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27 Sep 2016 05:46:52
Ottawa trades: Nick Paul 2nd (17) 3rd (18)
Vancouver trades: Andrey Pedan, Alex Biega 4th (17)
Ottawa gets a young hulking up and coming defenseman and a depth defenseman

Vancouver gets a young hulking LW and a couple picks.

27 Sep 2016 06:41:57
No from OTT.

26 Sep 2016 18:30:45
Ottawa: 3rd and Matt Puempel

Edmonton: Nail Yakupov

If you don't agree I'd like to hear your input and counter offers. If your K99 please don't say anything.

26 Sep 2016 19:29:46
Doesn't really help the Oilers, unless they really need and want 3rd round picks.

26 Sep 2016 19:44:57
Looks decent. If someone sees something in Yak, it isn't bad. I'm not sure why anyone would give up anything for him though. You need to see him live to really appreciate what a sideshow he is. Cross ice passes 4 feet in the air, standing just inside the blue line watching the other team cycle while his def sneaks past him from the point and slow changes are always on display. But, he does have an explosive first step and hard shot. You never know.

26 Sep 2016 20:53:15
Bj96 maybee if edm had better scouts 3rd rnd picks would be worth while I know they ate a shot in the dark. But just a few drafts ago you had 3-5 3rd rounders make nhl teams ghost parayko, vessey. So it really depends on how good your scouts are. Plus if you have 2-3 picks third round it improves your chances. I would wait one more season see if yak improves then ship him out.

26 Sep 2016 22:17:05
Thanks for the insight Colt.

27 Sep 2016 03:40:30
Your not always going to pick in the high 1st 2nd round and even then edm hasn't picked well.

27 Sep 2016 04:32:36
just so you know, Vessey had made exactly zero NHL teams thus far in his career.

27 Sep 2016 05:21:12
Well we all know Borje is an Oilers hater, oh well, won't say anything to that, but Colt made a good point about the scouting. Oilers scouts were horrendous for so long until mcdavids draft year, so a 3rd round isn't that bad. But like Bj said, this doesn't help Edmonton. I'd rather tough it out with Yak then have Puempel.

27 Sep 2016 05:29:58
Puempel is garbage but atleast he has an ahl type contract lol

27 Sep 2016 05:56:16
Colt strikes again. and Borje, he really hates Edmonton.

26 Sep 2016 06:53:05
Ottawa Senators:
- Dion Phaneuf (25% Retained)
(7,000,000 x 5yrs)
- Tomas Chabot
Winnipeg Jets:
- Jacob Trouba (RFA)
(Asking 7,000,000)

Imagine Phaneuf and Buyfugelin. Some nasty dudes.

26 Sep 2016 16:58:20
jets lose that trade.

27 Sep 2016 03:41:18
Chabot will be better than Trouba in a few years.

26 Sep 2016 06:22:25
With MacArthur out with another concussion Ottawa needs to prepare for the worst and bring in an other top 6 left wing.

Ottawa trades 1st and Chabot

Toronto trades JVR and Ottawa's 2nd.

26 Sep 2016 06:34:49
I would probably take that from the leafs. Chabot is a pretty underated prospect and looks like he will really thrive with the direction that the NHL is headed in.

26 Sep 2016 12:26:02
Ottawa is not projected to do well this year, why trade a lottery pick and a top prospect?

25 Sep 2016 22:04:56
Ottawa:
D - Dion Phaneuf (25% Retained)
D - Tomas Chabot
Winnipeg:
D - Jacob Trouba

Top 4
Phaneuf - Buyfugelin
Enstrom - Meyers.

25 Sep 2016 22:35:20
Hmm. You may need to retain more money. Interesting offer though.

25 Sep 2016 23:35:25
maybe if ottawa retains 50%.

25 Sep 2016 23:49:02
Karlsson and Ceci on the right side. Same situation as Winnipeg. Could possibly work but doesn't seem likely.

26 Sep 2016 03:52:52
Sens don't really need Trouba, they need LHD more.

26 Sep 2016 04:33:38
Chabot will be better than Trouba in a few years.

24 Sep 2016 09:08:47
So as I see Edmonton needs RW, maybe a proposal I can try to be even with.

Edmonton:
- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- Nail Yakupov
- (2018) 2nd round pick
Ottawa:
- Mark Stone
- Curtis Lazar

Showing how good Nuge was in WCH, I don't think he's very overrated. Unrealistic but just for value wise of course.

24 Sep 2016 09:27:37
Tough one. But I'd say no. Rather have a good center in Nuge and I don't think oilers need a RW.
Eberle
Puljujarvi
Versteeg
Then yak, kassian, pak.

24 Sep 2016 10:00:05
Agree with McJesus. No from Edm.
Puljujarvi will be very very good in no time. Will be the best winger on Edm in a year. If they decide to trade Nuge it def won't be for other forwards. It would be in a deal that has a legit top end D man coming back.

24 Sep 2016 13:26:33
Mark Stone is so underated Stone>RNH but oilers don't need him.

24 Sep 2016 15:11:11
Edm needs a RW? Are you cross-eyed?

24 Sep 2016 07:39:35
chicago: kruger, 2nd
ottawa: lazar

close? who adds?

24 Sep 2016 07:59:14
I'd personally say no from Chicago. Kruger is so dominate as a defensive forward and penalty killer and Chicago has him on a good contract and he works very well for them. And then they add a 2nd. No.
Not taking anything away from Lazar, just I think Chicago passes on this for the reasons I said.

24 Sep 2016 09:09:12
Idk Kruger is ok but I don't think he's much more then a low end 3rd line C or a good 4th line PK 4th liner. Lazar is/ will be better defensively once he develops a bit more. Sens pass imo.

24 Sep 2016 16:37:21
I don't think Kruger is on a good contract. In fact I think he is in a pretty bad contract. I get he is a defensive forward but he hasn't scored 10 in a season once and he is getting $3.10/ yr. i'd like to think Lazar will be a defensive player like Kruger, but with more offensive upside.

23 Sep 2016 03:55:56
OTT: Craig Anderson
COL: Eric Gelinas

OTT: Nick Paul, 2017 1st Rd draft pick
TBL: Ben Bishop

Ottawa gets a big stay at home bottom pairing LH dman to play with Wideman. Andy goes back to Avs and will split the net with Varly. For the TB deal, Ottawa gets back Bishop in return TB will get a more than NHL ready prospect and a 1st round draft pick the following year. TB would also relieve some cap space and will start their younger goalie in Vas.

Line up
Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Mac - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Lazar
Puempel - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Gelinas - Wideman

Bishop
Hammond.

23 Sep 2016 06:21:21
Ottawa has enough goalies and they already lost Bishop once. And he can also get a better return than that.

Also I doubt Colorado wants Anderson. They already have their starter and back up.

23 Sep 2016 12:14:23
Pickard is COL's backup, and he should be able to take over starting role if he keeps up his progression.

24 Sep 2016 07:35:02
i thought eric gelinas was in new jersey?

21 Sep 2016 23:15:50
Ottawa:
LW - Matt Puempel $0.900
D - Mikael Wikstrand $0.813

Columbus:
G - Joonas Korpisalo $0.743

Ottawa adds more depth in goal. Korpisalo is younger and showed he can play with the big clubs for when, not if when, Anderson gets injured.

22 Sep 2016 03:39:23
a AHL trade post?

22 Sep 2016 04:28:38
Why would Senators want more goalies, Anderson, Hammond, O'Conner, Dridger. Also I'd think CBJ says no. i'm sure they'd rather just hold onto Koripaslo.

22 Sep 2016 04:53:47
Isn't Ottawa hoping to go with Hammond and O'conner.

22 Sep 2016 16:53:19
Driedger is expected to be the starter in Bingo. Matt O'Connor has dropped in the Sens depth chart. Korpisalo had a good stint in the NHL last year with one of the worst teams in the league.

21 Sep 2016 18:07:09
To Ott:Stastny{maybe retained}
To Stl: Lazar and a 2nd or 3rd




i think this would allow shattenkirk to resign in St louis


any suggestions.

21 Sep 2016 18:15:54
Lmao humongous no from Ottawa oh man.

21 Sep 2016 18:42:28
Where do I begin. Stastny is one of the most overpaid players in the game. Lazar and a 3rd get's Stastny with salary retained. Shattenkirk wants out if the West and wants to play in the East.

21 Sep 2016 19:30:39
I'd rather have Lazar than Stastny.
When people talk about over rated. he should be on the list. but. he's been so irrelevant the past few seasons we all forget about him. that's how bad he has become.

21 Sep 2016 20:08:15
wow ok.

21 Sep 2016 20:27:40
This doesn't help either team at all. Blues have plenty of middle 6 wingers already. Stastny may be mediocore at best and is defs overpaid but he's probably still the Blues best C. Senators have absolutely no use for Stastny after the Brassard trade, and even though they could probably afford it I believe the Senators are one of those teams with a cap budget, meaning there not going to spend to the cap limit.

21 Sep 2016 22:18:01
His would be great for STL (to get rid of that big contract) but no thanks from Ottawa.
Shattenkirk has said himself that as a player you only get this chance maybe once in your career to have control and be hall where you play and if it's not STL then he's going to use that control and go somewhere he wants to be. Probably east coast USA.

21 Sep 2016 22:38:58
Ottawa doesn't want to pay Stastny, who would be centering there third line, for 7 million bucks.

20 Sep 2016 05:16:47
Chicaho: Hossa
Arizona: Dvorak +3rd

or

Chicago: Hossa
Boston: Griffith (if he's still on the team? )

or

Chicago: Hossa
NYI: Del Colle OR Ho Sang

or

Chicago: Hossa
Ottawa: Drieger + 3rd

what's closest? who adds in any of them?

20 Sep 2016 06:30:14
So bad.

20 Sep 2016 12:14:49
The only close one is Ottawa because Driedger most likely won't be a starter.

21 Sep 2016 01:43:22
By your reasoning here, Seth Griffith is worth the same as Dvorak and a 3rd? When you make 4 trade options for one guy, look back and see if the pieces from each team are equal. not even close here.

20 Sep 2016 05:36:02
Edmonton: Eberle
Ottawa: Ceci

or

Edmonton: Yakupov
Ottawa: Ceci.

20 Sep 2016 06:31:03
WTF. Do you think Eberle and Yak have the same value or something?
Ott adds a little for Eberle.
Edm adds more with Yak one.

20 Sep 2016 06:58:26
Hahahaha yeah because Eberle and Yak carry the same value. My god.

20 Sep 2016 15:35:21
I agree with Yup.

20 Sep 2016 16:48:26
Stop man.

20 Sep 2016 05:25:35
TB: Callahan
Ottawa: Hoffman.

20 Sep 2016 06:34:19
Hoffman has more value than Callahan straight up.
A lot more probably.

20 Sep 2016 07:02:25
Like stop.

20 Sep 2016 12:16:35
These guys aren't even in the same bracket.

19 Sep 2016 11:32:17
ottawa: ceci, 2nd round pick, neil
edmonton: rnh. yakupov.

19 Sep 2016 15:20:33
Delete 2nd and Neil from Ottawa and add Karlson because that's the only player that nets RNH from Edmonton! Edm can add prospect Pitlik or Simpson.

Otherwise NO RNH for Ottawa!
Future Selke winner for Past Norris winner sounds about right.

Revised for just Ceci (After the expansion draft June 20th)

Hendrix, Musil.

19 Sep 2016 15:28:01
Take out Yak and the 2nd and you may have a deal.

19 Sep 2016 15:56:08
Borje that's just silly.
Edm would jump on the deal, but that's just too far out there. Even for Oiler fans to fathom. lol

Karlson (caz that's the ONLY player that RNH will be traded for from Ottawa),
Ceci,
Neil

for

RNH?
Is just too far out there.


Think Edm better add to make the deal more realistic.
If Yak is out according to you, then that leaves Hendrix, Kassian, Letestu, Lander, Pakarinin, Minor league prospects excepting Ethan Bear to close the deal and 3rd to 7th round picks.

Gonna be a tough sell in Ottawa even with the add.

19 Sep 2016 16:08:37
K99 Karlsson for RNH is ridiculous. RNH is not a future Selke winner and Karlsson is still in his prime.

19 Sep 2016 16:49:32
Xcing.
Sorry not ridiculous. and yes he will be. You watch.
RNH has yet to hit his prime.

You want RNH . YOU PAY! End of question. He isn't going for nothing short of an All star.
Not for 2 average Joe players like Ceci and Neil that's for sure.

If an allstar or #1 D isn't in the mix then I'm afraid you're talking to the hand sir if RNH's name is in the trade rumor.

Edm will keep him.

19 Sep 2016 16:59:16
K99 no RNH doesn't get you Karlsson. Please accept that. I agree Nuge is good but he's not getting a franchise Norris Trophy defenseman.

19 Sep 2016 17:18:19
K99. I like the enthusiasm but you make some of us Oilers fans look bad man.

19 Sep 2016 18:08:40
It's actually become a daily ritual for me to look at k99's posts and comments on my breaks to get a good laugh.

His valuation is so far off I have to think he's never watched a game in his life.

19 Sep 2016 18:21:53
Mc Jesus
Oh agree. something else has to go with RNH to Ottawa. But Ottawa isn't getting RNH + the something else unless it's Karlson in the mix. ( and no. Not for Phaneuf Not for Ceci + other average Joe. . Only Karlson)

It took too long for Edmonton to accrue the organizatioinal Center depth. Can't give it away for average Joe's. or Ceci's / Neil's in this case.

Yup
Don't think of it as looking bad. Think of it as we the Armchair GM's are of the mindset that the Oilers DO NOT want to give up the best 2 way player they have on the team that puts in 100% effort game in and game out. Some players on the team have been accused of less than 100% efforts game in and game out. But not him. Trading the 1 guy ( with respect to Hendrix ) that does put in this effort is a bad organizational move. He's ONLY 23. Best years to come. The trolls know this and push for the undervaluation in the trade. Why do you think he's always listed in trades? Because they want him and want him for nothing to improve their team.
Sorry, this asset is too valuable and you got to play hardball with the trolls trying to attain him for average joe players. If you're a true Oilers fan that watches the games you understand his true value. If you're a Calgary troll, who wishes misfortune upon the Oilers you push for the asset to be gone for the scraps usually listed.

I do not appologize for my valuation of this important piece and give REAL GM PC full marks for not doing something stupid and trading him for the garbage suggested by the people that want him. but don't want to give an equal piece back.

19 Sep 2016 21:04:36
K99 if you want Karlson it will take

Nurse, Klefbom, RNH and Draistle.

19 Sep 2016 22:55:17
Please tone it down a little and stop making us look bad. K thanks.

20 Sep 2016 04:14:15
Don't worry guys, most us know it's the individual and not the oiler fan base. I myself take offense when people group all leaf fans as being delusional. The odd trade proposal I make usually gets bashed by leaf fans.

19 Sep 2016 11:30:57
arizona: strome
new york islanders: pulock, 2nd

new york: ho-sang, del colle
ottawa: hoffman, pageau.

19 Sep 2016 12:20:06
Your trades are so off.

19 Sep 2016 12:21:59
Ottawa declines.

19 Sep 2016 16:25:07
Yeah I agree with KingsLover bro u got to stop.

18 Sep 2016 01:44:18
MTL: David Deharnhais, 3rd
CGY: Matt Stajan, Jyrki Jokipakka

MTL: Alexei Emelin, 6th
EDM: Mark Fayne

MTL: Andrei Markov, 7th
CGY: Dennis Wideman

MTL: 1st Round Pick, Tomas Plekanec, Nathan Beaulieu, Greg Pateryn, 6th Round Pick
EDM: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Nail Yakupov

MTL: Paul Byron, Mike Condon, 3rd Round Pick
OTT: Dion Phaneuf (25% Retained)

Rebuilding process

Pattioretty - Galchenyuk - Yakupov
Radulov - Nugent-Hopkins - Gallagher
Lekhonen - Danault - Shaw
Carr - Stajan - Andrighetto

Phaneuf - Weber
Petry - Wideman
Jokipakka - Fayne

18 Sep 2016 06:59:41
No from Calgary
No from Edmonton
No from Montreal
No from Edmonton
No from Ottawa.

18 Sep 2016 15:38:23
Why does Montreal want to rebuild? . this was a 100+ point team the year before Price was hurt.
Yes. it would be nice for some improvements. however. other GMS aren't going to be swindled in to taking our bad contracts. to get . ya have to give. and I jus don't see Habs having a lot to give. other than some core peices that I wouldn't want to see go.

18 Sep 2016 21:37:11
Montreal is stuck with boat anchor contract Plekanic. Oilers do not want him.
Delete RNH from trade rumors. Future Selke candidate is staying put unless it nets a true #1 Dman after the vegas draft. Yak for 1st and 3rd is a possibility.

Calgary is stuck with Wideman. No one wants the penalty drawing machine. Habs needs Markov to train their awesome new Russian dman draft pick. No way habs trade him.

Dion would fit in Mtl, but Mtl needs to give up more.

18 Sep 2016 23:55:43
K99 you're right on with plekanec, kind of on with RNH. He shouldn't go anywhere unless you get a real good D man however thinking he is going to fetch you a true #1 defensman is a pipe dream, and yak is not getting a first and 3rd. Keep him. How many true number 1 dmen are in the league? And how many get traded? I can think of 2 being traded in the last number of years and they were traded for each other lol Weber and subban. Unfortunately not for a real good young 2nd line centre.

19 Sep 2016 01:13:06
unbiased
agree rnh alone won't get the #1 D man but he and another asset or 2 should net one or he needs to be kept.

If Yak doesn't get a 1 and a 3 yes keep him.

19 Sep 2016 02:41:12
Big no from Habs to all of these horrible deals


REL MTL: Andrei Markov, 7th
CGY: Dennis Wideman

why would Habs add a 7th? Markov had 44 pts last season, and 50 pts the prior year that. and he hasn't missed a game due to injury in past 4 seasons
Wideman is useless, 19 pts last year and is heading to AHL.

19 Sep 2016 02:49:44
Plejhan had morb points the RNH, Habs don't want to get worse and pick up a bad longtrem contract

Oils need to offer up Nurse and Draisaitl (they can keep RNH and the Yakster)

19 Sep 2016 02:51:25
Sens can keep Celine Dion.

18 Sep 2016 01:31:34
OTT: Dion Phaneuf
EDM: Brandon Davidson, Benoit Pouliot, 2nd, Jordan Oesterle

After expansion of course

Oils d
Klefbom - Phaneuf
Nurse - Larsson
Reinhart - Fayne

18 Sep 2016 07:00:19
That's literally one of the dumbest trades Iv seen on here in a while.

18 Sep 2016 21:44:35
2nd round pick would need to be deleted. Oilers don't have 1. reasonable trade after the vegas draft except its for Phaneuf, and Davidson won't be available as he'll be lost to Vegas.

17 Sep 2016 02:33:47
NYR: Girardi, Skjei, Zuccarello, 1st rounder 2018

Ottawa: Karlsson, Methot.

17 Sep 2016 09:23:49
Not enough.

17 Sep 2016 10:16:19
Add another 1st and Ottawa might consider.

17 Sep 2016 12:14:04
LOL that is so bad. ANY trade for Karlsson from the Rags would start with McDounagh + Buchnevich + Zuccarelo + a couple other picks/ pieces
for Karlsson + maybe a cap dump.

17 Sep 2016 14:00:43
Very few players in the league could get a karlsson conversation started and no one on this list is one of them. Not even close.

18 Sep 2016 01:07:12
If you want Ottawa to gut it's defense, maybe the team, it would take a lot more than that.

16 Sep 2016 02:03:02
ottawa: turris, stone
chicago: kruger, hossa, 2nd.

16 Sep 2016 06:39:13
wow. huge no from ott.

16 Sep 2016 07:41:51
Oh man. Maybe add Roszival and the Sens can throw in Erik Karlsson and a 3rd.

16 Sep 2016 12:09:34
Turris >> Kruger
Stone > Hossa

2nd doesn't even come close to making up the difference.

16 Sep 2016 13:38:47
If it wasn't for hossa's age, Kruger and hossa are two of the best defensive forwards in the league but not worth two young offensive guys . Hossa is still a really effective player at his age but Hawks won't get much for him cause of age and contract, better off keeping him. I think Hawks will end up trading Crawford next summer depending on how their new Swedish performs this year.

16 Sep 2016 13:56:20
Kaner seems desperate to move hossa but no one is touching these offers. At this deadline if they wanted just a mid to late pick and a team really wanted his defense and his leadership, but the Hawks will most likely be heading back to the playoffs as well and want him. His play has declined but that's not what's going to make him hard to move, 5 more years at 5.275 million and a full NMC which obviously throws a wrench into teams expansion draft plans is going to mean if he's ever moved you're paying to do it unfortunately, not getting mark stone and Kyle turris lol.

16 Sep 2016 20:18:17
As a Sens fan I would like to bring Hossa back to Ottawa, but not for that. Big cap hit and little salary to be paid out. let's Ottawa "spend" to that cap without actually spending to the cap. I would love Ottawa to have 3 scoring line depth.

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
MacArthur - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Hossa.

16 Sep 2016 01:59:06
buffalo: kane
ottawa: pageau + 2nd + conditional 3rd (if ottawa makes it to conference finals and kane plays at least 50% of their games)

16 Sep 2016 12:11:51
Pageau had a better season last year and is not a locker room cancer. No thanks.

16 Sep 2016 12:45:05
Pageau scored 7 SHG last season that has value.

 
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