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02 Aug 2015 23:55:18
Rob scuderi and seventh round pick 2016 to ottawa for colin greening

Chris kunitz to anaheim for dmen prospect keaton thompson, 2016 and 2017 third round pick

Pens lineup

Perron crosby hornqvist
Plotnikov malkin kessel
Dupuis bonino bennett
Greening fehr sundqvist

Maatta letang
Dumoulin cole
Pouliot lovejoy

Fleury
Zatkoff

31 Jul 2015 20:56:13
Pens trade: beau Bennett, rob scuderi, 2016 3rd
Send trade Cody Ceci, Chris Neil,2016 6th

Pens get a young dman for a young forward( both going to be rfas when contract expires, sens get veteran dman, pens get vetran winger and a scraper who can take downies spot, sens upgrade draft picks, pens dump some salary

Fair value? If not who adds

31 Jul 2015 22:32:43
Ottawa would not give up Ceci for a cap dump And an inconsistent injury prone player

29 Jul 2015 19:04:49
Washington:
LW/C - Marcus Johansson RFA

Ottawa:
LW - Milan Michalek $4.0 (Retain $1.2)
C - Zack Smith $1.89
3rd Round Draft Pick 2017

29 Jul 2015 20:29:42
Why wouldn't they just keep Johansson?

30 Jul 2015 00:02:40
Because like so many players in the NHL he thinks that he's worth a hell of a lot of money.

30 Jul 2015 15:50:24
He's going to get signed for less than there taking back in this trade

25 Jul 2015 05:53:29
Just some trades I thought of while travelling today.

Stars trade Valeri Nichuskin, Jamie Oleksiak & 2016 4th

Predators trade Seth Jones & Gabriel Bourque

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Leafs trade JVR

Capitals trade Marcus Johansson, Jakub Vrana & 2016 2nd

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Senators trade Jared Cowen, Gabriel Pageau & 2016 2nd

Wild trade Jared Spurgeron , Jason Zucker & 2016 4th


Thoughts?

25 Jul 2015 06:21:11
Interesting and actually thought out proposals! Breath of fresh air. Pretty good, I think Minny would say no thanks maybe tho. Just from Minny prospective I think they could value Spurgeonore than Cowen and Zucker more than JGP, and the 2nd for a 4th might not make up for that switch.

25 Jul 2015 07:21:13
I think MIN says no, caps say no. Both are close, tho. First one is pretty good, addresses both teams needs, like it.

25 Jul 2015 07:45:52
Zucker actually built up his stock a lot this year same could be said for Spurgeon

25 Jul 2015 15:08:35
For my sens/wild trade I orginally had it as a 1st round pick. Would that be better switching the 2nd to a 1st?

25 Jul 2015 16:31:23
I'd say no from leafs but I don't know who Jakub Vrana is.

25 Jul 2015 18:11:04
Maaaybe if it was at the draft and a 8-15 pick and they had there eye on a good d.

25 Jul 2015 22:01:04
Also Ottawa is weak on the left d and Spurgeon is a right I believe…

26 Jul 2015 05:46:44
The difference between Johansson and JVR is not a Top prospect and a 2nd round pick. Caps decline easily.

24 Jul 2015 21:38:36
OTT: Cody Ceci, Milan Michalek (500k retained)
VAN: Bo Horvat, 2nd rd 2016

25 Jul 2015 04:44:45
Vancouver's future #2 or maybe even #1 centre plus a 2nd rounder to Ottawa for a potential top 4 d-man and a washed up sniper?

Doesn't make sense to me, but hey I'm a Kings fan and if the Canucks wanna let Jim Benning make more stupid trades just like Mike Gillis did then let em go right ahead. Makes the Pacific division a little easier

25 Jul 2015 05:40:40
I'd give up on hockey if the Canucks did that.

24 Jul 2015 18:56:14
OTT: Patrick Wiercoch, 2nd rd 2016
TBL: Matt Carle

24 Jul 2015 20:37:53
This could actually help both teams a lot

24 Jul 2015 21:33:58
No way Sens do that. Carle is waaaay overpaid

24 Jul 2015 23:05:33
Yes from TB, because Wiercioch can be let go next year and we get a pick.

25 Jul 2015 02:56:25
wiercoch is wayyy better then carle

25 Jul 2015 07:23:14
He isn't way better, Carle is better. But considering Carle's term, the 2nd is prolly too much, yeah.

25 Jul 2015 14:22:56
noo weircoch's season last year was bad but when he started to play and not be scratched weircoch also made team Canada at the champs not carle and the second pays for carle alone

23 Jul 2015 22:16:56
OTT: Matt Pumpel, Craig Anderson, 1st rd 2017
NJD: Corey Schneider

23 Jul 2015 23:33:17
No from NJD

24 Jul 2015 00:18:39
no from new jersey, Anderson would probably resign else where once his contract was done, and pumpel and a 1st doesn't get them enough. Scheider is one of the only good pieces the devils have.

24 Jul 2015 00:46:39
Well Matt pumpel really is that generational talent so Devils would be dumb not to do it

24 Jul 2015 01:00:17
NJ passes

24 Jul 2015 01:13:25
I don't think Ottawa needs to trade for Cory Schneider, especially if it is costing them a first

24 Jul 2015 07:41:46
@Oilers_11

I'm dying out of laughter.

Who DOESN'T want Matt?

24 Jul 2015 14:49:06
Exactly! McOilers hahah

24 Jul 2015 15:43:35
@Oilers_11

I just love how people don't get sarcasm and just put ''disagree'' :)

like fr bro

23 Jul 2015 22:02:26
OTT: Matt Pumpel, Matt O'Connor, 2nd
EDM: Nail Yakupov

23 Jul 2015 22:50:58
ottowas not trading matt o connor they signed him recently and puempal isno were near yaks value

23 Jul 2015 23:33:48
No from Edmonton.

24 Jul 2015 00:19:31
ottawa just got O'Connor they wouldn't move him it would look horrible on their organization. so easy no from ottawa just for the reason of saving face.

24 Jul 2015 00:22:07
Edmonton says no

24 Jul 2015 19:32:30
This is why Edmonton says no:

Puempel has not had any success in the NHL. He is an AHL-type of player (imo).
O'Connor is a valuable play,prospect but we have no idea how he will turn out.

25 Jul 2015 14:28:32
puempel has only played 10 games idk even like this trade b/c yak is wasted talent but your reasoning is dumb

22 Jul 2015 13:31:32
OTT: Patrick Wiercoch, 1st rd 2017, 2nd 2016
WSH: John Carlson

What do you think?

22 Jul 2015 17:22:26
why would WSSH ven consider this? they want to win, not rebuild.

22 Jul 2015 18:00:59
Washington's best young defender (who is very underrated) isn't getting traded

22 Jul 2015 18:08:56
Carlsson is very underated that isn't enough

22 Jul 2015 23:59:35
Well that's horrible for Wsh. And a first in 2017, can't give up those 2016s OTT might be bad next year so you don't want the pick (literally the only thing of any value) to be too valuable.

23 Jul 2015 00:41:53
That might be enough but like Shankar said, this makes no sense for them at all as they are in a definite win now state. No from Caps.

23 Jul 2015 03:19:10
very easy no form washington

22 Jul 2015 02:48:36
OTT: Wiercoch, Pumpel, 2 rd 2016, 3rd rd 2017
NSH: Roman Josi

I know josi is probably untouchable but based on valie what do you think?

22 Jul 2015 05:05:25
not even close. josi has become a legit #1 and actually played more than weber in most playoff games before weber got hurt.

22 Jul 2015 05:10:28
If you want Josi you're giving up Stone/Hoffman, Ceci & a 1st

22 Jul 2015 08:38:19
Yea, Not even close.

22 Jul 2015 13:15:39
Wtf, I just re-read this post. that was embarrassing. I understand what you guys are saying

21 Jul 2015 20:42:51
Sens trade: bobby Ryan, 2016 2nd
Jets trade: Brian little.

Brian little is just about as good as bobby Ryan, and is highly undervalued. He also comes about 3 million dollars cheaper so that's why I have Ottawa throwing in a second. Just a thought, probably not going to happen, but would be cool I think

21 Jul 2015 21:38:10
Bobby Ryan has more value alone, could get more

21 Jul 2015 23:31:46
Wow, and you even through in a pick?

22 Jul 2015 00:31:11
Doesn't really make sense for Ottawa. Sens already have Turris, Zibanejad and Lazar down the middle. Little would be a nice addition to any team but that moves zibby down and he deserves 2nd line time.

21 Jul 2015 21:12:18
Send might not have anyone quite as good as little but there deep in centres aren't they?

22 Jul 2015 00:43:30
Ottawa gave Ryan a long term deal and lots of money because that's how much they value him. Why would they turn around and trade him and anther valuable piece in a 2nd round pick for a guy who you claim is equally as good Doesn't make sense.

22 Jul 2015 01:16:43
OTT is solid at with zibanejad and turris, no need for little. WPG also is somewhat of a budget team, so why double the salary for no upgrade?

22 Jul 2015 02:24:59
No from both teams sens don't need another center

22 Jul 2015 02:53:36
I think you meant to put the 2nd with little and not Ryan. Anyways, ottawa is fine down the middle what they need is better LHD

22 Jul 2015 03:44:52
sens are one of the cheapest teams in the league, they don't need to shed salary, this deal makes no sense for them.

There is such thing called a cap floor.

22 Jul 2015 05:08:47
@stickboi Melnyk is by far the cheapest owner in the league, he loves to drop an expense whenever possible.

22 Jul 2015 18:33:31
Ok, I'll concede that the deal isn't going to happen, but to everybody saying bobby Ryan is leagues ahead of Brian little, Brian little only got 2 points less than bobby Ryan, and he actually got 6 more goals. Pretty good considering he is almost 3 million dollars cheaper

23 Jul 2015 03:23:14
i watched a lot of both players and I don't know what people see when they say ryan is better than little. Ottawa has depth at center so the trade doesn't make much sense but little means more to winnipeg then ryan does to ottawa. Both teams say no because it doesn't address their needs.

15 Jul 2015 22:19:05
Thoughts.

OTT: Cowen, 1st rd pick, 4 rd pick
BUF: Tyler Ennis

?

16 Jul 2015 02:12:40
too much for ennis.

16 Jul 2015 02:54:45
Tyler Ennis is not worh a 1st rd pick or Jared Cowen (imo)

Ennis can put up points but constantly gives the puck away.
He is also very small in size and weight. Ottawa doesn't want to do this.
Ennis can barely win face-offs.

16 Jul 2015 10:17:45
I was thinking that he could either play in Bobby ryans spot or clarke McArthur's spot. not as a center man

11 Jul 2015 23:09:53
Whats the value of jordan eberle compared to bobby ryan? As a sens fan who would like to trade bobby ryan for eberle. What would that look like i.e:

OTT: Ryan, 3 rd , 5rd
EDM: eberle
??
Thanks

12 Jul 2015 17:50:06
Ryan is overrated and declining in skill

07 Jul 2015 18:36:26
OTT: Jared Cowen, 2016 2nd, buddy Robinson
EDM: Nail Yakupov

OTT: Milan Michalek
ARI: 2016 4th, 2017 5th

Sign FA: Cody Franson 3yr 10.5m (3.5/yr)
Sign Mike Hoffman 2yr 7.5m (4m then 3.5m)
Sign Alex Chiasson 2yr 2.8m (1.4m each)

OTT LINE UP
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Hoffman - Zibanejad - Ryan
Yakupov - Pageau - Lazar
Puempel - Smith - Chiasson

Methot - Karlsson
Franson - Ceci
Wiercioch - Borowiecki

Anderson, Hammond

07 Jul 2015 19:47:41
Yakupov will cost way more than that

07 Jul 2015 19:47:47
Oilers turn that down in a second. Don't need Cowen at all and his value is so low right now anyways. Not even close.
They have Nurse, Klefbom, Sekera, Shultz, Reinhart, Fayne, Gryba, Ference, Nikitin. No room at all for Cowan. He isn't the "answer" they now need in D.

07 Jul 2015 20:05:12
why would edm want cowan I can see them counter offer for ceci but not cowan

07 Jul 2015 20:21:43
In which world does Franson sign for 3.5m

07 Jul 2015 22:24:39
I don't see why they would trade Yakupov.
I wanna see Cowen in Edmonton but Yak still is worth more than that.
Plus, the lines for the wingers are set. Yakupov switching from 2nd to 3rd, from 3rd to 2nd.

07 Jul 2015 23:09:49
Fransons not signing for 3.5 million per year.

08 Jul 2015 00:26:48
Sens are planning on replacing condra with nick paul on the thrid line so it unlikely that they make that trade but I wouldn't mind the franson signing

06 Jul 2015 15:45:34
Tor: Greening and a 2016 2nd round pick

Ott: Bozak and a 2017 7th round pick

Ottawa still searching for one more top six guy whose affordable. Leafs pick up a bad contract and get a draft pick as there real reward.

06 Jul 2015 16:18:29
Where does Bozak exactly fit in on the senators? Turris, Zibinajed, Lazar, Smith. Value is fair just can't see Sens adding Bozak at this point.

05 Jul 2015 16:10:50
Ottawa trades F Mike Hoffman D Patrick Wiercoich 2016 2nd round pick

Chicago for Nick Hjalmersson Kris Versteeg


Versteeg Zibanejad Ryan
Mcarthur Turris Stone
Puempel Pageau Lazar
Greening. smith Neil

Methot EK
Ceci. Haljmerson
Boro Cowen

Anderson
Hammond

05 Jul 2015 16:36:15
This is so stupid and doesn't help Chicago at all

05 Jul 2015 17:18:56
Don't think Chi has any interest in moving Hjamlersson. Very solid defensive Defencemen.

06 Jul 2015 01:23:26
holy is this bad

06 Jul 2015 01:26:20
Both team say no I'd say.

06 Jul 2015 02:08:59
Maybe change the 2nd to 1st and weircoch for ceci

06 Jul 2015 02:09:45
Doesn't Help the sens ether the sens are looking for a top 4 TWD not DFD and patty wiercoich because he is a 6"5 good puck moving defenceman and had bad numbers last year because he was scratched a lot which is bad for him

09 Jul 2015 15:05:02
I'm a Sens fan and I laughed at this .

04 Jul 2015 17:50:51
Leafs Acquire:

Colin Greening

3rd Round Pick 2016 (Conditional) *Condition: If Lupul plays less than 60 games in the 2015/2016 season this pick becomes a 4th in 2016

6th Round Pick 2016

Senators Acquire:
Joffery Lupul (10% Salary Retained)

Breakdown:

Small move, Senators trade away a useless piece in greening, and get a scoring, but injury prone player. If Lupul can stay healthy (big IF) the senators have probably won this deal.

Leafs acquire two picks, and with Mark Hunter, you never know what he could make with them. They take back greening, and he could become somehwat of a fourth line grinder for the leafs.

Thoughts?

05 Jul 2015 08:52:34
I'd save my last salary retention left for trading Phaneug if I'm the Leafs.

05 Jul 2015 15:45:07
^ Agreed Chirp - Lupul has 2 years left.

05 Jul 2015 18:18:06
Chirp? Wtf?! :D

06 Jul 2015 03:03:27
Lol - in my defense Drais, you've been treading the line to the dark side in recent weeks

Apologies

06 Jul 2015 07:35:50
Haha.

They should really save that for Phaneuf, tho. Lupul has two years left as you said, and these 2 years will be rebuilding years anyways where they don't need the cap space. But they will need it in the latter half of Phaneufs deal. And retaining 1-2m makes it a lot easier to deal him (or better: gives you a far better return)

01 Jul 2015 20:29:00
Ottawa: Phillips
Buffalo: 4th round pick

Ottawa: Michalek
Arizona: 3rd, 5th

Ottawa: Neil
Florida: 5th

Toronto: phaneuf, 2017 2nd
Dallas: sceviour, nemeth, 1st

Buffalo: 2017 3rd round pick
Calgary: ortio

Chicago: Bickel, 3rd
Dallas: roussell

Chicago: sharp, McNeil
Washington: orlov, carrick, 2nd

02 Jul 2015 01:55:55
give it up ottawa no wants to come there

02 Jul 2015 03:49:29
why the hell would Calgary trade Ortio for a 3rd??LOL

02 Jul 2015 09:27:17
Give it up! Ottawa is better than Toronto!!!

02 Jul 2015 20:33:39
hahahaha!! Ottawa signs Stortini and who? O'Dell real household names there eh! LOL

03 Jul 2015 00:46:49
My money's on Ottawa winning the Battle of Ontario this year. TO comes out of the gate hard and fades from the picture by Christmas.

03 Jul 2015 01:54:30
Ottawa had/has no plans to sign anyone for the NHL roster. Kostka, and O'Dell are Depth/AHL players, and Stortini is strictly a minor league player and nothing more. you can't say the sens made bad signings or deals because 1. the don't want to add to there current roster. 2. Their youth is what are going to take up the roster spots (Which is better than signing any player to a long term 4+ million contract. 3. finally you can't talk trash about the sens signings because you are a leafs fan and your team makes the worst signings in the NHL.

03 Jul 2015 07:19:51
Toronto, Arizona, Carolina And hopefully the Babcock facter alone steals some games for them getting them 3rd last and not getting Mathews. Ottawa is way better than Toronto as the moment.

26 Jun 2015 21:00:20
Ottawa trades D Jared Cowen F Mike Hoffman 2015 1st (21) 2nd (48)

Colorado Ryan Oreilly

26 Jun 2015 21:27:44
Drop one of the picks, 21st IMO

26 Jun 2015 20:56:52
Confirmed trade

OTT: Lehner, Legwand
BUF: 21st

Maybe use one of our 1st rounders to snag a top 6 forward or a top 4 D and I believe that this team is ready to compete

possible targets: ROR, Sharp, Martin, Hjalmarsson etc.

OTT: 21st, DALs 2nd, Jared Cowen
CHI: Patrick Sharp

Line up
MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Sharp - Zibby - Ryan
Hoffman - Lazar - Chiasson
Prince - Pageau - Condra

Methot - Karlsson
Wiercioch - Ceci
Boro - Wideman

Andy, Hammy

Neil, Phillips healthy scratches

26 Jun 2015 21:29:24
Lineup looks great! Sens just seem a little weak on LHD

 
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