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22 Jan 2017 21:25:52
To ottawa :
Kevin Shattenkirk

To St. Louis :
Bobby Ryan (ottawa eats 2 million from his contract), Logan brown, a conditional 2nd rounder in 2018 (based on whether or not shattenkirk resigns)


To ottawa :
Nathan MacKinnon, 2nd or 3rd in 2017

To Colorado :
Derrick Brassard, Thomas Chabot, Curtis Lazar, 1st in 2017, Clarke macarthur



St. Louis avoids a tough decision with defence protection with Vegas draft looming, and ryan get a chance to revive his Career and get away from Gretzky expectations he's getting in Ottawa while st. Louis land top 6 guy for a decent price, a blue chip prospect and a pick.

Ottawa breaks the bank for a shot at the cup by landing the untouchable Mackinnon for the blue chip defence prospect they want, a possible blue chip prospect forward, a top 6 defensive center, and a 1st round pick, macarthur helps the cap situation work and gives depth to Colorado when he returns.


Smith Mackinnon stone
Hoffman Turris dzingle
Dziurzynski pageau white
Pyatt Kelly Neill

Karlsson methot
Shattenkirk Phaneuf
Ceci borvievski

Anderson
Condon

Ottawa takes a legit run at the cup this year.

22 Jan 2017 21:50:34
Ottawa/ Colorado? wow

22 Jan 2017 22:11:35
Sorry, but i'm ashamed to have you as a fellow sens fan. Dziurzynski plays in the DEL, not even in the organization anymore. Also, Ottawa is NOT going to give up Logan Brown for a UFA, or at all for that matter. Same goes for Chabot. That second trade is just sooo bad for both teams. Ottawa gives up too many assets and will have too many holes in the roster (They have enough as is) and Mackinnon Is Untouchable.

22 Jan 2017 22:13:54
that is not a cup winning team when zack smith is your 1st line RW

22 Jan 2017 23:06:41
Stone and Smith already have killer chemistry giving smith quite a bit of stat padding confidence and adding a franchise player like Mackinnon to that mix would only strengthen it while Turris Hoffman and dzingle have shown brilliance together as a 2nd unit would be stellar.

Add that to the fact Karlsson and methot have carried the team for years and bringing in shattenkirk and pairing him with Pheneuf to quarterback the second unit would take a lot of attention away from Karlsson or risk opening things up for shattenkirk to go on a tear.

The move for Mackinnon would give shattsy more incentive to take a pay cut to stay in Ottawa to pad his stats and go for a cup.

And it doesn't have to be Dziurzynski we could bring up Nick Paul for all I care lol but no sense in breaking up the killer checking line of Kelly Pyatt and Neil especially when pageau is versatile enough to play with any one.

Toast cbj sorry to tell you but ottawa definnately can make a run for the cup with that line up. They'd have the best defence in the league no doubt with a solid 4 lines led by a franchise guy and a great defensive catch. Boucher would have a field day with that roster.

21 Jan 2017 06:56:39
OTT: Ceci, Lazar, 17 1st
ARI: Stone, Duclair,

Sens get a more solid, bonafide Top 4 D. Chayka said that he's looking for a puck moving D for Duclair. And they get that with Ceci. However, Ceci has really regressed this year, so ARI would be going for Promise here over Performance.

Also. Stone will probably test the free agent market this offseason, so they might as well get something for him.

Smith - Brassard - Stone
Hoffman - Turris - Ryan
Dzingel - Pageau - Duclair
Pyatt - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Stone
Boroweicki - Wideman

Anderson
Condon

21 Jan 2017 08:29:28
Really bad for Ottawa and you're a fan.

21 Jan 2017 09:09:51
Drop the pick and Arizona might still do it. No need for a first.

21 Jan 2017 09:58:03
yeahhh. I wsa thinking of adding Fischer from ARI

21 Jan 2017 10:53:09
Take the 1st out.

21 Jan 2017 20:40:45
Man. Ceci is Reeeaaaallllyyyy overrated. He's been horrible this year

22 Jan 2017 03:04:52
He's still a top 4 D and a pretty solid one two. he's still young as well so don't trim the grass before it grows

22 Jan 2017 15:15:31
I agree take the first out. I would hope Stone would resign or its not worth it

22 Jan 2017 20:55:40
Way too steep ottawa says he'll no

20 Jan 2017 22:32:15
To OTT:
James Van Riemsdyk
Roman Polak

To TOR:
Cody Ceci
2017 3rd Round Pick

Toronto gets that right-handed d-man who can be paired with Rielly and Ottawa gets a forward who can fit in well in terms of scoring and in terms of his low cap hit. Polak fits the hole left by Ceci.

Thoughts?

20 Jan 2017 23:43:58
Lol Polak replaces Ceci. that's like replacing Hank Williams with Katy Perry

21 Jan 2017 16:17:32
Sens have interest in Landeskog and Duchene, Ceci would most likely be part of a package for them not JVR

20 Jan 2017 18:10:16
To Colorado:
Ceci
Lazar
7the round pick

To Ottawa:
Landeskog
5th round pick

20 Jan 2017 19:22:28
Change the 7 to a first and make the fifth a third and you got a deal. Lazar isn't worth much and Ceci is decent but not worth most of Landy. Thefirst needs to be included in order to make Col think about that one.

20 Jan 2017 19:28:07
7th round Avs will want a 3rd

20 Jan 2017 18:08:46
To Colorado:
Ceci
Lazar
7th round pick

To Ottawa:
Landeskog
5th round pick

20 Jan 2017 18:43:57
Leftover pieces won't net Colorodo's captain.

Something more along the lines of subbing the 7th with unconditional 1st, deletion of the 5th by Colorado and Turris instead of Lazar might get the convo started.

Would like to see Ottawa improve, but Colorado won't probably even look at the left over pieces in this original proposal for their captain as a feasible deal.

20 Jan 2017 19:24:53
I agree with you that Lazar is a leftover piece but you must be on pills to say that Ceci is. he's not worth Landy but he's still a decent top 4.Him, Lazar and a first would do it for Landy. Changing Turris for Lazar is stupid for Ottawa. Turris alone is almost worth Landy

20 Jan 2017 20:41:32
Turris is definitely not worth Landeskog

20 Jan 2017 23:49:39
Yea no he is not I never did she was. But he isn't far off when you think of it. he's only 3 years older gets around the same amounts of points and is a two way center. Their might be a second that separate them but not much. i'd take Turris before Landy tbh

21 Jan 2017 05:53:27
Gonna need a lot more than that from the sens. If that 7th turns into a first it's closer, but with the way Lazar has played this year it's unlikely they take that

21 Jan 2017 21:21:03
Turris is worth Landeskog. Landy stopped improving ahead of schedual and Turris is such a clutch player. He's a two-way foward with higher production than Landeskog. He's not as big ok but he's a center.

22 Jan 2017 21:03:35
Fair Trade4all you must be on some hell of a drug buddy.

Landeskog isn't even worth everything in that trade. Ceci straight up would be more than enough to get Landy. Taylor hall was landed straight up for Adam Larsen and if you want to compare players hall out ranks Landy while ceci out ranks Larsen.

22 Jan 2017 22:38:44
Landy not worth near what you think he is. This is his 2nd bad season in as many years. He'd be lucky to land a prospect and a 2nd or later pick

19 Jan 2017 19:48:10
1-To Ducks
Jurco

To Red Wings
2017 3rd
______________

2-To Blue Jackets
Howard
2017 4th

To Red Wings
Harrington
2017 2nd
_________________

3-To Dallas
Miller

To Wings
2018 5th
________________

4-To Panthers
Smith

To Wings
Matheson
2017 6th
_______________

5-To Ottawa
Vanek

To Wings
Dzingel
2017 2nd
________________

6-To Minny
Ott

To Wings
2018 7th

19 Jan 2017 21:07:19
Florida one is bad. Matheson plays a big role on Florida D.

19 Jan 2017 22:57:54
The one that immediately stock out to me as being the worst was the Florida one. That one is awful

19 Jan 2017 23:24:46
Their all awfull exept the one that sends Ott back to Dallas. Its not awful but I'm not certaint that Dallas wants him back but for a seventh why not?

20 Jan 2017 20:18:45
Ottawa wouldn't trade for vanek seeing as how he is a ufa at the end of the year and Dzingel even if he has been slowing down recently is still a very talented young forward and Ottawa has no recent history of trading for older UFA's anyways

19 Jan 2017 17:23:42
Ottawa: lazar, Harpur, 1st

Colorado: landeskog

19 Jan 2017 18:15:35
I feel like Chabot or Ceci would have to be part of that trade.

19 Jan 2017 18:29:06
That's an ugly deal for COL. I think they will want one legit piece coming back. Lazar is not that piece

19 Jan 2017 18:37:39
Chabot is going no where

19 Jan 2017 19:12:21
Won't happen from the Colorado side.

19 Jan 2017 23:28:31
O no really? Wow K99 were does this genius in analysation comes fro?

20 Jan 2017 03:04:39
1) Chabot isn't being traded, especially not for Landeskog

2) The original trade undervalues Landeskog big time

19 Jan 2017 15:45:53
This would be a better trade for both teams

Ottawa trade:

Bobby Ryan & Cody Ceci


Colorado trade:

Landeskog & Beauchemin

19 Jan 2017 16:13:02
I really don't see any team taking Ryan's contract. It's way too long. He's going to have to be bought out by Ottawa.

19 Jan 2017 16:53:35
Agree with fair. Colorado is going to want somebody else rather than Ryan, like Chabot or 1st round picks. Maybe even Lazar? Just younger players.

20 Jan 2017 15:10:44
I like both teams and I would only add Lazar because Beauchemin is 36 and doesn't have many years left so he would only be there for the push to the playoffs hopefully longer. Landeskog would have to be resigned

19 Jan 2017 10:40:51
OTT: Duchene
COL: Brown, Ceci, 2nd Round 2018, 3rd Round 2017 or 2018

COL gets A- prospect in Brown who could possibly make team next year or year after in COL, #4 D in Ceci and they send 2 picks aswell, OTT may have to add something else

19 Jan 2017 14:11:04
Still didn't seem enough from Ottawa. Brown is fine but he's a gamble. He might become a good second line center or might not make it to the NHL. Ceci us okay but Colorado needs a really good D prospect I return for Dushene or Landy not a package combining a center ICH they have a lot of and a okay defencmen who's isn't incredible but decent. Ik thinking a guy like Hanifin for Dushene and myabe a sweetner coming from Car.

19 Jan 2017 15:14:02
Agree with mcjhabs

20 Jan 2017 18:56:26
Love people making no sense. Why does Ottawa need Duchene? And sacrifice slot for him. Great player just don't need him in Ottawa. Have enough depth in middles as is . If Colin white or Logan brown pan out then we be great. Turris and brassard are 1 and 2 so why bother. We need wingers if anyone actually knows Ottawa besides shirty head lines and very bias hockey articles. So keep Duchene and Landy if it means leveraging our future for guys a team wants trade cause the team is bottom feeding. Ottawa's problem in the past was over paying for players. So no more

18 Jan 2017 16:23:30
Ottawa Trades:
Bobby Ryan

NY Islanders Trade:
Andrew Ladd

Straight up, one for one. Hockey trade to help two struggling guys.

18 Jan 2017 16:49:51
Ottawa knows how much better and younger ryan is if they trade now it should be turris and a pick for a better center or lazar for a center or LW

19 Jan 2017 15:38:39
Omg Andrew Ladd is complete garbage this is what a trade should look like.

Ottawa trade:
Bobby Ryan and Cody ceci

Colorado trade:
Landeskog and Beauchemin

18 Jan 2017 15:56:54
Ottawa 2nd round, 4th round, lazar

FLA luongo, screviour, 3rd round pick


Ottawa will make the playoffs they need another goalie that's experienced because Anderson could be out because of his wife
And screviour will help out on their 3rd or 4th line to create offence

18 Jan 2017 22:19:31
Ottawa doesn't have a 2nd round pick. Traded to Toronto for Dion amongst other players. Which was traded to Anaheim for Anderson.

Lu's cap hit would be horrible for a budget team like the sens. As well the whole expansion coming up. Anderson when he is on his game is one of the best consistent goaltenders. He has one more season left and LU has until 21/ 22. He's 37 which is 2 years older than Anderson. You would have to think he doesn't have much left in the tank.

16 Jan 2017 04:58:56
Saw an article discussing this:

Oil: Reinhart

Sens: Lazar

In my opinion, no from Ottawa, but it somewhat makes sense. Lazar is up and down in Ottawa and he's been not getting enough opportunity, same as for Reinhart who is stuck in the minors now that Edmonton actually has a decent d core.
So not my idea, I just read on it.
But if it was realistic I'd take it absolutely for Oilers.

16 Jan 2017 12:03:35
O would you? Wow your generous your willing to trade a defensemen who can't skate and is not using his size at all, for a guy who's proven he can play in the NHL as a third line center for now but when develop could become a good second line center. Yea your really making Ottawa a favor they're bud

16 Jan 2017 12:15:26
Lazar > griffin


Id say another forward, or pick needs to be added. Cause i'd reinhart can't crack the oil defence, i don't think he'd crack ottawas, and he'd be useless in OTT.

16 Jan 2017 15:16:43
I'd say equal trade, but Edmonton needs D not forwards.

Lazar wouldn't crack the NHL lineup in Edmonton and would be playing in the AHL or a healthy scratch every game, so seems like a pointless trade.

16 Jan 2017 18:37:41
Mcjhabs you're the saltiest guy iv ever seen on this site since colt stop being a cry baby

16 Jan 2017 19:09:32
Rienhart has been doing very well in the AHL and I read somewhere that he has been looked over in all the call ups this year because they made up their mind before the season to let him stay down an entire season.

16 Jan 2017 01:43:33
Coyotes - Senators

ARZ: Vrbata, Stone

OTT: Lazar, Driedger, 3rd pick

Why?
Pair of decent players for Senators would be just what they needed to get in the playoffs. Vrbata is a potential goal-scorer, despite of his age, and Stone is also a potential d-man. Also the fact Stone's brother is in team would probably make him even better player.
Coyotes however has claimed that they're in need of a young center, and Lazar would be great one on that effect. Driedger and the third pick will make the deal just more fair for Coyotes, considering the fact they would lose some good players.

15 Jan 2017 19:48:34
To Ottawa: Matt Duchene

To Colerado: Bobby Ryan, 2018 1st round pick, Andrew Hammond, and filip ahl

15 Jan 2017 20:32:20
Lmao Ryan and Hammond might get Duchene's skates

15 Jan 2017 20:59:34
An elite center for a 7,25 million winger who produces less then a constipated cow, a late first and scarp pieces? Yea sounds realistic

17 Jan 2017 23:07:04
make it Ryan, Ceci, Lazar, Drieger, Chlapik and Chabot

for Duchesne and Barrie or
for Duchesne and Landeskog

Col wants young D, young forward, young good prospects (3)
Ott wants Duchesne and 1 of the 2 others

Ryan gets to play offensive and gets change of scenery

22 Jan 2017 22:49:28
Eat 2 million of Ryan's contract and change the 1st to a 3rd and ithe would make more sense. Ryan and Duchesne are around the same level of player and both could use a change. Bobby Ryan can't get away from those goofball people who keep expecting him to be the next Gretzky and put up 90 plus points a season but going somewhere like Colorado where he's not constantly being hounded like that might do him some good. Anyone who says he's anything but a top 6 quality player when he's healthy should just top watching hockey aso they are clueless.

12 Jan 2017 20:45:29
ottawa: Ben Harpur, 2nd round draft pick

Colorado: Blake comeau

13 Jan 2017 00:14:14
Why would Ottawa give a second and Harpur for a 30 years old player who has 8 points this year?

13 Jan 2017 12:21:48
Agreed, someone proposed something like this for Stafford to Ottawa and he has 10 points

12 Jan 2017 16:12:14
WPG: Stafford
OTT: 2nd Round Pick 2017

12 Jan 2017 17:26:52
Maybe a 3rd. He has a $4 mil salary and he has 10 points. I don't think Melnyk is willing to pay a guy that much for that production when they already have Ryan eating up $7mil

12 Jan 2017 18:37:16
Stafford is terrible try a 5th

13 Jan 2017 15:09:14
Ottawa has no 2017 or 2018 2nd round pick, clearly a biased jets fan

12 Jan 2017 04:47:02
To Ottawa: Andrew Ladd
To NYI: Bobby Ryan, 3rd

Both need a change.
NYI is getting more value in my opinion, Ladd being 2 years older and having the longer contract he will continue to underachieve. But Ottawa is very cheap and he would fit very well with the new coach there.

Ryan would play with JT who I think is the perfect center for him. They are two very similar players even though Tavares is much more succesful.

12 Jan 2017 06:16:11
Why would Ottawa want a worse contact than Ryan's? This change would not help Ottawa at all. Never mind the pick.

12 Jan 2017 13:12:40
If Ottawa is very cheap (which they are), why would they want the longer contract and give up a pick? Literally makes no sense for them.

12 Jan 2017 23:14:16
Go look at the way Andrew Ladd's contract is shaped up per year.

12 Jan 2017 23:21:14
And considerable money like that is valued a lot by Ottawa, look at what they gave up to not pay the Rangers the 2 millions they had already payed off Brassard's contract.

11 Jan 2017 02:40:57
Edm: eberle,1st, nurse, gustvasson
For
Ottawa : chabot, Ryan, condon

11 Jan 2017 07:25:42
Why on earth would edmonton add a 1st? Like no that's dumb. And this trade is also dumb for Edmonton.

11 Jan 2017 08:31:31
Both teams say no

11 Jan 2017 09:24:31
Chirp just Edmonton says no 😂

11 Jan 2017 15:34:38
OMG you can't be serious.

Sorry Ottawa, Ryan's 7+ M signed for 2 forevers contract is yours to deal with / buy out. No one in their right mind wants this contract unless there's heavy retention.

Only way to make this work would be:
1. 80% retention by Ottawa on Ryan ( No exceptions )
2. Delete untouchable vegas draft exempt Nurse and add Benning,
Osterle or other prospect D.
3. Delete the tenders from the deal. Edmonton will pick up Condon
on waivers for nothing.
4. Ottawa adds a 1st or 2nd rounder in 2018 pending which Dman
they want ( Benning = 1st prospect = 2nd)

11 Jan 2017 17:33:58
This is definitely not a trade that Edmonton does, but strictly because of Chabot Ottawa wouldn't do this either. I would like to think he's untouchable right now as their top prospect.

Also, I could be wrong here, but isn't the maximum retention possible at 50% of the contract?

11 Jan 2017 20:24:43
Chabot > Nurse

10 Jan 2017 23:28:20
Col : Dushene, Grigorenko

Ott:Chabot, White, Drieger

10 Jan 2017 23:31:58
lol Drieger stands out like a sore thumb. Take out the AGL goalie man and not even close, no from Avs. Almost enough for Duchene right there

11 Jan 2017 00:35:54
You do realized Grigorenko is practically worthless?

11 Jan 2017 01:26:17
Doesn't really seem likely. Duchene is good but you don't trade your two best prospects for one top player and a bust.

11 Jan 2017 02:55:19
Thanks but strong no from Ottawa, Chabot and White are our only hope

11 Jan 2017 03:00:45
Not even close for Duchene

11 Jan 2017 04:43:59
No from Colorado honestly. And if u guys are saying no from Sens you guys are ridiculous. The only way they'd say no is cause of positional needs. But even I'd move a Center to the wing and make room for duchene.

11 Jan 2017 21:06:58
Chabot and White are practically untouchable for the Sens

10 Jan 2017 20:50:52
To Ottawa: Zack Fucale

To Montreal: Chris Dreiger, Andreas Englund, 2nd 2017

10 Jan 2017 23:20:22
Fucale is worth a fourth rounder at most right now. He had a good Spengler cup so he might turnaround and become a good goalie but that's a big might right now we'd be luck to get a second alone for him.

11 Jan 2017 01:29:54
Fucale is a pure bust. No way.
The Habs have been one of the worst drafting teams in the past decade.
They're lucky they have Jesus in net

11 Jan 2017 04:56:09
Nope nope nope. In 2007 (a decade ago), they drafted Patches, Subban and McDounagh (can't spell it) . They got Gallagher in the 5th round (don't remember which year, I think 2011), Galchenyuk 3rd overall, Beaulier (looking like a decent top 4),

11 Jan 2017 04:56:21
Hudon whos putting up points in the AHL, and a whole bunch of guys who will be middle six in the future (Andrighetto, McCarron, Lekhonen, DLR) . Not to mention others like Scherbak.

11 Jan 2017 12:29:44
^ So in the past decade they've added 4 solid players to their roster through drafting, is what you're saying? Gally at 3rd isn't good drafting that's just taking the best available player. And all those guys in the second comment probably won't make it past 3rd line assignment

 
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