnais , Fucale and a late 1st enough?

steamer


@steamer the trade with gallager galchenyuk and fucale is good, change the 1st to a 2nd and the 5th to a 5th 2017, i'm sorry @boris bagel is delusional and dosent know anything about hall, He is one of those people that ruin the habs reputation, please excuse @bagels stupidity and biased opinion to the habs if you will

Caryprice31



 

 

15 Dec 2014 21:30:55
sorry haven't been on this site for a while but oh well here goes.

MON: desharnais, 4th rund pick 2015

EDM: Perron

OR

MON: 2nd, 4th

EDM: Perron

Personally I like the 1st trade more but whatever its the internet do what you want!

pksubban76


Please go back to where you were, these trades are not very good, more would have to be added by montreal

StaalingForTime


Edmonton needs a lot of things but desharnais isn't one of them.

steamer


DD for Perron is OK, Habs don't need to add a pick.

Boris Bagel


@StaalingForTime lmao wtf be nice

pksubban76



 

 

14 Dec 2014 15:44:17
Mtl: Desharnais + Beaulieu + 3rnd pick

Phi: Simmonds

What do you think?


I don't think Philly will want another centre but I think if Desharnais was switched for a different forward or different defensemen it would work.

habsfan22


As a habs fan, I'd love to see Simmonds with Montreal but Philly would want more.

Cd1


I don't think the flyers would want to trade Simmonds. or at least they shouldnt

hab.


If Montreal wants Simmonds it'll be more like
Gallagher , Del la Rose
for
Simmonds
Even then , Philly might still decline.

steamer


Seems to be a fair trade value

Boris Bagel



 

 

14 Dec 2014 02:31:10
Buf: Hackett

Clb: conditional 3rd 2015*

*whatever rule they want
//////////////////////////////////////////
SJ: Nieto, 3rd 2015

Phi: L. Schenn
//////////////////////////////////////////
Mtl: Eller, Nygren

Edm: Perron
//////////////////////////////////////////
Ott: Michalek, 4rth 2016

Ari: M. Stone, Lessio
//////////////////////////////////////////
Ana: 2nd

Bos: Seidenberg

Anaheim probably adds for cap reasons
//////////////////////////////////////////
My first post!

Bruuh


Boston easily says no to that trade getting rid of Seidenberg for a pick would be a horrible decision.

And I believe Arizona says no to ottawa on that trade as well. Michalek has been on a steep decline and has basically been playing fourth line minutes on a bad ottawa team.

TMLeafs


@Bruuh, I think you made a good effort and your trades a probably close, but when you put them all into one post, almost everyone will find at least one trade they disagree with and vote unbelievable. Next time separate your posts and listen to the feedback. We are often guided by our biases and misjudge talent. Keep trying and do not get discouraged.

sbr2017


Habs have absolutely no need for another defensemen, and if any centre is going to be moved it's Desharnais.

habsfan22


Well Perron is a winger… and no one wants desharnais

Oilers_11


First Perron is and only a winger, not a defencemen. And second, if you're really a "habs fan", u would know they cannot trade DD, first, he's a way better center, and second, for Eller they could get something good in return. DD sadly dosen't have more value than a 4rth rd pick.

DA BOSS8



 

 

14 Dec 2014 01:59:28
MTL: Jacob de la Rose, 2015 3rd
BUF: Drew Stafford (50% retained) & Johan Larsson.

sbr2017



 

 

13 Dec 2014 21:09:14
Prospect swap

Mtl: Bournival
Chi: Morin

Thoughts?

piccante1


Bournival is too valuable to give up because he does everything right, he just has to step up his offense.

habsfan22


Chicago needs to add

Boris Bagel



 

 

12 Dec 2014 23:40:35
Oilers need to get rid of Schultz

Oilers: Simmonds, Lecavalier, Coburn

PHI: Schultz, Purcell, Nikitin, 3rdp 2015


Then they still need help down the middle and on D. So;

Oilers: Sheahan

Wings: Petry, Arco


Oilers: Sekera (signed)

Car: Marincin, Lander, 2rdp 2015


Oilers: Emelin

MTL: Perron, 2rdp 2016

oil10


Keep dreaming OIls fans

Boris Bagel


Philly loses the first trade. Don't know the value on Sheahan but that trade seems beleivable. Don't know sekaras value but don't think it's worth giving up marincin. And oilers over pay on Montreal trade.

Oilers_11


Detroit is not trading Sheahan for that he is trending up, no thanks

yzerman19


Petry has been playing good this year y get rid of him.

mcdavidsweepstakes



 

 

12 Dec 2014 21:41:54
MTL: desharnais
WIN:frolik, 3rd round pick 2015

MTL: beaulieu
CHI: bickell

pacioretty-galchenyuk-galagher
frolik-plekanek-andrighetto
bickell-eller-sekac
prust-malhotra-weise
bounival

markov-subban
emelin-gilbert
tinordi- gonchar
weaver

price/tokaski

habs


13 Dec 2014 07:10:15
Don't think winnipeg would trade Frolik right now. I like the Chi and Mtl trade.

Titties


Habs don't need Bickell and the huge contract he's unworthy of.

habsfan22


It's not like they haven't had someone not worthy of a contract before.

*Cough* Gomez *Cough*

JF12


Actually the habs do need a player like bickell, and a #1 centre.

steamer


Habs won't have cap space for Bickell if its just Beaulieu. CHI would have to take another contract off from Habs. maybe Gilbert's

Boris Bagel



 

 

12 Dec 2014 15:01:21
Montreal: Tom Gilbert, Eric Tangradi, 2nd 2016(montreal's) and Magnus Nygren or Greg Pateryn

New Jersey: Adam Larsson and Ben Thomson

I changed it a bit :)

habsfan22


Habs throw in Desharnais, too

Boris Bagel



 

 

10 Dec 2014 15:11:01
Montreal: Tom Gilbert and 2016 2nd round pick(Montreal's)

New Jersey: Adam Larsson

habsfan22


As much as the devils have struggled I can't see them trading Larsson for that

Charles Xavier


If Jersey has given up on Larsson , it's going to take more than that to get him in Montreal.

steamer


I think Bournival would have to be going to NJ in order for Larsson to go to MTL

Neymar


I agree with Charles Xavier, steamer and Neymar.

sbr2017


New Jersey: Adam Larsson

Montreal: Tom Gilbert and 2016 2nd round pick (Montreal's)

maybe Habs throw in Nygren or Dietz, plus Nevins

Boris Bagel



 

 

10 Dec 2014 02:18:22
Edmonton is looking for McDavid this year. they need an entire roster change.

The Oilers are believed to be looking for a top-two center, a young defenseman and another piece for Jordan Eberle.

To PHI: Eberle, Schultz
TO EDM: B. Shenn, L. Shenn, 1st 2015, 2nd 2016

To MTL: Yakupov, 4th 2015
To EDM: Eller, Tinordi, 2nd 2015

CaPtAiN cAnAdA


10 Dec 2014 05:15:38
no from philly, maybe for the MTL one.

Shankar


Too much from Philly

TradeRape


So what you're saying is. Edm is going to draft another 1st overall and ride him right to the basement again. Cool

SmokeShow


Habs better off keeping Eller and Tinordi than getting Yak

Boris Bagel



 

 

08 Dec 2014 02:23:16
Mtl:Eberle

Edm:desharnais, tokarski, bournival & emelin

Galchenyuk_27


Lol desharnais would get manhandled in the west. especially on a team like the oilers

mcdavidsweepstakes


Easy no from Edmonton.

steamer


Easy no from habs, desharnais isn't the best but is okay and puts up roughly 50 some points a year and toakarski is our futur after cary (then its fucale) and emelin is getteing better so I don't see this trade happenning

Caryprice31


Too much for Eberle, take out Emelin and add Allen

Boris Bagel


Desharnais is okay but I think we have to keep galchenyuk plekanec and eller befor him. And for tokarski he is already 25years old so don't think he will stay the back up of carey all his career. Emelin is good but oilers need Dman. Mtl will be better with eberle

Galchenyuk_27


Eberle for Gallagher and Beaulieu

steamer


Gallagher has more value to Habs than Eberle, so Oils would need to add

Boris Bagel



 

 

08 Dec 2014 00:14:16
Oilers: eberle
Bruins: lucic and soderberg

Or

Oilers: yak
Habs: eller

Or

Oilers: Eberle + marnicin
Phili: couturier + coburn

Or

Oilers: shultz and marnicin
Sabres: Myers

Or

Oilers: yak + Schultz
Sabres: hodgson + Myers

Oilers should wait till the deadline and trade Nikitin and Purcell for anything, even if oilers have to keep 20% of heir salary.

Oilers should keep on track and get 1st or 2nd overall picks.

ReSign Petry.
Try to:
1.Sign neimi
2.Sign sekera or boychuk or green
3.Sign Foligno or Williams

edm oil


That first one made me laugh. There is no way Boston ever talks trades to Edmonton again if that's what they offer.From what I have read on a number of different sites Edmonton wanted Lucic for Eberle but Boston was saying no.

roycer18


08 Dec 2014 10:56:41
Yakupov straight up for Eller is a good joke as well

Draisaitl_94


08 Dec 2014 18:58:36
I like yak, but he has not proven himself yet. And if he doesn't soon, oilers will get nothing for him. I hope they can sign him to a bridge contract.
Plus, the first trade, I meant to say Hall and not ebrle. Hall can get u lucic and soderberg.

edm oil


@edm oil
if you meant hall that changes a lot of things in that first deal for sure

roycer18


Hall can get u more than lucic and soderberg

Cd1


09 Dec 2014 04:09:22
Maybe. But with lucic and soderberg, u get size and experience and skill. Plus, lucic is 26. He is young. Oilers need a shake up and so do the Bruins.

edm oil



 

 

07 Dec 2014 08:07:31
WPG: E.Kane, Rights to Galiardi, 4th 2016
MTL: Eller, Bozon, Mccarron, Audette

thunderbird83


Winnipeg doesn't really need a new 4th line centre , or a bunch of garbage prospects, why would winnipeg do this?

steamer


Jets need to add

Boris Bagel


^^^that 4th line center has more points than kane as well as your second line center scheifele, as for garbage prospects mccarron has one of the best points/game in ohl and is 6'5

Larry


McCarron will become a 4th Liner at best. Drafted purely because of his size

JF12


07 Dec 2014 18:13:39
lol if mccaron wast dominating juniors in his last year it'd be a definite concern, but him playing well is far from a huge possitive.

Shankar


Lol,McCarron doesn't have one of points/game in the ohl , and yeah he's 6"5 and almost 20 years old playing against younger smaller players , no way Winnipeg does this deal , nothing the Jets need or want here.

steamer


Winnipeg says no easily. They would need more talent coming back. I would rather get one or two players with more talent than 4 that aren't as talented. I can't see Montreal landing a player like Kane without giving up more of their top end prospects or better roster players.

roycer18



 

 

05 Dec 2014 23:47:34
Edmonton's season is over its obvious.
They can trade their UFA's and do something in free agency.

To Montreal: David Perron
To Edmonton: Lars Eller

I think they are pretty equal.
Lars Eller is having a better season.
David Perron has more salary.
David Perron is a UFA
Craig McT said they need to add a center.
And they want to move Perron

To Detroit: Jeff Petry
To EDM: 2015 3rd round pick, 2015 5th round pick

Petry will make a difference to Detroit as they need him. And are willing to 'overpay' for a player that is born near the area and is a UFA.If they don't like him, they can let him go. He is not a player that will chew up the cap. But will help Detroit.

NHLFunFacts


Perron still has one more year of his contract

IslesBlowButILoveEm


Perron is 26 , he's had 2 , 50 + pt seasons, 2 , 40 + pt seasons. Eller is 25 , he's never even gotten 40 pts in one season ever. Montreal definitely will be adding.

steamer


Thank you for telling me!
@IslesBlowButILoveEm

NHLFunFacts


Perron is not UFA, either way, don't think Habs would ever consider this trade, Eller is locked for few years at an OK cap hit. maybe Desharnais to open centre spot for Gally, but Eller fits in nicely as 3rd line Habs pivot with decent size

Boris Bagel


@Streamer he 90% of those points on a good team,with good depth and a good goalie.

NHLFunFacts


@NHLFunFacts , Perron had a career high 57 pts with Edmonton last year, and the last time I checked , Montreal has a good team, with good depth and a good goalie and Eller has way less points.

steamer


@steamer because Eller is not getting as much playing time as Perron.

NHLFunFacts


@NHLFunFacts, you have to earn the right to get big minutes, I guess Eller hasn't done enough for Montreal's organization for him to get more ice time , Perron fought his way through a stacked Blues lineup and earned his minutes, this trade makes Edmonton worse, if that's possible.

steamer



 

 

04 Dec 2014 18:36:00
MTL: jiri tlusty
CAR: david desharnais, 3rd/ 2015

What do you think about it?
Im not sure carolina need a center but for montreal it will be a good trade I think

Galchenyuk_27


The habs won't do it

paolozza


Why not? Desharnais is not a number one center & tlusty could play with plekanec

Galchenyuk_27


JT for DD is fair, Habs won't add a 2nd.

Habs wouldn't even give a 2nd straight up for JT, never mind adding a roster player

Boris Bagel



 

 

04 Dec 2014 18:35:18
As a hockey fan, I love the idea of Yakupov reuniting with Galchenyuk.

To EDM: Eller, Tinordi, Fucale
To MTL: Yakupov
-----
As a pens fan I would like to see bortuzzo in the line up for good. Looks like an Orpik that can actually skate. his suspension was undeserved after Ovi did not get one on Leo Komarov.

To LAK: Martin
To PIT: Richards (30% Retained)

To ARI: Bennett, 1st 2015
To PIT: Boedker

CaPtAiN cAnAdA


@Cap'nCanada I completely agree about Bortuzzo. He is the perfect 3rd pairing guy who could take on 2nd pairing minutes if he had to. What do you think of Martin to Minny for maybe Nino? Martin goes home and we aquire a young guy who can score.

MG69


I think the first trade has value going both ways but for Pitts if they made that trade to get Boedker there is no way they would trade for Richards even with 30% retained they won't have the cap space going forward to have him. I think they would be smarter moving Martin for another dman with term if they already got another top 6 forward

roycer18


Fucale=a futur for the habs
tinordi=a future for the habs
eller=awesome

yak=useless

do u see where i'm getting @

Caryprice31


Arizona trade Pittsburgh overpays.

NHLFunFacts


04 Dec 2014 22:55:39
absolutely no chance AL is retaining salary on richards of they move him.

they're tight to the cap already and having a dead 2 mil there is beyond dumb.

Shankar


Switch Tinordi with Galchenyuk

MasterMatt25


MasterMatt25

If Montreal has Galchenyuk going the other way, it would probably mean Eberle going the other. Or at least Yakupov+

JF12


Oils need to add, maybe Eberle

Boris Bagel


I will add a first pick by mtl and its an off (I think) to have Eberle to!!

Marki04


Lol Eller = awesome. 27 gp. 11 pts and -6 yeah that's awesome.

steamer



 

 

02 Dec 2014 15:19:14
Montreal:Tomas Plekanec

Edmonton:Justin Schutlz

Who needs to add? How much

habsfan22


Plekanec is a better player but Schultz is way younger and has more upside . Montreal adds pick or prospect.

steamer


Oils need to add at least one good player the Habs would want to make a trade

Boris Bagel



 

 

02 Dec 2014 11:47:46
BUF: Stewart
MTL: Reway, 2nd, 5th

sbr2017


Change Reway to Del la Rose , Thrower , Tinordi or Beaulieu. Anyone of these players just not Reway , he probably won't ever play the Nhl.

steamer


@steamer, Murray would love to get Jacob Del la Rose or Nathan Beaulieu and a 2nd for Chris Stewart. I will have test that trade.

sbr2017


Too much for Stewart, just the 5th rounder is enough

Boris Bagel


@sbr2017 , Yeah, Del la Rose and Beaulieu look like great prospects and Montreal probably wouldn't trade either in a deal for Stewart. How about.
Tinordi + 2nd or Thrower +2nd or unlikely Tinordi and Thrower.

steamer


I would do Tinardi. And a 2nd.

sbr2017


@Steamer I would do Tinordi & Thrower, never too many defensive prospects, Bergevin would not offer that much.

sbr2017



 

 

02 Dec 2014 03:52:11
To mtl: nikitin (half salary ratained)

To edm: tom gilbert

Both guys playing like absolute garbage and could use a change of scenery

oilerfreq


More like Nikitin for a bag of pucks

Ebs


Yeah! Wow is he pathetic and insanely slow! Dives instead of clobbering Reider! Do you think any of the other dmen (maybe schultz) would havve dove there? useless bag of garbage! Why is marincin down?

oilerfreq


Habs say BIG NO

Boris Bagel



 

 

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