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24 Oct 2016 19:07:19
OTT: Thomas Chabot, 2017 1st
ANA: Hampus Lindholm

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Smith - Brassard - Ryan
Pyatt - Pageau - Kelly
Dzingel - Lazar - Neil

Lindholm - Karlsson
Methot - Phaneuf
Wideman - Ceci

Anderson Hammond.

24 Oct 2016 20:01:43
As much as I would love that, Anaheim won't trade Linds for that.

24 Oct 2016 21:27:04
Toss in Hoffman and it's way better.

25 Oct 2016 13:10:25
Ottawa would have a massive hole on the left side, no way they give up that much for another LHD.

20 Oct 2016 08:05:03
OTT: Curtis Lazar, Francis Perron, 1st
ANA: Hampus Lindholm

Ottawa gets a very good young defenseman who i think could thrive with karlsson.

Anaheim gets a good depth player i'm Lazar and the QMJHL MVP from last year on LW

*this trade would happen post expantion draft*

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Smith - Brassard - Ryan
Dzingel - Pageau - Pyatt
Varone - Kelly - Neil

Lindholm - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Methot - Wideman


20 Oct 2016 08:28:48
As much as i'd love this to happen it doesn't help Anaheim now.

20 Oct 2016 09:37:56
And they don't get a top 6 forward that they need either so the only thing that help Anaheim is the cap but it'll be one year to late lol.

20 Oct 2016 12:07:22
Add in another piece.

20 Oct 2016 12:29:48
"Ottawa gets a very good young dman. Anaheim gets a good DEPTH player" sums up the trade entirely.

20 Oct 2016 18:22:07
TopShelfSlappers - Lazar is so young, Perron is gunna be amazing plus you'd be getting a 1st Round.

20 Oct 2016 19:38:40
I don't know about Perron being amazing. But as long as he turns out better than Puempel I'll be happy.

20 Oct 2016 20:39:02
lol JZ Dal you got to chill with that.

20 Oct 2016 20:54:02
Perron plays in the Q. No way he produces in the NHL anything close to like he has in junior. I've watch him play twice and didn't impress me at all.

21 Oct 2016 12:05:50
Perron is in the AHL now, he had 2 points in his first game. Not saying that's an indicator but if he keeps it up it's possible he's a real steal from the 7th round.

19 Oct 2016 08:16:06
LA: Rob Scuderi, 2nd and 4th 2017
OTT: Anderson

OTT: Curtis Lazar, 2nd 2017 (becomes 1st if Ottawa makes playoff) and conditional 4th if Bishop Resigns

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Smith - Brassard - Ryan
Dzingel - Pageau - Pyatt
Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Scuderi - Wideman
Bench: Chabot and Puempel


19 Oct 2016 10:21:20
Rather keep Anderson and hope he finds his groove again.

19 Oct 2016 10:51:09
What's the 2nd trade? Bishop for Lazar and the conditional pick?

19 Oct 2016 12:08:12
Uhh no thanks on the first trade. Scuderi is pretty much useless at this point.

19 Oct 2016 14:49:02
I like the Bishop trade for Ottawa.

19 Oct 2016 15:08:41
Ottawa has no second round this year.

19 Oct 2016 16:13:46
Why does Ottawa trade for Scuderi? 😂.

19 Oct 2016 20:44:25
Any offer for Bishop would start with Cody Ceci.

18 Oct 2016 13:31:46
OTT: van Riemsdyk
TOR: Puempel, Lazar, 1st Round 2017.

18 Oct 2016 17:39:58
truthfully that might be too much from ottawa, however I don't do that because I just don't like lazar and puempel haha, not a bad trade in truth. not bad mate.

18 Oct 2016 18:51:08
Peumpel's value is probably reslly low now. He's been passed by Ryan Dzingel and Nick Paul on the LW depth chart.

18 Oct 2016 18:53:18
van Riemsdyk would be a perfect fit in Ottawa 2nd line LW spot with Brassard and Ryan.

18 Oct 2016 19:45:40
It just depends on if toronto is still trying to build youth. I think Lazar couldbe third line center and the 1st round pick can help continue the build. I would say this would be more of a trade at the trade deadline.

18 Oct 2016 19:48:57
I really like Lazar, and I would not be willing to give up a first right now for scoring help considering how this season could go for the Sens. Puempel is useless. He's a scoring forward who can't score in the NHL.

18 Oct 2016 19:59:41
@Kingslover, Nick Paul is in Binghamton. So I wouldn't say Puempel has been passed by Paul on the depth chart.

18 Oct 2016 21:37:02
I think Puempel could maybe do well if he got a change of scene, I like him, I don't want Ottawa to trade him yet, but van Riemsdyk would be a good fit on the 2nd line, look how Hoffman turned out, as soon as he turned 25 he finally turned into the player he was supposed to be.

14 Oct 2016 06:53:52
chicago: rozy, hossa, desjardins
ottawa: ceci, 4th.

14 Oct 2016 08:14:42
Sens counter:
Ottawa: Borowicki, MacArthur, Kelly
Chicago: Panarin, 4th.

14 Oct 2016 12:21:56
I like that counter from BeeJay.

15 Oct 2016 10:53:53
Chicago can give up rozival, he's done, but why would they give up hossa and desjardin for a defenseman they don't need? Trading those guys, theyed definitely want a forward back, already hurting at forward to trade two starters for a de that would be 3rd pairing.

12 Oct 2016 20:22:14
This may just be my opinion but I don't think Cam Talbot should be the Oilers goalie going forward. There are several goalies better than him on the trade block because of the expansion draft.

Should they re-consider having Talbot going forward, here are a few possiblle trade options:

#1: EDM-TB

Oilers get: Ben Bishop

Lightning get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart, David Musil, Tyler Vesel

Why for TBL: If they lose Talbot in the expansion draft, they get some highly talented prospects to make up for it (not that Talbot for Bishop strait up would happen)


Oilers Get: Marc-Andre Fleury

Penguins get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart, Ziyat Paygin

Why for PIT: Same thing with Tampa. Yes Fleury is worth less than Bishop. When Jarry is ready to come up, they just trade Talbot for some prospects.

#3: EDM-DET:

Oilers Get: Jimmy Howard

Red Wings get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart

Why for DET: Same situation as Tampa. I think the Red Wings would get greety and ask for more but that would just be unfair. Do I think Howard is the right choice, NO, but does it work if they have to do it, I guess so.


Oilers get: Andrew Hammond

Senators get: Cam Talbot, Ryan-Nugent Hopkins

I don't think this happens because RNH is 100% overrated with lots of down years since coming to the NHL. Will a team be dumb enough to take him, yes.

Some other goalies that may be avalible: Mike Smith, Semyon Varlamov. I think the price will be too high though. I think the Yakupov trade ruined some of these chances because teams would be dumb to take an overrated player like him too. Then you get a goalie for this package: RNH, Yakupov, Talbot.

12 Oct 2016 20:42:03
First and second trades aren't very bad, third trade is just stupid for the Oilers, Howards even if not worse than Talbot. Fourth trade is god awful. yes, there are people who way overvalue him, but this is just terrible. Talbot altogether is more proven than Hammond, who had a lucky break in the season he went 22-1-2 or some nonsense like that. Nuge is a proven 50 point guy, and the way your saying it, you make him sound like a cap dump, which he isn't.

12 Oct 2016 20:48:12
No from TB and PIT and an easy no from EDM on the last two. Nuge and Talbot for Hammond, really?

12 Oct 2016 20:48:18
Lol they got worse as you went along, I would make a comment about the trades but not worth my time. Troll.

12 Oct 2016 20:51:23
Talbot and Nuge for Hammond? Uh oh.

12 Oct 2016 20:59:24
Are you serious? I'm no oilers fan, but RNH and talbot for Hammond?!?! He's a flash in the pan, 30 year old back up. You are delusional if you're not sitting at home laughing at the fact that people are even responding to this. Sens couldn't get talbot for Hammond and a pick less than a first. And you think a really good top 6 forward needed to be included?

12 Oct 2016 21:00:10
Yea, I'd rather keep Talbot instead of Jimmy Howard's 6 mill contract, yet can Talbot played better than him last season and you want them to add. The Andrew Hammond one is just pure trash, really. Hammond is a shaky backup, Talbot played better than him with more games, and even in the AHL last year Hammond posted a 4.05 GAA, you sir are Delusional, and you want them To add Nuge!? Lol none of these trades make sense. I like your comment about teams being dumb enough to take Nuge, either you don't know anything about hockey or you just hate the Oilers, which one is it?

12 Oct 2016 21:15:44
Doubt any of those teams want a 4.1mil goalie in a trade, a cheap young prospect maybe. Think they'd want skaters. I could be wrong, but with Talbot, doesn't save them much cap just to lose him in the expansion draft maybe. Ottawa trade doesn't even make sense. Talbot had a .917 save % last season so don't think he's oilers problem. Hammond was .914.fleury was .921 and bishop was .926 but played on much better teams.

12 Oct 2016 21:49:22
Lol that ottawa one is so bad for oilers that trades as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop.

13 Oct 2016 00:34:11
If it was that easy to get Bishop he would have been traded a long time ago lol.
I don't know why you don't think Talbot should be the Oilers goalie, it's your opinion but I'd like to disagree to an extent. Talbot is not the Oilers problem, and he did very well on a very weak team. You could say he is quite underrated as he's the Oilers goalie, but for sure if Bishop was an option I'm sure any team would try and get him for that price.
Also, Oilers have two very good young goalies in their system in Brossiot and Ellis. LB last year had flashes but ultimately struggled in his starts for the Oilers but every year he has progressed and he looks to have a very bright future in the organiation. And Ellis is fresh from College and he also looks like he could have a nice career.

13 Oct 2016 02:19:29
Brossoit had like a 9.40 save percentage in the pre season I think and he's been on the AHL all star team for the past couple seasons I think. At 23 he's on the 2nd tier of those young promising goalies I'd say. So yeah Oil are decently set in net. Always room for improvement but not really a weak spot.

13 Oct 2016 02:52:04
Andrew Hammond? he's not a No. 1, more of a flash in the pan mediocre backup.

13 Oct 2016 05:31:29
Or maybe we give it a couple months and see how Talbot performs? Little early to toss him aside, isn't it?

13 Oct 2016 06:43:24
Chirp idk if you think I or ebs meant that LB will play for the Oilers this year, but Talbot will for sure be the starter this year and the next. I think next year LB will be the fullltime backup until Talbot loses the job to him.

13 Oct 2016 06:46:57
first 2 are close enough. maybe tampa adds a pick or something. pittsburgh i think is closest, but with them threatening to repeat i don't think they'd give up fleury. detroit adds and the ottawa trade may be fair straight up talbot for hammond. maybe add a 1st from ottawa and a prospect if you insist on RNH being in the trade.

Hammond, Ceci, 2nd for RNH and talbot
anderson, 2nd for rnh and talbot.

13 Oct 2016 06:58:46
My reply was intended for the original post. Before game one of a new season with an adjusted team in front of him (D has been drastically reworked and I think it could make a big difference), someone already doubts Talbot? I'm not saying he's going to be a legit star, but I'm not saying he's going to be a sieve either. It's obviously WAAAY too early to tell. Talbot was good, not great, tonight, but he was definitely better than Elliott tonight who I'd say everyone here would grant is a legit #1G in this league and has a strong D core in front of him. So, IMO, this is all just a silly conversation. Even with the win, the Oilers need some adjustment time (PP was horrid) . That said, it's far too early for overhauls.

13 Oct 2016 14:47:55
Oh yeah for sure.

13 Oct 2016 17:50:33
You would Kaner 🙄.

08 Oct 2016 07:37:11
Oilers: Ebs
Senators: Ceci

Oilers: RNH
Anaheim: Vatenen or Fowler (whatever is closer)


08 Oct 2016 08:27:38
Well Vatanen should now be close to untouchable as per his new contract in tact. As much as Fowler's skillsets would help, Edmonton has enough LD as it is, oilers are likely starting off with 2 RD and one of them is likely to be out side any pairing as a 7th d-man.

08 Oct 2016 15:58:52
I'm not sure who is next on the Chia purge list. Some think it's Nuge, others say Nurse. I don't think it will be Eberlr. But, whoever it is, based on recent history, don't expect much of a return.

08 Oct 2016 17:16:14
Lol ^.

08 Oct 2016 17:55:50
Borje why do you say the same thing every day? You're not gaining followers or doing whatever else your goal my be. Seriously, you're not even making Oilers fans angry.

08 Oct 2016 18:03:55
My sources are telling me a deal is close between HF Boards and nhltraderumors. com involving Borje for future considerations.

08 Oct 2016 18:11:18
Good job adding to the convo as usual Skankar.

08 Oct 2016 19:43:25
I can assure you my last comment added more than your entire collection of verbal diarrhea has in its entirety.

09 Oct 2016 11:40:56
He adds ten times more to a conversation than you ever have Borje. You're a broken record. Pretty pathetic
And your come back to this will be calling me pathetic for something stupid I'm willing to bet. Just give up bud.

29 Sep 2016 02:08:29
Rieder just asked for a trade so i think ottawa should inquire what it'll taketo get him.

Ottawa: Paul 3rd and/ or Englund

Arizona: Rieder.

29 Sep 2016 09:08:21
Paul, Not Englund. we need LHD.

29 Sep 2016 10:16:24
Englund is a good prospect but we need rieder more so if he's needed to make the deal happen so be it. Plus i doubt Arizona wamt any more forward prospects having an abundance of them already that's why i put him in. But maybe we can get rieder for paul and a 3rd maybe not all depends on how much they value paul.

28 Sep 2016 16:17:20
C - Ryan Dzingel $0.750
5th Round Draft Pick 2017

LW - Matt Calvert $2.20.

28 Sep 2016 18:11:01
More from Ottawa I'd say.

28 Sep 2016 18:37:09
That could work since Macarthur got injured. Move Puempel to 2nd line with Brassard and Ryan and then put Calvert on 4th line with Kelly and Neil.

27 Sep 2016 05:46:52
Ottawa trades: Nick Paul 2nd (17) 3rd (18)
Vancouver trades: Andrey Pedan, Alex Biega 4th (17)
Ottawa gets a young hulking up and coming defenseman and a depth defenseman

Vancouver gets a young hulking LW and a couple picks.

27 Sep 2016 06:41:57
No from OTT.

27 Sep 2016 07:16:16
Doubt Sens would be interested in that. Nick Paul is a good prospect. Obviously i'd do it from Van side.

27 Sep 2016 16:16:45
Nick Paul > Andrey Pedan
3rd > Alex Biega

Also Ottawa has lost Clarke MacArthur and Mark Stone to concussions and Curtis Lazar has mono. So Ottawa would be looking to add a forward possibly not give one up. Especially a promising prospect.

26 Sep 2016 18:30:45
Ottawa: 3rd and Matt Puempel

Edmonton: Nail Yakupov

If you don't agree I'd like to hear your input and counter offers. If your K99 please don't say anything.

26 Sep 2016 19:29:46
Doesn't really help the Oilers, unless they really need and want 3rd round picks.

26 Sep 2016 19:44:57
Looks decent. If someone sees something in Yak, it isn't bad. I'm not sure why anyone would give up anything for him though. You need to see him live to really appreciate what a sideshow he is. Cross ice passes 4 feet in the air, standing just inside the blue line watching the other team cycle while his def sneaks past him from the point and slow changes are always on display. But, he does have an explosive first step and hard shot. You never know.

26 Sep 2016 20:53:15
Bj96 maybee if edm had better scouts 3rd rnd picks would be worth while I know they ate a shot in the dark. But just a few drafts ago you had 3-5 3rd rounders make nhl teams ghost parayko, vessey. So it really depends on how good your scouts are. Plus if you have 2-3 picks third round it improves your chances. I would wait one more season see if yak improves then ship him out.

26 Sep 2016 22:17:05
Thanks for the insight Colt.

27 Sep 2016 03:40:30
Your not always going to pick in the high 1st 2nd round and even then edm hasn't picked well.

27 Sep 2016 04:32:36
just so you know, Vessey had made exactly zero NHL teams thus far in his career.

27 Sep 2016 05:21:12
Well we all know Borje is an Oilers hater, oh well, won't say anything to that, but Colt made a good point about the scouting. Oilers scouts were horrendous for so long until mcdavids draft year, so a 3rd round isn't that bad. But like Bj said, this doesn't help Edmonton. I'd rather tough it out with Yak then have Puempel.

27 Sep 2016 05:29:58
Puempel is garbage but atleast he has an ahl type contract lol

27 Sep 2016 05:56:16
Colt strikes again. and Borje, he really hates Edmonton.

27 Sep 2016 16:13:23
Go watch Yak guys. Then get back to me about the validity of my comments.

26 Sep 2016 06:53:05
Ottawa Senators:
- Dion Phaneuf (25% Retained)
(7,000,000 x 5yrs)
- Tomas Chabot
Winnipeg Jets:
- Jacob Trouba (RFA)
(Asking 7,000,000)

Imagine Phaneuf and Buyfugelin. Some nasty dudes.

26 Sep 2016 16:58:20
jets lose that trade.

27 Sep 2016 03:41:18
Chabot will be better than Trouba in a few years.

26 Sep 2016 06:22:25
With MacArthur out with another concussion Ottawa needs to prepare for the worst and bring in an other top 6 left wing.

Ottawa trades 1st and Chabot

Toronto trades JVR and Ottawa's 2nd.

26 Sep 2016 06:34:49
I would probably take that from the leafs. Chabot is a pretty underated prospect and looks like he will really thrive with the direction that the NHL is headed in.

26 Sep 2016 12:26:02
Ottawa is not projected to do well this year, why trade a lottery pick and a top prospect?

27 Sep 2016 16:25:04
Haven't seen too much of chabot. looked decent on the juniors but I read an article about the senators management really calling him out after their development camp in the summer saying his performance there shouldn't have even got him an invite to main camp. Last night in the first pre season he was less than impressive on the defensive side, and the leafs only NHL forwards were kadri, laich and greening. I know he's young and has time to learn and improve, but leafs have their own prospects to hope with, if they move JVR it needs to be for a fairly young proven D (Trouba, fowler, lindholm) . Might need to be a package to get some of them though.

25 Sep 2016 22:04:56
D - Dion Phaneuf (25% Retained)
D - Tomas Chabot
D - Jacob Trouba

Top 4
Phaneuf - Buyfugelin
Enstrom - Meyers.

25 Sep 2016 22:35:20
Hmm. You may need to retain more money. Interesting offer though.

25 Sep 2016 23:35:25
maybe if ottawa retains 50%.

25 Sep 2016 23:49:02
Karlsson and Ceci on the right side. Same situation as Winnipeg. Could possibly work but doesn't seem likely.

26 Sep 2016 03:52:52
Sens don't really need Trouba, they need LHD more.

26 Sep 2016 04:33:38
Chabot will be better than Trouba in a few years.

24 Sep 2016 09:08:47
So as I see Edmonton needs RW, maybe a proposal I can try to be even with.

- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
- Nail Yakupov
- (2018) 2nd round pick
- Mark Stone
- Curtis Lazar

Showing how good Nuge was in WCH, I don't think he's very overrated. Unrealistic but just for value wise of course.

24 Sep 2016 09:27:37
Tough one. But I'd say no. Rather have a good center in Nuge and I don't think oilers need a RW.
Then yak, kassian, pak.

24 Sep 2016 10:00:05
Agree with McJesus. No from Edm.
Puljujarvi will be very very good in no time. Will be the best winger on Edm in a year. If they decide to trade Nuge it def won't be for other forwards. It would be in a deal that has a legit top end D man coming back.

24 Sep 2016 13:26:33
Mark Stone is so underated Stone>RNH but oilers don't need him.

24 Sep 2016 15:11:11
Edm needs a RW? Are you cross-eyed?

24 Sep 2016 07:39:35
chicago: kruger, 2nd
ottawa: lazar

close? who adds?

24 Sep 2016 07:59:14
I'd personally say no from Chicago. Kruger is so dominate as a defensive forward and penalty killer and Chicago has him on a good contract and he works very well for them. And then they add a 2nd. No.
Not taking anything away from Lazar, just I think Chicago passes on this for the reasons I said.

24 Sep 2016 09:09:12
Idk Kruger is ok but I don't think he's much more then a low end 3rd line C or a good 4th line PK 4th liner. Lazar is/ will be better defensively once he develops a bit more. Sens pass imo.

24 Sep 2016 16:37:21
I don't think Kruger is on a good contract. In fact I think he is in a pretty bad contract. I get he is a defensive forward but he hasn't scored 10 in a season once and he is getting $3.10/ yr. i'd like to think Lazar will be a defensive player like Kruger, but with more offensive upside.

23 Sep 2016 03:55:56
OTT: Craig Anderson
COL: Eric Gelinas

OTT: Nick Paul, 2017 1st Rd draft pick
TBL: Ben Bishop

Ottawa gets a big stay at home bottom pairing LH dman to play with Wideman. Andy goes back to Avs and will split the net with Varly. For the TB deal, Ottawa gets back Bishop in return TB will get a more than NHL ready prospect and a 1st round draft pick the following year. TB would also relieve some cap space and will start their younger goalie in Vas.

Line up
Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Mac - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Lazar
Puempel - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Gelinas - Wideman


23 Sep 2016 06:21:21
Ottawa has enough goalies and they already lost Bishop once. And he can also get a better return than that.

Also I doubt Colorado wants Anderson. They already have their starter and back up.

23 Sep 2016 12:14:23
Pickard is COL's backup, and he should be able to take over starting role if he keeps up his progression.

24 Sep 2016 07:35:02
i thought eric gelinas was in new jersey?

21 Sep 2016 23:15:50
LW - Matt Puempel $0.900
D - Mikael Wikstrand $0.813

G - Joonas Korpisalo $0.743

Ottawa adds more depth in goal. Korpisalo is younger and showed he can play with the big clubs for when, not if when, Anderson gets injured.

22 Sep 2016 03:39:23
a AHL trade post?

22 Sep 2016 04:28:38
Why would Senators want more goalies, Anderson, Hammond, O'Conner, Dridger. Also I'd think CBJ says no. i'm sure they'd rather just hold onto Koripaslo.

22 Sep 2016 04:53:47
Isn't Ottawa hoping to go with Hammond and O'conner.

22 Sep 2016 16:53:19
Driedger is expected to be the starter in Bingo. Matt O'Connor has dropped in the Sens depth chart. Korpisalo had a good stint in the NHL last year with one of the worst teams in the league.

21 Sep 2016 18:07:09
To Ott:Stastny{maybe retained}
To Stl: Lazar and a 2nd or 3rd

i think this would allow shattenkirk to resign in St louis

any suggestions.

21 Sep 2016 18:15:54
Lmao humongous no from Ottawa oh man.

21 Sep 2016 18:42:28
Where do I begin. Stastny is one of the most overpaid players in the game. Lazar and a 3rd get's Stastny with salary retained. Shattenkirk wants out if the West and wants to play in the East.

21 Sep 2016 19:30:39
I'd rather have Lazar than Stastny.
When people talk about over rated. he should be on the list. but. he's been so irrelevant the past few seasons we all forget about him. that's how bad he has become.

21 Sep 2016 20:08:15
wow ok.

21 Sep 2016 20:27:40
This doesn't help either team at all. Blues have plenty of middle 6 wingers already. Stastny may be mediocore at best and is defs overpaid but he's probably still the Blues best C. Senators have absolutely no use for Stastny after the Brassard trade, and even though they could probably afford it I believe the Senators are one of those teams with a cap budget, meaning there not going to spend to the cap limit.

21 Sep 2016 22:18:01
His would be great for STL (to get rid of that big contract) but no thanks from Ottawa.
Shattenkirk has said himself that as a player you only get this chance maybe once in your career to have control and be hall where you play and if it's not STL then he's going to use that control and go somewhere he wants to be. Probably east coast USA.

21 Sep 2016 22:38:58
Ottawa doesn't want to pay Stastny, who would be centering there third line, for 7 million bucks.

20 Sep 2016 05:16:47
Chicaho: Hossa
Arizona: Dvorak +3rd


Chicago: Hossa
Boston: Griffith (if he's still on the team? )


Chicago: Hossa
NYI: Del Colle OR Ho Sang


Chicago: Hossa
Ottawa: Drieger + 3rd

what's closest? who adds in any of them?

20 Sep 2016 06:30:14
So bad.

20 Sep 2016 12:14:49
The only close one is Ottawa because Driedger most likely won't be a starter.

21 Sep 2016 01:43:22
By your reasoning here, Seth Griffith is worth the same as Dvorak and a 3rd? When you make 4 trade options for one guy, look back and see if the pieces from each team are equal. not even close here.

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