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12 Mar 2014 15:48:29
Trade between the Leafs and Senators that make's sense!
Leafs get: Cowen, Zibanejad
Senators get: Kadri, Gardiner, Raymond
Leafs line up!
Jvr, Bozak, Kessel
Lupul, Bolland, Zibanejad
Kulemin, Holland, Clarkson
Bodie, McClement, Ashton
Spare: Orr, D'amigo
Spare: Ranger, Granberg
Raymond is an UFA, you cannot trade him.
Who would disagree with the above statement that Raymond is an UFA?
That just shows some of the persons on this board.
10 Mar 2014 23:10:12
Briere and Bourque for picks.
Montreal Recieves: Lindholm & Fowler & 1st OTT 2014 & 1st ANA 2014
Anahiem Recieves: Subban & Emelin & MTL 2nd
Draft- Perlini & Goldobin & DeAngelo.
Resign- Eller & Markov & White & Weise
Sign- Moulson & Hemsky & Raymond.
Eller & Markov & Leblanc & 2nd 2015 for Both Schenns.
Pacioretty DD Gallagher
Moulson Galchenyuk Bournival
Raymond Plekanec Hemsky
Prust White Weise
No to all those trades, as a habs fan. none of those trades are enticing. lol luke schenn makes our d garbage.
No way Ducks give up 2 1sts when they're already giving up Lindholm & Fowler this coming from a Habs fan. try to be realistic guys?
The first one is ok but Habs need forwards more then d and Subban can bring in a #1 centre plus for big size up front. I would trade fowler and a 1st to edm for thier 1st and draft ekblad. The schens are bad and so is hemsky! Habs want young big forwards.
Change the draft picks to tuch, Ritchie and Kempis and I fully agree with all these moves
I would rather have Fowler Lindholm and the picks if I were the Ducks GM.
Subban is RFA
He might not sign an Anaheim
U get the schenns to nit play them
And then you don't put either of the schenns on your roster?
Are you blind, look at the garbage d. luke schenn is there.
10 Mar 2014 22:46:55
Nashville gets more offence, which they desperately need, and Ottawa gets more defence, which they also desperately need.
Ottawa adds bigtime!
Don't think ottawa does this mostly because they won't pay webers salary
Why would Ottawa add? Karlsson is as good, and much younger.
Ottawa has to add. a lot.
Nsh adds Jones or something.
Weber is a stunning d-men who can shot
Karlsson isn't bad but just not Nashvilles style of play
Nashville always gives the puck to weber who should bang it in the net
Even I can bang any little black thing into a net
09 Mar 2014 13:23:52
Buffalo Sabres 4 year plan started last year:
2012-2013 trade Regehr for 2 picks; trade Leopold for a pick; trade Pommenville for 2 picks and two prospects; draft large defensemen in the first round.
2013-2014 trade Vanek for 2 picks and Moulson; trade Miller and Ott for Halak, Carrier, Stewart and 2 picks; trade Halak and a pick for young goal tending prospect; trade 2 picks back to LAK for 2 prospects; trade Moulson and McCormick for a checking center and 2 picks. Because they are in last place they picked up players that have been put on waivers by other teams, (i. e. Cora Conachar, Matt D'Agostini and Zenon Konopka). A last place finish this year is not as critical as next year. Any of the top 4 players will eventually play in the NHL and contribute.
2014-2015 keep Grigorenko, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Carrier, Fasching (convince him that he can finish school at the end of his NHL career), Armia, Larsson, and Catenacci in Rochester. During the off season sign free agents Ott and Kulimen. Ott for his leadership, Kulimen to play with other Russians on the team. Only if the deals are GREAT trade Stafford, Foligno, Stewart, Myers and Ehrhoff. Bury Lieno in the minors at the end of the season only because the team will need his salary to hit the cap “floor”. Work hard but must finish in last place to have the best chance at McDavid.
2015-2016 Bring up the best young guns from Rochester. Sign free agents Marc-Andre Fleury and Patrick Kane (so he can play in his home town and lead them to a Stanley Cup). Sign other free agents to fill in the spots to make this a cup contender
Because I'm sure Kane and fleury have buffalo as their #1 destination
Kane is from Buffalo and Fleury will follow the money. That is only item you find unbelievable? Buffalo will have $20MM cap space, enough to talk ANYONE to play for them.
Players are in it for the money but also would like to stay with real contenders. Kane would stay in Chicago before going to Buffalo. And Fleury looks good with Pittsburg. Crosby and Malkin do not make him seem so bad. He would look worse on smaller teams.
This whole play for your hometown team thing gets really carried away on this forum.
do you think these guys that have been drafted by, bled for, trained with, suffered and put so much effort into succeeding with these teams, probly laid down there own roots, found friends with teammates, there own wives and kids have in the back of there head: man I wanna go play for that s***ty team in the city I lived in like 15 years ago?
Well, did you happen to listen to the post game interview last night after the Buffalo game? Well if he does not sign in two years, I will post that I was incorrect, but for now, I will let my imagination wander.
08 Mar 2014 02:40:47
Buffalo: Chris Stewart
Ottawa: 2nd and Greening
IMO, you do not have Mr. Murray's attention. Greening is no help, a little older than Stewart, but with the addition of the 2nd you think not as good. So, why make the trade, up the ante.
07 Mar 2014 11:35:02
BUFF: Callahan because they have a lot of money to burn and need leadership. Also bring back Ott as he stated he is open for talks with them.
MINNY: Vanek because everyone knows he wants to go there.
ISLES: Moulson because Snow knows he screwed up and should of kept him to play with Tavares.
TOR: Stastny because always talk about him and Leafs always need a #1 C.
OTT: Alfredsson because they know they have to do it for the fans.
No need for Statsny now. Bozak is getting it done. Bozak is not getting enough respect imo and is way underated by almost everybody.
Only way I can see Stastny coming to Toronto is if Bolland walks. He's going to be asking for a raise, so Toronto couldn't afford him anyway.
How long it takes than leafs fan realize that tyler bozak is perfect fit with jvr and Phil. Look at him this year, almost ppg player. you can't have better chemistry until you bring tavares, toews or top elite league center like this. Stastny is probably better player than Bozie but in this situation no way he can be useful than tyler.
get over Bozak thing
^Why do you think bringing in Stastny means he needs to play with JVR and Kessel. He can play with Lupul and deal Kadri/Gardiner for help on D.
Rather keep Kadri for now. he'll be cheaper than Statsny! But, if you trade Kadri, you'll probably have a player younger, and as good, or better, than Statsny anyways. so why bother signing him?
I can see Leafs moving Kadri and Gardiner actually, especially if the do go after Stastny (which I am not certain they will simply because I doubt he takes a big enough pay cut for him to make sense for Leafs) But Kadri and Gardiner for Kulikov and something makes sense, Leafs need better D (which Kulikov is. much better overall than Gardiner) Florida gets good young players, and a offensive Dman that will own their PP. Leafs get a solid 2 way Dman that can play solid minutes in their top 4 and a pick or prospect.
I personally think the Leafs would be better off with Kulikov on their D and No Kadri (not that there is anything wrong with Kadri, but at the same time he is more replaceable, we don't have a guy like Kulikov (NHL ready top 4 guy) Where as we can replace Kadri (possibly even in house, as I think Holland can perform at the same level given the everyday shot)
^yeah that's an option. In that case he will not come as first center. just center depth option but in my mind this move is not priority and I don't even know if this is improvement
Alfredsson will likely retire. If he wanted to retire in Ottawa, he would have done it last season.
I agree Alfie will be back with Ottawa for one more kick at the can, unless they sign him for one day contract so he can retire as a Sen.
Murray stated that Sabres would offer the kind of money Callahan was asking before he was even traded to the Lightning. Buffalo could use him for experience. Heck, Sabres will have a world junior allstar team after draft day.
I would rather have stastny on my first line than ballzak. bozo is okay but he's no 1st line center. any of you leaf fans recall saying desharnais is only good because of pac. then I would like to say the same applies to ballzak too, he has jvr and kessel. do any of you see the irony and see the role reversal here.
^ take a look at the #'s of the leafs top line for the past 3 years. Bozo, as you call him plays on the PP and PK too! No need to change things up there.
05 Mar 2014 18:10:30
Last ottawa trade
OTT: 2014 2nd, Shane Prince, Wiercioch
Macarthur - Turris - Ryan
Michalek - Spezza - Hemsky
Zibanejad - Hoffman - Condra
Greening - Smith - Neil
Ehrhoff - Karlsson
Methot - Wiercioch
Phillips - Ceci
Wiericoch or cowen
Hopefully Cowen along with Prince and that 3rd
Ehrhoff would be on the plane before Tim Murray hung up the phone if he were offered Cowen, Prince & 3rd.
05 Mar 2014 17:31:24
Hemsky to Ottawa for a 2014 3rd and a 2015 5th
Great value pick up for Murray/Ottawa to play with Spezza.
Hopefully Ottawa can complete Spezza's line and get Stewart from Buffalo
Too bad they lost Cory Conacher for absolutely nothing. not even a 5th rounder. Dumb.
05 Mar 2014 14:46:52
OK, I know these trades are all unbelievable but were all posted by other contributor, I just took the trades I thought were the best for the Sabres. Based on the return Murray received for Miller and Ott a Sabre fan can dream a bit:
Chris Stewart to MTL for Jarred Tinordi D & Sebastian Collberg R.
Christian Ehrhoff to TML Jake Gardiner D, Tyler Biggs R & 1st.
Mike Weber to PIT for 3rd.
Matt Moulson to LAK for Tyler Toffoli R & 4th (108).
Tallinder to OTT for Stephane the Costa.
Luke Adam to TML Carter Ashton R.
Jaroslav Halak to MIN for Darcy Kuemper G, Dany Heatley & 1st.
LMFAO, I know that NONE of these trades will happen, I just spent some time with Rob Ford and I am starting to dream!
Looooooool when did erhoff become worth a top prospect, a b+ prospect and a first loooool god no hell naw from toronto
If you are a Sabre fan all you can do is dream LOL. Stewart should get you a couple of nice picks with a prospect. But not Collbeg and Tinordi. I do not think the Leafs would give you that return for Ehrhoff but maybe for Adam. The Wild will not give you Kuemper now that they have Bryz
As a Habs fan I would love to get Stewart but I wouldn't want to give up those 2 players to get him.
Well, if you read the intro, these were all trades suggested by other contributors and I said they were unbelievable. This is a trade suggested by a Senators fan:
Ehrhoff for Jared Cowen D, Shane Prince L, Jean-Gabriel Pageau C.
I guess stating that the trades are "unbelievable" and "NONE of these trades will happen" does not stop contributors to confirm that the trades will never happen! LMFAO
Matt moulson is on the canadiens
05 Mar 2014 06:26:01
Ott: Z. Smith 2014 5th round pick
Big overpayment by Ottawa
05 Mar 2014 04:39:08
To Buffalo: Jared Cowen, Shane Prince, Pageau
To Ottawa: Ehrhoff
Buffalo could prefer prospects over picks, Ottawa gives to solid prospects and a good defenceman for Ehrhoff who's signed for a few years.
That is more than I thought Ehrhoff would return, but he has a very good cap hit and only will be paid half of that because it was front loaded. He only received $1MM each of the last 3 years. It is like Buffalo is retaining over half of his salary.
A LITTLE heavy on Ottawa's end, don't you think?
Buffalo want picks! They can trade picks away at draft for roster players if they want.
I'm the original poster, I think Ottawa will have to give up a bit too much to get Ehrhoff, but it could be worth it.
I am a Sabres fan who also thinks that seems to be a lot for Ehrhoff. If one examines the trade Jared Cowen was the 9th pick from 2009, he does not get PP time and is the second PK Dman pair, Ehrhoff would be a huge offensive upgrade at that position without spending a lot of cash. Shane Prince and Pageau were the 61st & 96th pick in 2011 draft neither have made an impact in the NHL. So Ottawa is trading a 1st who has not performed up to the teams expectations the last pick from the 2nd round and an early 4th, maybe a little too much for Ehrhoff but not really off the chart nor unreasonable. IMO Ehrhoff would return a good prospect and a high pick from another team so the trade is not that one sided.
As a sens got to disagree and I think that pages I has been an impact player at times but mostly needs to work on size and get bigger to be in the nhl more
04 Mar 2014 22:41:38
Ottawa put Conacher and Corvo on waivers, got to expect a bigger deal going to happen from the Sens standpoint
Maybe a deal involving Spezza
No its probably for Stewart he could complement Spezza pretty nice
I doubt it. he will be moved one day, but it won't be any time soon.
Spezza stays in Ottawa, for now
Why would BUFFALO trade with in their division?
Because Tim Murray knows every single one of Ottawa's prospects like the back of his hand, and has a good relationship with Bryan Murray.
04 Mar 2014 21:51:07
This is crazy. So far, Buffalo has two picks in the next two drafts and still have Stewart, Moulson, Halak, and maybe even Ehrhoff or Myers to go!
OTT: Moulson Stewart
BUF: 1st Ceci
Ottawa won't trade Cecil
They also don't have a first round pick this year
Or just trade Ville Leino.
Ottawa does not have a 1st round in 2014
No ones taking ville lieno
I don't see Ceci going anywhere
Yes but not Ceci more like Jared Cowen, Joe Corvo or Chris Philips
04 Mar 2014 19:20:03
WSH: Dustin Penner
ANA: 4th Rd Pick
DAL: WSH's 4th Rd Pick (Via ANA)
ANA: Stephane Robidas
MIN: Ilya Bryzgalov
EDM: 4th Rd Pick
EDM: Viktor Fasth
ANA: 5th Rd Pick & 3rd Rd Pick
VAN: Patrick Mullen
OTT: Jeff Costello
So far that's correct.
Surprising moves so far and could more teams make several trades from their plan B lists instead of taking a chance on the UFA rentals.
If these smaller deals keep happening then when do GM's holding high price tags on their UFA drop the asking price for say Vanek and Moulson.
I'm saying if I'm a GM and I want to take on Vanek or Moulson, I'm offering either three options.
First option: 3rd straight up
Second option: 4th with a AHLer
Third option: 5th with a prospect
These trades happened today. To the two who said unbelievable CHECK YOUR SPORTS WEBSITES.
How are there 3 unbelievables? These trades have all been completed? Is everyone in utter shock the Canucks grabbed Costello for Mullen? (sarcasm - for those at face readers)
04 Mar 2014 19:17:08
1st round picks must be involved.
Yes but not DaCosta
Yes but instead of Spezza Corvo and Conacher
04 Mar 2014 05:44:58
J. LaBarbera (salary dump)
P. Bouchard (salary dump)
Conditional pick (2nd if the make it to western finals, 3rd if bumped earlier. )
No thanks from Ottawa. big time.
Trade really does not help either team. Chicago does not need Spezza, and they would not want to give up Saad and Leddy.
Parts do not fit.
Absolutely not form ottawa
Spezza and prince for tatar jurco frk and a 1st
04 Mar 2014 05:37:15
My trade deadline prediction are:
-Moulson to the Kings.
-G. Snow will screw over the Islanders as they make the move to Brooklyn next season. Vanek leaves in the offseason. Because no team will give up a 1st, top prospect, and a young NHL player for Vanek like the similiar trade he made to get him.
-Halak will go to the Wild
-Kesler stays in Vancover and rots like Luengo. But could see Philadelphia gutting their team for him.
- Ward stays put creating a bigger headache in Carolina at the goaltendering position.
-Florida GM will keep Upshall, Boyes, and Thomas and may not even trade anyone but minor leaguers.
-Philips stays put in Ottawa
-Tillander will be the only positional player moved by Buffalo and probably to Boston he'll go to.
-Boston is hurting on the blueline should be interesting if they will acquire a defender.
-Marty will stay a Devil or look for a team like Chicago to get him who needs more playoff exiperence at the back up role.
I can see your predictions except Tallinder, some other team will offer more than Boston for him.
I think your exactly right.
Well Marty is already going to the wild so halak wont
04 Mar 2014 04:32:50
I wish George Mcphee would do something:
WAS: Erat and a 3rd
FLA: Brad Boyes
(gives the caps secondary scoring)
WAS: Neuvirth 2nd
NYI: A. MacDonald
WAS: Erskine and 3rd (2015) and 4th
(If Phillips doesn't sign with the sens)
WAS: Galiev and 2nd (2015)
(Is built for the playoffs)
Which trades seem fair? Which trades need tweaking? please let me know
You may have to give a bit more for Boyes since there should be a bidding war for him. Cheap on the cap and depth skill for goal is what all playoff teams will want. Especially since Erat is a salary dump and requested a trade
So a twice released forward (Boyes) is worth more than a nearly comparable player plus a pick, but Stewart for Galiev and a 2nd is just right? We will see what happens but IMO Boyes will go for a 2nd at best.
Who cares if he was twice released?
Does not matter what happened to Boyes in the past. He is producing on a bad team and that is what matters.
04 Mar 2014 03:22:50
To Edmonton: Spezza, Conacher, 2015 2nd
To Ottawa: Eberle, 2014 1st
Edmonton would never do that
04 Mar 2014 03:21:08
To Ottawa: Stewart
To Buffalo: Michalek, Prince
04 Mar 2014 03:20:10
To Ottawa: Bieksa
To Vancouver: Spezza
04 Mar 2014 01:22:18
Toronto- Phillips, Weircoch Ceci
Ottawa- Kadri D'amigo Brennan
Leaf fans won't agree but Ceci is probably the best part in there and Ottawa doesn't need a centre
3 roster players for a 2nd line centre and 2 ahl players? seems a little one sided
It's actually a pretty good post despite Ottawa and Toronto being rivals
Ottawa says no, maybe these three for Reilly.
He's actually a third line center
04 Mar 2014 00:26:56
Win: Spezza, Cowen, Prince & Anderson and a 3rd
Ott: Kane & Bogosian
Kane & Bogosian for spezza and cowen would not even be accepted. I understand your a bit bias but dude at least try
The jets would have to add
Jets Sens a 2nd in 2015 to beef up the deal
Jets add Ladd, Ottawa adds a second and takes out Prince, then we'll talk.
No? Why would Winnipeg give a future 40 goal scorer in kane, an Unreal shutdown Dman in bogo and our captain in Ladd for that?
Every team thinks their young stars are potential 40 gosl scorers. How about you research the number of players to score 40 goals in a season the last 10 years.
^Exactly, a spezza USA. Proven player he is having a bad year but everyone already knows what he is capable of. Cowen is a future top-2 d-man, Winnipeg gets a pick and two quality players, a great prospect and gives similar quality.
Wow, everyone in here is off their rockers. We're not giving up Ladd, Bog, & Kane. You're crazy. Anderson plays well, I mean, he had a great game against Pittsburgh, but Pav and Montoya have been doing amazing things for us lately. We're not going to chip away at our pile of greats to take a bunch of maybes and Spezza.
03 Mar 2014 23:54:26
Ottawa: Callahan and Del zotto
New york: Spezza
Right, because MDZ is still a Ranger.
Del Zotto already traded pylon
Reports are Callahan signing a deal soon with the rags.
Is del zotto in Nashville or something?
Poor trade for Ottawa for a vast variety of reasons.
Where have you been for the last month and a half?
Check it out MDZ is a predator
Take out callahan and this trade is a done deal.
People people do your research before summitting rumors. HAHA
03 Mar 2014 22:49:04
TB: Spezza, Prince, Cowen
Ott: Hedman & Drouin
Great value and fills needs for both teams going forward.
Hedman is starting to show why he was drafted #2 in 09, no way the Lightning do it. Besides they don't really need Spezza he'll end up on the 2nd line once Stamkos is back.
Ottawa sweetens deal with a 2nd in 2014
I would say Tampa gives up too much and don't fill any needs just create more holes. They need top 4 Dman now, not a depth D that could become one and Hedman only makes that need worse. They have Stamkos Filpulla Johnson and Thompson which are each solid centers for their respective lines so don't need Spezza. They need skilled wingers, like Drouin, so I can't see him being moved.
Ha not at all. No. Tampa denies this so fast
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