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24 Apr 2014 03:10:33
Leafs Trades and Signings (Offseason):
Toronto: Eberle, 3rd
Edmonton: Gunnarsson, Lupul, rights to Reimer
Ottawa: Kadri, McKegg, 2nd (2015)
Toronto: Giordano, 4th overall (2014)
Calgary: Phaneuf, 8th overall (2014)
Sign: Vanek (5 yrs/$6M)
Leafs Roster 2014-2015:
JvR - Bozak - Kessel
4. 25 4. 2 8. 0 -> 16. 45
Vanek - Spezza - Eberle
6. 0 6. 0 6. 0 -> 18
Raymond - Bolland - Clarkson
2. 5 4. 5 5. 5 -> 12. 5
Biggs - McClement - Komarov
1. 0 2. 0 1. 0 -> 4. 0
*$50. 65 M
Giordano - Granberg
4. 0 1. 0 -> 5. 0
Gardiner - Gleason
2. 5 4. 0 -> 6. 5
Franson - Rielly
3. 0 1. 0 -> 4. 0
*$15. 5 M
Bernier / MacIntyre
3. 0 1. 0 -> 4. 0
Total: $70. 15 M
**Dependent on CAP raising to $72 M**
Calgary deal definetly won't happen spezza has a 7m cap hit I think and vanek gets more so in short it doesn't work with the cap
24 Apr 2014 01:55:24
Purely due to positional need.
Ottawa has a over abundance of centers that will be in the league either now, soon or later.
Detroit has some aging vets in the middle and one that isn't wanted I don't think in Weiss.
Want your feed back.
As a sens fan I'd rather have lazar and although the sens have plenty of centers it's easier to shift them to wing. Te world juniors really showed that with lazar where he could play both wings and centre as well as play the pp and the pk.
Said it when wqtching the draft and will say again, lazar was a steal for ottawa at that spot
23 Apr 2014 22:58:00
To Ottawa: Yandle, Samuelsson (prospect), 2nd 2015
To Phx: Spezza, Rights to Michalek (brother on phx)
Ottawa May as well through in rights for Hemsky too there and you can take our entire line
22 Apr 2014 21:18:37
To Toronto: Jason Spezza
To Ottawa: JVR and Nazem Kadri
WAY overpayment b Toronto JVR alone is worth more than Spezza
Really? JVR worth more than Spezza? Hmmm, I think that outside of downtown Toronto, you'd have trouble finding someone to agree with you. You didn't say anything about Kadri. that's ok, nobody else is either. Better luck next year. Maybe the Leafs will finish ahead of the Senators then.
Over payment for spezz sure but I would bet ottawa wants nothing to do with kadri and his ego. they have a ton of depth at c with or without spezza
Spezza is better by stats and experience. the age difference balances out the value. they were both selected at 2nd overall, so you can't say jvr was drafted 2nd overall therefore he's better. I think the potential of jvr might give him an edge on value. but imo, they aren't that far apart on value. kadri doesn't make it that more tempting.
JvR is not worth Spezza, don't kid yourself, Morgan Reilly alone is worth Spezza.
Please tor does not want spezza figure skaters are better than him
Lol I wouldn't even trade even trade Kadri straight up for a lazy, injury prone, declining Spezza
@ the declining and injury prone spezza comment.
gp g a pts
75 23 43 66
on a bad team
Spezza still had a better season.
Spezza is injury prone, and powerforwards are hard to find. to me they're equal in value. but when healthy spezza is a beast
Ottawa and Toronto will never make a trade involving nhl players or high draft picks stop posting messages like this!
22 Apr 2014 16:51:00
Wsh:Tarasanko, dmitrij, polak, allen, 1st, 1st, 2nd,
Ott: berglund, paajarvi, 1st, 3rd
steen backes oshie
ovi spezza ott
schawtz sobotka rattie
porter lapirre craknell
Where is Stl. getting all the 1st round picks from. There is 3 listed in deals
^agree with willi, I they somehow got spezza and ovi that would be a deadly first power play unit for them
The Spezza-Ovi-Ott line would be literally the worst defensive line in the NHL.
^ott is good defensively
Well teams would want stl 1st round pick in like 2017/18 over 2014 so there actually worth more because stl won't be as good
^ you could put weber or chara on the wing with those two and it would still easily be the worst defensive line in the league. maybe the worst ever but they would score some goals
Spezza isn't bad defensively, he's on a bad defensive team with iffy goaltending. ovis not great defensively, but 1 bad player in that aspect of the game doesn't make it a bad line. they would spend most of the time in offensive zone so it doesn't matter if 1 player out of 3 won't play d. did you know there are dmen in hockey.
Spezza is horrible defensively
22 Apr 2014 14:47:12
What would it take the sens to get tj oshie to play wing with spezza and hemsky Maybe
Stl: prince hoffman rights to michalek 3rd
Ottawa adds, maybe an nhl player that has some proven talent, or even a first round pick
Lazar, prince, 1st and Michalek.
That's pretty steep.
^ haha nope!
We are fine with Oshie. Don't want to pay it we will keep him.
22 Apr 2014 03:30:41
Ott: kadri, 1st 2015
Not even close. As bad as Spezza is sometimes, he still rates a LOT more than that.
I think you're stuck with Kadri.
It would be more like a top D (which the Leafs don't really have) a prospect and a first.
Spezza for Reilly and Kadri
Spezza for Rielly, Granberg and 1st 2014 (NHL, prospect and pick)
How about you ottawa try and get 2 figure skaters for spezza that's all he is worth
Nobody wants spezza if you`re asking for so much
21 Apr 2014 20:03:45
Fire Carlyle: Hire: Gilmour
Sign Holland 2 years/1. 5 per
Sign Bodie: 2 years/900 per
Sign: Reimer: 1 year/2. 25 per
Sign Gardiner: 2 years/1. 75 per
Sign: McClement: 1 year/ 1. 5 per
Sign Smith: 3 years/ 700 per
Sign Raymond: 2 years/ 2 per
Sign Abbott: 3 years/ 1 per
Sign: Ranger: 2 years/ 1. 25 per
Sign: TJ Brennan: 1 year/ 1 per
TRADE: Franson, Finn, Gleason, 1st 2016 for Hamhuis
Cap Space: $8, 411, 667 Plenty of space fro another trade!
JVR BOZAK KESSEL
LUPUL KADRI CLARKSON
BIGGS HOLLAND RAYMOND
BODIE MCCLEMENT ABBOTT
BERNIER REIMER (fight for #1 again)
Sadly BERNIER REIMER don't have any fight left in them. Poor D killed them both and you barely changed leagues worst defence.
Basically same crappy lineup. LEAFS NEED Changes!
Reimer won't sign
Gardiner is not going to take 1. 75 million.
He will want at least 2.5 million
Only thing I agree with is hiring gilmour even as an assistant
He's earned it
You won't get raymond for 2M a year
21 Apr 2014 14:19:14
If ANA can't make it past SJ/LA in the second round I think they should make a deal to get a scorer. They especially need this with koivu and selanne retiring and they also need some more salary because they are lined up for over 20mil under cap.
ANA: Lindholm, Silfverberg (RFA
ANA: Fowler, Silfverberg
OTT: Spezza, Weircoch, 3rd
OTT only does these deals if they are unable to resign Hemsky
Spezza isn't worth that much. Not even close
You call Spezza a scorer?
Spezza is a 1 dimentional player, a good 1 dimentional player, but not worth what you put up. Let another team overpay
Spezza is a 70-80 pt player, like him or hate him and would be a great fit 2nd line C in Anaheim. No pressure, no media and not a captain like in Ottawa. I think SoCal is exactly what he needs.
Fowler is going nowhere
21 Apr 2014 05:25:09
Possible landing spots and trades for Spezza:
To Ottawa: Cam Fowler, rights to Jakob Silfverberg, 2014 1st.
To Anaheim: Jason Spezza, 2014 4th.
To Ottawa: Nazem Kadri, Rights to James Reimer, 2015 1st.
To Toronto: Jason Spezza.
To Ottawa: Tyler Myers, Chris Stewart, Cody Hodgson.
To Buffalo: Jason Spezza, Shane Prince, 2015 2nd.
To Ottawa: Sean Couturier, 2014 3rd.
To Philadelphia: Jason Spezza.
To Ottawa: Derek Roy, Jay Bouwmeester.
To St. Louis: Jason Spezza, Jared Cowen.
To Ottawa: Dan Hamhuis, Ryan Kesler.
To Vancouver: Jason Spezza, Jared Cowen, Matt Peumpel.
I'm a season ticket holder, and it really don't want the Sens to move Spezza, the asking price should be high, he is a quality player and I really don't want to see him go to Toronto, unless even if the sens can get slightly less elsewhere.
Um the vancouver trade in a second
Toronto would be stupid to make that trade, no thanks. also don't see the buffalo trade happening as they are in rebuild and spezza doesn't fit that at all, phi wouldn't want spezza either, don't see st. louis parting ways with j bo any time soon, highly doubt anahiem gives up cam fowler or silfverberg, vancouver one seems the most plausible out of all of them
Toronto would have to add a lot more kadri is worth a 3rd round pick at best
^Toronto would be stupid to not make that trade if the cap worked for them. rights to Reimer are not valuable. quit thinking they are.
I do not see you making Detroit as a landing spot for Spezza. Tomas Tatar & 2nd or Tomas Tatar & Riley Sheahan for Spezza. DET then signs Heatley in the off season and reunites him with Alfredsson & Spezza. Remember Heatley was traded against his wishes, Alfredson left to win a cup and Spezza was left in Ottawa. IMO that trade and UFA signing would improve all three of them. All comments are welcomed and encouraged.
Lol 3rd round pick for a 23year ols that had 50point this year give your head a shake
Kadri only just finished his first season and managed to get 50 points. Last year he was almost a ppg. If that's only worth a third then players like hodgson and gagner must be worth fourths. Biases are biases people, check your head
The guy who said kadri gets 50 ppints
great job in saying so
Anaheim would be dumb to make that trade.
Spezza is overated as fuuuu
^ "Jason Spezza is overrated as fuuuu" you are a person and have no idea what you are talking about. He is a 1st line center and one of the most talented in the league. Points per game he is 6th among active players. Only Crosby (1. 398), Malkin (1. 220) Ovechkin (1. 199), Jagr (1. 191) and Selanne (1. 004) are better. How is that overrated. Know what the hell you are talking about.
Spezza has significant lingering injuries and is 30 years old, so young teams who aren't ready to contend don't need him as he will be too old or injured when they are, a lot of these other teams either don't need him as they are already heavy on offense or can't take him because of the cap. spezza isn't entirely over rated, unless your talking to a sens fan. but he isn't needed or wanted by a lot of these other franchises that's what people are trying to convery here. the only 2 I can think of that could really use spezza is the blues and the ducks as they are in contention and could use an upgrade up the middle
^ yes jason spezza has a terrible +/- and is strictly a one dimentional player. He may put up a point per game but because of his defesive lack, he prolly allows 2 points against him while he's on the ice. yes he is overated sense fan must be just mad that their 1st rd goes to the ducks, hha
To the guy suggesting the detroit trade, it isn't going to happen, that lime may have worked a while agi but give up already. Like I said Spezza is valued here in Ottawa but he is one of the best top line centres in the leaugue. 30 isn't that old and he doesn't have significant injury trouble compared to a lot of other players.
The Vancouver one is alright I guess:)
21 Apr 2014 04:35:26
I believe that the leafs will go into the off season wanting to make many moves enough with any chemistry between Bozak and Kessel into the future Kadri is much younger and will fit the bill much better as the leafs #2 center the leafs will go out and get that #1 center they have been looking for finally this offseason:
Lineup without the moves:
Ott: Bozak, Gardiner, Leivo, 1st in 2014 (8th Overall)
Tor: Reimer, Kulieman, Franson, 2nd in 2014
Nyr: Gunnarsson, Granberg, 3rd in 2014
2014-2015 Opening Night Lineup with Signings:
Do u mean colorado
Trade kadri not bozak otherwise really awesome
Rights to a couple players will not get you Kane
Patrick roy has converted o'reilly to wing and he's actually been doing good there and solidifies their top 6. They have no need to trade him
Kane is a great hockey player, but his attitude just makes me not want to take him even for free. He's extremely cocky just like players in the nba and nfl. He does not emulate what it means to be a hockey player. If I'm a gm and I'm trying to build a hockey team to become a stanley cup champion, I don't go anywhere near Kane. Teams that win championships always have great team chemistry and are like a family. If I'm kanes teammate I look at him as a selfish arrogant **** that I'm not going to try my hardest for him because he won't do it for me.
^ don't worry that wouldn't get Kane anyway. and there are 28 other teams who DO want him and will pay more
21 Apr 2014 03:51:57
Ana: 1st round pick ( via Ottawa)
Mtl: hudon, 3rd, 4th
Nj: 1st rp (30th)
Draft Ritchie, tuch and mckeown
Anaheim needs young defence
Perfect trade for both teams
And draft mckeown to replace beaulieu
Beaulieu is not worth a top ten pick
Nj can't trade their pick
Anaheim doesn't need young defence. Vatenan, Lindholm, and Fowler are doing great as it is.
Vancouver is drafting Richie 6th overall, thank you very much.
21 Apr 2014 01:46:37
To Vancouver: Weircioch, Greening, Prince
To Ottawa: Hamhuis
If love to have hamhuis good vetern guy who's been to the finals and has a couple golds, but would take more than "potential" players to get him
Sens add Boroweicki
I think bieksa or edler are out before hamhuis.
21 Apr 2014 01:08:38
At the draft
Ottawa- 1st 2014 (Ott), Smith-Pelly and Rights to Silfverberg
That seems a little steep for Spezza
Ottawa is already loaded with young wingers, and with Silfverberg as part of the trade Smith-Pelly is of no interest, plus Spezza is worth more than a first a mid range prospect and an occasional top six forward. Anaheim adds Fowler or Murray hangs up, lots of other teams that want a number one centre are willing to add more.
Spezza is going to be 30 (if he isn't already. ) With that said, you are overvaluing him. Not to mention, the Ducks don't really need Spezza.
Depending on if the ducks make it the cup final, they may realize they'll need a guy like spezza next year to put them over the top
Especially if teemu and koivu retire
19 Apr 2014 20:52:05
To Philly: Spezza, Weircioch
To Ottawa: B & L Schenn
More going to ottawa wercoich is going to be a good solid Dman
The Flyers already have Giroux and Schenn, why in the world do they need Speeza?
Because Spezza is an upgrade for schenn right now exactly what philly would want if they are trying to win the cup now. Duhhhhh.
19 Apr 2014 20:47:20
Edm needs D and Moroz plays with Lazar in WHL
The Oilers need Moroz in the future more than they need Borocop.
19 Apr 2014 00:24:44
Ottawa off season
Ottawa trades: Spezza, Weircioch, Greening, 2nd
Phx trades: Yandle, Boedker
Ottawa trades: Prince, Hoffman
Buffalo trades: Stewart
UFA Boyle (NYR)
Condra, Pageau, Lazar, Boro, Gryba
I really would like to see Stewart in a SBR uniform but if the trade was: Ottawa trades: Shane Prince & 2nd to Buffalo for Chris Stewart, CUL8R Chris!
No point in the stewart trade, he is very talented but is very lazy, he takes to many games off to be worth prince and hoffman
18 Apr 2014 20:36:00
Sign FA Ottawa boy Danny Boyle! 2yr 10mil
Sign: Hemsky 4yr 20mil
Sign: Michalek 3yr 9mil
Extend: Ryan 5yr 30mil
Extend: Macarthur 4yr 16mil
let Kassian Walk
Michalek - Spezza - Hemsky
Macarthur - Turris - Ryan
Hoffman -Zibanejad - Stone
Greening - Smith - Condra
Methot - Karlsson
Boyle - Ceci
Scratches: Neil, Cowen, Borowiecki
OTTs offence is in good shape, all top 9 forwards are capable of atleast 20 goal seasons + Karlsson too.
What OTT really needs is good leadership and a veteran presence in defence. Phillips, Spezza and Neil failed to bring in leadership this year and with the disappearance of Alfredsson and Gonchar, it just made everthing worse. Dan Boyle should be able to bring back that leadership and veteran presence that OTT needs.
Pretty good if the plans are to keep spezza. I think Ryan would want more though.
As a sens fan I'd rather see Phillips as an extra and have Cowen playing what happened to gryba? Would rather see him stay for ottawa as another extra option than an unproven boro. Hardest part for ottawa will be managing the defense inless they trade guys out.
I like your lines though solid mix of offense and defense with some gritty lines in there as well
Id love to see all top 9 fwds on any team all score 20 goals, but in real life those things don't happen. But some of your top six will get near 30 or possibly more and some will be 10-20 in your top 9
Borowiecki I believe has a one year contract next season
One year one way contract you mean?
I still see this line-up failing dramatically like this years line-up.
17 Apr 2014 22:07:54
Ottawa trades: Spezza, Anderson, Cowen, Hoffman
Washington trades: Backstrom, Carlson
Ottawa gets an elite centre and the Karlsson/Carlson combo
Washingston gets a #1 goalie, a big defenceman with lots of potential and a good prospect in Hoffman (top AHL scoring)
And the Spezza/Ovechkin combo would be something to see. 100 points each guaranteed (also have +/- of -50 each. )
Many benefits for both teams
Terrible for Washington. Backstrom > Spezza
Carlson >> Cowen and the difference isn't a 32 year old goaltender and a career AHLer.
Carlson, Ok ya he's obviously a better player than Cowen.
But Spezza, he is more impactful player and more skilled player than Backstrom. Backstrom has made a career of giving the puck to Ovechkin and letting him skate the ice and score. Backstrom is a 2nd line center. He is NOT a elite 1st line center like Spezza is.
^Spezza is about to be 30 (4 years older) and in no definable way elite compared to Backstrom. Both players are roughly Point per game over their careers. You are a homer if you think Backsttom is in any way a 2nd line C. And if you do some research over his career Backstroms numbers increase when Ovi is out of the lineup so he's not just feeding Ovi
Backstrom has more value than Spezza and Carlson has more value than Cowen. that is why Anderson and Hoffman are in the deal
^ Anderson is a 30 YEAR OLD GOALIE coming off a bad season (not to mention Washington has 3 goalies), Hoffman is a 24 YEAR OLD CAREER AHLER (great that he lead the AHL in scoring, at 24 he was a man playing against teenagers so he should be expected to outscore his peers). Neither are pieces that would interest the Capitals in a quantity-for-quality trade involving their elite 1st line center and young top-pairing Dman.
17 Apr 2014 16:28:13
Boston Krug and a 2nd round pick
Phoenix Keith Yandle
Ottawa Jason Spezza
Winnipeg Blake Wheeler and a 2nd
Vancouver Ryan Kesler
NYR Brassard and a 1st
Edmonton 2nd round pick
Toronto Rights to RFA James Riemer
CGY Curtis Glencross
Toronto Biggs and a 3rd
How many times does it have to be said? The oilers don't need reimer and he is worth a 3rd at best.
Can’t see any of these happening. Not enough for Yandle. Winnipeg wouldn't take Spezza straight up for Wheeler. Kesler is in decline. Edmonton is better off holding on to the pick. Calgary needs a veteran presence to lead their youth.
Krug Is untradable
17 Apr 2014 03:29:49
To Ottawa: Cam Fowler, 2015 1st, rights to Jakob Silverberg
To Anaheim: Jason Spezza, Mike Hoffman, 2014 3rd
Ducks want depth at D. Gibson and Anderson are young and may make mistakes. They will need the help. Ducks could use Spezza money on D and then look for a scorer
Looks good- Send it to Murray!
Good trade but I think that Ottawa needs to retain some $
Great trade, in the sense that equal value going each way.
(Koivu, Selanne assume to retire)
^ Stud line up especially down the middle.
(Wiercoch, Cowen, Phillips)/Gryba
^ need to move a left handed defenseman. Too cluttered on the back end especially with Borowiecki (another Left handed D) NHL ready. If I had it my way I wouldn't have re-signed Phillips.
No way ottawa retains, Spezza only has a year left anyways then he's anaheims problem, I really like him and want him to stay with the Sens but if they can't get something done, Murray has to move him this summer.
16 Apr 2014 14:43:08
Ottawa: : Lindholm, Smith-Pelly
Not enough going ottawas way
At the draft
Ottawa: 1st round pick back, Silvferberg, rights to Hiller
Throw in a pick, and it's done. BUT. I'd actually keep Spezza if it meant Hemsky hangs around.
Sens fan here, don't see these trades happening. I don't think Anaheim will trade our pick back to us. I feel they will use that pick and there own to go up in the draft. (10th) and (27th, 28th, 29th or 30th) they might use both to jump up to maybe 5th overall or something.
Cooler heads will prevail, trade Spezza? Come on, he had a bad season for a top tier player who led lot of green talent. Did you see Spezza and Hemmer play together looked like the Heatley/Spezza days. Would corporate ego's be willing to trade away that potential? I hope not.
16 Apr 2014 12:39:22
To Nashville: Jason Spezza, Jared Cowen, Erik Condra, 2015 2nd
To Ottawa: Shea Weber
The asking price some people have in mind is insane, no team will give up as much as people think for him.
Weber karlsson pairing would be unfair to the rest of the league
Nashville will want
-1st round pick
-An elite player in their prime
-A defensive prospect
-A forward prospect
. Remember they turned down 4 first round picks from Philly to keep Weber
^If Nashville does not start winning they will need to sell Weber and Rinne. They will give them the return needed to start their core building. They should do so before Jones reaches is prime
No it will be more than that. I don't see Spezza, Cowen, Prince, 1st for Weber. They have no desire to move him at all. So for a team to try and acquire Weber, they will have to over pay. So if we want to get weber it will go something like this.
And as an Ottawa fan I'd tell Mr. Poile to go pound sand.
I think they matched phillies offer sheet to make a point that they weren't lose Weber & Suter. Looking back they probably wish they had. I think Weber is the best in the league but any package that gives this team some offense & a bright future, Nashville would be dumb not to take it.
15 Apr 2014 19:40:36
To Philly: Spezza
To Ottawa: Couturier, 1st
There needs to be a Dman comming back as well
Senators need to add something. Probably a dman that can play in the nhl and has upside. And no not Phillips
15 Apr 2014 13:32:20
TSNs Brent Wallace on whether Jason Spezza will be back with the Senators next year, "probably not. " Spezza to Toronto for Kadri, Franson and a second. But in ALL honesty can't see Ottawa Trading Spezz to a division Rival. But Kadri would be a good fit with Bobby Ryan and Keep Turris and Mac together. ANd Ottawa gets another Dman they need especially another puck moving one that can play pp and a fairly young young, But then again from a leafs stand point how healthy is Spezz Back going fwd?
The Leafs need DEFENSE. Not more forwards.
Spezza is a pretty good player, but if priority number 1 in Leaf land isn't to get a good defensemen to play with Dion, then Nonis should be fired.
Kadri not wanted in ottawa franson isn't a guy ottawa needs. If you would want spezza you would need to overpay and if you want a #1 centre you would need to offer good players
Spezza isn't even a first liner. Turris is.
To the person who said kadri not wanted in ottawa re-watch the draft the year kadri got drafted your GM tried to make a deal with Burke to get our 7th overall pick so he could draft kadri himself.
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