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24 May 2016 19:26:55
Ottawa's Offseason:

Sign Lee Stempniak (2 yrs, 5m. )

I forget who posted it (Sorry), but there was a Trade that looked like this

OTT: Nick Paul, Patrick Wiercioch, '17 3rd
DAL: Brendan Dillon

i think that trade is great for the sens. stabilises the bottom pair.

Sens Line-up 2016-17:
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Stone
MacArthur - Turris - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Stempniak
Dzingel - Lazar - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Dillon - Wideman

Anderson
Hammond.

24 May 2016 21:25:34
Brendan Dillon plays for San Jose now, plus that seems like a lot to give up for someone you want to play in the bottom pairing defenceman.

24 May 2016 22:09:22
Right, SJ. my bad.

24 May 2016 22:10:28
Well. Wiercioch is a RFA and the sens are going to let him go. might as well get something for him.

23 May 2016 21:38:10
OTT:
- Bobby Ryan (7.25m)
- 12th ovr '16
- Nick Paul (ELC)
- Mark Borowiecki (1.1m)

TBL:
- Nikita Kucherov (ELC)
- Jason Garrison (4.6m)

Not sure if Tampa has the Cap but . just for fun.

23 May 2016 23:27:43
Honestly not bad tbh.

23 May 2016 23:56:30
Why would tampa do this when kutch is already better, younger, and cheaper than Ryan.

24 May 2016 00:13:23
No from Tampa. Ryan is overpaid and overrated. 12th and Paul is nice but I wouldn't move Kucherov if I'm the Lightning.

24 May 2016 00:24:48
Huge no from Tampa even if the value is close.

24 May 2016 01:56:39
Yeah it's pretty bad.

24 May 2016 05:20:01
Even if tampa had the cap easy no. Kuch is the only real game changer there and Garrison is a servicable top 4 D. Paul is likely a bottom 6 guy this draft falls after 10.just don't see the value to trade a young proven star like Kuch. He's dominated since going pro.

24 May 2016 07:52:43
Kucherov is pretty much the last TB player to be traded except for Hedman maybe.

21 May 2016 21:14:53
Ana: Anderson, Lazar

Ott: Andersen, Cogliano

Ana: gets a veteran goalie for gibson and a young bottom six forward

Ott: gets a younger starting goalie and in there price range and a speedy player who can help the pk and play wing or centre, left shot helps since top 3 centres shoot right.

21 May 2016 22:29:24
Love it but Anaheim would never do it.

22 May 2016 05:52:51
Steal from Ottawa, Anderson is better and Lazar has more value but that's not all that matters.

21 May 2016 20:41:37
Nashville trades Wilson, Jarnkrok, 2nd to Ottawa for Hoffman, Chiasson.

21 May 2016 22:30:40
no Wilson's useless.

22 May 2016 01:05:45
brutal.

21 May 2016 00:56:45
Oilers: Nuge + Yak
Hurricanes: Faulk

Oilers: Eberle
Ottawa: Ceci + 3rd

Oilers pick up Boadker and Brouwer from free agency. Also could attempt to pick up Yandle and Demers (if the trades cannot happen) also could kick the tires and try and land Backes or Okposo.

21 May 2016 12:52:14
We have already 50 times decided that Faulk is worth far more than that package. I mean Faulk I would say is on the best contract in the league, and is already a #1 defenseman at 23 years old. Any proposal for Faulk has to start with Draistatl + #4, or else Carolina wouldn't even consider.

21 May 2016 17:05:05
Drasaitl + the 4th pick?!?! Are you crazy?

20 May 2016 06:41:48
Ottawa signs - Matt Puempel, Mike Hoffman, Cody Ceci, Buddy Robinson, Matt Dumba

Line-ups:

Clarke MacArthur-Kyle Turris-Bobby Ryan
Mike Hoffman-Mika Zibanejad-Mark Stone
Zack Smith-JG Pageau-Buddy Robinson
Matt Puempel-Curtis Lazar-Chris Neil

Marc Methot-Erik Karlsson
Dion Phaneuf-Cody Ceci
Mark Borowiecki-Matt Dumba

Craig Anderson (starter)
Andrew Hammond (backup)

gameday scratches: Chris Wideman

I really think these line-ups are good because Ottawa has a lot of good young good players in their prospect system so this would make a really big and good chance for these young guys to develop. Matt Dumba's a good attempt because, let's be real. Phillips is going to retire because of an injury and then Ottawa has a bunch of leftover money that they don't have to spend on him anymore. Same goes for Wiercioch. So if you got leftover money then you can get some good young free agents out there who're ready. Matt Dumba, in my opinion, is a good fit for the team.

20 May 2016 06:50:35
Do you know the difference between UFA and RFA? Lol you can't just sign Dumba (you can offer sheet tho) Wild own his RFA rights and it'll cost you a lot for them. Don't expect Dumba in Ottawa anytime soon.

20 May 2016 08:09:48
Why have Robinson in the line up and not paul? Move lazar to third line right wing and put paul fourth line center that would make more sense. Also dumba makes no sense at all Ottawa's not going to pay Minnesota all the draft picks to claim him and the money he wants just for him to be a third liner. Plus it hinders chabot progress.

20 May 2016 08:33:18
Lol "trade rumour" forum but talks about signing an RFA. Bruh.

20 May 2016 11:08:10
lol. "trade rumour" forum, but not ONE of them is a "rumour".

18 May 2016 15:13:59
Ott wants to make playoffs now they need a big goal scoring forward not a lot of money in the organization. Wonder if Tor and Ott can come together again

Ott Matt O'Connor harpur and 12th overall
Tor jvr and pitts 1st

Ottawa gets a big player score 30 on a good contract get a late 1st to grab a prospect.

Tor gets a goalie for the system better then they have and they need. Harpur is a 6 6 dman that can develop into a 4 to 6 dman hits hard good skater and move up in the draft grab best player at 12 spot.

18 May 2016 22:28:00
get lost ott we already gave you enough and took on three garbage players.

18 May 2016 23:11:33
I like it … I'm assuming value is close. I don't know how O'Connor is doing and how OTT values him cause there tenders are old ish.

19 May 2016 01:02:28
OConnor was terrible this year in the AHL and JVR is to much to move up to mid 1st round pick (depending on what players are still available there) IMO.

19 May 2016 06:07:30
He wasn't that bad the senators where bad and that made his numbers bad. And you take a flyer on a young goalie that is big they take time develop look at bishop he didn't come around for a long time now he is top 5 goalie in nhl.

16 May 2016 15:52:00
Ottawa trades Bobby Ryan, Wiercoch, Methot, Puempel to Rangers for Girardi, Nash.

16 May 2016 17:27:42
Ottawa does NOT trade Bobby Ryan, Wiercoch, Methot, Puempel to Rangers for Girardi, Nash.

New York would be retaining a lot of salary, and Methot for Girardi is a pointless trade. Methot is a local guy and the organization is big on him doubt he gets moved.

Ottawa's Top 4 is already really expensive in relation to our internal budget, no need to make it more expensive with Girardi and slow the development of Ceci, Chabot and some of our other prospects.

16 May 2016 18:54:36
That's terrible for Ottawa.

16 May 2016 19:37:32
I can where you're coming from with this, but no.

16 May 2016 20:51:41
Better take Dorion to dinner before you bend him over.

16 May 2016 14:35:28
WPG: Comrie

TOR: Pittsburgh 1st Round Pick (2016)

Bidding war between Calgary, Toronto, Edmonton and Dallas. Ends up with them overpaying for a young up and coming goalie.


WPG: Pittsburgh 1st Round Pick (2016), Chicago 1st Round Pick (2016)

Ottawa: Ottawa 1st Round Pick 2016

Jets move up in the draft and get one of the top Defenseman.

16 May 2016 15:08:47
Where is this "bidding war" you speak of happening?

16 May 2016 15:36:31
Pens don't have a 1st round pick in 2016 stupid.

16 May 2016 18:25:28
You are correct they don't, but the team trading Pittsburgh's 1st does have I it! And what bidding war are you speaking of?

16 May 2016 19:41:15
@Samtheman88 Pens are not included in this trade buddy.

17 May 2016 02:03:27
Its Toronto who has Pittsburghs 1st. Learn to READ TO UNDERSTAND not read to reply! LOL.

16 May 2016 03:34:07
Here are off season moves the Sens should make!

Re-sign Hoffman.

Re-sign Ceci

Ott Trade Bobby Ryan

NJ Trade 1st round pick (11th)

Gives Sens 11th and 12th picks. This would give them 2 high picks in a really good draft.

Sens pick 2 of the following players: Jost, McCleod, Chychrun, Juolevi, Sergachyov, Gauthier or Keller.

Sens sign Loui Erickson 5 yrs 6.5 M

Sens Line up

McArthur Turris Erickson
Smith Pageau Stone
Hoffman Lazar Zibanejad
Dzingel Paul Neil

Methot Karlson
Phaneuf Ceci
Borowiecki Wideman

Anderson / Hammond

What do you think?

16 May 2016 05:42:08
Bobby Ryan won't fetch you an 11th.
Looking like a good kid 'till he got in the Hands of the Senators.

Actually don't see Sens resigning Hoffman, heard the guy wants a really big contract.

6.5M is such an overpayment for Eriksson! Especially for 5 years. Guy is going to be a cap dumb! Would love it if i was Eriksson though.

I think what Sens really need is a starting goalie.
Anderson isn't one and Hammond isn't one.

Sadly, Anderson got too old. I don't think he is going to take you guys to the kind of deep in the playoffs like 3 years ago with Gonchar.

16 May 2016 12:10:13
I actually think Ryan is worth more than the pick. Although he lost scoring touch since coming from Anaheim, his playmaking abilities and him actually playing defense now actually makes up for it. Boosted stats by Getzlaf and Perry aren't there anymore but he did good last season.

Ottawa's goalie situation is alarming but not catastrophic, Anderson has been good even for his age, he's been playing like a starter and that's all they can ask for, yes he's old but he's not playing like it. Best case scenario, he has to perform until they get an other guy who can start in net for a good 60games.



I don't believe sens would do a one-one player trade in Ryan vs Gauthier or Ryan vs Keller or Ryan vs Sergachyov or Ryan vs McCleod, list goes on.

I agree that would be a huge overpayement for Eriksson oh my.

Hoffman is going to resign the big contract, something along the line of 6years 6m per year OR rfa 1year deal. On don't want him to get 6m but I do believe he will and I think Boucher will make him worth that. Hoffman can do things at a level that very least can do in the league. Being a cap team, Ottawa tends not to go get those types of players, so just pleasekeep the ones you already have.

16 May 2016 12:10:13
I actually think Ryan is worth more than the pick. Although he lost scoring touch since coming from Anaheim, his playmaking abilities and him actually playing defense now actually makes up for it. Boosted stats by Getzlaf and Perry aren't there anymore but he did good last season.

Ottawa's goalie situation is alarming but not catastrophic, Anderson has been good even for his age, he's been playing like a starter and that's all they can ask for, yes he's old but he's not playing like it. Best case scenario, he has to perform until they get an other guy who can start in net for a good 60games.



I don't believe sens would do a one-one player trade in Ryan vs Gauthier or Ryan vs Keller or Ryan vs Sergachyov or Ryan vs McCleod, list goes on.

I agree that would be a huge overpayement for Eriksson oh my.

Hoffman is going to resign the big contract, something along the line of 6years 6m per year OR rfa 1year deal. On don't want him to get 6m but I do believe he will and I think Boucher will make him worth that. Hoffman can do things at a level that very least can do in the league. Being a cap team, Ottawa tends not to go get those types of players, so just pleasekeep the ones you already have.

16 May 2016 13:00:48
No part of Ryan wanted on the Devils at the price of that pick.

16 May 2016 13:45:33
Ryan is not worth anything close to the 11th overall. @EdmontonOilers, are you old enough to have seen Eriksson play his career? No he is not worth 6.5 but he is also far from a cap dump.

16 May 2016 23:26:05
IF he signed a 6.5m deal he would be a cap dumb. Hello?

14 May 2016 20:01:31
Ottawa trades: Mika Zibanejad, Ben Harpur, Matt Puempel

Winnipeg Trades: Mark Scheifele.

14 May 2016 20:18:51
Worst.

14 May 2016 21:51:33
Scheifele>>> Zibanejad. Scraps don't equal the difference.

14 May 2016 22:25:27
Isn't Mika Zibanejad already enough to complete this deal. Adding to good prospects to an even trade makes your team "unprepared" for future trades.

15 May 2016 01:44:14
Scheifele is not much better than Zibanejad, he had a breakout year yes but their values are comparable. Ben Harpur might be considered scrap in a deal of this magnitude, however he's still a young 7th defenceman and Puempel actually has decent value. I don't think this is a trade either team would do, but this is not by any means a bad trade.

15 May 2016 05:55:15
Jets aren't moving Schiefele guys, he and Laine will be a deadly duo going forward. He also showed great chemistry with Ehlers and Wheelers and I see that as Winnipegs starting 1st line.

15 May 2016 06:10:25
Zibanejad and schiefele are very similar players. Although i don't see either of them being traded because they both have potential to be a #1 centre for there respected teams. They both have a big body with great hands. Zibanejad has a Big shot. Zibanejad is can skate really well. in my opinion there very similar. Zibanejad has schiefele beat in the shot and speed category however schiefele hands may be a little better. If ottawa wanted him they would have taken him with the 6th pick and then zibanejad probably would have went to the jets.

15 May 2016 08:15:43
Not trying to bash the Sens but Scheifele>Zibby
Zib will be a good 2C or very good 3C on a strong team. I see Schiefele as a number 1C worst case 2C.

13 May 2016 20:20:55
OTT gives - Nick Paul, Patrick Wiercioch, 5th round pick

SJ gives - Brenden Dillon

-Dillon is a reliable and constant player with a good and stable contract.
-Nick Paul is a very good prospect and is 6'4 without lacking in strength either.
-Wiercioch is a lesser version of Dillon with similar stats but is less reliable, good third pairing Defenceman.

The Sharks are built up the middle and with or without Dillon, have a solid back 6. This improves they're team without taking away their strenghts. Marleau is going to retire sooner than later and having yet another young winger (that is already NHL ready) does nothing but help.

The Senators are looking for roster spots up front so getting rid of 1 forward wouldn't hurt as much as for some teams. Getting better on the defensive end is the main priority and they would do so with this trade. Good defense doesn't come cheap, but they're not hurting their core either.

Although Ottawa might be giving a little much, depending on how you value Paul and Wierchioch's potentials, I added the 5th because of contract situations being in Ottawa's favor after the trade.

13 May 2016 20:35:39
Probably a 3rd instead of a 5th. But pretty solid trade.

13 May 2016 21:01:53
Yeah, I agree San Jose is getting older and with the addition of two nhl-ready young players would be good for them, and yeah Dillon is good but I think its a good trade imo.

13 May 2016 23:58:19
Karlsson, Doughty, Kieth, Hedman, Burns, OEL, are better than Petro. Even some people think Eklbad is already, will be soon. Petro is good, but don't need to over exaggerate and say he is a top 5. Top 5-15, yes.

10 May 2016 19:54:10
Oilers: RNH
Wild: Dumba or Brodin + 2nd round

Oilers: Eberle
Ducks: Vatanen
OR
Oilers: Eberle
Senators: Ceci.

10 May 2016 22:30:01
Would Kuemper be a good back up? I liked the Dumba, Kuemper for RNH one I seen. Still seems like MIN should be adding though….

11 May 2016 01:09:03
I mean if Oilers can get a goalie and a rhd for nuge, I would take that. Especially being a good young defenseman and then a goalie to backup Talbot why Brossiot develops more in AHL.

08 May 2016 17:09:13
Arizona need to reach the salary floor and Ottawa doesn't want to pay Hoffman the money he's asking for so I think a trade between them makes sense.

To Ottawa Anthony Duclair

To Arizona Mike Hoffman Alex Chiasson and Patrick Wiercioch

Both Chiasson and Wiercioch have underperformed in Ottawa maybe they can turn it around in Arizona Hoffman's a stud just getting into his prime and Duclair is a young skilled player witch Ottawa can control his contract for year to come. Helps both teams but I could be delusional. What do you guys think?

08 May 2016 19:03:32
You're delusional.

08 May 2016 19:12:04
Lol thought so.

08 May 2016 20:43:31
Not that bad.

08 May 2016 21:48:38
No offence buddy aha.

08 May 2016 23:07:53
Only because age difference I'd say no from Arizona.

08 May 2016 23:20:18
Duclair > Hoffman and is like 5 years younger.

09 May 2016 03:26:32
Hoffman had 15 more points^.

08 May 2016 03:32:52
I've heard from several sources that OTT doesn't want to pay a big contract to Hoffman and may trade him.

TO OTT: #6 overall pick, Joe Colborne

TO CGY: #12 overall pick, Mike Hoffman

Hoffman and Colborne are same age, and they are both RFA. Hoffman scored more but Colborne still scored 40 + points. Colborne is much bigger and versatile; can play all 3 fwd positions. CGY gets the better scorer but more expensive contract. OTT gets the higher (better) pick and more affordable contract.

Thoughts? Any adds from either side?

08 May 2016 04:53:34
Why would CGY do this? Hoffman alone isn't worth moving down 6 spots. And you want colborne?

OTT adds.

08 May 2016 06:23:01
Definitely helps Calgary with their top 6 but their going to want a little more from Ottawa maybe add chiasson and puempel and I think that's pretty fair but saying that I doubt Ottawa moves down dorion said he'll look into it but thinks he'll still be drafting with the 12th pick.

08 May 2016 07:58:37
I could see it from Calgary's perspective. Gets them another addition to their young top-6 who puts up legit numbers, and then they could draft a dman like Bean with the pick.

Ottawa may like it as well for the opportunity to move up in the draft, but I'm not sure Colborne is the player they'd want in return. Don't really know who they'd want off the top of my head tho so whatever. Not the worst proposal I've seen on this site.

07 May 2016 04:57:30
Edm/ ott trade

YAKUPOV
Rnh
Davidson
Gazic
2016 1st rd pick 4th overall

For
Karlsson
2016 1st rd pick 12th overall
Oilers retain 20% of Rnh contract

Edm/ Nyi trade

Eberle
Osterle
2017 2nd round pick

For
Hamonic

Edm/ buf

Lander
Korposki
Pakarien
For
Kane
3rd round pick 2017.

07 May 2016 07:53:04
The 3:rd one is a joke, sure Kane has been nothing but trouble and I don't think he's something the Oilers want, but that proposal is almost insulting.

07 May 2016 12:52:37
The 1st and 3rd trade are atrociously in Edmontons favor and that is way to much for Hamonic.

07 May 2016 13:43:42
Was the Kane trade thrown in for a joke? They are all kinda a joke but that's brutal not enough for Karlsson.

07 May 2016 23:41:13
Haha someone got drunk on a Friday Night.

06 May 2016 19:04:18
Ottawa trades: Mike Hoffman and Cody Ceci

Nashville Trades: Mathias Ekholm and Colin Wilson/ Craig Smith.

06 May 2016 19:43:02
Ceci>Ekholm (based on age alone pretty similar numbers otherwise)
Hoffman>>>Smith/ Wilson

Hoffman had more goals and almost as many points as Smith and Wilson combined. At this point Wilson is more of a cap dump than anything Smith has much higher value than Wilson.

06 May 2016 20:36:26
Easy no from Ottawa.

07 May 2016 01:11:15
Smith is much better and worth more than Wilson FYI.

04 May 2016 07:37:17
OTT: Cody Ceci, 2016 12th
EDM: Taylor Hall

or

OTT: D Thomas Chabot, 2016 12th
TBL: Jonathan Droun.

04 May 2016 09:55:14
Drouins trade value definitely went up since he returned but he's not worth our best prospect and 12th overall pick. It's a pretty strong draft could possibly get a real gem rather keep it unless Edmonton wants that first trade than why not.

04 May 2016 09:55:14
Drouins trade value definitely went up since he returned but he's not worth our best prospect and 12th overall pick. It's a pretty strong draft could possibly get a real gem rather keep it unless Edmonton wants that first trade than why not.

04 May 2016 10:48:54
Ha funny.

04 May 2016 12:02:50
nice try ottawa way over valueing again.

04 May 2016 13:09:16
While I agree it's too much for Drouin this draft is not strong. It's top heavy in the first 3 picks and drops fast. I've heard it described as an ok to overall not great draft class.

04 May 2016 14:41:07
Why would edmonton ever do that trade. Thank god that guy isn't a gm.

04 May 2016 15:26:56
This draft is actually pretty good but lacks Depth. At the top you have the big three who could all be number 1s in some drafts. 4 through 12 have some really good talent in it, so trading someone like say Keller and Chabot for Drouin is ludicrous to me. There are two other big drop offs to me in this draft: right after the 22nd pick and after the 50th pick. There is not a lot of depth in this draft so be prepared for teams to try to move up.

04 May 2016 19:10:41
Chabot for Drouin is ridiculous. Drouin is proving it would be a steal for OTT. The 12th overall pick probably too much to add but Drouin has been nothing short of amazing this playoffs.

05 May 2016 10:58:05
How the heck does Drouin have the same value as Taylor Hall?

04 May 2016 04:47:28
Edmonton:
- 2016 1st (12th overall)

Ottawa:
- Jordan Eberle



I think the value is the same.
Edmonton clears space for more free agency room/ trading possibilities
Ottawa gets a scoring winger with a fantastic offensive ability given confidence.
Yakupov is happier because he takes Eberle's spot= more playing time


Oilers draft:
4th Overall: Tkachuk
12 Overall possibilities: Logan Brown, Bean, Jost or trade it.

04 May 2016 05:00:12
so we burn a few years off McDavids ELC? Why would we trade NHL players for the future. Horrible for Edmonton just delaying the rebuild.

04 May 2016 05:15:42
Could package those 2 picks and trade them for a Dman and prospect.

04 May 2016 06:43:02
Yeah um your not getting a 12th OA pick fir eberle no chsnce.

04 May 2016 06:50:47
you mean you're not getting eberle for a mid first. i think you got that a little mixed up.

04 May 2016 09:46:34
Like Oil said makes no sense from oilers. And Colt Eberle would be a top line players on twenty out of thirty teams or so. Also top 6 on any team. Why trade a proven goal scorer for an 18year old that may take 2-4 years to even make the team let alone impact.
Eberle > 12th OA No questions asked.

04 May 2016 10:03:11
Rather keep the pick it's a strong draft could draft brown jost or Keller. Eberle is good but makes a lot of money and with Ottawa being a self cap team they'd rather have a kid who they can control their contract for the foreseeable future.

04 May 2016 12:05:39
typical ottawa always say edmonton is a joke but always wants edmonton players.

04 May 2016 14:44:52
Erik Karlsson for the 4th. Seems fair if your only getting a mid 1st round pick for Eberle, right?

04 May 2016 02:38:19
Flames trade Bennett and Calgary 1st
Lightning trade Vasilvesky, Drouin, Tampa 2nd

Ducks trade Lindholm
Oilers trade Hall

Predators trade Josi and Nashville 3rd
Senators trade Ceci, O'Conner and Ottawa 1st.

04 May 2016 04:47:55
Um. what?

04 May 2016 05:52:51
No, CGY doesn't do that.

04 May 2016 06:34:22
IMO, Tampa and Preds say no.

04 May 2016 10:08:20
Ottawa hangs up the phone on that one we have no need for josi.

04 May 2016 10:57:01
Sens no they don't they take that deal and run he'd be the perfect line mate for Karlsson but press say no.

04 May 2016 13:00:17
Calgary says HELL NAW to that deal.

 
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