Ottawa Senators Rumours

11 Apr 2024 02:20:51
Toronto trades
McCabe
5th round pick

Ottawa trades
Kelly
Brannstrom
Sokolov
3rd round pick

Ottawa could use a bottom pair defenceman to battle with kleven for a roster spot in the fall

Unless McCabe is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season. Kelly, brannstrom and sokolov are all RFA's that the leafs can fill in nicely with their own RFA's NRobertson, dewar and liljegren. Leafs also turn their 5th into a 3rd, which is a bit over the top but should be enough to entice treliving.

15 Apr 2024 20:53:20
Too much for McCabe, also McCabe didn’t like the idea of playing in Canada before being traded to Toronto so he probably wouldn’t play in Ottawa.

10 Apr 2024 13:18:01
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
3rd Round Pick 2025 (Florida's Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Leafs will be looking to upgrade Defence and adding Chychrun would fit into what they would be looking at.

Unless Chychrun is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season, NRobertson would be either on the second or third line in Ottawa, Liljegren though not Chychrun would play in Ottawa full time, DeWar fills in the 4th line nicely and Sens also get a 1st Rounder out of this deal

Remember everyone Chychrun was traded for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders when Arizona traded him to Ottawa and had more contract as well, so my proposal imo is similar to that transaction.



Thoughts ?

10 Apr 2024 20:25:35
- explain it any way you like, and upvote yourself till the cows come home, but these one-sided trades you post incessantly are a waste of everyone’s time.

- OTT isn’t going to help your leafs out like this for that yard sale of a return. Their new owner would fire any GM that even suggested something like this.

11 Apr 2024 01:40:21
So chychrun for a bag of pucks turns ottawa's 3rd into a 1st? No thanks.

11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.

11 Apr 2024 22:03:07
Chychrun with one year left is much more valuable than the three players with zero years left.
Ottawa has their own RFA's to work on this summer.
What value does 4th liner dewar have to ottawa? (McEwen still under contract, kastelic still under contract, affordable RFA's kelly and katchouk)
What about bottom pair d liljegren? (Hamonic still under contract, zub under contract)
3rd liner NRobertson? (Matthieu joseph still under contract)
Maybe it's an odd way of thinking to you, but how about just keeping your RFA's and ottawa keeps their 3rd? This would make the trade chychrun to the leafs for a 1st. I'm fairly certain this offer won't work for you, because it doesn't heavily favor the leafs.

12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?

13 Apr 2024 13:37:45
YES pinball, I would 100% click believable on chychrun to toronto for two 2nd's. I am certainly not trying to convince you or anybody that hamonic is equivalent to liljegren or that Parker kelly is equivalent to NRobertson, my point is that hamonic is under contract and likewise with zub. is ottawa really going to improve by having zub and liljegren in their top 4 on the right side and hamonic on the bottom pair? At forward, stutzle, Tkachuk, giroux, batherson, pinto, norris. would NRobertson be in their top 6? I'm going to go ahead and say no.
Joseph, kastelic, Greig, McEwen under contract for next year in the bottom 6 - I'm not suggesting these players are superior to dewar, I'm sure he's amazing on the leafs 4th line. I'm simply pointing out that they are under contract for next season. So unless ottawa can pull off a trade similar to some of the proposals you make on here, then these players will be taking spots.
To suggest ottawa would give up assets for fringe RFA's is absurd. Why not make a proposal where each of these players is involved in a sign-and-trade? I'm sure teams would be lining up around block. Ridiculous.

18 Apr 2024 22:57:03
I'd do this - puts Toronto in a salary cap bind after next season when Chychrun will want 8 mil per season.

19 Apr 2024 14:15:52
Pinball
Seriously the ratio of likes to dislikes on all of your posts through all these years isn't enough evidence to suggest you know nothing?

When are you going to pay attention to the 31 other teams in this league and what their position is on their players? You come at every trade with the same statement "the Leafs will be looking to do ___".

Assuming Ottawa is even shopping Chychrun, why would they settle for the worst return Toronto can offer just to help a division rival?

And lottery protected 1st round pick is absolutely hilarious, assuming the Leafs might potentially finish bottom 5 with the team they already have plus adding Chychrun?

19 Apr 2024 14:38:11
Adding Chychruns $4.6m would put the Leafs salary at $72.89m for players already signed til next season, out of a possible $87.7m.

You've offered 3 RFAs so there's no salary being sent back to Ottawa, and that's also 2 extra roster spots to fill out on the team.

Which means the Leafs would have $14.81 million left to complete their 22 man roster. They still don't have a starting goalie signed, they'd still need 1 more NHL defenseman, and they'd still need 5 more NHL forwards (10 forwards, 4 defenseman and 1 goalie are already signed for next season. )

$14.81m to sign 7 players, unless the Leafs want to ice AHLers to fill in those gaps which I'm sure you can agree would make them worse than they currently are.

Marner needs and extension, Tavares needs an extension, Knies needs an extension, Woll needs an extension. Oh, and Chychrun will need an extension after next season.

Lastly with this trade the Leafs would have no 1st round picks in the next 2 years which is brutal since they already have no 2nd round picks in the next 2 years. No cap space to extend and keep all the talent already there, and not enough quality prospects to fill in the rest of the gaps.

25 Mar 2024 13:54:30
At The Draft.

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
Hamonic
3rd Round Pick 2025*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Holmberg
DeWar
Liljegren
Cowan (OHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


*Sens have 2 picks in the 2025 3rd Round, their own and Florida's.
The Leafs will decide which one they want at The 2025 Draft.


This would be a trade proposal of the ages, Ottawa imo would look at this as they are still in a rebuild and getting this much for mostly BTkachuk could help them more for their future than not doing this proposal.
Leafs get a LWinger that brings so much to the table it would be worth trading away that much youth and future to get him, Hamonic gives them also what they need a tough right-handed shooting defenceman.



Thoughts ?

25 Mar 2024 14:48:55
Ottawa won't trade Tkachuk, especially for that horrible offer of 4th line NHLers, boarder line AHLers, unproven Junior players, and late 1st round picks.
Stop already with your daily one sided, pro leaf trade follies.

25 Mar 2024 15:40:46
islandjet1
Besides DeWar who is the 4th liner? and there are no AHLers in my proposal, Easton Cowan just set a record for conservative points in London and that's not a prospect?
Liljegren would be third in Defense scoring so that's garbage as well?
Two 1st Rounders aren't worth anything else according to you.
And Holmberg is a solid Winger/ Centre and will only get better.
Look to trade Brady Tkachuk would be a bold move but what is in my proposal is the opposite of what you just posted as besides DeWar being a 4th liner, nothing else in your view applies at all.

25 Mar 2024 22:12:48
Stop it. Ottawa wouldn't accept and the little cost controlled depth we do have should be held onto.

We are a whole ass year away from being ready to make a legitimate push. We have next to zero draft capital, our goaltending is questionable at best, and we are still missing a very solid RHD.

You overvalue our players like no other man and have no idea the value of other teams' players or their importance to their current team.

25 Mar 2024 23:35:21
Adding Tkachuk would mean $62.355 million out of a possible $87.7 million salary cap will be allocated to 6 players, 5 of which are forwards. (Matthews 13.25, Nylander 11.5, Tavares 11, Marner 10.9, Reilly 7.5 and Tkachuk at 8.205)

$24.645 million left to pay 16 players, one of which would be Samsonov looking for an extension and a raise on his current $3.55m salary.

Toronto doesn't get any closer to a Stanley cup by trading their best prospect and 2 1st round picks for another forward.

26 Mar 2024 13:19:09
DrezDave
16 players to resign?
That number is way off, you might disagree with me which you are entitled to about my proposal, but please post facts not fiction.

26 Mar 2024 13:29:39
He never said we needed to resign them he's saying we have $24.645 mill to fill out 16 roster spots. That's not enough to build a contending team. I'm sure you are seeing Vegas trade away their draft capital and are thinking man we should do that too. The difference is they have guys signed at reasonable cap hits so they have built an absolute powerhouse of a team because of it. They can afford to trade draft picks away cause they are likely 3-4 years away from some key players regressing and can wait to add prospects. We are not.

26 Mar 2024 13:32:55
$10.7 million allocated to Knies, Kampf, Reaves, Mcmann, McCabe, Timmins and Woll.

So that's $73 million out of $87 million committed to 13 players.

$14 million left to sign a starting goalie, 3 NHL caliber defenseman, and 5 other NHL caliber forwards.

You want facts? You can't ice a competitive NHL roster when 84% of your teams salary is allocated to only 13 players, none of which are the starting goalie.

26 Mar 2024 13:39:37
MG69
Leafs for next season have 13 players signed, the max on a roster is 23 players so 23 - 13 is 10 not 16, please explain where the other 6 come in?

26 Mar 2024 13:52:55
DrwDave
Woll is the starter next season not Samsonov, which I believe isn't resigned.

26 Mar 2024 14:10:05
Might as well take 2.2 mill off that Hamonic makes @DrwDave so that number now becomes 11.8 mill for two NHL caliber dmen, 5 other forwards, and I won't even say a starting goalie but another goalie to share starting duties with Will. Either way it's not enough to make a competitive cup team.

26 Mar 2024 14:40:40
Good god man he is saying the rest of the cap left over after you take away the cap hits of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, and Tkachuk would be used on the remaining roster spots whether they are signed to us or not. He also listed the players that are signed through till next offseason and they eat up $12.9 mill. So now we are at around $11.8 mill for the remaining roster spots from either guys in our system or guys we sign. End of the day we need another NHL level goalie, at least 2 NHL level dmen, and forwards to either be signed or from our system. The number is actually even less as I didn't include Jarnkrok.

28 Mar 2024 11:06:43
Thats alot of quantity with very little quality coming from the leafs, like usual.

31 Mar 2024 11:27:05
"Thanks, I needed a good laugh. " - Steve Staios.

03 Mar 2024 14:04:06
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*

Toronto Trades
Gregor
Grebyonkin (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2024 or 2026 (Sens choice)

*Sens retain 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.


I have brainstormed many different ideas of what if anything The Leafs could do before the deadline, I believe there is one more move to make to improve the forward group.



Thoughts ?

01 Mar 2024 14:40:56
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*
6th Round Pick 3024

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
McMann
1st Round Pick 2024

*Ottawa retains 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.


For Toronto they add upfront that can only help for the playoffs, NRobertson and McMann have played well enough that they have trade value, adding the 1st Rounder Ottawa would insist on because of the retention.

For Ottawa it's another year out of the playoffs and they will be shipping out players on expiring contracts like Tarasenko and looking towards the future, in my proposal The Sens get 2 forwards that will give them some more depth at The NHL level plus a 1st Rounder.


Thoughts ?

01 Mar 2024 20:33:58
Tarasenko is not needed. Rather the pick and the younger players.

02 Mar 2024 19:56:41
tarasenko has been one of my targets all season, he has the tools needed to do well in the playoffs.

02 Mar 2024 19:58:49
Senko doesn’t return a 1st.

03 Mar 2024 14:10:07
Toronto doesn't need a scoring forward they need defensive depth.

05 Mar 2024 16:14:44
Tarasenko may fetch a first if it becomes a bidding war for his services. Otherwise return is likely a prospect and a 2nd.

27 Feb 2024 15:51:36
To Pitt: Norris, Chychrun, 4th round pick (becomes 2nd round if Guentzel signs with OTT)

To Ott: Guentzel, Blomqvist

28 Feb 2024 02:56:31
This is horrible for Ottawa, why would they even consider this?

28 Feb 2024 13:29:45
What happened to you in Ottawa?

22 Feb 2024 22:52:46
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*
Hamonic

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Kampf
1st Round Pick 2024

*Ottawa retains 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.




Thoughts ?

23 Feb 2024 01:05:02
People are going to find a way to spin this and say it’s bad for Ottawa but no way both of these players return a 1st. Taresanko gets a 2nd and Hamonic maybe gets a 4th at the deadline. I’d be shocked if Taresanko returns a 1st.

23 Feb 2024 01:17:21
pretty close in terms of value imo

23 Feb 2024 02:22:20
I think the leafs should definitely get tarasenko for the playoff push.

23 Feb 2024 02:34:32
Someone will overpay for Tarasenko but I mean he's sitting with 37 points after 52 games so it's not a stretch to say someone will offer up a first for him.

23 Feb 2024 19:44:00
It will likely be a 1st from 16-24, so it's a decent offer. but please keep Robertson and kampf, either that or throw in a 2nd and 3rd for taking your spare parts.

23 Feb 2024 21:11:42
Facelift39
A 22 year old winger who is showing he is an NHL Player is a spare part?
Tarasenko for NRobertson and a 1st isn't reasonable?
Kampf for Hamonic isn't fair value either?
Are you watching The NHL or KHL?

24 Feb 2024 03:55:55
Haha Robertson and the 1st for a retained tarasenko sure, fair. but I strongly disagree that 1 year of hamonic at 1 mill is equal to 3 years of an unneeded kampf at 2.5 (which forward is coming out of ottawa's roster to accommodate this oh so massive upgrade? )

24 Feb 2024 14:12:34
HAHAHA…Pinball chiding someone on their hockey knowledge? ??

You can’t make this stuff up.

Facelift is right. Pinball is wrong, and will be very disappointed that the trades he’s envisioning won’t be anywhere close to what eventually happens at the trade deadline. The leafs don’t have the trade capital to make big moves, and will be planning modest upgrades where they make sense. Treliving is a smart hockey man.

24 Feb 2024 15:40:54
Chickenfoot
Remember last year around this time I posted The Leafs getting McCabe with half his remaining contract being eaten by Chicago?
You said I am delusional and that McCabe would never waive his NTC to go to any Canadian Team, nor would Chicago want any of The Leafs spare parts?
You are once again setting yourself up, let's see what happens by the deadline and who is right once again.

24 Feb 2024 15:46:15
And vvbbb hit the nail on the head that people like Chickenfoot would spin this is and say this is a bad trade for Ottawa.
vvbbb was right!

25 Feb 2024 17:03:33
PINBALL…no…I do not recall what a posted a year ago…get some perspective man…?

- The Trade Deadline is not a “Telethon in support of sending the leafs to the 2nd round”.

- Surely you are aware that most think your trades are outrageously one sided?

- 99% of your trade proposals are strictly “Make a Wish” nonsense.

- Post something good and positive feedback will follow, and stop being so darn whiney and defensive.

18 Feb 2024 16:17:16
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*
Chychrun
Hamonic

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok
Brodie+
Timmons
Minton (WHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYI Pick)


*Ottawa retains 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.

+Brodie has to waive his NTC.


Ottawa still rebuilding would get Picks, a prospect, a younger offensive Defenceman, a serviceable winger and Brodie is the Cap bridge needed for Toronto.

Toronto fixes both a top 6 at forward plus 2 Defencemen that would help huge for at least this season and next.



Thoughts ?

19 Feb 2024 05:13:49
Need to add Knies and more to that. No from Ottawa.

19 Feb 2024 05:51:05
This one is neither cap nor roster compliant, and has all the trappings of a Pinball homer deal that heavily favours the leafs and ignores what their proposed trade partner might want or need.

19 Feb 2024 06:04:48
That's really bad tarasenk is worth a 1st b prospect at 50.
Chcyrun is worth 1st top prosect 2nd.
Hamon8c is worth 3rd.


So you are way, way off.

28 Feb 2024 03:00:31
Lmfao go to bed lol.

09 Feb 2024 19:43:49
TAM Trades:

- Howard
- 1st ('26)
- 2nd ('25)
- 3rd ('24)
- Myers (UFA/minor cap dump)
- Fleury (
- Shalagin (Unsigned)

OTT Trades:

- Chychrun
- Tarasenko (UFA/50% retention)


- TAM pays a price to replace Sergachev
- TAM includes some contracts to create contract space.
- Sergachev's injury creates the need and the cap space to do it.
- TAM will need to send one waiver exempt player to make the 23-man roster limit.
- OTT gets picks and the Bolts top prospect
- OTT recycles 2 guys not in their future plans for futures.

14 Feb 2024 18:04:34
So much wrong with this I don't know where to start?

For one who's Howard? Are you talking former Detroit Goalie Howard? If so Ottawa don't need a goalie.

For 2 Tampas picks aren't high enough to mean anything here

For 3 Chychrun ain't going anywhere, Chabot is more likely to be traded than Chychrun is, he litteraly already put the kaboosh on those dumb rumors.

And for 4 why is Ottawa retaining anything, let alone 50% on Taresenko when they are already taking back cap hit on Myers and Howard (if it is the goalie)? Ottawa don't have the space for that.

15 Feb 2024 01:39:07
Hahahaha…Howard is Tampa’s top prospect, not a goalie. ?.

05 Feb 2024 18:48:52
Couple Hawks trade ideas.

CHI: Connor Murphy (50% Retained), VAN 2024 2nd
TOR: TOR 2024 1st, Noah Chadwick

CHI: Tyler Johnson (50% Retained), TOR 2026 2nd, OTT 2024 3rd
NYR: Kaapo Kakko, Zac Jones

CHI: Lukas Reichel, TBL 2024 1st
ANA: Trevor Zegras

CHI: Boris Katchouk
Any Contender: 5th

06 Feb 2024 22:21:17
Not sure teams will give out more value like a first for 2nd and 3rds. Like for your first trade, I think toronto is more likely to give a 2nd or a 3rd + for Murphy instead of giving a 1st and getting back a 2nd

08 Feb 2024 13:24:27
I think the first and second trades are close imo but that Zegras one is really bad. I don’t know too much about Katchouk so idk about the last one.

24 Jan 2024 20:51:01
Ottawa Trades Josh Norris

Kings Trade Pierre-Luc Dubois


Both players have similar contracts and are locked in. I think both players are under performing and would do better in their new teams.

24 Jan 2024 23:35:21
- interesting idea, since they both lack trade protection this season, and they have a lot of similarities.

- Dubois is just such an enigma though. Norris also has a higher upside with his 35G season.

- I wouldn’t want Dubois in my room, period. There’s something wrong with him. Who knows what motivates a guy like that beyond a contract year?

25 Jan 2024 19:32:47
Gimme Norris any day over PLD. Not close in my opinion.

26 Jan 2024 13:00:00
Norris only has one decent season. The sens really haven't got much from Norris so far. I simply see Norris getting past 80 point season. so he's not a superstar. Dubois is currently in slump and might be the only time King consider trading him.

Couple things that would work for Dubois is that he grew up 2 hours away from Ottawa. Could have his friends and family attend games. Maybe that's the motivation he needs. He's had some good seasons and still has lots of potential. He's biggger than Norris, has more games played and more points.

I don't think either team is getting a bad deal. I just think Ottawa would be better with him. Neither team would regret the trade. Low risk trade. Worst case scenario both teams end up in similar situation, but at least they tried something.

28 Jan 2024 02:26:10
Idk it just seems like a sideways move at this point. Like Chickenfoot said there seems to be something going on with PLD. He's on his third team at only 25. Whether it be he thinks he deserves to be a 1st line player or something else idk.

24 Jan 2024 20:24:25
Ottawa- Chychrun
- retain 600k
- 2024 fourth round pick

LA- 2024 first round pick
- Matt Roy
- Arthur Kaliyev
- 2025 second round pick


Decent trade for both sides. Who says no?

25 Jan 2024 15:39:15
LA says no I think. Drop one of the picks and I think it’s still a good trade for OTT.

25 Jan 2024 19:34:04
I think LA's focus should be on a goalie.

26 Jan 2024 13:10:44
I wouldn't trade chychrun.

29 Jan 2024 21:48:46
Not even close to enough for Ottawa to consider. A 1st and 2nd in a weak draft from a team that won't produce a very high pick at all equates to garbage. Kaliev is ok by by no means a high end pick up especially going to an Ottawa Roster loaded with young talent as good or better than he is. And I'll be honest, I don't even know who Matt Roy is, so he can't be that much of a sweetener to even things out lol.

And Ottawa eats 600k of chick's, and throws in a 4th? Lmfao

Nah dude, that don't work for Ottawa after giving up on Michkov + to get Chychrun. Up the offer a significant amount to get the conversation started. Or take out Chychrun and replace him with Taresenko and Kubalik and maybe Branstrom. That's more realistic for both teams involved.

19 Jan 2024 01:21:23
Ottawa Trades:
Shane Pinto

Vancouver Trades:
Podkolzin or Höglander
2024 1st Round Pick

19 Jan 2024 14:22:01
I think that's probably a fair value trade, but if I was OTT, I'd hang on to Pinto. He looks like a blue-chip prospect to these eyes, and hopefully he's learned his lesson about gambling.

19 Jan 2024 23:43:53
I also agree with @Chickenfoot

09 Jan 2024 17:00:32
Senators trade
-Batherson (4.9/ 3 more years)
-Kubalik (2.5/ UFA)
-Thomson (AHL/ entry level)
-2024 3rd round pick

Canucks trade
-Garland (4.9/ 2 more years)
-Hoglander (1.1/ 1 more year)
-Cole @ 50% retention (1.5/ UFA)
-Willander (SHL/ entry level)
-2024 1st round pick.

26 Jan 2024 13:11:36
Canucks have a good thing going. Don't see them moving lots of pieces.

09 Jan 2024 16:58:32
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2024


*Sens retain 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.


Leafs are juggling NRobertson, Holmberg and McCann on the roster, it's just time NRobertson starts somewhere else as it seems weather injury has slowed him down, or the numbers game I think it's best for him and the organization to part ways, Leafs again being one the better teams will be looking to add and Tarasenko isn't a Defenceman but he still makes Toronto better.

Sens not going anywhere will be trading expiring Contracts like Tarasenko for the future, and a player like NRobertson and a 1st Rounder is about what they should expect to get in trading Tarasenko no matter what team they trade with.


Thoughts ?

09 Jan 2024 18:31:15
Pinball, do the leafs have enough cap space for 50% of tarasenko's contract?

09 Jan 2024 19:26:09
Facelift39
Klingberg 4,150.000 (LTIR)
Samsonov 3,350.000
Yes they have plenty of Cap for 2,500.000 plus less with NRobertson in Ottawa.

10 Jan 2024 10:11:10
This trade puts the leafs 1.36M over the cap.

09 Jan 2024 16:56:23
Sens are rumoured to be making a huge trade- I'm for it as I'd rather tank for Celebrini than mediocrity.

Chabot 10 team no-trade kicks in June and his cap could be used to restructure with Sandersons kicking in next year.

Flyers are performing well and may try to make a run. I think Chabot would play well under Torts structure. Atkinson is playing poorly this year but could benefit from new scenery.

PHI: York, Atkinson, 2024 1st
OTT: Chabot, Kubalik

10 Jan 2024 10:03:06
Maybe make the 1st top 5 protected? I actually really like it.

10 Jan 2024 14:27:22
vbbvvbb you need to go away dude. This trade is bad enough for Ottawa without any pick protection, why would they make it worst, especially in a weak ass draft year? Ottawa has no need for Atkinson and Chabot worth a lot more than this garbage, let alone adding Kubalik too.

10 Jan 2024 15:06:12
I think where Philly is at, York being 4 years younger and 8M cheaper, they’d rather not add the first to get Chabot. How much different will those two values be in 2 years?

11 Jan 2024 18:08:38
Chabot is a 50 point D that can barely get 40 because he can’t stay healthy. York could likely get 40 points next season.

11 Jan 2024 19:32:26
Yorks playing big minutes for
Philly. When it’s all said and done there is a legit chance that york becomes the better dman then Chabot.

08 Jan 2024 13:53:11
Ottawa trades Drake Batherson and Bernard-Docker to Vancouver, while the Senators recieve Ian Cole and Nils Aman plus a 5th round pick

Ottawa gets a solid defenseman, who is also a old pro, plus they get a forward that is responsible and hardworking.
Canucks receive a forward that should help the depth in the top end of the lineup, plus a young defenseman.

08 Jan 2024 14:25:54
Lmfao Ottawa laughs and hangs up immediately.

08 Jan 2024 14:37:43
OTT is rightfully high on Batherson. I can’t imagine a scenario where VCR makes an offer like this.

08 Jan 2024 16:32:50
Terrible trade for Ottawa

07 Jan 2024 20:53:36
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
Hamonic

Toronto Trades
McCabe
Timmons
Abruzzese (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2024


Thoughts ?

08 Jan 2024 10:35:07
This isn’t a fair exchange in value, and the leafs would have to expect to pay a premium if they were looking for their provincial rivals to bail them out of their cap situation.

08 Jan 2024 14:26:50
Must be a Leafs fan posting thus garbage lol.

02 Dec 2023 18:22:28
DET : Seider

OTT : Chabot, 2024 2nd, Sokolov

Swap of a righty for a lefty. Detroit has lots of Rightys but no real Top end lefties and Ottawa is pretty much the opposite, and with the emergence of Sanderson and the way Chychrun has looked since coming aboard the Sens, using Chabot to get a near equal level right handed young right side dman like Seider makes a lot of sense.

Sanderson Seider
Chychrun Zub
Branstrom Hamonic
Klevin.

02 Dec 2023 20:38:29
Detroit laughs.

02 Dec 2023 21:57:30
I don't think you'll see Detroit trading Seider.

02 Dec 2023 22:40:25
your trading for a future $10m RHD and not getting a 1st back, not even giving up a top prospect and to top it off, Chabot will be up for a new contract before you even lose control of Seider.

lets start the convo with Stutle anbd brannstrom, and detroit can add a 1st unprotected.

03 Dec 2023 12:31:44
Why does Detroit laugh vbbbvvbb?

03 Dec 2023 21:48:52
@Senslayer Assuming Detroit laughs because Seider is a RHD, 4 years younger and arguably the better player.

04 Dec 2023 19:27:37
Not arguably better player, is better player.

04 Dec 2023 23:57:02
Nathan you can say based on your own opinion that Seider is better but the fact is, stats don't lie dude. Seiders +/ - may be better, sure, but that only because that is a team stat, NOT an individual stat which is what you need to compare when comparing 2 individuals. And last I checked when I went to school, Chabot and his 0.59 points per game trumps Seiders 0.57 points per game. Am I wrong? No, I'm not!

When it comes to the stats they are relatively equal players in every way that counts. Hence the offer. Just because someone likes one better than the other based on the team they play for, doesn't actually make that one better lol. Seider is slightly better in some ways and Chabot is slightly better in other ways.

The reason I posted this trade wasn't to upgrade or downgrade either team, as it really doesn't do anything like that, it was to level out a lopsided blueline on both teams, a little more so for Ottawa sure.

Ottawa has Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson who are all Top 2 Level LHD who are Left Side Naturals

Detroit has both Seider and Edvinson who are Top 2 Level RHD, or in Edvinson case, will be that.

So instead of forcing them all to play less minutes or off sides, why not make a swap that would benefit both sides? Chabot would also bring leadership and a mentor like role for Edvinson, while Seider and Sanderson would be the perfect compliment for one another. And Chychrun and Zub together would be a solid 2nd pair for Ottawa.

05 Dec 2023 04:09:55
At 22 chabot had.44 pts per game if you want to compare. I am not comparing points I watch the play away from the puck and Seider is far better and is only 22 lots of improvement still to come. I also not sure if any team would trade bonifide #1 dman.

05 Dec 2023 11:44:38
I remember Stevie Y going off the board to draft Seider, and wow…did he ever know what he was doing.

Chabot has lost his game, but is still a young man, and can find it again. Nonetheless, at 8M/ season he is overpaid for what he currently brings.

DET has zero reason to consider this trade, especially since they’re under internal pressure to take a step this year.

05 Dec 2023 16:08:16
Senslayer, this proposal is wrong for Detroit on so many levels, its difficult to choose where to begin, but, let me try;

1. Detroit is not trading Seider, their only legit RHD for the next 2 or 3 years.

2. despite your lofty claim, neither Chabot or Chychrun are a top pair LHD. Both are gifted offensively, but neither is know for their defensive zone play. I have been reading other Ottawa fans on other blog sites complain about Chabots D zone performance for the last 2 years.

3. Detroit is doing just fine with the 4 LHD's on their roster - and Chabot is not an upgrade defensively to Walman, Chiarot, Maatta, and might be on a par with Gostisbehere. In addition, Detroits top 2 NHL ready prospects are both LHD's, and one of them, Edvinsson, has a highjer upside than Chabot.

This trade makes zero sense for the Wings.

And, though I said Detroit is not trading Seider, if Ottawa did want to entice Yzerman to listen to an offer, it would need to include either Tkachuk or Stutzle. Other than that, there is nothing else that Ottawa has worth considering.

In essence. dont bother picking up the phone.

08 Dec 2023 22:30:52
Chickenfoot Chabot hasn't lost anything. He's still a Bonifide Top 2 Calibre DMan, Ottawa just has an abundance of those who all play the Left Side now. Tough to fully showcase what he's got when he's sharing equal minutes 3 ways and still has Branstrom also on that side. Yet he's still getting pretty much the same point totals. And 8 million for what he does is a steal.

08 Dec 2023 22:43:40
Nashan as I said before, the stats don't lie. Is Seider better defensively? Sure he is. But NOT to the extent you're letting on. He's slightly better at best defensively just like Chabot is slightly better offensively.

And at 22 Chabot was also playing 2nd string to Erik Karlsson and barely had any ice time and no legit defense partner while Seider was a Top Pair guy with the best defense partner Detroit could offer. Do the math, of course Seider would have an advantage at those times. That's like me suiting up with Scott Neidermeyer as my partner and you suiting up with John Scott as your partner and me putting up better points totals and claiming I'm better than you when I can't even skate backwards and can barely stop properly lol it don't make sense to compare rookie years.

08 Dec 2023 22:59:16
Lago NOT true at all dude.

Point 1 ill give you some credit sure, but they do have Edvinson on the way for that role. What exactly do they have for the Left Side? Nothing!

To point number 2, Sanderson Chychrun and Chabot are ALL TOP 2 LHD. Name 5 LHD or Left Side Defense who trump any of them?

To point 3, Chabot is a major upgrade on any of those Left side guys no matter how you look at it. I shouldn't even need to explain why. And Edvinson, pretty sure is a right side dman, NOT Left side. I could be wrong there though, not gunna bother looking it up, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Though I highly doubt Edvinson will match Chabot let alone eclipse him like you say.

And Stutzle or Tkachuk, Detroit would be adding a lot more than Seider to get either one of those guys, don't make me laugh. They are both Franchise guys while Seider is upper elite at best which is below Franchise level. Any 1 of Chabot, Chychrun, Sanderson, Norris, or Batherson with a smaller much less significant piece or 2 would be well more than enough to get something done as they are all on Seider level.

The only DMAN worth even talking about involving Stutzle or Tkachuk for would be Makar who is well above Seider level sorry to tell you.

28 Jan 2024 16:26:08
Sorry dude - you haven't checked your facts.

First, Edvinsson is a LD, not a RD.
Second, beyond Edvinsson, Detroit has another NHL ready LD in Grand Rapids, Albert Johansson, and another who will be in 2025 in William Walinder.
Third, I think you vastly underrated Detroits current LD's. Walman, Maatta, and Chiarot are all just fine defensively. Matta is very good with the puck, and Walman has a snapshot equal to that of Chabot. He has 10 goals this season.
Fourth, you rate Chabot much higher than most folks do. He has offensive talent for sure, but, if I were to want to upgrade Detroits defense, I would never think or want to add Chabot.

Sorry dude. Have some warm milk and cookies and take a nap. Maybe you will feel better then.

24 Nov 2023 20:11:52
Alright here's a wild one with how bad Edmonton is doing and the wake up call my Sens need. What if they make a blockbuster between them sending McDavid and Draisaitl to Ottawa for a massive haul.

EDM : McDavid, Draisaitl

OTT : Chabot, Batherson, Norris, Taresenko, Kubalik, Forsberg/ Korpisalo, Boucher, 2024 1st, 2025 1st,

Ottawa gets the leagues best 2 players without giving up the support they have to pair them with and frees up a little space to sign Pinto, while Edmonton gets a completely new look Top unit, a decent support forward, a solid prospect, a quality goalie who's better than what they have now, and 2 unprotected 1sts to boot.

Ottawas new look Top 6

Tkachuk McDavid Greig
Draisaitl Stutzle Giroux

Draisaitl would be a great German Mentor for Stutzle and McDavid would be the peice to put Ottawa in the driver's seat in the Atlantic.

Edmonton new look Top 9

Hyman Norris Batherson
Kane Nuge Terasenko
Kubalik McCloud Brown

Plus they would have a 1 2 punch defense with Chabot and Ekholm and a better Goaltender and some future stock with Boucher and the picks.

25 Nov 2023 03:22:58
This is a lil more than a wild one.

25 Nov 2023 20:54:46
Quality over Quantity. As a sens fan, if we wanted McDavid (excluding Drai) it would probably take one of Stu or Sanderson to get the convo started.

Counter Proposal:
Chabot, Forsberg and a 2nd for Nugent Hopkins and Broberg

I do like Chabots fit on the Oilers assuming they manage to move clear cap and RNH accepts NMC. Forsberg immediately moves into their 1G role. Ottawa gets a good locker room team player on a great contract. Broberg gets a change of scenery and the 2nd can be used as part of the Campbell move.

27 Nov 2023 15:01:30
HockeyDads although I don't mind Nuge, he ain't worth Chabot let alone Ottawa adding Forsberg and a 2nd lol that just sends one sided vibes the likes of the Zibanejad and a 2nd for Brassard trade from years ago which was horrible for Ottawa in the moment and aged even worst. No thanks.

Also, what are you talking about quality over quantity for? That has nothing to do with this trade at all. Sure none of these guys are on the same level as Draisaitl or McDavid but honestly, who in the league is? Does that mean there is no quality here? Not a chance!

Chabot is one of the leagues best Top 2 Defensemen. Batherson is a young RW on a favorable contract who is more than capable of a point per game pace. Forsberg or Korpisalo have more than proven in recent years they are both very capable starting goalies. Norris is easily, like Batherson, more than capable of a point a game pace, could likely score 40 plus goals in a season, and is easily a Top 6 Center on any team he plays for. Teresenko may be older but he's proven in the past and is proving right now that he's a very capable winger himself who can at minimum put up 60 plus points. Boucher is still considered a high end prospect. And Kubalik is a solid middle 6 guy who's capable of 25 plus goals a season. Plus you add in a couple unprotected 1sts in 2024 and 2025. Call me crazy but you'll have to explain to me how you can honestly make that claim that this is quantity without quality? Lmfao This trade litteraly screams quality + quantity for quality to me and anyone who knows a thing or 2 about hockey!

29 Nov 2023 11:14:05
I’m just saying if Edmonton ever traded McDavid they would need a superstar they can build around in return. I know how good all those guys are, but none are the superstar you build around.
That’s why I said it would need to be Stu, Sandy or Tkachuk as one of the pieces.

30 Nov 2023 01:44:07
Both Norris as well as Chabot are young enough and skilled enough to build a team around dude.

Chabot is a Top 2 teir Dman who proved already that given the right defense partner he can be among the leagues best defensemen, he litteraly did just that when he was paired with Dylan Demelo of all people, that type of dman to pair him with isn't hard to find or get either.

And Norris within a few seasons already posted a 35 goal, point a game campaign as a rookie / softmore. Dude hasn't even come close to his prime yet.

Either one of those guys can easily be built around. Sure they ain't Tkachuk or Stutzle or Sanderson, but that don't mean they ain't great in their own rights. Plus the mentor figure Taresenko, a great young linemate on one of the best contracts in hockey in Batherson, a Solid prospect in Boucher, a starting Goalie far better than the ones they currently have, and 2 1sts which could essentially be both this year since Ottawa does have 2 this year and as we stand right now, one of those is looking great so far.