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18 Oct 2017 02:33:38
OTT: White, Brassard, Ceci, 1st
NYI: Tavares, Chimera

Hoffman - Tavares - Stone
Dzingel - Turris - Ryan
Pyatt - Pageau - Smith
Burrows - Thompson - Chimera

Claessen - Karlsson
Phaneuf -Chabot*
Boro - Wideman

*(he'll be back up in no time)

And yes, i do live in a fantasy world. :D

18 Oct 2017 23:01:27
Im a sens fan and I wouldn't do that lol.

19 Oct 2017 00:23:05
islanders say get lost.

14 Oct 2017 23:34:03
Col : Duchene

Ottawa : (sign and trade) turris, lajoe



Tampa : hedman

Ottawa : pheneuf, white, 1st in 2018, 2nd in 2019


Turris trade is actually close to happening if sakic can talk to and sign turris.

With sergachev looking to be the next big name defenseman in Tampa and his entry contract expiring at the same time as pheneufs, who will be forced to take a pay cut at that time freeing space for sergachev, it works in there favour. On top of that Tampa gets a solid replacement for Drouin and a one two punch with stamkos in white, plus a couple high draft picks.

Ottawa in turn reunites the hedman karlsson combo to do some damage.

Hoffman Duchene Ryan
Smith Brown Stone
Brassard Pageau pyatt
Burrows Thompson dzingle

Karlsson hedman
Ceci Chabot
Wideman Borvievski

Scratches : Claeson oduya formenton

If not now maybe in a couple years when Tampa runs into cap issues which is blunt to happen with the likes of Johnson palat point killorn sergachev kucherov all needing big raises and having hedman stamkos Callahan vasilevski etc all under big contracts as it is. White will give them the flexibility to move Johnson or palat.

15 Oct 2017 01:05:51
Wow. You are delusional a f.

15 Oct 2017 03:22:47
colorado says get lost give us a hockey player.

15 Oct 2017 05:52:34
Tanks absolutely laughs at you. That's the worst thing I maybe have ever seen on here.

15 Oct 2017 08:38:20
Awful for tampa. Also Johnson Palat Killorn are all signed long term already and Callahan will likely be bought out in the last year of his deal.

15 Oct 2017 09:16:44
Thats pretty much the worst offer for Hedman, like ever. Every conversation for Hedman would start with Chabot, Hoffman and then you add from there. Hedman is a top 3 defenseman in this league signed to a good contract long-term and just about to enter his prime.

15 Oct 2017 16:23:54
The_Triplets I get that hedman is amazing but to start a trade for him with both Hoffman and Chabot? Lmfao not even bro.

Like I said after signing stamkos long term they are already pushing the cap limits and still have to sign the likes of sergachev, kucherov, point, etc. All of which will demand significant raises.

Getting Hoffman makes it worst as he will want a raise soon too. Chabot also when he resigns will be on a big contract.

Chabot, white and pheneufs as well as kucherov, sergachev, and point will all have expiring contracts in 2021.

Point will likely get close to 4 million, kucherov will be upwards of 7 million, and sergachev will likely want around 5 million. That being said Hoffman will also jump to about 6 million, and Chabot more likely than not will earn around 6 or 7 million, both of will will hurt their cap long term. With that being said hedman for phaneuf changes nothing contract wise now but in 2021 he will be taking a huge pay cut (at least half what he's making now) saving them cap space plus white should have his stride going by then which will give them the option to move Johnson or pallat as white can slip in their spot at around a 3 million price tag. On top of that they get a couple draft picks. Phaneuf may not be anyone's favourite but he is still a valuable piece to any team.

15 Oct 2017 23:45:13
Hahahahaha. Yes start with Hoffman and Chabot for Hedman. Man you make yourself look clueless as f.

16 Oct 2017 00:20:10
Im an ottawa fan and i agree with the triplets, you are undervaluing hedman in a big way. both trades favour ottawa so greatly its almost embarrassing.

16 Oct 2017 13:26:23
Man Phaneuf and Hedman aren't even comparable on the ice you don't move them for a quicker expiring contract. They have a Johnson replacement its Point. you're talking 2+ years away for these guys. i'm also not sure you you can say at this point Chabot will demand more than Serg on an extension. Lightning need forwards to fill out 3rd line in 2 years for cheap? Their names are Adam Erne Mitchell Stephens Anthony Cirelli Brett Howden and Alexander Volkov.

18 Oct 2017 19:48:26
Facelift39 you're not a sens fan dude lol I never said Phaneuf was equal value to hedman, I said pheneufs contract was more favourable due to when it expires which is why I added white and the to high end picks, I also said that kucherov sergachev and point will all big expecting big raises the same year Phaneuf contract expires and hell be expected to take a pay cut.

No way Tampa can afford to keep those 3 palat Johnson Killorn hedman vasilevski stamkos and Callahan. Moving hedman for Pheneuf white and picks frees up 4 million that year while keeping their defence competitive and with the white addition who by then will be top 6 ready they can afford to shop palat or Johnson and Callahan giving them space to give those 3 their raise and get white a bit cheaper than the ones they lose in trades. Not to mention a couple picks to play with.

18 Oct 2017 20:00:23
And facelift39 please explain how the Duchene offer favours ottawa in any way? That's the dumbest comment I've ever seen.

Turris been in ottawa for the same time Duchene been in the league and their careers virtually mirror one another with a 0.04 point per game difference between them. Turris played with stone or Hoffman for half that time and No one near as good the other half and played the 1st 2 - 3 years without karlsson as he wasn't drafted yet while Duchene was with solid players every year from hejduk, orielly, stastny, landeskog, MacKinnon, etc over the years.

Couple the history with getting lajoie as well who is a solid defense prospect and this is a hockey trade.

Not to mention this is close to happening with the holding point being sakic wants to have turris signed before pulling the trigger.

Oh and please don't call yourself a sens fan anymore or at least get a clue first.

13 Oct 2017 16:46:17
Ottawa:
Matt Duchene C
3rd 2019

Colorado:
Kyle Turris C
1st 2018


Montreal:
Tyson Barrie D
2nd 2018

Colorado:
Alex Galchenyuk LW
1st 2018


Winnipeg:
Gabriel Landeskog LW
2nd 2019

Colorado:
Jacob Trouba D
2nd 2020

Minnesota:
Kyle Turris C

Colorado:
Matt Dumba D

13 Oct 2017 18:03:14
No from the Jets. Landeskog is good, but we don't need a forward if we are trading Trouba, we would need a D man as young and as good as Trouba in return.

13 Oct 2017 18:05:38
Montreal should really avoid that Tyson Barrie trade.

13 Oct 2017 23:42:09
unbelievable if you think turris is that good keep him then otherwise don't post.

14 Oct 2017 02:28:54
Habs should do that Tyson Barrie trade. They're D is very immobile and I've never been a big believer in galchenyuk but thought he was still young and good enough to take a chance on, but I watched the habs home opener against the hawks and he was abosolutely awful. Losing puck battles every shift. He went for a change on the back check on a 3-on-2 of toews, saad and Keith lol looked like kostitsen. Seems like he got a paycheck and has completely mailed it in. Looked so disinterested in that game.

14 Oct 2017 17:41:21
Great John you're on some heck of a drug if you honestly think the ottawa trade is bad for Colorado lmao. If anything ottawa says no to this in a heartbeat. Turris and duchene have virtual identical careers from highs to lows, they litterally have a 0.04 point per game difference since Duchene entered the league and turris joined ottawa in around the same number of games. Go look it up if you don't believe the stats I got straight from nhl. com.

Here's the real rumor that was circulating the last couple days and is a turris contract away from happening.

To ottawa = Duchene

To colorado = turris and lajoe.

14 Oct 2017 20:00:53
blah blah blah senskill typical sens fan think you have gold and it's only dust you guys only watch sens.

16 Oct 2017 17:10:27
Lol delusional if you think duschene is worth turris and a first. turris 7 points already. 25+goals a year. duschene has never had 25 goals. That 41 points last year is amazing too :p.

I'm sorry but duschene us not worth a 1st unless its just the first and chlapik. And maybe Wideman. I know ill probably get ripped on but stats are the truth.

18 Oct 2017 20:14:47
Great John I don't just watch the sens bro I follow hockey. There is a difference. If I just followed the sens I wouldn't finish top 10 in 90% of the hockey pools I'm in but I do. It's called not over or under valuing players just because they are or are not on your favourite team. It's also called doing your homework on a players history and not valuing them based on hype alone.

18 Oct 2017 20:32:22
For example their are safe picks and their are risky picks.

Stamkos = risky pick
Voracek = safe pick
Value = same

Yes stamkos is the better player no doubt but. stamkos is a risk as he is extremely injury proned while voracek is an iron man of hockey and very consistent.

Or

Last year example

Marchessault and huberdeau

Huberdeau better player but injury gave Marchessault a shot to play on barkov line and prove himself a safe sleeper pick.

And my personal favourite example is

Mcdavid Crosby

Mcdavid is a better player but Crosby has a better supporting cast that helps push him past mcdavid stats wise

same way duchesne supporting cast over the years push him very slightly over turris stats wise, doesn't by any means make him worth more than turris.

13 Oct 2017 16:29:56
Mike Green is a pending UFA, has 8 pts in 4 games on a bad DET team. With DET in a rebuild and most likely going to lose Green at the end of the year they should move him now that he's hot, However he has quite a hefty contract at 6 mil.

OTT:
- Ceci
- Burrows (cap dump to somewhat even
out the cap and keep the amount of
contracts on each team the same)
- 4th* (turns into a 2nd if Green re-signs)
- 6th

DET: Green, AA

Sens are also interested in AA.

Green can temporarily replace Karlsson's Production until he comes back.

DET gets a young top 4 defenceman and picks

Claessen - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Green
Boroweicki - Wideman

15 Oct 2017 02:10:58
doesn't burrows only make like 2 mill a year?

15 Oct 2017 15:51:08
This season, ceci really stepped up. He already has 2 goals and couple of assists in 5 games. he's playing 25 min and playing really well so I wouldn't trade him.

12 Oct 2017 18:26:07
Pitts: Turris, Oduya, Hammond

Ott: Maatta, Hagelin, 4th, becomes a 3rd if turris re signs or pens make it to the stanley cup finals

Pens need third line centre and cap space for next year all players are UFA and they get rid of Hagelin who has 2 years left, this make Ceci expendable

Col: Ceci, Brown, 1st in 2018 or 2019 ottawa choice, MacArthur

Ott: Duchene, if pick is below 15th sens get a 4th

13 Oct 2017 05:07:14
Col does not need another RD (Ceci) and the pick would have to be in 2017.

13 Oct 2017 11:24:19
Sadly the 2017 draft is already in the books /.

13 Oct 2017 22:26:43
Adding maatta to make ceci expendable, good one lol.

12 Oct 2017 16:10:43
Hear that the Sens are interested in AA, so here's my play on it.

OTT: Ceci, Burrows, 3rd
DET: Nyquist, AA

Hoffman - Turris - Nyquist
Ryan - Brassard - Stone
AA - Pageau - Dzingel
Pyatt - Tompson - Smith

Claessen - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Chabot
Boroweicki - Wideman

Andy
Condon

12 Oct 2017 16:42:00
that gets one of em. not both.

12 Oct 2017 17:23:32
No from detroit, not enough value coming back for them, they would prefer picks/ prospects, but they're definetly not interested in Burrows.

12 Oct 2017 21:13:37
Terrible for Red Wings. As said above, that does not get you both those guys. Not even close.

12 Oct 2017 22:25:14
Okay i'm sorry, but if you think that Ceci doesn't get you AA, you're not smart.

18 Oct 2017 20:49:08
I'd have to agree this won't work for a couple reasons.

1 - not enough value to get both nyquist and aa

2 - ottawa likes what burrows brings

3 - to even it out you'd have to change burrows to dzingle and the ottawa 3rd would change to Detroit 3rd

4 - even then the cap hit kills the trade as ottawa only has 5.75 free space and still has to sign turris.

07 Oct 2017 17:19:26
Long shot here.

To ottawa : Duchene

To colorado : Ceci, chlapic, dzingle, and 2018 3rd round pick

Then the islanders go on a bad start to the season causing Tavares to demand a trade.

To ottawa : Tavares

To new York islanders : turris, MacArthur (to fix cap issue), white, and a 1st round pick in 2018


Turris and Tavares both have expiring contracts which would nullify one another allowing islanders to sign a much cheaper turris and have a young Colin white to mould into the teams new center peice and an extra 1st round pick to fall back on or use as trade material, plus if MacArthur ever does get his heath back to prime shape he's a big sleeper in that deal.

Colorado gets the defenceman they need in Ceci, a top 6 potential prospect in chlapic, a 3rd round pick, and a top 6 - 9 ready now forward with a ton of speed and youth in dzingle.


Ottawa gets a solid top 6 to contend against the bigger teams.

Duchene Tavares Ryan
Hoffman Brassard Stone
Smith Pageau Brown
Burrows Thompson Pyatt
Scratches - Formenton

(Chabot) Oduya Karlsson
Pheneuf Ceci
Borvievski Claeson
Scratches - Harbour Wideman

In the next off season brassard becomes expendable and used to get the sens some picks back for the draft while brown takes his spot in top 6 rotation. Pheneuf also gets shopped around in off season for picks and prospects.

07 Oct 2017 20:58:55
lol.

07 Oct 2017 21:06:57
Lol. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆ. Pretty bad.
Trade Cici then have him in lineup. Phanuef already blocked trades to keep Methot.

08 Oct 2017 04:33:17
You're right lol the Ceci in the lineup becomes wideman or Chabot.

08 Oct 2017 22:51:43
unbelievable go back to bed ottawa always says there getting everybody but get nobody.

06 Oct 2017 23:10:42
I don't want to do this but i'm curious about the values.

OTT: Chabot
MTL: Pacioretty, 1st (to cover age diff.)

Patches - Turris - Hoffman
Ryan - Brassard - Stone
Dzignel - Pageau - Smith
Formenton - Brown - White

and Chabot would play very well w/ Weber

07 Oct 2017 04:44:52
Value-wise maybe its close hoff, but as a sens fan i wouldn't be satisfied.

07 Oct 2017 09:06:28
Woah. Heck no from Ottawa. What the?

07 Oct 2017 13:53:53
Wtf no.

07 Oct 2017 17:21:10
Lmfao hell no from ottawa.

08 Oct 2017 00:44:57
Really. so we give our Captain, the 35 goal man and a 1st for a guy who is a prospect. yes a very good one. however Not proven.
No thanks.

08 Oct 2017 09:34:03
Huh. getting alotttt of mixed signals here.

08 Oct 2017 19:47:06
BecaUs of age and controllability, easy no from Ottawa.
Chabot is young and controllable for many many years now, Paciorety is a UFA after next (? ) season. And will need a good raise. Who's to say he even stays in Ottawa, meanwhile Montreal will have Chabot for 6+ years.

11 Oct 2017 23:27:33
Not saying cahoots isn't good and won't be very reliable for the next couple years even up to 20 years. But patches is a sure 30+ goals for the next at least 4 years maybe even more If somebody want him they will be sure he will want to sign in a year So that's isn't a worry tbh But still a good point.

BUT ya no by gets Patches and pays a price LIKE cahoots if they know he will level in a year. But tbh I think right now Patches is still Orth more then a unproven cahoots. A bit like Sergachev for Drouin. Drouin is more proven even tho you get then Patches so mtl had to sweater the deal a bit even tho Segachev will be good. Not the best comparison but you get get the idea.

06 Oct 2017 19:31:06
Simple trade since Turris's contract extention might be a mess:

Ottawa: Turris+Ceci to Colorado
Colorado : Duchene to Ottawa.

08 Oct 2017 19:06:48
They are supposedly close on a exenstion.

09 Oct 2017 00:21:15
Close on dollar value yes however they're nowhere close on term, offering him 2 or 3 years likely won't cut it.

19 Oct 2017 01:34:11
Easy no from ottawa. That's way too much for duchesne maybe if col adds Barrie in return and ottawa adds a 2nd round pick but not as is.

02 Oct 2017 22:01:31
Ottawa: hammond/ dzingle/ 2018 2nd and 4th

Vancouver: sedin twins

Vancouver gets a backup with starter potential. A speedy well established winger that can play any role. aswell as two picks to help the rebuild.

Ottawa gets two players who can help their team for the now. While trying to have a deep playoff run to persuade EK to resign for the future.

Maybe this just sounds better in my head. But the gms must me on goos terms after the dahlen for bjrrows trade.

02 Oct 2017 23:45:08
Fair for senators, because any team that can handle $14 mill cap coming back, can't pay actual value for the players. However that package is not near enough to convince the Canucks to piss off fans and the twins by asking them to waive. Their legacy should only be disturbed if someone blows them away with something they couldn't possibly not try to get the sedins to agree. This isn't that. I'm thinking like a top 5 pick and a good prospect. And I don't see any team offering that.

03 Oct 2017 01:22:20
Lol. Hammond was just in waivers and Canuks have Markstrom and Nillson. Zero interest in Hammond.
Also, The Sedins aren't being traded.

04 Oct 2017 16:58:44
Insulting to vancouver.

29 Sep 2017 18:59:31
Ottawa: Hammond + 3rd + Lajoie
Arizona: Hill + 5th.

29 Sep 2017 23:31:59
Hard no thanks. Lajoie was sick in preseason, and we add the 3rd?

30 Sep 2017 00:56:58
I can't see arizona doing this trade. they would be giving up their top goalie prospect in hill just to change their 5th to a 3rd essentially, the players going to the coyotes from the sens are worthless.

01 Oct 2017 03:35:15
Honest i wouldn't trade lajoie. Man looks like a stud

29 Sep 2017 18:23:45
Ottawa: dzingle/Claesson/ 2018 2nd

MTl: Gallagher

29 Sep 2017 18:27:37
i'd say it's close but i think montreal values gallagher more than that. maybe add a 2019 3rd or a decent prospect like perron or lajoie.

29 Sep 2017 18:50:18
Ottawa passes. Gallagher does not have that much value. Zack Hyman beat him up the other day, he’s a bum.

29 Sep 2017 19:47:51
I don't think hyman beating him up affects his value but it was funny. I just can't believe that meat head who has broken his hand twice in the last cpl years would fight in preseason and even when hyman said to take off the helmets, gally said no and then punched his helmet lol. He's a good player but won't get out of his own way. Blocking shots with his hand the wrong way and a foot out from the body too like he's never seen it done properly.

29 Sep 2017 20:33:03
JVR would have to be extended for Canes to even consider.
But this proposed as is, is a No from Canes.

29 Sep 2017 20:33:29
Ha. that's meant for the one below πŸ™„πŸ™„.

25 Sep 2017 20:19:55
Vegas: Reinhart
Chicago: Hossa + 3rd

Vegas: McNabb
Ottawa: Perron + 4th

Vegas: Carrier.

26 Sep 2017 00:13:57
Reinharts worth a third, i'd say. Hossa is dead cap space. So hell no for Vegas.

25 Sep 2017 02:37:34
Colorado: Duchene
Ottawa: Brown, Ceci, 1st

as much as i'd hate to see ceci leave, i think that might be what it takes to get duchene, ottawa gets a solid 1-2-3 with turris-duchene-brassard down the middle, or if you want to do 1-2 punch you could move brassard or duchene to wing. i hate the duchene rumours as much as anyone else, this could get the deal done.

25 Sep 2017 06:45:07
I think it is an overpayment for duchene. Brown is 6'6 young centreman.

25 Sep 2017 18:44:58
Ya, I wanted to trade Brown too. I completely wrote him off as a bust. but damn man. He has looked like a solid 1C this preseason. Really Stepped it up with his pace and positioning this year. And tbh, with his surprising progression, i'm fine with not getting Duchene even though i wanted him for a long time. However, the Sens could trade one of their many D for a top 9 fwd who can help right now that's not as expensive as Duchene.

26 Sep 2017 17:39:09
Hoff. you 'completely wrote off brown as a bust"? But his "surprising progression"made you believe again?! Lol he's a 19 year old first rounder. You wrote him off as a busy because he was sent back to Juanito for a year like 90% of drafted players? And it's surprising progression for a kid to have a better second NHL camp than his first? That sounds like a pretty quick judgement of a good player. Leaf fans get a bad rep of over hyping prospects but I'll take that all day over writing off a 1st round pick after 12 months.

27 Sep 2017 20:40:56
Ceci and a 1st round pick. Sakic overplayed his hand and Duchene may actually stay longer with the Avs than he does. Terrible management of asset in my opinion. Chabot, White, and Brown will not be moved.

24 Sep 2017 23:54:28
Will never happen but let's get some thoughts.

1st off

To ottawa : duchesne

To colorado : Ceci, white, perron, and a 2019 conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Colorado builds for the future while ottawa goes all in now by going for one more trade.

To ottawa : doughty

To Los Angeles : turris, Wideman, paul, and a 1st round pick in 2018

Ottawa uses turris, the pick, and big prospect nick Paul to upgrade Wideman and replace ceci. Doughty gets to go to a cup contender while the kings get a decent top 4 replacement in wideman, a solid 1st or 2nd line center in turris, a big prospect in Paul and a 1st round pick.

Ottawa goes for a big cup run

Hoffman duchesne Ryan
Smith brassard stone
Brown pageau dzingle
Rienhart Thompson burrows
Wingles chlapic

Chabot karlsson
Phaneuf doughty
Claeson harbour
Borvievski

Anderson
Condon

Turris contract almost up anyway why not upgrade him long term with duchesne and make the rush that much easier by adding one of karlsson's toughest rivals a team mate all while keeping the biggest defence prospect as well in Chabot. Think of what Chabot could learn from doughty and karlsson. If doughty deal falls through go the other defence route and try for pietrangelo but change the 1st to a 2nd.

25 Sep 2017 04:57:22
Lol wow this post is something else.
Doughty trade is cringe worthy! That Petro backup plan offer is just laughable.
The "duchesne" (LMAO at spelling, sorry) trade isn't even that bad (needs better quality tho imo), I don't what you drank or took in the time between you finishing your 1st trade and starting your 2nd but I want in.

25 Sep 2017 05:20:15
You're not getting a prime aged Norris D man with 2 years left on his deal without your top 2 prospects plus plus in it. Nick Paul isn't on anyone's radar as a top prospect, he's a decent project, the first isn't going to be a good one, and turris as a first or second center? Where did Anze kopitar and Jeff carter go? Lol.

25 Sep 2017 11:00:55
Both trades are just horrid.

25 Sep 2017 16:14:26
"Will never happen but let's get some thoughts" Lol!

You're delusional for posting this. Straight up very delusional for even thinking, then posting this.

25 Sep 2017 16:21:26
Turris has been just as good as Carter for the last 5 years if not better lol 5 of 7 years turris had better stats than Carter on a weaker team 2016 Carter had much better stats and 2017 Carter was a little bit better but at the same time turris was adjusting to a new system under Boucher and didn't fall behind by much. So again given the age of Carter and kopitar and the decline that's bound to happen, yes top 1 or 2 center is expected from turris. And lots of teams covet a big body prospect like Paul to play their Checking lines. Add a 1st and a dman who could slip in on top 4 on Los Angeles easily and still get better, please tell me how that's a bad deal?

And duchesne deal basically gives sakic exactly what he wants in Ceci (top 4 dman with tons of potential who can log big minutes now), white (an elite level prospect center), and even sweetened the pot more by adding perron (mid level prospect with an upside) and a conditional drat pick based on how far into the playoffs the sens go.

I know something like this prob never happen but not because it's not fair value because it is more than fair value, but rather because teams now are far too complacent and won't try more than one blockbuster deal every so many years for the fear of losing team chemistry.

25 Sep 2017 16:34:34
Fact - duchesne wants out of Colorado ( his value drops due to attitude, getting closer to contract expirey, and due to situation being dragged on too long )

Fact - doughty went on record saying it's things don't get better in Los Angeles and they can't continue to be cup contenders then he wants to go to a cup contender team.


Fact - ottawa is coming of a season where if not for a blown call in the 1st overtime against pitsbergh on what was clearly a loose puck in blue paint in game 7 the would have been in the finals and probably would have beat Nashville to win the cup.

Fact - ottawa has 2 blue chip prospects taking the spots of Neil and methot and really making a name for themselves in the preseason in brown and Chabot.

Fact - add doughty and duchesne to the mix and yes the cup would be in reach. With guys like karlsson doughty and Chabot getting the play out of our end and setting up duchesne Ryan stone and Hoffman on the other end, yeah they'd have a great chance to put the doubters to rest.

25 Sep 2017 16:47:44
Oh and Unbiased Jim,

a 1st round pick is just as valuable as a top end prospect if the team has a competent scouting staff.

Also note that a top 6 / top 3 center in the prime of his career is the same or more value than a top level prospect and a top 4 d man or top 6 winger.

Throw in a young top 4 quality dman with time to grow and get better yet, tell me, what is the problem?

You people talk all this trash about my posts and proposals yet most of the time you post something so one sided against ottawa that it's cringeworthy lol. Sorry if I like both teams to benefit and not have my team torn a new one.

25 Sep 2017 17:18:07
You will need to offer up quite a bit more for Doughty. He's that good. The Duchesne offer looks reasonable but I don't know if I'd do that if I were Ottawa tbh. That's a lot of depth to give up for an up and coming team.

25 Sep 2017 17:39:40
Facts 3 and 5 aren't factual, fact 4 is irrelevant. the duchene trade is god awful for ottawa, can't believe you're a sens fan and would suggest that. the doughty trade is a complete joke for the kings, laughable at best.

25 Sep 2017 18:50:30
The duchesne offer is based around the premise of entising doughty even more so to waives his no trade clause to come to ottawa and guarrentee a trade for duchesne.

How would you have to offer more for doughty? That makes no sense.

A top 3/ 6 prime age center
A 1st round pick
A young prospect age defenceman who can play top 4 on the kings now
And a mid to top tier big body prospect

In what world is that not enough? Lol I'd get it if turris weren't the center piece coming back but he is, and he is a big enough piece to help the kings now and in the future lol.

Heck the preds landed subban for Weber straight up when Weber is up there in age and on the decline lol pretty sure kings end up better off in this one, while ottawa forms the deadliest blue line in hockey today and add a true number 1 center in the process.

Yes doughty is awesome but he's not karlsson level and arguably his last norris trophy is questionable a best as karlsson had him beat no doubt and he's coming off his worst season of his career to date and on record saying he does care if it's the kings or any other team he just wants to win. Loyalty in question and results (stats wise) in question after last season do drop his value a bit.

25 Sep 2017 19:01:01
Facelift39 lmfao what part of any of those facts are not factual? Go back and watch ot1 game 7, it's hard to miss the blown whistle at the wrong time with turris ready to pop in the game winner from blue paint with goalies back to him an whistle is blown, fact pits should have lost there.

They arguably should have beat the so called champs without brown chabot duchesne and doughty additions making them a bigger threat with them.

With power play units quarterbacks by karlsson and Chabot on 1 and doughty and Phaneuf on the other and led by duchesne Ryan and brown on one and brassard stone and Hoffman on the other there would be no stopping a goal from happening as the 2nd line is just as dangerous as the 1st.

25 Sep 2017 20:02:52
Oh god. You wrote so much delusional crapmin your original post I'm not even considering reading any of this.

25 Sep 2017 21:14:22
Senskill. when you say the senators "probably" would have beat nashville, or the addition of doughty and duchene would give the senators a great chance to put doubters to rest, or pittsburgh "shouldve" lost there. those aren't facts dummy.

26 Sep 2017 17:50:51
Ok so 2 of the 3 are probabilities but the one about ottawa should've beat pitsbergh is a cold hard fact. No way turris misses an open net game winner from inside the blue paint while the goalies back is turned in the 1st overtime when the whistle was blown prematurely as soon as murray touched the puck. No 2 or 3 second wait or nothing. Fact ottawa is the real east conference winner not shitsberg.

26 Sep 2017 17:59:20
And old trades that say the doughty trade is a great fair value deal, I've got 3.

1-

Jack Johnson straight up for Jeff Carter. (Johnson was doughty number 2 and only got Carter, turris is just as good as Carter if not better, and younger, plus a 1st, a top 4 quality young defenceman and the big role player that every team needs at least 1 or 2 of.

2 -

Seth Jones for Ryan Johansson straight up.

3 - kevin shattenkirk for Chris Stewart and nobodies.

22 Sep 2017 01:27:02
I think Ottawa might do this trade:
Ott: Ceci, 2nd, Nick Paul
Colorado: Duchene

Thoughts?

22 Sep 2017 17:10:47
Chabot.

22 Sep 2017 17:50:36
As a sens fan, I would take this and run. but to be honest, if sakics demands are as high as I believe you would have to replace Nick Paul with a legit top prospect. I'm okay with that as long as the names aren't Chabot or white, and the 2nd would likely have to be a first. otherwise sakic likely holds off, Duchene has this year and next on his contract. not really as much pressure for sakic to accept a low ball offer, yet imo.

22 Sep 2017 19:27:32
Not enough from sens, at least make the 2nd a 1st and it's not bad but still probably not enough. Nick Paul is nothing special and probably has no value so Ceci and a late 2nd isn't close to Duchene.

24 Sep 2017 00:31:16
Lindss please don't post again. Chabot is going nowhere.

Duchesne is a class 3 forward under the likes of mcdavid and Crosby, and taresenko and toews. He will not get what sakic thinks he can get for him though it will take more than what is here.

I'm thinking Ceci, chlapic, and a first rounder will get it done. Get on that Dorian.

27 Sep 2017 20:45:46
Chabot, White, and Logan will not be included in trade for Duchene.

Ott: Ceci, 2nd, Nick Paul
Colorado: Duchene.

21 Sep 2017 02:16:01
My colorado/ Ottawa trade rumor.

Colorado- Matt Duchene
Ottawa- Cody ceci, Logan Brown, 1st.

21 Sep 2017 04:25:57
Not worth it from sens

21 Sep 2017 21:27:11
I would put ceci, change it to a second and put nick paul instead. Thoughts?

20 Sep 2017 23:01:15
OTT: kyle turris/2nd 2018/ cody ceci/hogberg/ max macormick

Toronto: komarov / mitch marner

21 Sep 2017 01:10:55
Man. come on.

21 Sep 2017 01:12:42
This can't be a serious post.

21 Sep 2017 01:39:40
and what in that package is worth mitch marner? trade 2 wingers for a center we don't need? ceci the answer for torontos d? trying to figure this out from torontos end. and i cant, because its horrible.

21 Sep 2017 03:07:19
No from both sides. jesus. you just gave away our whole cupboard.

21 Sep 2017 07:06:51
I see Turris, Ceci. If i was giving you Marner & Komarov. i'd ask for Hoffman & Brown

22 Sep 2017 18:01:03
I can't believe leafs fan think this trade is a joke bcz its the leafs getting ripped off lol.

17 Sep 2017 00:07:38
Ottawa: Chabot, Brown. 2018 1st

Colorado: Duchene

17 Sep 2017 02:19:54
ahhh. ya. huge no from sens. like its not even close.

17 Sep 2017 02:35:45
Take out brown.

17 Sep 2017 04:04:11
Ottawa says no but Sakic also declines cause he's stubborn.

17 Sep 2017 04:52:38
Lol. No from Ott. Wow.

17 Sep 2017 20:40:05
I don't think any teams would offer anything close to this for an old pending free agent.

17 Sep 2017 20:40:05
no from ottawa? you mean no from col for a bunch of unproven prospects.

18 Sep 2017 01:06:58
Ottawa would hopefully not do this.

19 Sep 2017 04:41:36
No great John he actually means no from ottawa in a big way. 2 elite prospects and a 1st round pick is far too much for duchesne let alone 1 of those prospects being Chabot lol. Face it the guy is not mcdavid or Crosby.

12 Sep 2017 07:05:09
Ottawa trades Dion Phaneuf and a 2nd to new jersey in exchange for dalton prout and Nathan bastian. I know Phaneuf has a modified trade clause, but let's just say new jersey is a team on his list.

12 Sep 2017 15:27:30
But why would Jersey be a team on his list? i'd think he'd be more leaning towards a true contender. if he was traded.

12 Sep 2017 18:28:51
This is dumb because NJ wouldn't be on his list. So no point in even talking about it.
He already blocked a trade at deadline. And wouldn't waive for Vegas. So Why would he now accept, And to NJ.

 
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