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23 Jul 2016 22:08:46
just wanna know thoughts of the VALUE and value only of this trade (so count out player needs and cap space)

Nyr: Pietrangelo, Berglund, Barbashev,

Stl: Nash (50%retain), Klein, Miller, 2nd rounder 2018 (Ottawa), Graves.

23 Jul 2016 22:54:43
A bunch a scraps for the 2nd coming of Bobby Orr? Easy no for the Blues!

23 Jul 2016 23:43:50
Petriangelo is untouchable, and so is barbashev. The value is way off incase you're wondering

24 Jul 2016 00:13:51
Value isn't close. Rangers can't give Nash away as it is, Klein is a good D, but just not a game changer, and those guys never get the same value. Pietrangelo and berglund would need to be pried away from the blues and I just don't see this package being near enough.

24 Jul 2016 01:52:51
That's a he'll no.

23 Jul 2016 17:37:19
Nyr: Shattenkirk, Jaskim

Stl: Miller, Klein, if shattenkirk resigns 2nd in 2018.

23 Jul 2016 19:34:53
I'd rather keep Miller.

23 Jul 2016 23:48:46
The Rangers wouldn't wanna pay Shattenkirk 7mil. Considering Shattenkirk for Draisaitl got turned down. Imagine what they'd be asking for from the Rangers. But Shattenkirk is worth more than that package. Probably sending a dman back makes more sense

24 Jul 2016 01:54:54
No go.

24 Jul 2016 01:58:28
Rather keep shatty.

24 Jul 2016 03:45:40
Johnny you think the blues turned down Shattenkirk for Draisaitl?

23 Jul 2016 17:14:34
Min:Matt Dumba

NYR: JT Miller

Who adds fills both teams needs. I think a lot of you guys on this site might not no who he is so you might underrate him like you guys do for most of the players in the Eastern Conference.

JT Miller: 82GP 22G 21A 43P +- +10 age 23

He is a very young player with a bright future.

23 Jul 2016 18:41:57
I liked kreider for Dumba better as the value was closer. But this is still not bad, both are young players and it fits positional needs. Good trade but NYR may need to add something small.

23 Jul 2016 20:39:11
McJesus do you realize that Miller>>>>>>>Krieder.

23 Jul 2016 21:49:49
If I'm NYR I'd rather not move Miller. I'd look at moving Hayes, Stepan and a few guys on the backend before him. Dumba would be nice in NYR but he's not exactly a need for them. Watched JT Miller play a bit now. Very underrated like you said. Plays a strong 2 way game, zooms around on the ice, fearless and last season he even made his line mates play better.

23 Jul 2016 22:47:19
BJ I agree with you but you need to give to get right maybe the could base it around Staphan but min would need to add a center.

23 Jul 2016 23:49:19
I feel Dumba could get more.

23 Jul 2016 02:05:23
OTT: Dion Phaneuf
NYR: Marc Staal

Who adds? I think it's fair.

23 Jul 2016 04:46:52
Ottawa adds.

23 Jul 2016 04:46:52
Ottawa adds.

23 Jul 2016 09:22:32
Ottawa adds? Are you for real right now? They are similar in stats and similar in age.

23 Jul 2016 15:08:39
Well, the Rangers would take this and run. One player can play hockey and the othe4 sucks.

23 Jul 2016 17:01:24
I'd much rather have 5 mil then 7mil.

23 Jul 2016 01:08:37
NYR:Mark Staal

Car:Ron Hanisey and 2017 3rd/ 2nd

This is a cap trade for the Rangers I also think Staal would really bring good Character to the dressing room and effectively log top minutes.

23 Jul 2016 07:27:05
not enough for stall.

23 Jul 2016 08:22:04
Really Ovies hero i'd say Giradi and Staal have similar value.

23 Jul 2016 08:43:38
yea and hainsy plus a 3rd.

22 Jul 2016 05:45:22
Rangers: Kreider

Wild: Dumba

Positional needs?

22 Jul 2016 15:49:38
I would've said yes to this to trade but I think Kredier got resigned today.

22 Jul 2016 18:09:38
Ugh he did!
Well 10 hours ago he wasn't signed lol.

21 Jul 2016 15:53:58
NYR- Marc staal (40% retained)
Cap hit will be 3,420,000

PIT-Ian Cole, Chirs Kunitz,4th

EDM-Nail Yakpov

PIT-3rd

I read somewhere that PC is asking for a 3rd for yak but if the 3rd doesn't work use a 2nd

Thoughts?

21 Jul 2016 18:07:27
No way that's true pensfan; that all chiarelli wants is a late 3rd. Chia needs to lay low after the hall trade. Surprisingly, yak is a fan favorite (everyone here is rooting for him to turn it around) . He gets traded for a used-dull-zamboni blade, there will be blood.

Pete: "Nail has never said to me he wants a trade". Still true to date.

21 Jul 2016 19:29:41
Chiarelli definitely does not want just a 3rd idk what low life article you read. That's completely false. Yak supposedly never asked Chiarelli for a trade, just like Ronny said. He's not going to trade him for the hell of it.

21 Jul 2016 19:44:06
Yeah I don't know if Yak is a fan favourite. As a person yeah but as a player no.

20 Jul 2016 22:57:49
Rangers Trades:
Marc Staal

Carolina Trades:
2nd rounder 2017 (Rangers)
5th rounder 2018

Carolina gets a veteran presence to all their young defense, and Jordan gets to play with his brother
Rangers get free of cap space while having a shot at offer sheet on Kucherov
thoughts and/ or possible minor changes? :)

20 Jul 2016 23:24:15
Do the Rangers have the picks to offer sheet Kuch? They kinda throw then around a lot.

20 Jul 2016 23:45:27
I literally don't think any team will be ant Marc Staal and that contract of his. No chance. Maybe if you throw in some 1st round picks and high end prospects. No chance whatsoever.

21 Jul 2016 00:26:34
No way Carolina makes this deal. They need forwards, not defense, and they certainly don't want his contract. And he has a NMC.

21 Jul 2016 00:55:25
Goes from rumor to random with that Kucherov offersheet.

21 Jul 2016 02:03:56
to jbs32: if rangers take back their 2nd rounder 2017 then yes they have the picks for a offer sheet.

21 Jul 2016 03:20:29
D3vsL1fe I'd rather have Staal then Phaneuf. Staal can get trade but NJ would probably have to add a cap dump.

21 Jul 2016 06:30:12
Not New Jersey. Carolina I meant.

19 Jul 2016 22:05:34
NYR:Rick Nash

Buffalo: Evander Kane and a 2nd Rd 2017

E. Kane dosent have a lot of value right now but he dose have a lot of skill and could really payoff if not they can send them to vagas Buffalo gets the better player and would bring a positive locker room presence.

NYR: Derek Stephan

Montreal: Thomas Plekanec, Sherbac, Noah Juulsion and a 2nd 2017/ 3rd 2017

Is this trade fair? Stephan would look good in Montreal.

19 Jul 2016 22:50:16
I like the Nash trade, and the Stephan one I'm not familiar with the two prospects so I don't know. But I do like the Nash one, however I saw rangers are interested in Girgensons.
Do you thinks Kane and Girg would be a good offer for Nash?

19 Jul 2016 23:21:28
As a Rangers fan I would take Kane ang Girgensons for Nash. Sure Nash will give you 35-40 goals but at some point you got to think about the future. As a fellow swede and Rangers fan I feel bad for Hank because he had his shot at the cup agains the Kings.

19 Jul 2016 23:25:27
Yah I mean you could swap the 2nd for Gerg I think it'd still be fair.

20 Jul 2016 00:06:16
I made this proposal 9 days ago lol.

20 Jul 2016 01:29:20
I think it's too much for Stepan especially with his 8 million dollar salary for this year.

Sherbak will probably turn out to be a decent 2nd liner.

And Noah Juulsen might possibly turn out the be a top 4 defenceman.

New York would take this.

20 Jul 2016 01:34:39
Habs pass, way too much.

20 Jul 2016 02:26:07
I wouldn't mind Stepan as our 2nd line C, but i don't see the Rangers trading him after the Brassard trade. Replace Sherbak with Hudon and that would work.

20 Jul 2016 02:42:21
I would like the Stephan in a Habs jersey.

20 Jul 2016 05:50:29
Plek > Stepan . why would Habs add 2 top prospects and picks?

20 Jul 2016 18:23:37
I'm a huge Habs fan and Boris makes me hate seeing MTL posts.

20 Jul 2016 20:47:25
Boris: Fredrick Andersson>Carey Price.

21 Jul 2016 06:27:22
Plekanec had 54 points last year, and has three 60+ point seasons in career

Stepan only 53 points and has never even scored 60 points

54 > 53 according to Corsi and math

Plekanec is even better in playoffs than Stepan, 0.57 PPG to 0.51 PPG
0.57 > 0.51 according to Corsi and math.

18 Jul 2016 19:06:51
Wow kinda big trade just happend, I find it surprising.

Rangers trade - Derrik Brassard
Senators trade - Mika Zibanejad

Thoughts?

18 Jul 2016 19:20:11
Rangers win the trade. Mika has had back to back 50 point seasons and is only 23, plus a second rounder. Brassard is good as well putting up 3 50 plus point seasons but the youth difference and the second rounder help push the trade win to the Rangers!

18 Jul 2016 19:24:13
Also 2018 2nd going to Rangera, and 2018 7th going to Senators. No 2nds for the next 2 years for Ottawa as of now.

18 Jul 2016 19:26:02
New York got a really good deal in my opinion. And they got a 2nd round and gave up a 7th.

18 Jul 2016 19:50:48
Not happy about this trade as a Sens fan. But I see what Dorion is trying to do.

18 Jul 2016 20:03:15
Win for the Rangers. Younger Player and a 2nd rounder, and don't drop in offensive production as they were very similar last season in points.

18 Jul 2016 20:05:09
Imo I think it's a good trade each team but Rangers get a slight advantage. Simimilar production, Zbad is younger, and I think he'll be better then Brassard is now once he hits that age.

18 Jul 2016 20:57:25
This seem pretty bad for Ottawa.

18 Jul 2016 21:25:15
I'm trying to look at this unbiased. I still think everyone is under rating Brassard. Although I think the Rangers won the trade I don't think you guys are giving Brassard enough credit.

18 Jul 2016 22:53:30
Brassard is the better player as of now.

19 Jul 2016 03:07:31
@Ebsolutely, you're probably right but Zibanejad isn't that far behind Brassard and he's 5 years younger.

19 Jul 2016 06:31:31
I'd take Zbad over Brasard with age and contracts considered.

18 Jul 2016 18:58:48
Ottawa zbad and 2nd

Nyr brassard and 7th.

18 Jul 2016 18:53:58
Confirmed trade:

Rangers: Brassard

Sens: Zibanejad + 2018 2nd round.

20 Jul 2016 01:38:32
Sens add.

18 Jul 2016 11:25:09
NYR: Rick Nash
CLB: Scott Hartnell
TB: Ryan Callahan, Matt Carle, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd

NYR gets
Callahan, 2nd
CLB gets
Carle, 2nd, 3rd

TB: Brian Boyle
EDM: 2nd, Mark Letestu

TB: Ben Bishop, JT Brown
VAN: Thatcher Demko, Jake Virtanen

TB: Anton Stralman, Brayden Point, Nikita Gusev
CGY: Dougie Hamilton, Emile Poirier, Morgan Klimchuk

Sign Luke Schenn

Hartnell - Stamkos - Nash
Palat - Johnson - Kucherov
Killorn - Namestnikov - Drouin
Letestu - Filppula - Virtanen

Hedman - Hamilton
Garrison - Sustr
Schenn - Coburn

Vaseilevsky
Demko

Cup champions.

18 Jul 2016 12:28:17
You are seriously freaking insane if you think Tampa can take on that much salary, and Carle was already bought out.

18 Jul 2016 12:28:30
By the beard of Zeus what is this?

18 Jul 2016 14:58:14
Yah I Doubt either team dose the Stralman/ Hamilton swap.

18 Jul 2016 16:53:34
Carle is bought out, why would you want Letestu (and he's a centerman), the Vancouver trade is AWFUL, Rangers traded away Callahan they won't want him back, and the Calgary trade is dumb. You're literally out of your mind.

18 Jul 2016 17:26:09
Don't feed the troll guys. There are terrible.

18 Jul 2016 03:24:11
CHI trades
- Marian Hossa (7.9mil)
NYR trades
- Rick Nash (7.9mil)

Or

CHI trades
- Marian Hossa (7.9mil) (25% Retained)
- 3rd Round Pick
CLB trades
- Scott Hartnell (5mil)

18 Jul 2016 05:01:49
I can't see Hossa being moved, even though Nash could be pretty crazy in Chicago. Also 0% the second trade happens.

18 Jul 2016 11:17:21
Hossa will play third line with Krueger next season and he is OK with it.

18 Jul 2016 14:15:38
Hossa only makes 5.275 cap hit and 4 mill cash next season. Not a chance Chicago takes on Nash at 7.8 cap hit and 8million cash. Hosea is slowing down a bit but can still provide some offence and is integral to balancing the lineup for the Hawks. When he struggles to put up points he does a million other things to help them win, including back checking harder than guys 10 years younger. When Nash struggles to find the net, he disappears. A cap strapped team can't have guys making over 10% of the teams cap showing up for 30-35 games a year.

19 Jul 2016 05:47:48
If Chicago retained 25% of hossas cap, Hartnell would be more expensive and overall, not an improvement. With a longer summer, hossa should have a better season next year then last year. I watch Chicago a lot and the amount of posts and near misses he had, could of had twice the goals last year, maybe some better luck this year could be 25-30 goals and still a top defensive forward even at his age. At 5.275 mil, he's still a good cap hit, Nash at this point is way to much money.

18 Jul 2016 00:50:09
NYR get
- Dion Phaneuf
OTT gets
- Rick Nash

Fair? Who adds?

18 Jul 2016 03:30:57
Lol I guess cap is the same haha.

18 Jul 2016 03:40:42
Ottawa adds a lot.

18 Jul 2016 04:22:42
Does NYR need anymore LHD? McDonagh, Staal, MciLrath.

18 Jul 2016 06:19:14
Ottawa adds? Get off the pipe. Phaneuf was a bust in Toronto, but in Ottawa, he can relax a bit being in the shadow of Karlsson. He's actually playing pretty good.

18 Jul 2016 07:31:03
He also has a lot more term than Nash on a high cap.

18 Jul 2016 12:31:36
Jesus a Rags defense of Staal, Girardi, and Phaneuf would be hilarious.

18 Jul 2016 15:09:27
Seabass he gets payed 7 mil to be an average top 4 dman for many years and he will move Down the depth chart as he gets older. Nash is signed for only two more years and he's still affective as a 1st line winger but had 1 off year.

17 Jul 2016 10:55:53
TOR: Jake Gardiner, James Van Riemsdyk, Josh Leivo
NYR: Derick Brassard, Chris Kreider

CGY: Jakub Nakladal, Tyler Wotherspoon
TOR: Kasperi Kapanen, Byron Froese

EDM: Mark Fayne, Mark Letestu
TOR: Brooks Laich, Peter Holland, 2017 6th Round Pick


Kreider - Kadri - Matthews
Komarov - Brassard - Nylander
Michalek - Bozak - Marner
Greening - Letestu - Boyes

Reilly - Polak
Hunwick - Fayne
Nakladal - Wotherspoon.

17 Jul 2016 15:17:37
I'd do JVR for Krieder and a small add. But I don't think Rangers Wanna trade brassard and I don't wanna trade Gardiner. But I think the Leafs would take that deal.

17 Jul 2016 15:22:14
Marc Bergevin, is that really you!?

17 Jul 2016 18:16:37
The Oil trade I think both teams say no, doesn't really help out either team, especially Oilers and the cap hit of Letestu and Fayne are close to just Laich himself while Holland is RFA I think.

17 Jul 2016 01:47:23
NYR- Nash

Van- Tryamkin, Demko, Burrows (retain 1mill)

17 Jul 2016 05:04:21
Demko will never be part of a trade. So no.

17 Jul 2016 06:25:12
Agreed with Mcjesus. Sorry but Demko is untouchable unless we're getting Matt Murray, Vasi, John Gibson, or Hellebuyck (obviously not happening) I wouldn't move Tryamkin for Nash straight up because adding Nash makes no sense for Vancouver. Maybe if we didn't sign Loui Erikkson.

17 Jul 2016 06:37:29
Nash does make sense because Vancouver needs scoring wingers. And idk who tryamkin is but Nash could be good on Nucks.

16 Jul 2016 20:22:11
Apparently Shattenkirk would take a pay cut to play with Rangers.

Blues: Shattenkirk

Rangers: Stephan

Rangers get somebody on blue line to replace Yandle for offense/ bolster their d core, Blues get a #1 centerman.
I was thinking of putting Kreider but colt already "insisted" they don't need another LW. So I think Stephan works better.

16 Jul 2016 21:04:14
Doubt the Rangers would be willing to move Stephan but Brassard would be an intriguing possibility.

16 Jul 2016 21:54:59
Maybe if Rangers could move out Staal or Girardi. Also no from Rangera of the cost is Stepan. Maybe Brassard, but wouldn't be much of an upgrade for the Blues over Stastny then.

16 Jul 2016 21:57:31
Yeah true Charles I was thinking that as well, I just wasn't sure if Brassard was enough for Shattenkirk regarding St Louis' asking price, I was trying to keep it 1 for 1.

16 Jul 2016 22:07:08
Yah big no from Rangers Shatenkurk is so overrated he is only a top 4.

16 Jul 2016 22:49:57
Dint want brassard and Stephen is to small. Blues have to many small players already need a big physical type pkayer.

16 Jul 2016 22:56:15
"Apparently" shattenkirk would take a pay cut to play on an aging and becoming progressively worse rangers team. I think not.

17 Jul 2016 01:05:59
Bar do you have facts to back up your comment on shatty . He is top 2 and gets 50 pts. But your right top 4 only lol.

17 Jul 2016 01:15:27
tnkie, do you have facts to back up your comment about shatty?

because he has never scored 50 points and you can't say a defenceman is a top pairing guy just because he scores X amount of points.

17 Jul 2016 01:35:09
Linda I guess you know everything though right. Oh ok.
Colt what year did he get 50 points again? Oh yeah he hasn't I forgot. If he was top 2 he would stay on blues btw. And you don't want Brassard or Stephan? Oh that sucks because maybe the actual team would. Brassard is 6'1 and Stephan is 6'. But I guess that's too small. Wow.

17 Jul 2016 02:09:46
He is a 3/ 4 wants to much money.

17 Jul 2016 02:19:17
Jake Gardiner has better possession stats then Shatenkurk enough said.

17 Jul 2016 05:06:01
Bro Shattenkirk > Gardiner by far lol.

17 Jul 2016 05:41:20
46pts and he did twice in with missing 10 games or more. If shattenkirk ranks in the top thirty of dmen which he does that means ge is top pairing because it requires 60 dmen to be a top pairing so that means he is a solid #2 and in some cases a #1 he he was on Edmonton or Boston he would be #1 rhd.

17 Jul 2016 05:47:38
I'm just saying Jake Gardiner has better possession stats I'm not saying he's a better player.

17 Jul 2016 06:32:06
Any other player that misses 10 games or more are injury prone and have no value.

17 Jul 2016 07:04:04
you just made a claim (that shattenkirk is a top 30 defenceman) without providing any justification.

anf you ask people to back up their opinions with facts? such a joke.

17 Jul 2016 07:28:12
Actually apparently you know everything jesus because you seem to be the only one "hearing" these ridiculous rumors.

17 Jul 2016 07:46:12
New York Daily News, write it down in your diary Linda. And "these ridiculous" rumours? lol okay pal in your dreams.

18 Jul 2016 18:25:49
Shankar what do you ever add to this site except your snarky replies.

Yahoo ranks shatty about 23.

16 Jul 2016 13:43:50
Bruins/ Rangers
Krejci Rinaldo for Nash K. Hayes

Bruins/ Flyers
Chara for Streit Bellemard

Bruins/ Flames
Rask Morrow for Eliott Wideman.

16 Jul 2016 14:55:37
I'm done saying that your trades are lopsided for the othe other teams so I'll just make a trade suggestion.

Boston: Krejci

Nashville: Kevin Fiala, 2017 1st and 2017 2nd/ Kamenev.

Now this trades good for Boston.

16 Jul 2016 15:04:01
Nashville declines to much cap going there way.

16 Jul 2016 18:20:52
Then take out the 2nd and add cap but that trade favours Boston.

16 Jul 2016 18:28:41
Fiala won't be getting traded.

16 Jul 2016 19:09:33
Because he's their top prospect and will forsure make the roster this season. And too much for a declining Krejci who is injury prone now.

15 Jul 2016 06:32:50
Rangers: Kreider +?

Wild: Dumba + Grandlund.

15 Jul 2016 06:53:13
Cmon mcj you can't post a rumor and not fill it and just put +?

15 Jul 2016 08:20:59
NY have Stepan and Brassard already so not sure if Granlunds a fit.

15 Jul 2016 08:25:22
lol is this a rumour? No. I just put it out, instead of asking why I didn't put anything because clearly I didn't know what to put, why don't you answer it for me.

15 Jul 2016 08:39:03
I have Grandlund as LW, not center. But yes true. And also this can work if Stephan is dealt, which I think there is a stone possibility of.

But I want to know who else would go from rangers if anyone would go along with Kreider, I'm not sure. That's why I put the question mark, I don't know.

15 Jul 2016 08:39:33
Please * ^.

15 Jul 2016 14:27:18
That would have to be a big add IMO Dumba>/ =Kriender.

 
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