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30 May 2015 04:13:18
Ott: Cowen, Anderson, 2nd (Dal)
Ott: Neil, Michalek, 3rd (2016)
Ott: Gryba, Smith
Phi: Andrew MacDonald, 4th
- Phillips retires after training camp.
- Buyout greening.
Zibanejad 4 yrs, 2.7 ava
Hoffman 2 yrs, 2.5 ava
Stone 5 yrs, 3.5 ava
Pageau 2 yrs, 1.7 ava
Condra negotiations fall through.
A potentially "Better looking" sens. Just a few ideas, Thoughts?
30 May 2015 13:11:45
1st of all how did you get Wideman? And 2nd of all he would easily be in your top 4 if he was on your team.
29 May 2015 03:27:43
Ottawa: Cowen, michalek, Phillips, Neil, Anderson, 2nd
Edmonton: Draisatl, 2nd
Edmonton: Shultz, pitlick
Washington: rights to green, Brouwer, 5th
Washington: Carrick, 1st, latta
Chicago: Bickell, versteeg, 3rd
Buffalo: catenacci, Zadorov
Montreal: beaulieu, fucale, bournival, 3rd
Edmonton: fasth, 3rd
Edmonton: 2016 2nd
Los Angeles: Martin jones
29 May 2015 12:27:38
rather keep yak and change cowan to ceci
29 May 2015 12:46:40
So you trade for Reimer, Anderson, Jones and still have Scrivens???
29 May 2015 13:49:15
Why does Edmonton have 4 NHL goalies. Not getting Zadorov for that.
29 May 2015 14:34:24
only one worth looking at is the seabrook trade.
29 May 2015 15:09:22
Doesn't Seabrook have 1 year left? So we're giving up our top prospect for 1 year of Seabrook. I hate it
28 May 2015 21:29:50
1:st overall: McDavid (OFC)
Horcoff 2 years 1,5 million/year
Green 2 years 6 million/year
Schultz 4 years 4 million/year
BUF: 4:th 2015
EDM: Draisaitl and 33:th overall
EDM: Ference, Pitlick, 79:th 2015 and 2:nd 2016
EDM: 3:rd 2016, Roy and Slepyshev
Hall (6) - McDavid (1) - Eberle (6) - 13
Iginla (5,3) - RNH (6) - Yakupov (2) - 12,3
Poliout (4) - Gordon (3) - Purcell (4,5) - 11,5
Lander (1) - Horcoff (1,5) - Hendricks (1,8) - 3,7
Green (6) - Seabrook (5,8) - 11,8
Schultz (4) - Klefbom (1,3) - 5,3
Fayne (3,5) - Nurse (1) - 4,5
Anderson (3,2) - Scrivens (2,3)
28 May 2015 22:32:34
Not biased except for the Colorado trade is hard to see with iginla but Ya never know
28 May 2015 23:45:57
Anderson would get more than that imo
29 May 2015 00:07:22
Slepyshev won't get traded as he was recently signed u don't sign players only to get rid of them
29 May 2015 00:30:17
also wheres marincin
29 May 2015 01:00:27
Hey Kemo sahbee, why should Murray give Chiarelli a 4th to take on a salary dump so the Oilers can get under the cap. How about Buffalo trades Mark Adams to Edmonton for Nikita Nikitin and a 5th?
29 May 2015 01:08:59
I like Chicago trade a lot
28 May 2015 19:57:16
Okay EDM fans
OTT: Mike Hoffman, Robin Lehner, Jared Cowen, 2015 2nd (DAL), 2016 2nd
EDM: Taylor Hall
Or OTT can take out the two second rounders and instead put thier 18th pick on this years draft, which gives EDM MORE trade assets for teams looking for 1st Rd picks
28 May 2015 22:14:52
Take out one of the 2nd round picks and change Cowen to Cici and I think its a good deal.
29 May 2015 18:13:07
Replace the 2nd round pick (OTT) and replace it with the 1st round pick (OTT). Unless the Sens plan on using that pick, I don't see much point holding on to it if they need a proven top 6 player.
28 May 2015 18:55:11
2015 2nd round pick (33rd)
28 May 2015 19:03:23
Not enough for Anderson. Throw in Justin Schulz.
28 May 2015 19:22:10
I do agree that Anderson is worth more than just a second round pick . But with the crowded crease in Ottawa and addition of Matt O'connor and signing of Andrew Hammond. I think they will be looking to move him during the offseason, particularly to a team in the opposing conference. Even if the Oilers offered both there 2nd rounders it would be a good trade, But I can't see the Oilers moving Schultz (even with the horrific year he had especially under Dallas Eakins). He's a strong puck mover and good second line power play quarterback with an accurate shot, definitely needs to work on his defensive positioning and grittiness in his own end tho.
28 May 2015 19:23:39
lol u can have him
28 May 2015 20:49:37
u can hve shultz for free
28 May 2015 17:09:48
Not an oilers fan but I'm bored lol
Wsh:Eberle, 33rd, 16th
Edm:Alzner, rights to green, brouwer, 2016 1st,2016 3rd, 2015 3rd
Ott: Pitlick, Lander
Edm: Anderson, 2016 4th
Offer Seabrook contract
Hall rnh mcdavid
Yak Leon brouwer
Puliot Roy Purcell
Gadzic Hendricks Fraser
Comment lol I wasn't trying, tell me how bad it is
28 May 2015 16:21:24
Correction to my last post. I realized Elliot would not be going to OTT because of the crowded crease.
STL: Patrik Berglund, 3rd Round Pick (2016)
OTT: Robin Lehner
STL: 3rd Round (2015)
EDM: Brian Elliot
28 May 2015 21:49:37
Elliot is worth much more to STL than a 3rd. He has put up incredible numbers since he's gone there and has had great success with them. STL would be making a huge mistake to get rid of him for such a low price. Allen will still need this year splitting the duties until he is NHL ready.
28 May 2015 16:16:20
STL: Robin Lehner, Milan Michalek
OTT: Patrik Berglund, Brian Elliot
28 May 2015 18:34:11
Read my updated post
28 May 2015 15:26:48
Ott: Legwand, Anderson, 2nd (DAL)
Buf: Hodgson, Grigorenko
28 May 2015 21:12:19
It is hard for Hodgson & Grigorenko to have a lower value right now. I would not trade them if I were Murray.
28 May 2015 05:57:47
Canucks need some retooling this off season and Benning likes his picks in the draft, which the canucks lack in missing 2nds in the next up coming drafts.
First of all Canucks Trades Bieksa, Higgins, and a prospect in either Cederholm or Gaunce (dont know spelling ), if higgins or bieksa don't resign, a 3rd in 2017 to Ottawa For a 2nd round pick this year or next, as well as Patrick Wiercioch.
Canucks clear cap in this Move, as well as add youth and a big body to their blueline, and ottawa adds scoring depth upfront, a veteran dman in Bieksa who plays Ottawa's style, and a prospect choice and safety for youth. Patrick Wiercioch comes to his hometown and bieksa moves close to his as well.
Canucks trade Hamhuis back to Nashville for a 2nd in next year and bourque.
Another Cap Move and adds youth again to their line up. Veteran dman to help the preds.
Canucks Trade Burrows and retain 15% of salary to Washington For a 3rd in next year
Canucks go out sign Franson, Bartkowski,
Sedins and Virtanen
Horvat, Vrbata, Kassian
Shinkaruk, Bonino, Borque ( Unless Matthias resigns, takes Shinkaruks place)
Richardson, Hansen, Dorsett
Kennins, Vey are Extra's
Stanton Biega, Bartkowski are Extra's, maybe subban
28 May 2015 10:32:22
Yeah, bc NSH is so desperate for D help.
28 May 2015 10:48:53
Trust me, you don't want Bartkowski.
28 May 2015 13:39:52
Hamius could probably get a bit more, can't see Nashville going after him. I also think jake Virtanan will be playing on the Canucks next season
28 May 2015 14:36:08
Whoops didn't see him in your lineup, my bad
27 May 2015 23:55:43
Ott: Michalek, Cowen, Puempel, 2RD (DAL)
CAR: Skinner, T. Carrick
Ott clears up roster space and nasty contracts, Skinner finds a new home after a dissapointing season.
27 May 2015 23:03:57
Ottawa: Anderson, Cowen, Neil, Phillips, 4th
28 May 2015 08:32:46
cowen isn't that good neil and phillips r a bunch of old guys and anderson is good but old edm says hell no
28 May 2015 11:26:37
Quantity doesn't equal quality.
27 May 2015 21:31:41
My hope for Dallas' offseason:
To Dal: Robin Lehner
To Ott: Jordie Benn and a 2nd
To Dal: Brent Seabrook
To Chi: Jamie Oleksiak
Conditional 2nd, becomes a 1st if Seabrook resigns
Michael Frolik 4 years, 3.5 per
Benn Seguin Nichushkin
Frolik Spezza Hemsky
Roussel Eakin Ritchie
Mckenzie Fiddler Garbutt
27 May 2015 21:57:13
I actually don't mind the Jordie benn deal it's just that Gryba, and Borowiecki are cheaper/younger version of J benn that get the work done In our bottom pairing D effectively
27 May 2015 22:30:44
Jordie Benn only makes 700k, doesn't get cheaper than that
28 May 2015 02:31:24
I like the Chicago deal. Good return for seabrook. I'd do it!
28 May 2015 21:32:24
I'm okat with going to the Nations Capitol, lol.
27 May 2015 16:38:53
Random trade ideas
EDM: Dion Phaneuf
TOR: Teddy Purcell, Nikita Nikitin, 16th Overall Pick
OTT: Jujhar Kahria, 2nd Round Pick (2016)
EDM: Robin Lehner
NYR: 2nd Round Pick (2015)
SJS: Cam Talbot
27 May 2015 17:41:12
Rather keep phaneuf. Rather keep lehner. And add another pick for talbot
27 May 2015 18:17:52
Dont think you will get both goalies because why?, I like the idea for the Phaneuf trade and people will disagree with me but I think that's fair value, However I think the oilers will stay away from phaneuf mostly b/c of that contract.
26 May 2015 21:23:34
St. Louis: rattie
Ottawa: Anderson, 2nd, Cowen, Neil
Ottawa: methot, 2016 3rd
Winnipeg: Lowry, 6th
Chicago: McNeil, 3rd
26 May 2015 22:13:16
So McNeil & a 4th gets you Point as posted on another trade, now the same McNeil & a 3rd suddenly gets you Lazar? I don't think so
26 May 2015 22:18:22
Every one of those is biased towards Ottawa untill the last one then I see your a chicago fan haha
26 May 2015 22:57:32
I love how you casually try to sneak in a brutal trade at the very end since you're a hawks fan. I got a good laugh. Lazar to the hawks makes no sense, none of the players that they would consider moving (ie. Bickell, Richards, etc. ) would be enough for Lazar.
26 May 2015 23:17:14
Your dreaming if you think that gets you Rattie or Lazar.
27 May 2015 01:12:17
am I the only one that sees Pageau for a 4th????
27 May 2015 04:03:11
The bottom 4 are brutal trades for ottawa.
27 May 2015 08:15:26
@BJ96: generally, you're right. don't underestimate Point, tho. Guy tore apart the WHL, kid is for real.
26 May 2015 21:08:46
OTT: Cowen + 5th
BUY OUT: Chris Phillips, Chris Neil, and Colin Greening
My consolidation trade:
OTT: Chris Phillips, Jared Cowen + 3rd (2016)
BUF: Gorges (retain 50% of salary)
Brian gets $3.7MM cap relief and a locker-room leader. Tim gets a young large former 1st round defense-man, a veteran defense-man, a draft pick and help reaching the cap floor.
Please comment only on my consolidation trade. If you think this is unbelievable please explain your reasons.
27 May 2015 03:50:42
You can only buyout 2 players
27 May 2015 20:31:45
So I requested feedback why only my consolidated trade is unbelievable. 5 votes Unbelievable and the only comment is on BOOBIES suggestion. I seem to remember most thought the trade was fair before, now I wanted to get more comments. Is it bad for Tim or Brian Murray?
26 May 2015 01:50:39
Ottawa: ryan and cowen
Carolina: e. Stall
Cannnuck :one sedin, bo horvat
Leaf: kessel, phaneuf
Shark: Marleau, vlasick
26 May 2015 15:47:43
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Toronto in a rebuild? Oh yeah, they are.
26 May 2015 17:34:07
If leafs got any sedin i'd quite hockey
26 May 2015 23:55:36
We trade problem for problem!
If you think that you leaf are getting kessel for 3 good and a and a top draft pick you're dead wrong
25 May 2015 20:37:51
WHAT I HOPE BRYAN MURRAY DOES
TRADE: Zack Smith,Milan Michalek and David Legwand to teams interested and in need
BUY OUT: Chris Phillips, Chris Neil, and Colin Greening
OTT: Robin Lehner, Jared Cowen, 2015 1st (18th) 2015 2nd (44th from DAL)
EDM: Taylor Hall
Hall - Zibanejad - Ryan
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Hoffman - Pageau - Condra
Prince - Lazar - Puempel/Paul/Lindberg
Methot - Karlsson
Wiercioch - Ceci
Gryba - Borowiecki/Wideman/Claesson
Hoffman, Stone, Zibanejad, Condra, Chiasson
EDM THIS PROPOSAL IS LEGIT i'd TAKE IT FOR HALL
25 May 2015 20:52:29
U can only have 2 buyouts, not enough for hall, doubt they do that to Phillips anyway.
25 May 2015 21:06:13
The Sens fan in me is screaming "YESSS OMG!" if this deal was to ever happen, but I doubt PC makes the same mistake he made when he traded Seguin to Dallas. OTT still adds more.
25 May 2015 21:46:47
Not even close to enough value for Hall.
25 May 2015 21:47:27
@Bud, you can have as many buyouts as you want, the compliance buyout period is long gone.
25 May 2015 21:54:29
Hahaha! No, it is not legit. Were is the real value in that trade for Hall, one of the top few LW in the game? Lehner hasn't done F all, Cowen has been a disappointment (hence why you added him and not Cici) and a 1st and 2nd don't make up for anything. Try again, This time try at least adding Stone/Hoffman/Cici in there.
25 May 2015 22:01:38
What you hope and reality are 2 totally different things
25 May 2015 23:35:57
Actually think Hall would look good in Ottawa but don't if they'd want to offer up a package Oilers would except.
26 May 2015 00:33:44
Actually, the deal does NOT work for Edm. For one, it sets them back in their rebuild by trading away one of their most developed players for more picks. That's how you stand still in a rebuild. Also, Lehner is unproven and had a bad season and concussion issues. He's too big a risk to be the main piece in a deal for a team's top forward. This deal could potentially set edmonton back rather than help them. No way would I agree to this proposal.
26 May 2015 00:47:25
Not close for the hall trade Ottawa needs to add a lot more
26 May 2015 00:53:46
Bud. You only get 2 compliance buyouts, you can buy out any other contracts you want. But it costs half the annual cap hit for double the term remaining (example 3 million per year with 2 years remaining will cost 1.5 million over 4 years)
29 May 2015 01:19:48
this makes way more "sens"
OTT: Hoffman, Lehner, Cowen, 2nd pick(dallas) or even maybe a first
25 May 2015 19:26:22
Hit send by accident! Continued from my last post though!
PIT: Bennet, Harrington/Dumoulin, and a 3rd
ARI: Boedeker and a 3rd
Target UFAs Tlusty and Beleskey
Target RFAs Hoffman, Stone, Zibinajed, Hagelin, and Jurco
*Ottawa has some tough choices to make with a bunch of RFAs. With any luck Hoffman or Zibinajed could fall to the Pens. I believe Stone gets resigned over and above both of them. Stephan and Hagelin are both RFAs with Stephan looking to get paid. Ottawa however could deal one of their three goalies and create some cap room.
25 May 2015 21:09:19
I like the Arizona trade, not sure zibinajad goes anywhere, may get Hoffman if anyone.
26 May 2015 05:13:12
Way to much for boedker
25 May 2015 19:06:01
OTT- Lehner, Ceci, Chaisson
I don't want to give up on Draisaitl yet because people seem to be undervaluing him when no one really knows his value. But the trade fills holes for the Oilers. What's Chaissons potential?
Gives Ottawa there top 6 forward that would probably pay wing.
Might have to add picks on either side.
25 May 2015 19:33:14
As a sens fan I would swap out Ceci for Cowen and if Oilers accepted that I would say done deal
Chiasson has some potential but doesn't fit in well in our system in Ottawa
25 May 2015 20:10:34
not bad maybe add a second from edm tho
25 May 2015 21:02:26
I actually like this, though I'd potentially trade Andy instead of Lehner. Either way it's good value for Draisatl
25 May 2015 22:00:01
Not too bad. Adds to the there holes I think Edm has. G, D and Third line winger. I don't believe they are ready to trade Leon at all tho. It would have to be for an offer that they absolutely couldn't say no to. Like one solid D man that is legit number 2/3 man or something. Like something along the lines of a Josi or Seth Jones. Not saying them particularly, just along the lines. And not something straight up, Edm could add to get one of them. I'm just sayin that's the type they would be after.
25 May 2015 23:40:14
No reason Ottawa can't make playoffs again so I think Anderson gives them the best chance to and as far as I know Lenher has more trade value.