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24 May 2015 17:30:52
What do you think about this trade :
Sjs : Markstrom + 3rd NYR 2015 round pick
Van : 2nd SJS 2015 pick + 5th and 7th NYI 2015 round pick.
Imo it's a fair deal! Van had 3 goalkeeper and can't afford trade one for add another bigger contract and SJS desesperetly needs one To battle with Stalock!
Morever Van earns several 2015 picks on a depth skilled 2015 draft!
What do you think so?
Thanks for reply and arguments!!
24 May 2015 18:58:48
Not sure if Canucks have a 3rd this year
24 May 2015 20:04:54
They have a NYR 2015 3rd round pick ( source from generalmanager)!
24 May 2015 21:58:51
I think San Jose could get talbot from rangers for cheaper but I like what you're going for. Maybe swap out the 7th for a 6th
24 May 2015 22:42:05
I don't think markstrom is worth 3 picks, and even though he's worth the second, the Sharks NEED to be drafting the next few years. So picks are going to have to be worth more than normal. I don't know too much on Markstrom, we might resign Niemi for 1 yr for trade deadline or for a playoff run. If not, I'd give you 2017 2nd pick for Markstrom. Seems a bit low? Even though I don't think he has value atm. I feel a 3rd is cheap and a 2nd is too much.
24 May 2015 15:37:09
2015 2nd rounder from MTL
2015 2nd rounder
24 May 2015 16:32:27
The rangers one isn't bad? But it wouldn't happen as they just signed staal. The Winnipeg one is horrible. Trouba > draisaitl, 2nd > purcell.
24 May 2015 19:28:12
No way would the Jets trade Trouba.
25 May 2015 06:29:56
i agree. Stall isn't going to be traded. However, I feel that talbot will be in an oilers jersey in this season. It would be for Montreal's 2nd round pick.
23 May 2015 22:31:25
NYR: Cameron Talbot
SJ: 2016 3rd Rnd pick
24 May 2015 00:35:26
Not even close for Talbot
24 May 2015 00:46:57
lol ya if Talbot could be had for a third about 20 teams would offer that he's worth a Good 2nd and a decent prospect or a second in 2016
For SJ think Gobolin and a 2016 3rd?
24 May 2015 01:03:37
not to sure on how to value Talbot as he had one of the best defences in the NHL in front of him, however I'm sure its worth more then a 3rd
24 May 2015 04:51:37
I'm sure EDM would offer up more for Talbot. If they are interested in Talbot that is.
25 May 2015 06:37:28
Oilers will go for him for sure. Offer them montreal's 2nd. If needed oilers 2nd (#33). I think that is a bit too much.
20 May 2015 03:13:16
nyr: schultz + 2nd round pick(mtl) + pakarinen
edm: talbot + boyle
nyr: jordan staal
car: rick nash + 2nd round pick(mtl) + glass
sign every rfa and let walk st.louis
kreider stepan hayes
hagelin brassard zucarrello
miller staal fast
sheppard moore pakarinen
20 May 2015 08:13:08
Wow, you jsut made the Rangers a whole lot worse. That Rick Nash deal is beyond terrible for you guys.
20 May 2015 14:03:59
Really I don't think so Nadja is doing nothing in these playoffs kinda like stamkos these teams better give their heads a shake about these two players
20 May 2015 18:37:37
Stamkos has 12 points in 15 games. Not awesome, but not super bad. He's getting better every game.
21 May 2015 12:02:26
boyle going to retire in the next year or so edm says no
17 May 2015 07:17:04
To Edmonton: McDonagh & Talbot
To NYR: 2015 #16OA & 2016 1st RD & Marincin & L. Brossoit
NYR need cap room. they get 2 high end draft picks and Marincin has good potential and possibly and fresh start could do him a world of good. Brossoit could be a high end goalie to to be mentored by Lundqvist for years to come.
The Oilers get a true #1 D-Man and a goalie with great potential.
Just throwing ideas out there. pick away!
17 May 2015 17:26:25
Congrats on one of the worst trade proposals I've seen. If you want Mcdonagh start with Hall.
16 May 2015 18:14:08
2015 2nd rounder from MTL
16th overall 2015
Rights to Franson -then sign for $5mil x 5 yrs
16 may 2015 20:45:19
so you will lose a 3rd rounder for nothing franson will not sign with the oilers make my words
17 May 2015 02:08:35
As much as it would be nice to see Vlasic in Oilers jersey I think that is an overpatment. Plus the sharks say no as they need D. Oilers have a worse Franson type in Shultz, don't need Franson, he's overrated.
23 May 2015 09:27:15
Trading Vlasic is like trading Doughty, in there respective skill sets. There's no way. Vlasic is a phenomenal Elite D, it would cost and arm and a leg.
15 May 2015 04:02:00
Marincin, 16 overall, second 2015 (via montreal), something to make the cap work
14 May 2015 19:17:38
EDM: 2015 1st Rnd pick (Pitts), Martin Marincin, 2015 2nd Rnd (Oilers)
NYR: Cam Talbot, Marc Staal
I think Edmonton probably needs to add a bit more, but let me know what you think.
14 May 2015 23:25:34
enough with the Talbot trades.
14 May 2015 09:33:18
Ok Now montreal got that Window of 3 or four years years of winning the cup! Compare to the hawks last year of opportunitie and Rangers too who that Window is almost close!
Mon know that galchenyuk got potential but can he bring us 60 to 70 points a year we will know in a few year but by then we need to make a shot at the number 1 center even if it cost a lot that will help the pressure off chucky shoulder at least!
Mon: 1st of 2016, 1st 2017, pleckaneck or eller, andrigetho
Then trade the other of the two center with Beaulieu
Ok that yakupov move help chucky with is confidence and is big lack is that! So by putting him with is old teamate he will be able to pick up were he left off in junior! And give yakupov a help on is carreer
One last thing sign beleskey sure he would consider hab being pk old teamate and devante good friend just like that we help are offense!
Hudon- desharnais - weise
Prust-delarose - Mccaron( nhl ready)
14 May 2015 13:52:31
again, what makes you think COL is trading duchene at all, lwt alone for a couple 20+ oa 1sts and a couple pieces of trash.
14 May 2015 15:33:13
More like Montreal has a three to four year window of making the playoffs. Once you get past Price, Pacioretty and Subban, pickins are pretty slim.
14 May 2015 16:51:35
Duchene isn't going anywhere, and definitely not for two late 1sts, their choice of an above average 3rd line center, and a mediocre prospect.
14 May 2015 17:57:34
yaks not going for a center u need to add a defense men
14 May 2015 18:03:32
What do you think that. Beaulieu is yak?
14 May 2015 18:05:08
Shank they got mac who could play center of the first Line! Andrigetho ain't mediocre they want him in Colorado cause is old coach is there
15 May 2015 01:40:30
Why would the Oil trade Yak for that?. That's like saying we'll give you Marincin for Galchenyuk
15 May 2015 04:38:44
more defensmen edm has centre depth with lander drais mcdavid nuge gordan or u could add picks
15 May 2015 08:09:50
With all you're respect chucky got more value then yakupov
And Beaulieu bether then marincin
15 May 2015 15:56:13
I think next season will be there breakout years (cross my fingers) so we'll see and I'm not to sure about Beaulieu but still Yak would get way more
13 May 2015 09:00:51
Oilers fans/non-fans alike make terrible proposals all the time and I decided I'd make a better one or two.
Oilers need a goalie.
My vote is to go after Niemi. He's a vet, he's proven, he's a UFA. Just got to offer him a decent contract. Ordinarily that wouldn't be so easy from an Oilers standpoint but they've made huge strides in the past month or so (and still a coach to hire, likely Mclellan) so they're looking a lot more appealing. I'd offer him 3yr/16mil. Alternatively, there is a spare goalie in Ottawa but we don't know who that is yet so I'm not going to broach that. My other alternate would be Talbot from NYR. 16th overall. If that's not enough, add a B-prospect. No more.
Dmen wise, I would call up Sekera. He's not the best dman in the world but would be a step up and cost less than some of the others available. If Mike Green were as good as he used to be then I'd take a shot at him but he isn't, plus he is more an offensive dman. 2yrs/5mil for Sekera. The appeal of a growing team (with McD and a good coach) either draws him in, or it doesn't. Alternatives are, IMO, trades. Two ideas:
To EDM: Seabrook
To CHI: Klefbom, Pitts 1st
And I'm a BIG fan of Klefbom. But Seabrook is obviously more developed and could be a steady hand for years to come. I'd initially offer Marincin and the 1st but doubt it would work. My only nail-biter about this would be that Seabrook is due for a big extension and one would have to merely hope that he would re-sign. My alternative:
To EDM: Faulk, Ward, B-prospect
To CAR: Eberle, Yakimov
Faulk is a good developing dman, Ward is a local boy who has been up and down in net and is coming off a big contract next year (in other words a risk), and Eberle (while I'd hate to move him) would be a huge addition to that Canes team, and Yakimov is looking like a very good addition to C depth in Edmonton, but is also looking like the odd man out with RNH, McDavid, Draisaitl, Lander, Gordon, and possibly Roy coming into the fold next season.
These aren't perfect by any means, and are off the top of my head, but didn't want to get flooded with "blarp! Yous post proplosels then, ya blarp!" from people who hate me simply because I disagree with crap proposals.
Anyhoo. Done and done. Complain away.
13 May 2015 09:47:01
Re: Sekera proposal, I meant 5mil/yr. I didn't type that correctly.
13 May 2015 14:54:13
This is a pretty solid post. But I don't think Talbot would cost a mid-first. I also think Edmonton would have to add on that Carolina trade. Faulk is such an underrated defender
13 May 2015 16:07:41
Signing UFA goalies didn't work for Van or CGY and I have a feeling it won't work form Oilers either, can't build a team through free agency. Faulk definitely is underrated but considering we're taking Ward back maybe something could be worked out. And I would hate to give up Klefbom for an aging Seabrook with no contract left.
13 May 2015 21:18:00
no from chicago, I think they would be looking for more value. It would probably take Pits 1st, a decent d prospect, and I could see them wanting draisaitl to hopefully answer their problem at center on the second line in the future.
13 May 2015 23:10:28
for the most part its a solid post, but you know me i'll pick away at anything.
chicago would want draisaitl for sure as a starting point for seabrook.
i don't like the eberle trade, faulk is good, but not the type of dman the oilers need imo, going after ward could be a smart move, I would trade hall before eberle. oil get a lot more in return
i would stay away from niemi, just don't think he's all that great, had a stellar team in front of him to win that cup in chi before leaving for san jose, and we all know how well that worked out. lehner is young and solid,
maybe work out something like hall for lehner, cowen stone/hoffman + +?
you do know i'm leafs first oilers second right?
14 May 2015 00:56:36
You bag on everyone here for their ideas and this is what you post? Good God the hypocrisy is off the charts.
15 May 2015 02:36:23
Yakupov doesn't have much trade value due to his poor play and bad contract.
15 May 2015 09:38:53
@quinnjj Yakupov's contract is 2 years at $2.5 million/season. How is that a bad contract?
13 May 2015 04:25:50
Great serie tampa! Great offense but I think that there are still a lack at d compare to the other team still standing! But other then that tampa was a bether team then montreal!
Im going to be on tampa side if they go againts New York! You bether beat them!
But I still think that the final is going to be Washington vs Anaheim
Of course it would have been great if hab won the cup, But on the good side I rather be losing Now then later cause that give is a bether draft pick!
Its no hate but even if tampa reach the final they still loose and loose a bether draft pick!
For the post Now
Emelin need to be trade i'm always scare when he got the puck but still give us good physical play
So trade mon: emelin for a 2nd
Trade : eller, 2016 2nd and thomas, Beaulieu
Rangers: kevin hayes,Rangers 1st
Best situation at the draft: draft kylington or even bether werensky cause d man seem to drop sometime
Ny 1st: debrusk winger with potential
And if early 2nd rounder draft : dergachev hope he drop cause of the russian factor
13 May 2015 12:40:22
Rangers don't have a first and WHY would the even consider this?
13 May 2015 18:46:49
I might be slightly biased and I've said it numerous times on here, but I really feel like TB's D is actually pretty good.
Hedman-Stralman is a great first pairing. Stralman has been amazing and I can't name 5 guys skating better than Hedman.
Garrison and Coburn make up a great second pair, experience, booming shot from Garrison, saolid defensively.
As for spots 5 thru 7, they got several solid options, atm going with Carle (top 4 guy, too), Sustr and Nesterov as a 7th and PP-quarterback.
IMO definitely better than ANA and WSH defense and on par with the hawks and rangers.
13 May 2015 21:19:23
bad trade for the rangers and I don't think they would get a second for emelin he's not on the greatest contract
13 May 2015 22:45:48
No hate but lindholm is a stud! Beauchemin is still reliable,
Fowler and vatanen are great also! Despres good still for ana
So yes hedman is a bether number 1 then lindhom
But the top four is bether then the top 4 in tampa
14 May 2015 09:17:30
So Lindholm, Beauchemin, Fowler, Vatanen > Hedman, Stralman, Garrison, Coburn?
I don't think so.
12 May 2015 18:15:55
2016 2nd rounder
NYR shed 3.5-4 million in cap space get a great prospect an downgrade in backup goalie and can afford to lose a dman
Oilers get a good goalie finally and a one year dman to cover until nurse is ready and a pick to cover the difference
12 May 2015 23:24:38
Talbot is the same kind of gamble Scrivens was. Look at NYR defense, stacked just like LA when Scrivens was there.
And I really think Draisitl can get more then that, pair him with pens 1st. should get a decent return.
12 May 2015 14:02:17
Rangers trade Talbot
Sharks trade 2015 4th
23 May 2015 13:07:49
2015 4th, 2016 2nd
I would do that.
10 May 2015 20:33:26
NYR: Talbot, Boyle
EDM: 2015 1st(Pit), Schultz, Fraser
10 May 2015 22:02:55
It's close, but I think Edm says no. And would try to use the Pens first and if Shultz is available then him as well in a package to try and get a better top D, not so old either.
11 May 2015 22:56:33
boyle is in his late 30s.
09 May 2015 15:49:33
2015 2nd (33) overall
Scrivins (cap dump)
16th overall this year
2016 first rounder lottery protected
2015 4th rounder
Rights to Franson
Mtl 2nd rounder
2016 3rd rounder
09 May 2015 16:51:41
Since when did Mrzaek play on Nashville
09 May 2015 17:17:32
Marek mzarek not petr
10 May 2015 05:12:02
No from Edmonton for both. Jones would be awesome but that's a pretty big price to pay
10 May 2015 09:23:24
First of all the guys name isn't Mrazek it's Mazanec and he only played 2 games in the NHL this year. This trade is probably the worst I've seen from an Oilers perspective ever, Franson is UFA so he can just walk if he wants to.
Scrivens > Mazanec
Draisaitl, Schultz, 16 oa 2015, 1:st 2016 and a 4:th 2015 > Jones
What the fuck are you smoking if you think this would improve the Oilers.
10 May 2015 10:02:28
I think he's called Marek Mazaned, not Mrazek.
But anyways, how do the Oilers need Talbot, Subban and Mazanec.
09 May 2015 02:47:57
Oilers:Yandle,Talbot. NYR:marincin 1(pits) round 2015 3 round 2016
09 May 2015 13:09:32
This doesn't even get Yandle alone.Loos at what Yandle got from NYR and work from there.
09 May 2015 14:40:12
Agreed Yandle got a boatload from the rangers and they aren't just going to flip him for a worse package
09 May 2015 15:29:48
I'm an oilers fan and I agree, this isn't even close and that trade doesn't get you Yandle alone. Besides, oilers need more of a defensive defenseman than Yandle.
07 May 2015 03:12:59
Considering the fact that we were about to trade plackaneck for yandle one year it just seem fair that he get the same value of yandle considering that the market is the same!
Mon: pleckaneck ( at the deadline )
Det: larkin or mantha and a first
Mon will lose to tampa but to be honest I don't see tampa going to the final they still lack at d compare to the Rangers and caps
Ducs win it all vs the caps in 6 games
07 May 2015 08:27:56
Hahaha lol, no, just no. A Pleckaneck for Yandle deal would have been a steal, to bad for you guys Bergvin didn't do it! A mid second and a deasent prospect or rosterplayer with potential is more likely.
07 May 2015 11:35:29
LARKIN OR MANTHA PLUS A 1ST?!?!?!?
That must be for a top line center. Oh wait it's Plekanec. Massive overpayment
07 May 2015 14:12:45
BAHAHA and you say leaf fans yet you try to get one of Detroit's best prospects for an aging 2nd or 3rd line center. They wouldn't include those prospects in a trade for a position they actually need (Phaneuf) so what makes you think they would do it for Plekenacs?
07 May 2015 15:42:08
LOL in what world is a return of yandle equivalent to a return of larkin/mantha + a 1st?
07 May 2015 17:29:41
this trade is just really bad.
07 May 2015 19:40:41
Did I say if the market was the same? Plus duclair= larkin
08 May 2015 12:00:55
There is NO way that was the trade. Plekanak is at best a 2nd line center and Montreal would add a lot more
09 May 2015 01:05:34
U don't seem to quite get the fact that any team at the deadline overpay to get a boost , so the market was hight i'm sure that if habs were in leafs position they would have gotten yandle value for that cause he was the best forward who would have been on the market at the time
09 May 2015 16:58:53
Montrealfinest, we are all biased to are favored team, but not like that, I mean come on
Larkin or Mantha in themselves > Old Plekanec
Add a first? Come on.
03 May 2015 07:50:28
Since the goal is to get a Stanley cup! Montreal need to get is hand on a 1 Line center even if it cost the future! Its way easier to build around the best goalie in the world then on some offense like blues and shark did!
Montreal: galchenyuk, desharnais
Colorado: Matt duchenne
Mon: same thing+hudon
With that Montreal has cover some lack on offence!
I hope that if habs don't beat tampa This year then tampa will beat the damn Rangers and get to the final!
The Rangers don't deserve it!
03 May 2015 17:21:16
So last years Stanley cup finalist and this seasons President Trophy winner doesn't deserve to win? LOL bitter because of last years loss?
03 May 2015 19:37:43
We would have won that if it wasent from price injury!
03 May 2015 22:29:41
You can't say they would have won. Price is one player, it takes a team.
04 May 2015 02:46:27
The habs are not built to win in the playoffs.
04 May 2015 06:35:35
No you wouldn't have!
04 May 2015 18:31:02
Take out lundquist last year and the Rangers are not the same
03 May 2015 00:01:55
Oilers:Talbot. Nyr:2016 2round 2015 4 or 5 round
02 May 2015 09:55:22
01 May 2015 23:55:47
Fixing oilers problems in 3 trades/signings
Edm: Schultz or marincin, 1st round 2015 (Pitt), khaira
This trade makes to much sense for me, edm finally gets there top 2 dman, Chicago gets a good young defencemen who will develop nicely there plus a first round pick and prospect and they shed cap.
Edm: Ederle, marincin or Schultz,3rd round pick 2015
Nyr: Marc staal or Keith yandle, cam talbot
Then sign ,
Sign sekera (if nyr deal doesn't work out)
Sign Niemi (if nyr deal doesn't work out)
Solves all of our problems we did have to give up eberle and a couple of solid pieces but you have to give up to get.