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22 Apr 2015 18:21:39
Never going to happen, but let's have some fun!
oilers trade mcdavid for:
Boston - Krejci, Lucic, Malcom Subban, first round pick.
Columbus - Ryan Johansen, Jack Johnson First round pick.
NYR - Stepan, Girardi, Talbot
Pit - Malkin, Maata
Tampa - Tyler Johnson, Ben Bishop First round pick
Colorado - Duchene, Erik Johnson
LA - Kopitar, Martinez, Greene
Preds - Forsberg, Josi, Volchenkov
Sharks - Couture, Vlasic, First round pick
STL - Berglund, Shattenkirk, Elliot
22 Apr 2015 21:31:26
Heavy on some, light on others. Drop Krejci from the Boston trade, add for the Tampa trade, Ranger trade might be heavy too.
22 Apr 2015 21:45:09
easy no from edmonton on the boston one. Lucic isn't worth the money and term he's going to get on his next contract. Krejci is a solid player but his injuries would scare me off. Subban was awful in his first appearance in the nhl this year and he has yet to prove anything at this level edmonton would need something more for sure.
Johansen would be nice but with his contract coming up they would have to make sure he would resign. Johnson is solid but he isn't a number one guy. Their first rounder would be nice but I just think overall edmonton would say no but its close.
New york trade isn't close. easy no from edmonton.
Pittsburgh is one I think they would have to think about but overall I think both teams would say no.
Edmonton says no on the tampa trade. Hedman instead of the first would make it a lot closer if I was edmonton.
No from both teams on the colorado trade they are in no position to give up defense for offense
Kopitar would be an amazing add but the rest of the package isn't great. Marinez and greene both look better because they play on one of the best defensive teams in the league
no from edmonton on the preds they need a second line center but its close.
no from edmonton for the sharks deal I don't think the trade would work for either teams
easy no from edmonton on the st louis trade
22 Apr 2015 22:34:59
None are even close
23 Apr 2015 14:59:03
Hedman instead of the first? So you suggest a franchise #1 defenseman, a franchise #1 goalie and probably one of if not the best 2nd line center in the NHL (Hedman and TJ still young, developing and on very good contracts)? Keep on dreaming. there's absolutely no incentive for TB to trade for MacDavid, not to say that package.
28 Apr 2015 01:40:39
Oilers would not exept any of these trades
20 Apr 2015 00:22:34
Couple of trades involving Leafs (all are different scenarios):
Yotes/Leafs trade (exchanging #3 and #4 picks)
2015 1st (draft Noah Hanifin)
2016 1st (the NYR pick from the Yandle deal)
2015 1st (draft Dylan Strome)
TOR keeps Smith for the tank.
Draft day deal featuring Leafs/Preds
Phil Kessel (TOR retains 40% of salary)
20 Apr 2015 09:35:51
So you trade Nylander twice?
Despite, none of them are realistic
20 Apr 2015 16:17:14
Detroit is not trading Mantha right now. Detroit says No. The only way Detroit would consider Mantha is for McDavid. That possibility isn't even likely.
Detroit won't get McDavid, Toronto won't get Mantha in a Phaneuf Trade.
I agree with Draisaitl, None are realistic
20 Apr 2015 17:10:26
toronto will never trade nylander at this point. He was a star in for Modo, the swedish junior team, and now he marlies. He has put up poins every where he has gone. the guy is solid prospect. Obviously you haven't watched him play much.
and why would toronto ever retain 40% of kessels contract that just dumb.
20 Apr 2015 18:14:58
You lost me at "The only way Detroit would consider Mantha is for McDavid"
21 Apr 2015 00:10:18
If Detroit wants Phaneuf it's not a bad trade. At least they get Nylander back who knows if Toronto would even do it.
19 Apr 2015 18:01:41
Edmonton Future Lines:
Edmonton must trade one of their top 6 for a goalie.
2nd Round Pick
Leon Draisaitl/Nail Yakupov
19 Apr 2015 18:56:49
I CAN believe what a scrap organisation the oilers are image if montreal would have all those top 5 prospect we could be headed for are 30 Stanley cup! Ahaha
But so clad that Toronto did not draft him it would have been worst
19 Apr 2015 19:01:31
Montrealfinest it wouldn't have been worse if the leafs got him, quit the leaf hate bro
19 Apr 2015 21:28:07
Dallas fan its all part of the rivalry between Toronto and montreal!
20 Apr 2015 21:47:12
I'm not a Dallas fan, i'm a Leaf fan lol.
13 Apr 2015 11:22:07
Habs: DD, Fucale, a 1st and a 2nd
Rangers: Brassard and a 3rd
Habs would be giving up a lot but they need a top centreman would can assist to compliment Pacioretty. I'm a major Habs fan but Galchenyuk is better off on the 2nd line LW for now to play and learn with and from Plekanec.
15 Apr 2015 03:03:25
Like the idea of either brassard or Stepan going to Montreal. Just not sure if Montreal is trading the right prices to New York
09 Apr 2015 19:09:51
Since there is a lot of rumors going to start about Malkin being traded if Pens don't make playoffs.
I looked up the fact that Malkin's favorite NHL team growing up was the Detroit Red Wings. Partly due to his idolization of Sergei Fedorov.
So I am going to propose a Detroit-Pittsburgh trade. I am willing to listen to any comments on how to make it better. If I am off-target please just let me know. I don't really know Malkin's value considering his window is not as wide as a few years ago. If I undervalue him, it is not intentional. I believe both sides should get a fair value.
Ericsson, Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st, 2016 1st
Pittsburgh Trades: Malkin
Detroit may have to add and I know a lot of people will say add Larkin or Mantha. Larkin is a maybe but Pittsburgh is tight against the cap and Detroit is taking a large contract of their hands. Larkin plus the two 1sts seems like too much.
This probably is not enough but please offer your suggestions on what you think it should look like.I was trying to mimic the big trade the Rick Nash trade to the Rangers. I probably didn't match that well either.
Semin(Retain 2mill)7 mil-2 mill= 5 mill
Sign Mike Green
Please let me know your thoughts, I don't intend to undervalue any player and not 100% on Cap space. Please let me know what you think. Any help is appreciated.
09 Apr 2015 19:49:38
Definitely Mantha and/or Larkin would be involved in any sort of Malkin acquisition.
09 Apr 2015 21:06:29
some dipstick saying that malkin may be traded if the pens don't make the playoffs is not an actual rumour. malkin isn't going anywhere.
09 Apr 2015 22:06:46
I know Malkin may not be going anywhere, this was just a proposal if the rumor came true.
I think it would be Larkin before Mantha considering we have centers but a top big-body scoring winger like Mantha seems less likely in comparison.
Not sure though, however Malkin is really good but Crosby is better and would guarantee a Larkin or Mantha. Malkin isn't worth as much so not sure if they are needed. It was a question I was considering, wanted to hear opinion.
09 Apr 2015 22:19:49
Malkin has a Modified NTC and can decide to go to any team he wants and Detroit could be a viable choice for Malkin which is why I proposed a trade.
It may not be enough for Penguins but Malkin could force the GM to trade him to Detroit and Detroit only if he wanted.
The getting of Semin in the 2nd deal is to give him new hope playin with a fellow Russian which might spark a comeback like when he played with Ovechkin in Washington.
10 Apr 2015 00:35:36
defnitley not enough for a great player like malkin
10 Apr 2015 16:29:52
I am going to put together two trades by Datsyuk_Fan13 and let the readers decide about the fairness of both of them. This one seemed to receive mostly positive responses:
Rights to Dougie Hamilton to Detroit for Smith,Jurco, 1st 2015 or 16
This one not so much:
Detroit Trades Ericsson, Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st, 2016 1st to Pittsburgh for Malkin
So Hamilton is worth Smith, Jurco, 2015 1st
Adam McQuaid is reasonably equal to Ericsson
Therefore putting all of the pieces together, Boston trades Hamilton, McQuaid and 2016 1st to PIT for Malkin.
So who thinks this is a fair trade?
IMO Chiarelli would kill to make that trade. What do all of the readers think?
10 Apr 2015 17:37:58
That value may be fair, not sure though. So better take someone else's opinion on if this is fair.
However, why would Boston trade for Malkin when they already have Bergeron and Kreijci down the middle.
Boston would probably prefer wingers or defensive depth.
11 Apr 2015 02:18:11
Also, Adam McQuaid is not a reasonable comparison to Jonathan Ericsson.
McQuaid = bottom pairing Dman
Ericsson = top pairing Dman
11 Apr 2015 18:21:45
LOL what? jonathan ericcson a top pair defenseman? wow, he's like # 5 guy, calm down with that ericsson love.
29 Mar 2015 00:20:54
If oilers don't get 1st or 2nd pick, they need to use it to upgrade their weak areas. I know there are great prospects, but enough losing. There are a few teams in cap trouble. I'd use the #3 or #4 overall.
Oilers: 3rd overall
NYR: talbot + girardi or stall (I prefer stall)
29 Mar 2015 12:24:02
If that happened the oilers still need a solid dman and a descent center to stop the losing IMO
I think Edmonton would regret this deal for years to come.
29 Mar 2015 19:05:32
yup, EDM definately isn't in the position to be trading or guys that are almost 30. firstly, I can almost guarantee that with EDM's weak defense and totla lack of structure, that Talbot will struggle and if you want a defenseman, just take one in the draft that will likely be betterand play longer for EDM than stall or girardi will. those 2 also likely have ntc's (im not sure on tht, but big contracts almost always come with them nowadays) so assuming they do, what makes you think they'll want to come to EDM?
21 Mar 2015 18:02:05
MacT should be shopping his draft picks.
NYR: 2016 3rd, 2015 7th
EDM: John Moore
To Florida: Martin Marincin, 2016 5th
To Edmonton: Brandon Pirri
To Detroit: Nikita Nikitin, Tyler Pitlick
To Edmonton: Stephen Weiss
Oilers get #2 overall, draft Eichel.
Oilers get around 22-24 overall.
Top 4 choices.
Paul Bittner (6.4 190lbs) (LW)
Yevgeni Svechnikov (6.1 180bs) (LW) (Can play with Yak)
Jake Debrusk (5.11 175lbs) (LW) (His dad is a broadcaster for the Oilers, and has played for the Oilers)
In the 2nd round:
Mackenzie Blackwood (G) if available.
Matt O'Connor 2 year 3 million dollars.
Francois Beauchemin 3 year 4.5 million
Before season starts:
Andrew Ference to ARZ for future considerations
Brandon Davidson will be the Oilers' 7th defenceman.
21 Mar 2015 18:42:32
John Moore is on Arizona now(yandle trade)
I think that Detroit trade is terrible for oilers.
21 Mar 2015 21:03:34
Not enough for Florida to make that deal either maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick instead of the 5th IMO +pirri is tied for 2nd with 17 goals in less than 40 games and they need more offence in Florida.
22 Mar 2015 18:36:55
Depending on Nikitin's contract, Detroit might take it.
Then again they get rid of Weiss's contract.
I think Edm wouldn't do that deal anyway.
15 Mar 2015 14:08:24
NYR: Lindberg and a 4:th 2015
15 Mar 2015 17:59:07
Weise is having a pretty good year, Rangers add!
14 Mar 2015 22:34:42
I think that Joe Thornton would be a great fit with the Capitals and the Rangers.
57 points in 64 games (44 assists)
Cap hit is $6.75 million for 2 more years
He is 35 years old (36 at the start of next season)
Rangers will only be cup contenders for a couple more seasons and Joe would create a great 1-2 punch of him and Stephan, and he would be a great center for Nash (both 6 foot 4 per HockeyDB)
Washington is wasting Ovie's best years and just imagine a PP of Ovie, Backstrom, Green, Thornton, and Carlson/ Johansson/ Kuznetsov.
What would it take to get him? (probably some $ kept on San Jose's part)
17 Mar 2015 00:37:22
Idk about Washington, but NYR would have to have SJ retain salary. Plus, we cannot afford to give up any more 1st round picks, we haven't had a 1st since 2012 and won't have one until 2017. We also aren't in the position to give up a roster player as we are going for the cup, so not sure what we would have to offer. If Yandle with 50% retained cost us a 1st+ a roster player+ an A+ prospect, I don't know if we have what it takes to acquire Thornton
14 Mar 2015 09:18:27
1. Trade Nikitin and try to trade Purcell. ( Horcoff was traded with a 7m contract, so this could be possible)
2. Hopefully oilers get 1st overall. If not, I hope it is 2nd overall. If not 1st or 2nd, use it as a trade for a #1 or 2 dman. For example, OEL for 3rd overall + 1st Rd (Pitts) + marnicin + pitlick or 2nd Rd pick (Montreal). If the last piece is not enough, swap it with 2016 1st Rd pk. Oilers need a dman. No more waiting for prospects to develop.
3. Use 2nd Rd pk (#32 or 33) for talbot (NYR goalie)
4. Send nurse and draistal to AHL.
If oilers get eichel, send him back to university. Allow them to develop.
5. Try to sign soderberg. If not, sign Roy. Good chemistry with Yak.
6. Try to sign a top 9 forward: glencross, Williams, ward, stradford, etc.
7. Sign a dman: green, franson, sekera, etc. I wish they could sign 2, but no chance.
8. Fire Lowe.
9. I wish edmontonians buy the oilers. Katz ruined the team. F*** moron.
10. Last chance for Mac T to do something right.
14 Mar 2015 16:10:05
1 both UFAs after next year, won't get much more than a bad contract in return IMO
2 top 3 picks are gold, "no more waiting for prospects" contradicts # 4
3 talbot is not the answer to edmontons goaltending woes IMO same mistake as the scrivens trade IMO
4 that's probably a good idea, maybe they're ready next year we'll see
5 he would fit nicely but does anybody really wanna sign in Edmonton if they have options.
6 Justin Williams I think could be a solid fit.
7 franson and sekera will be overpaid this year, might as we'll be the oilers I guess
9 yup/ not the only person at fault
10 fire him too
14 Mar 2015 18:06:14
what I meant about not waiting for prospects is that do not draft hafinin in or strome. Use that pick for something now. Draistal and nurse hopefully should be ready for 2016-2017.
Also, I know that nikitin and Purcell are UFAs next season, but with those contracts it is hard to sign more than 1 free agent. Not much cap space left. Trade nikitin for 5th Rd or even 6th and retain 10%. Purcell I'm ok with him for another year. Leave him on the 3rd line with lander and hopefully a free agent.
Can you imagine this as the defence?
Klefbom - shultz
Ference - fayne
How dumb is MacT to call that a top pairing. What a goof shultz.
As for talbot, he is 27. Not young. I understand he has not even a season under his belt, but Jones from LA is even a worse bet. Also, neimi is not a fit with the oilers. They need a goalie. Who? Maybe mike smith? They could get him now for cheap because of the way he is playing.
15 Mar 2015 02:21:54
Were talking about oilers gm here you got to be patient with the guy is a bit of a slow poke when it come to building a good team!
15 Mar 2015 06:35:20
You are being too kind ;)
15 Mar 2015 17:55:04
yea that's wayy to genrous.
a more realistic description of MacT would be an incompetant fool whom is hired by a billionaire superfan that doesn care about winning and just wants to hang around the 80's Oiler dynasty players lol
07 Mar 2015 16:08:45
New York Rangers
ANY TEAM: 4:th 2015
NYR: Zuccarello, McIlrath, Hagelin (RFA)
BOS: Eriksson, Soderberg (UFA) & 1:st 2015
STL: Gunnarsson & 2:nd 2015
Stepan 33m/6y - 5, 5
St-Louis 3m/1y - 3
Fast 1, 8m/2y - 0.9
Miller 9m/3y - 3
Sheppard 1m/1y - 1
Soderberg 7m/2y - 3, 5
Nash - Brassard - St.Louis
Kreider - Stepan - Eriksson
Soderberg - Miller - Hayes
Sheppard - Moore - Fast
Girardi - McDonagh
Klein - Yandle
Boyle - Gunnarsson
Lundqvist - Talbot
Total cap: 71, 475
Cap space: 1, 525
07 Mar 2015 16:44:40
see there's a reason gms are professional and your at home writing on a computer
07 Mar 2015 17:11:36
Probably but Sather sucks att writing contracts.
Just look att Redden, Richards, Gomez and the list goes on.
5.7 is to much for Staal in my opinion and zucc for 4.5 seems like an overpayment. Giving Lundqvist 8.5 was a misstake aswell not because he isn't worth it. But because it will make it difficult to make a Stanley Cup winning team.
07 Mar 2015 17:33:33
Theres no way Glass gets you a fourth round pick. he's been terrible the last couple of years he may get you a 7th or else the only way I see him getting traded is if he is a cap dump in another trade.
St. Louis will most likely ask for more money.
Soderberg is a UFA and he will be offered a lot more money with more term than that. He would probably sign somewhere else if that's all he is offered
07 Mar 2015 17:36:11
By the way, took a look att your suggestions.
Forsberg and Jones - Kessel and Bozak
Throw away the future just what Nashville wants to do.
Reimer, Phaneuf and TOR 1:st - 1:st overall (McDavid)
That would get you the 1:st overall in almost any draft but this. It's like asking PIT give upp Crosby for a lot less.
So I guess there is a reason why you aren't a pro aswell.
07 Mar 2015 18:37:34
Ok, just want him out, can sens him away for a 7:th for sure!
STL could send a lower pick or some sort of smaller cap dump. If that would do it.
Soderberg is a big gamble but if he wants to win the cup and feels that the Rangers have the best opportunity it's not impossible to sign him at 3.5 a year.
07 Mar 2015 21:02:09
Oh just saw you ment MSL and not the Blues, I think he would play for 3 mill next season (wich might be his last) if I improves his chanses on bringing the cup to New York. There is a reason why NYR was the only team.
02 Mar 2015 01:25:57
to Jets RW Lee Stempniak to Rangers LW Carl Klingberg
to Rangers F James Sheppard to Sharks 2016 fourth-round pick
to Red Wings F Erik Cole & 2015 third-round pick to Stars D Mattias Backman, F Mattias Janmark, & 2015 second-round pick
02 Mar 2015 00:48:45
James Sheppard(salary retained)
01 Mar 2015 23:42:34
01 Mar 2015 21:41:52
NYR - Yandle
ARI - Duclair, 1st rd pick, J. Moore
What do you guys think about it?
To Rangers D Keith Yandle, D Chris Summers, 2015 fourth-round pick
to Coyotes D John Moore, F Anthony Duclair, 2015 second-round pick, 2016 first-round pick
I think it's good if we win the cup with Yandle on the team. Bad if we don't atleast make another deep run and if/when Duclair becomes a star
Cant believe New York did this. They don't have a first this year or next now and lose a 2nd also in this draft along with two storng prospects. Their future is going to hurt because of this. Also i'm not sure why they wanted Yandle don't get me wrong he is an amazing talent but they just signed Staal and Girardi long term and already have Klein, McDonagh and Boyle to take up time. Hopefully it works for them but to me its an odd move. It will be interesting to see how they deploy their defense.
I don't even get it, rangers need better forwards not defenseman I mean srsly like the d- pairings are filthy even though I hate nyr
The Coyotes also retained 50% of his salary. Crazy.
Expected yandle to get more in return. the trade seemed average , but I'm not familiar with duclair so could be wrong
And also coyotes sent summers and a 4th
02 Mar 2015 00:37:11
I don't really understand why they traded for two more dmen. They already have McDonagh, Staal, Girardi, Boyle and to a lesser extent Klein on the blueline. I thought they'd be in the market for a top 6-9 forward rather than another top pairing defenseman.
It actually was:
NYR get: Yandle, Chris Summers, 4tj 2015
Ari get: Duclair, John Moore, 2nd 2015 and Conditional 1st 2015.
NYR also got: Chris Summers, 2015 4th round pick
ARZ: 2015 2nd round pick (1st rounder is 2016)
There's more to it, the Yotes did really good here I am not sure if they could have got more for him, yotes fan should celebrate, Domi with Duclair will be extremely special, and imagine if Yotes draft either Eichel, Mcdavid, or Strome it's going to be unreal.
Yandle is good but I'm not sure if I would of gave that much up. Duclair is going to be good and you never know if he is gunna resign.
But PHX did retain half his salary so that's alright.
I think Arizona did well. They hsve Duclair and domi. All they need now is a certain Reinhart and they'll have a set line for next season. looks like the rangers are all in. Giving up some good assets.
NYR are going for it. East is wide open, Good move. i'd rather the pick be 2015 not 2016 but whatever.
01 Mar 2015 19:00:47
Jan Hejda($1.5M retained)
Conditional 2015 4th*
*If Rangers make it to ECFs it becomes a 2015 3rd
Now that the Yandle trade is done, this deal can be thrown out the window
28 Feb 2015 21:16:49
Trade Legwand, Wiercioch and a first in 2016 and to NYR for Zuccarello and a low draft pick
01 Mar 2015 15:25:36
Not a 1rst round pick were still in 1/2 rebuild mode. And he's a rental, maybe just a cond. 3rd that becomes a 2nd.
01 Mar 2015 18:34:51
I'd rather just wait until free agency and try and sign him rather then giving up assets and potentially not being able to resign him.
28 Feb 2015 20:54:23
Tor: Zuccarello and a 2016 4th round pick
Tor: 2015 1st round dp
Chicago traded their 1st rdp to arizona
Zuc+ for Bozak? Are you high?
What a joke.
I think it actually works, Sather was competing with the Leafs for Bozo when he was in college. Face offs and defensive play are HUGE in the playoffs, and I think Bozo is identical to Vermette, but you won't get Vermette or Zuccy for under 5.5 in a few months. I think Bozo has a 4.2 cap hit' 100% business trade.
Zuc is about to re-sign in NY for $4.5mil/season. So much for not getting him for under $5.5mil.
Chicago can just write "1st round pick" on a piece of paper and the Toronto management will believe it.
28 Feb 2015 17:52:35
WSH: Carrick and 2nd
Only because others have gotten big returns
BOS: Bartkowski and 2nd
CGY: Glencross, Reinhart and 5th
CGY: Glencross, Beartschi, 4th
CGY: Glencross and 4th
28 Feb 2015 17:35:05
mats zuccarello and 2nd round pick for brandon sutter
give penguins top six winger for malkin and give rangers 3rd line center, 2nd round pick because zuccarello is ufa after this season
I see this happening for a 3rd if they can talk to him and get a deal in place so he resigns a reasonable contract extension right after so they have him locked up because sutter is a cheaper almost as good player with about the same potential ceiling. which is about second line consistent player that puts up 65 [points a year.
28 Feb 2015 22:10:12
I love this as a pens fan. There is a chance that these two teams play in the first round, would be exciting to see