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03 Dec 2016 04:32:42
OTT: 2016 4th, buddy Robinson
STL: Nail Yakupov.

02 Dec 2016 20:14:31
OTT: Duclair
ARZ: Lazar and draft pick.

02 Dec 2016 21:20:44
No from the Yotes.

03 Dec 2016 00:29:22
No from both teams.

03 Dec 2016 04:33:18
I'd take that and RUN if I were Ottawa.

02 Dec 2016 18:22:02
OTT: Duchene
COL: MacArthur, Chabot, 2nd 2018

Duchene - Turris - Ryan
Hoffman - Brassard - Stone
Dzingel - Smith - Pageau
Pyatt - Lazar - Neil.

02 Dec 2016 19:02:07
MacArthur? no

maybe add Stone or Hoffman or Ryan.

02 Dec 2016 19:09:45
Boris actually kinda nailed it.

02 Dec 2016 19:25:31
RE: kinda nailed it.

oh, its been nailed, bro.

02 Dec 2016 20:12:57
Ryan instead of MacArthur.

02 Dec 2016 01:48:19
OTT: Ceci, Lazar, Chlapik, 3rd
ARI: Stone, Duclair

i doubt ARI does it but i don't see them contending anytime soon.

- Ari gets a young Center who's dominating the Q.
- Another young center who can't find his scoring touch in Ottawa, but he is only 20
- and a Puck Moving D in Ceci

- Ott gets a better and more solid D in Stone
- And a good replacement for Bobby Ryan who is injured.

29 Nov 2016 02:11:26
OTT: Lazar, Wideman
CHI: TVR, 3rd.

26 Nov 2016 19:05:06
Calgary: Dougie Hamilton, Michael Frolik
Ottawa: Mike Hoffman, Cody Ceci

27 Nov 2016 00:20:15
Big no from Ottawa.

27 Nov 2016 04:28:55
Hamilton>Cici
But
Hoffman>>>Frolik
Easy no from Ottawa. They have a solid D now without Hamilton no need to give up one of their top forwards.

24 Nov 2016 14:07:25
OTT: Turris, Ceci
CBJ: Werenski, Foligno

I know this wouldn't happen from wither side. but i'm curious to see their values.

24 Nov 2016 14:28:57
Werenski is going nowhere.

24 Nov 2016 14:33:35
Ez no from CBJ, werenskis been one of CBJs best players and he's young.

24 Nov 2016 17:02:25
from both sides? Ottawa takes it and runs haha.

24 Nov 2016 17:24:43
Maybe Ottawa adds chabot.

25 Nov 2016 00:02:54
Ottawa adds Karlswoon.

25 Nov 2016 04:20:14
No from Columbus, they're scoring enough goals

24 Nov 2016 08:17:18
OTT: Bobby Ryan
PHI: Wayne Simmonds

Practically the same age, production numbers are close to equal. Plus PHI would love to have a hometown player and OTT could use some of Simmonds toughness AKA Boucher's garbage goal player.

Hoffman - Brassard - Stone
Dzingle - Turris - Simmonds
Smith - Pageau - Pyatt
Kelly - Lazar - Neil/ McCormick.

24 Nov 2016 08:47:08
i would take that and run for my life.

24 Nov 2016 12:42:02
I feel like Simmonds brings more to the table. Ryan has offensive talents but rarely actually uses them. When he does there are highlight reel goals but it's pretty rare now.

24 Nov 2016 12:57:41
Simmonds over Ryan all day.

24 Nov 2016 15:56:09
Yeah I agree, OTT would probably need to add a prospect or a pick.

24 Nov 2016 17:35:08
Ottawa adds, however a change of scenery for Ryan might be good for his career.

24 Nov 2016 00:52:52
Ott: Read, MacDonald, Sanheim, 3rd

Phi: Ryan, Wideman, Hammond.

24 Nov 2016 02:30:29
Ottawa loses

24 Nov 2016 02:30:44
Ryan is the big piece in here

24 Nov 2016 02:42:02
In what world would philly do that.

24 Nov 2016 05:56:16
In what world would ottawa do that.

24 Nov 2016 06:05:08
Why wouldn't philly do that?

24 Nov 2016 08:18:10
Ryan for Simmonds.

24 Nov 2016 12:44:26
The only respectable piece coming from philly is sanheim.

No from Ottawa imo, I like Chabot more than Sanheim.

23 Nov 2016 14:59:13
OTT: Lazar, 2rd
WSH: Wilson, 5th

Not really sure how much the caps value wilson, but he seems like a great gritty player and would fit well on the Sens third line. Probably even crawl above Ryan in the depth chart maybe.

Im sure Pierre Dorion wouldn't do it cause he loves overvaluing his players.

Hoffman - Brassard - Stone
Dzingel - Turris - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Wilson
Mccormick - Kelly - Neil.

23 nov 2016 18:30:23
never trading our 2rd pick. not eve for mcdavid!

23 Nov 2016 18:56:55
Personally, I wouldn't trade a second for Wilson. He's a third line guy as you said. If the sens are packaging Lazar with a pick you'd hope they'd get someone who can actually provide offense.

24 Nov 2016 00:31:59
meant to say 3rd. that was some gentle comedy there Titties. :/.

24 Nov 2016 06:26:23
Rather have lazar.

22 Nov 2016 15:35:56
EDM: Eberle, RNH, Reinhart
OTT: Ryan, Ceci, Pageau.

22 Nov 2016 16:59:54
Really? Please. Not even close.

Ryan's long term salary without minimum 50% - 60% retention can't see it happening. RNH without Karlson coming back. Sorry no dice.

Try this one instead.

RNH, Slepyshev, Reinhart for Karlson, Turris, 2nd rounder + the big center attained in the draft last year that Ottawa moved up to get.

22 Nov 2016 17:37:00
Ottawa adds a little.

22 Nov 2016 18:09:20
As a sens fan I would take that and run and never turn around , Edmonton gets hosed here

22 Nov 2016 19:37:36
fairttradeforall is k99 all over again.

22 Nov 2016 19:38:44
Fairtradefor all is another coming of k99.

22 Nov 2016 19:44:36
how does EDM get hosed? Ryan replaces Eberle, Ceci is a #4 D plus Pageau would be a solid 3rd line C, Nugent Hopkins would be OTT 3rd line C behind Turris and Brassard, Eberle would be 1st or 2nd line RW, I think EDM wins by a little bit because OTT loses Ceci, they don't really have a replacement for him.

22 Nov 2016 20:01:44
@JZ_DAL, you're totally right. As a sens fan I'd say Ottawa might still have to add a little bit more, probably a draft pick. That being said I don't think Ottawa would do this trade because it messes up the entire line up. On the blue line it would set Ottawa back severely, even more so than before the acquisition of Phaneuf.

22 Nov 2016 20:13:25
FairTrade are you serious? No one on Edmonton would come close to getting Karlsson (except McDavid but let's not go there) .

You have to be off your rocker to think that your trade is actually close to fair.

Turris >= RNH
Slepyshev = 2nd
Karlsson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reinhart
And you want Brown? were you dropped.

22 Nov 2016 20:41:35
fair trade for all 😂.

22 Nov 2016 21:00:17
K99 i think you got to change your name again.

22 Nov 2016 23:09:24
Dear Senators fans. Please. You can't seriously think this is a fair deal for both teams?
The trade counter proposal was a joke that was totally biased in the Oilers favor just like the original proposal was totally biased towards the Senators. Both were jokes. (I hope.? )

If you're serious. Then you need to re-examine the facts. Bobby Ryan's contract is way too much money for way too long of a duration. Eberle's contract is less money for only a couple more years. Proposing taking on Ryan's salary for the duration of the contract he has left is franchise suicide. Eberle is probably a better player than Ryan to begin with anyways. Sorry Sens fans, your GM made the mistake on Ryan and will have to live with it or buy him out, Oilers will have cap issues of their own soon enough to deal with without having to figure out how to afford an overpaid underachiever like Ryan. Realistically the only way I see him moving out of Ottawa is if there's heavy salary retention.

RNH was a first overall pick, and is a valuable contributing member of the first place Oilers team who does not need to make any radical changes at this time. To think that he and a #4/ 5 average Dman like Ceci who the Oilers have 3 of coming up in the minors already could be exchanged for each other is beyond ridiculous.

No fair trades for anyone proposed here.

23 Nov 2016 00:26:51
Anytime you see eberle, nuge or pouliot being compared to top players in the world you know it's k99 lol.

23 Nov 2016 00:58:46
I forgot about k99, welcome back.

23 Nov 2016 01:22:14
Who exactly are in the minors comparable to Ceci?

23 Nov 2016 01:38:41
oh my god we're all sens fans. karlsson turris and hoffman are gods, right fair trade?

NO.

WE HAVE BASIC KNOWLEDGE

RNH is a former first overall pick, yes, but he's a 5o point guy. Karlsson is an 80 point dman. Nuff said.

your points are invalid so yeah. whatever.

23 Nov 2016 02:42:35
karlsson is only arguably dman in league
How would trade be fair? Yikes

23 Nov 2016 15:47:21
If you measure a players worth to the team by points alone, then that's where the problem lies. It shows that you don't watch the player play to assess his true ability. In Edmonton RNH's role has changed with the addition of Leon and McD. He is put into a less offensive role but equally important towards a TEAM'S success so point totals cited are a moo point in total assessment value of the player on a team.

Sorry Eastern conference fans who don't watch West games. RNH's value to the team is a lot more than just his points total. Multi talented team player that can play any role ( cept for physical intimidator. Not that he wouldn't do it if asked because that's the unselfish team player he is ) and it will take a severe overpayment to get him out of Edmonton especially since the team is enjoying success now.

As a fan of both Canadian teams, I think we can knock this silly trade on the head and move on as I do not see a single player on the Ottawa roster that would be an upgrade to the current Oilers roster with the exception of Karlson and as a stretch Hoffman or Turris as a 4th liner. Sorry guys. No fair trades seem to exist between these 2 teams to help each other out equally.

But please do continue to stomp those obnoxious Leafs each and every game as most of Western Canada including myself thoroughly enjoys it and cheers hard when you pummel them.
Go Sens. :)

23 Nov 2016 16:37:43
Still curious to know who in the minors is comparable to Ceci? And Hoffman would be Oils top line left wing.

21 Nov 2016 23:56:12
EDM: Reinhart
OTT: Lazar.

22 Nov 2016 04:05:15
Oils need to add a non-total-bust prospect, or maybe RNH or Nurse.

22 Nov 2016 04:14:56
Lazar hasn't done much himself.

22 Nov 2016 17:01:25
Pretty equal trade.
Not feasible though as the Oilers have such vast depth at forward and thin Defense. Don't see them trading a cusp Dman for a forward.

22 Nov 2016 20:55:15
Lazar has done a a hellva lot more than reinhart he's proved he can play in the nhl. he's good defensively but was sent down because got mono and needed to get back into tip top shape plus maybe give him more confidence offensively. he's a young soild 3rd line player but please tell me why reunhart a player that couldn't crack one of the weakest blueline is worth lazar. Oh and in the oilers training camp he was sent down when they still had 8 or 9 d left in camp sorry to say he's a bust.

22 Nov 2016 21:25:59
Reinhart looked way too slow in training camp so I'm not totally disagreeing but the Oil blue line isn't weak.

22 Nov 2016 22:26:38
Yes your right this year they look a lot better but he couldn't make the cut last year when it wasnt so good and didn't improve so this year so the writings on the wall.

22 Nov 2016 23:38:38
Sens101
Actually he did improve. He showed in training camp this year for the first time a bit of offensive ability. He's only 22. Gryba and Davidson are much older. Year or 2 in the minors and he will be a real NHL dman. Patience is required though as dmen take a little longer to develop. No he won't be Subban or Webber, but an adequate shut down 3rd pair Dman for sure.

23 Nov 2016 01:26:20
I actually agree k99 he does have offensive ability. And I think he showed that last season in his call up. There's only one thing keeping him from being in the NHL and that's his speed. Needs to put in some work and I think he can be an NHL D.

21 Nov 2016 18:53:02
Islanders trade
Halak
2018 4th round pick

Ottawa trades
Hammond
Francis perron
Nick paul.

21 Nov 2016 19:37:27
Makes absolutely zero sense for the sens.

22 Nov 2016 00:25:32
Garbage for Orrawa.

22 Nov 2016 04:05:49
trade Halak to Leafs for Martin.

22 Nov 2016 21:14:25
Thats just bad.

21 Nov 2016 18:37:07
Bruins/ Senators

Krejci Morrow for Phaneuf

Helps bruins on defense.

21 Nov 2016 18:53:42
Just no.

21 Nov 2016 19:38:24
Ottawa would be laughing all the way to the bank on this one. No way Bruins even consider this for a millisecond.

21 Nov 2016 19:41:20
Krejci HAHAHA good luck with that bud.

21 Nov 2016 23:58:19
Why would the sens want an injury prone Krejci?

22 Nov 2016 21:16:14
Id take it than trade him for a better defenseman.

18 Nov 2016 21:04:27
Calgary: Dougie Hamilton, Michael Frolik
Ottawa: Mark Hoffman, Cody Ceci

Calgary: Dougie Hamilton
Toronto: James Van Riemsdyk.

18 Nov 2016 21:15:13
Why does Calgary want JVR? They already have Gaudreau and Tkachuk on the rise. Also Bennett has the ability to play LW. They have no need for him.

18 Nov 2016 21:29:53
Just value wise

18 Nov 2016 23:25:03
Xcing
Seems very obvious that Calgary needs to improve it's scoring. Little J is out, Bennett is a 3rd liner and Calgary needs to start assembling a real second scoring line if they wish to compete for a playoff spot sometime in the next 3 years. One trick pony teams that have 1 scoring line just don't get to the playoffs and if they do it's a quick exit.
That's why.

19 Nov 2016 00:09:52
Ok so you are talking in the next 3 year? Doubt Johnny Will be injured all three years. Bennet the is still growing and definately be a second line center. When healthy their top 6 is:
Johnny - Monny - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
4/ 6 are under 25. Give them a year and that is a very dangerous top 6. That's not even taking into account future trades and FA. Why Trade Hamilton for a LW (Have someone play on their off wing) when you already have enough when you can get a RW (he can play on his natural wing) . Calgary will nit be a playoff team this year so why trade a young defenseman with potential for another LW when you have two top LW for the future. It makes more sense to aquire a RW.

19 Nov 2016 03:54:40
I kinda agree with Xcing. While I disagree with him about the Flames not needing JVR I do agree if Hamilton were to get traded, then it would need to be a RW coming back for Calgary. The LW is good in Calgary, I mean; Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Frolik (if they acquire a RW then he can move to left side and Versteeg plays RW on 3rd), and Ferland. Pretty solid. But the right side is awful. Versteeg has proven to be the most unreliable guy in the NHL over the last 5 seasons. Conpletely streaky and goes through periods of time when David Clarkson is more noteworthy on the ice. There's a reason he gets bounced around as much as he does. Brouwer is best as a 3rd liner, but he's at least compotent in a top 6 position (he's overpaid tho) .

Imo Calgary should look at teams like the Dallas Stars, New York Rangers, Buffalo Sabres, Boston Bruins, Ottawa and Detroit as teams to shop Hamilton to. Some teams like Detroit, NYR and Sens may need to be waited till the offseason to look at because of cap, but the Flames need to assemble a good forward group if they ever want a return to the playoffs.

19 Nov 2016 16:38:56
Kings makes good points. Xcing, Troy Brouwer should not be looked at as a real top six threat of the future. That top 6 is not as good as it could be because versteeg and Brouwer are third liners on any good team. Championship teams need guys like Brouwer for sure and it was a good move to get him, but championship teams don't have Troy brouwers depended on for scoring at a second line rate.

19 Nov 2016 16:38:56
Kings makes good points. Xcing, Troy Brouwer should not be looked at as a real top six threat of the future. That top 6 is not as good as it could be because versteeg and Brouwer are third liners on any good team. Championship teams need guys like Brouwer for sure and it was a good move to get him, but championship teams don't have Troy brouwers depended on for scoring at a second line rate.

19 Nov 2016 18:23:30
If anything, flames need help on the right side of their forwards.

21 Nov 2016 17:29:44
If veersteeg is in your top six, it's not a very good top six, him and brower could make a pretty good 3rd line.

18 Nov 2016 01:23:14
Ottawa:
LW - Matt Puempel $0.900

LA:
LW - Dwight King $1.95

------------------------------------

Hoffman - Brassard - Pyatt
Dzingel - Turris - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Stone
King - Kelly - Neil

McCormick

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Borowiecki - Wideman

Claesson

Anderson - Condon

-----------------------------------

IR:

Clarke MacArthur
Andrew Hammond

-----------------------------------

Pearson - Carter - Toffoli
Puempel - Dowd - Setoguchi
Brown - Lewis - Nolan
Clifford - Shore - Purcell

Forbort - Doughty
Muzzin - Martinez
Gravel - Gilbert

Budaj - Zatkoff

-----------------------------------

IR:

Anze Kopitar
Jonathan Quick
Marian Gaborik
Andy Anderoff
Brayden McNabb.

18 Nov 2016 08:22:07
Not much of a difference in cap but i wouldn't be give king away for puempel

17 Nov 2016 21:49:21
Edmonton:
Eberle
Reinhart

Ottawa:
Ryan
Lazar.

17 Nov 2016 23:32:54
I like it.

18 Nov 2016 08:21:19
Pretty fair

18 Nov 2016 15:35:16
minimum 50% retention on Ryan would be needed.

16 Nov 2016 13:02:52
Since Ottawa is shopping Hammond and the Sharks don't seem sold on just having Dell as their backup I could see a fit there.

Using the recent Condon deal as a basis:

Sharks get Hammond

Sens get either a low level prospect or a 5th round pick

Not a blockbuster by any means but given the sharks and sens trade history it seems entirely plausible.

16 Nov 2016 18:24:27
I thought they got condon so if Andersen leaves they'll have two NHL goalies still. They're going with a 3 goalie system.

16 Nov 2016 19:49:08
Reports are that they are testing the market for him. My best guess is that unless they get something surprisingly good for him they'll keep him.

Just seeing this based on value and needs.

16 Nov 2016 21:15:31
Why should SJ be unhappy with Dell? He's been great so far.

17 Nov 2016 01:25:22
Great? He's played 2 NHL ever and has 5 goals against.

17 Nov 2016 04:25:28
Hammond sucks. Flash in the pan.

17 Nov 2016 12:12:06
I'm not denying Hammond isn't worth a lot, actually it's why I'd rather have him out of Ottawa while there's a chance to get something for him.

17 Nov 2016 16:19:57
Hammond isn't even worth a cold dried up cheese-burger.

17 Nov 2016 19:27:47
Hammond has only had a bad start to the season because the team around him was still learning their defensive systems sorted out.

16 Nov 2016 04:45:34
STL: Yakupov
OTT: Hammond, 6th.

16 Nov 2016 06:36:44
You can take out the 6th. Yak was scratched on 4 of the last 6 games for the Blues, he worth nothing just like Hammond. Not sure if STL need another goalie tho.

17 Nov 2016 15:07:51
we do not need another goalie. Allen is fine and hutton is better than average back up.

17 Nov 2016 15:09:25
Blues would want a 3rd back or just keep him for depth untill end of season.

17 Nov 2016 16:23:07
Blues will take it if Sens change Hammond to a 5th rounder.

18 Nov 2016 15:44:52
why would you say that. Blues used a third to get him. they will keep him for depth.

15 Nov 2016 14:37:04
OTT: Andrew Hammond, Curtis Lazar, Clarke MacArthur (cap dump)
CGY: Dougie Hamilton.

15 Nov 2016 17:21:34
The cap will go up thanks to the NHLPA. Look what cost to get rid of Bickells contract. Who's better tervainen or Lazar. Balancing out Ryans contract with value. Some or most may not like it but tough. It's. A good move for both teams.

15 Nov 2016 18:30:37
A. Hammond is not a good goalie prospect not to mention the Flames are set in the future goalie department.

D. Hamilton scored twice as many points and goals as Lazar did last year. The Flames need top 6 offence and Lazar can't provide it.

AND you want the Flames to take a cap dump.

Counter:
CAL D. Hamilton
H. Shinkurik

OTT M. Hoffman
C. Ceci.

15 Nov 2016 19:19:08
Ottawa's top 4 would become extremely expensive if that happens.

15 Nov 2016 19:35:11
Alberta moose, yes his initial offer is crap. But your counter offer is just as, maybe more laughable. Hamilton couldn't get Hoffman and Cici. Not even close.

15 Nov 2016 20:39:37
Lol Alberta moose. That counter offer is straight out ridiculous. Hammonds NHL career maybe still young but he still has better numbers than any goalie you have in your roster/ prospects. lazar didn't have good offensive numbers last year because he was mainly used in a checking line against other teams top lines and was relied on more for his solid defence and didn't get much ice time playing the offensive side of the game. He's better defensively than half of your forwards just need to transition his junior offensive numbers to the NHL when he has the chance. And MacArthur won't necessarily be a cap dump forever, he's 30 and just injured. He will fit in nicely to any teams top 6 once he becomes healthy. Plus not everything is a pro with takin on Hamilton. He's on a lengthy and not to mention expensive contract not too many teams would be willing to take that one without taking salary back.

16 Nov 2016 01:53:12
Yeah the counter was trash. I was just a little annoyed at people under valuing a 40 pt. 23 yr. old defensman. I'll try to be a bit more level headed next time.

Hammond is a crap shoot, like all goalie prospects, but like I said the Flames have multiple goalies in the system and don't need Hammond.

Sure Lazar is defensive centre. However the Flames have a better one in Backlund.

MacArthur is one of the most fragile players in the league. I'm not saying that to bash him, but 4 concussions in 2 yrs. is scary. I know when he is healthy he is effective.

 
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