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16 May 2017 20:00:33
Some offseason ideas for the pens

Resign
Daley 2year 4mill
Hainsey 1 year 1.5 mill
Ruhwedel 2 year 975k
Bonino 2 year 2.5 mill
Schultz 4 year 3mill

Let walk
Kunitz
Streit


Free agent signings
Yakupov 3 year 975k
shattenkirk 4year 6-7 mill


Trades
Edm- RNH (retained 2mill)

Pens daley,hagelin 1st 2018

Lines
Guentzel crosby sheary
Yakupov malkin kessel
Sprong RNH hornqvst
Kuhnhackl bonino rust

Shattenkirk letang
Maatta dumoulin
Schultz cole

Fleury
Murray

16 May 2017 20:33:42
So they lose no one to expansion?! I know the pens get special treatment from the league, but I don't think they will be able to pull that one off. Also, both signings are rediculous. Yakupov signing 3 years at under a million is 100% betting against himself. He thinks he's still a good player. 1 year on a line with malkin and kessel would have his numbers and value inflated, why sign at 4th line money for 3 years?! And shattenkirk didn't leave a good team he liked to only sign 4 years. He's going for the home run.

16 May 2017 23:37:31
Daley hagelin and a 1st for Nuge? Hmmm.

But my real concern is you're willing to give shattenkirk 7 mil but schultz only 3? What?

And then the yak signing? I think he respects himself a little more than that and would want some more money, but to play on Pitt and if he is guaranteed a spot in the line up then that's a pretty easy yes then.

16 May 2017 23:59:32
Wow. Chiarelli isn't retaining on a Nuge trade. He will find a trade partner without retaining. Especially $2M. Delusional if you think otherwise.

17 May 2017 02:48:05
I didn't even notice the retaining on RNH lol if oilers are retaining 33% then thAt package is a lot worse. An older serviceable D, a third liner and a 27-30th overall pick? No thanks.

17 May 2017 05:24:19
Yeah my bad didn't even see that either haha. And wait isn't Daley a UFA?

17 May 2017 17:27:34
This is so bad. You resign Daley just to trade him. God people would hate your guts. Two we are losing someone to the expansion draft and you failed to have that occur. Three Shattenkirk isn't going to sign for 4 years. He will get so overpaid for at least 6 years somewhere else. I can see Yak maybe signing at that price for a year if he is guaranteed a spot with Crosby or Malkin. Chances are his numbers would inflate and he could make bank the following year. Personally have no desire to resign Daley or Hainsey. We have young guys coming up who will be fighting for a roster spot. Use that money else where. Like a solid backup goalie.

13 May 2017 23:57:41
Edmonton
A) Jordan Eberle
B) 1st Round Pick
C) Kris Russell

Pittsburgh
A) Marc Andre-Fleury
B) Olli Maatta

New York
A) Travis Hamonic

BREAKDOWN

Pens acquire Jordan Eberle, Kris Russell, 1st

Oil acquire Olli Maatta, Travis Hamonic

Isles acquire Marc Andre-Fleury

Oilers Defence Corps:

Oscar Klefbom - Travis Hamonic
Olli Maatta - Adam Larsson
Andrej Sekera - Darnell Nurse

14 May 2017 00:40:01
So.
Islanders lose Travis Hamonic (arguably their top D with a great contract) for a goalie who is just having a good playoffs?


. not mentioning he is 32.

14 May 2017 01:09:19
Russell is a UFA, and Oilers win this by a landslide. Wow.

14 May 2017 01:57:43
Not only is Fluery having a good palyoff, but he's a good goalie. and IMO an upgrade over Greiss. However I believe for all this to go down Islanders are going to have to add to this package.

14 May 2017 02:55:12
Don't get rid of Russell. He is a great rubbish blocker and that's what Edmonton needs.

14 May 2017 14:40:15
So Edmonton makes out like Bandits?

14 May 2017 21:00:04
Edmonton runs away laughing, upgrades their d significantly, Islanders wondering if A 33 year old Fleury was what they needed for Hamonic and Pens questioning if Eberle, Russell and 22nd overall was enough for Maatta and Fleury. It's not bad, Edmonton gives the most assets and gets the best ones but the other teams are just left with decent pieces, which to me is why you never see 3 way trades. I'd personally love to see Maatta and Hamonic's contracts added to Larsson/ Klefbom's steal of a contract but I don't feel like all teams will not be happy with what they got and Sekera and/ or Nurse may need to be.

11 May 2017 23:47:15
Trade #1:
Pittsburgh Penguins send
A) Marc-Andre Fleury

Calgary Flames send
A) Rasmus Andersson
B) Mark Jankowski
C) 16th Overall pick in 2017

Trade #2:
Pittsburgh Penguins send
A) Olli Maatta
B) Daniel Sprong

Winnipeg Jets send
A) Jacob Trouba
B) Josh Morrissey
C) Marko Dano

12 May 2017 00:45:29
The first trade is plausible in Calgary wanting Fleury, not sure they are willing to give a 1st or if the value is there.

The 2nd trade is horrible for the Jets:
The ask for Trouba alone is about equal to what you proposed from Pittsburgh. I don't see Jets trading Morrisey right now. So not very likely that Jets accept this since Maata isn't enough here.

I could see Pittsburgh inquiring about Trouba do to his nice contract, not sure they have the pieces to get the deal done though.

12 May 2017 00:47:43
Jets pass on that.

Trouba =maatta
Morissey > sprong?
Dano > nothing.

I'm guessing at the sprong to morissey value. But morissey had a good season. And was the jets best ld so they won't trade him.

12 May 2017 00:50:03
Lol your obviously a girl because your trades are organized. Good job for that. However Both proposal are too one sided to be realistic. The first one is an easy no from Cal.16 overall plus Anderson who is a good prospect for Fleury an old goalie who is still good but not worth that whatsoever. The second one is an easy no from Win. Trouba alone is worth even more then what Pitts are giving up so useless to say that Morrissey and Dano are just making this trade way too much one sided for Pitts.

12 May 2017 03:39:19
I take it you a Pittsburg fan. Totally one-sided!

12 May 2017 14:15:06
No from Calgary and no from the Jets.

A 32 year old goalie on a near $6mil contract does not get a first and two solid prospects who are both pretty much NHL ready

No from Winnipeg
Trouba > Maatta
Morrissey > Sprong
Dano > Nothing.

12 May 2017 15:56:44
Jets get hosed in the 2nd deal, easy pass from Chevy and co.

13 May 2017 18:33:36
horrible trade for the flames, jankowski led ahl rookies this year in goals and probably will make the roster next season, considering bennett wanting to play LW he could play alongside him on the 3rd line, guys like wideman and deryk are old and not very good for their prices, rasmus probably will make the team next year and if calgary can't find themselves a top 4 RHD then rasmus could play along side brodie. Fleury is getting old and carrying almost 6mill for 2 more years. calgary should just stay away from that and give gillies a chance.

11 May 2017 17:42:45
Would this work? (both value wise&rules wise)

Pittsburgh Trades;
Derrik Pouliot
Daniel Sprong
Rights to Nick Bonino (agreement to sign with LV)
2nd Round Pick

Las Vegas Trades;
4th Round Pick

*with this; LV also agrees to select Scott Wilson in the expansion draft, not Matt Muray.

I feel like with Fleurys play, i don't think hell be traded.
but i also don't think Murray will be.

so maybe Pittsburgh can part ways with some prospects and a player.

LV adds a solid NHL player in Bonino who cpuld possibly be their first line centre. they also add a former 8th overall selection in Pouliot who is a bit of a wild card, but will probably be a decent NHLer. Finally, they get Sprong, who could be a prolific player in the NHL, or he may be nothing at all.
Plus, Scott Wilson, who would be a decent energy guy with almost no money on him.

PLUS a second round pick.

i might be a bit bonkers here, and it may be better for MAF to be traded, but he/ Murray seems like such a great duo. i'd be scared to go into next season with Murray/ Jarry, two young guys, and if Murray was to be injured, what do you do?


idk. would Bonino/ Sprong/ wilson/ pouliot be enough to entice Vegas from taking Murray?

ALSO
this is like the last straw if pittsburgh can't deal MAF/ doesn't want to.

11 May 2017 19:57:56
I think that is absolutely retarded for Pitt. TBH.

11 May 2017 21:50:02
Would sacrifice fleury at that dumb price

11 May 2017 22:27:19
I don't believe fleury wants to part of a 'great duo' and I don't blame him. If the Penguins give him a reasonable place to go, he will reluctantly leave the pens rather than back up or split time. He holds the cards tho. If he refuses to waive, they may have to expose Murray. As much as I agree it's stupid from pens point, if I'm Las Vegas it would take a kings random for me not to select a 22-23 year old goalie who has a legit chance of being the best goalie in the league for a good chunk of his career. If they pass on Murray for a package like above they may regret it. When you see the spare parts most teams will leave exposed, I wouldn't pass on Murray for that.

11 May 2017 22:32:07
I'd rather buy him out then do this.

12 May 2017 01:59:19
Yeah no way LV takes that over Murray. But there's definitely a better option for Pittsburgh.

10 May 2017 08:34:34
Hello guys

This is my first post, so I hope I'm not completely off valuewise.

Adressing the Pens Needs of defence, I'd say something like this could happen. It also adresses our needs of getting rid of Fleury to protect Murray.

PIT: Fleury

NYI: Halak (Cap dump), Pulock

Let me know, what you think of this trade.

10 May 2017 09:10:34
I think the pens would like something of a little more value, especially after what he's done this playoffs, its "what you've done for me recently" you know. but definitely not way off.

10 May 2017 09:26:07
I see what you mean. I just think they prefer taking this rather than losing Murray for nothing or pay Fleury out. BTW, would Pulock be exempt from the Vegas draft?

10 May 2017 14:46:59
@Swiss

Nah, pulock needs to be protected.

10 May 2017 15:50:05
@swiss are you swiss?

10 May 2017 20:03:42
If this happened I doubt Pittsburgh would want halak by next season jarry will be better than halak.

09 May 2017 10:28:40
PIT: Olli Maatta, Daniel Sprong, Marc-Andre Fleury, Derrick Pouliot

NYI: John Tavares

Malkin - Crosby - Sheary
Guentzel - Tavares - Kessel
Hagelin - Bonino - Hornqvist
Rust - Cullen - Kuhnhackl

Powerplay 1

Kessel - Crosby - Tavares
Malkin - Letang

09 May 2017 11:52:17
Yes, because Crosby and Malkin and Kessel and Guentzel and Sheary and Hornqvist isn't enough.

Let's add John F***** Tavares to the team too, why don't we.
?

09 May 2017 12:19:50
Big ol nope from NYI.

09 May 2017 12:51:27
Lol too much from Pitts.

09 May 2017 15:48:08
''In a world where cap space doesn't exist. ''

09 May 2017 15:51:11
Of course, we already lack of (young dmen), so just trade two of our young dmen to get a third elite Center.

09 May 2017 02:39:25
CGY- sundqvist, fleury, 3rd round 2019

PIT- 16th overall 2017, ferland, Phillips, 2nd round 2018


Pittsburgh starts building a bright future as well as ferland to play with Crosby he has an amazing offensive awareness and is tough to add a physical player to Pittsburghs weak team, no matter how well fleury does these playoffs Pittsburgh will not get what they want for him

09 May 2017 04:36:41
No thanks from Calgary.

09 May 2017 06:34:29
Chill with Ferland.

02 May 2017 19:06:13
Ottawa: 1st 2017, chabot, dzingel
Pittsburgh: malkin

Pittsburgh needs help on defence. Ottawa adds a first line center

02 May 2017 19:19:26
Very easy pass from Pittsburgh.

02 May 2017 20:07:02
A weak 1st and a good prospect for a top 5/ 10 player in the league? I wish.

02 May 2017 20:28:47
Easy pass from ottawa. Screw those damn russkies we don't need them. But as player value goes ottawa adds.

02 May 2017 20:13:11
You can't be serious.
Low 1st round weak draft year pick. Young unproven Dman and a no name for Malkin?

You're teasing right?

02 May 2017 21:00:15
Big no from Ottawa.

02 May 2017 22:17:16
Really VB? Lol 😂.

02 May 2017 22:20:20
Like I get cap wise this is way off and wouldn't work but the value isn't close either.

02 May 2017 23:46:25
Would take a lot to get Malkin out of Pittsburgh. he's still a top 10 maybe top 5 guy in the league . Would take a very good capable 2nd line center, a top 4 defender, top pick and good prospect to get him . that's jus my opinion.
I like Chabot, I think Sens should hang on to him, . unless Pittsburgh would say yes to this. which they wont.

03 May 2017 00:02:05
Ohh my I meant to say Pittsburgh it would be be like. Sorry I was pretty much asleep

Huge no from pits Malkin is a star Ottawa takes this and runs when Malkin comes up Pits says Karlsson then the discussion ends.

03 May 2017 00:14:32
Hahaha ok just checking because I thought you were a fan of Geno aswell, well thanks for not thinking Sens decline lol.

23 Apr 2017 01:27:19
2012 Top 15 Re-Draft
(based on needs only)

Edmonton (1) Shayne Gostisbehere
Columbus (2) Alex Galchenyuk
Montreal (3) Filip Forsberg (centre)
New York (4) Matt Murray
Toronto (5) Colton Parayko
Anaheim(6) Morgan Reilly
Minnesota(7) Matt Dumba
Pittsburgh(8) Hamphus Lindholm
Winnipeg(9) Frederick Andersen
Tampa Bay(10) Andrey Vasilevskiy
Washington(11) Tomas Hertl
Buffalo (12) Tom Wilson
Dallas(13)Olli Maatta
Buffalo (14) Ryan Murray
Ottawa(15) Jaccob Slavin

Any corrections?

23 Apr 2017 02:10:48
Any particular reason you picked 2012?

23 Apr 2017 02:27:31
I'll take Lindholm over Dumba and Tom Wilson should be dropped to 15th.

23 Apr 2017 02:34:20
Lots of corrections. Where's Trouba and Skjei?

23 Apr 2017 03:41:30
Probably still way too early for this.

23 Apr 2017 04:03:23
Well. why Columbus would take Galchenyuk over Forsberg is beyond me. and Ghost first? i'd rather have Reilly or Parayko or Hampus Lindholm.
After this playoffs, i'd almost rather anyone on that list than Galchenyuk.

23 Apr 2017 07:32:38
Wtf are you saying man. Ghost going first? Yeah right. Pretty obvious Oilers should take Forsberg first. Doesn't even fit the needs.
Don't need another LHD we want a super star sniper who shoots right.

23 Apr 2017 08:41:19
@McJesus

And please tell me how a center fits their needs? Remeber, Forsberg was drafted as a center.

Gostisbehere will help edmonton on the PP. Puck moving defenceman is what they need. Sekera/ Klefbom is the closest thing to that and that's just not good enough.

''Going first'' It's not even going first in my re-draft. Based on needs and not on skill.

23 Apr 2017 03:37:47
Parayko is better than ghost Murray trust me from all the chatter around the Internet edm would rather have parayko than ghost.

23 Apr 2017 11:55:14
Ghost imo doesn't go first.

He broke out, and had a sophomore slump. I think that he'd be around 5/ 6/ 7 in my books, but not 1.

Lindholm is also >>> Dumba

If you count Forsberg as a centre, than Forsberg is definetly better than Galcnheyuk.

And I'd definetly take Murray, Slavin and Maatta ovee a tough guy like Wilson.

Also, wheres Jacob Trouba?

03 May 2017 15:55:00
Knowing what we know today, there's just no way Vasy isn't selected top 5 regardless of needs.

02 Apr 2017 01:05:48
To Jets: Fleury

To Penguins: Little

02 Apr 2017 09:55:11
That's not going to happen. You don't trade players like little for over payed aging goalies.

04 Apr 2017 23:30:25
I wouldn't do it from jets point either, but Fluery isn't exactly aging and overpaid. Maybe in Pittsburgh because a really good young goalie makes less. But in the grand scheme of things, he's 31 or 32 and still a good goalie making 5 mill. Here's spot of good goalies who haven't even established themselves until they're pushing 30. Cam talbot is turning 30 in a cpl months and almost done his second year as a starter.

04 Apr 2017 23:34:55
Fluery is still an upgrade in a few nets around the league, winnipegs being one of them. And if you can have a starting goalie who has shown to be capable of playing 65+ games for $5mill, you're doing alright.

11 Mar 2017 18:20:25
Pittsburgh trades Maatta, Sprong to Flyers for Ghost.

11 Mar 2017 21:55:19
Sprong had 7 points recently in a game I don't think he's getting traded lmao.

11 Mar 2017 21:55:40
And regardless I wouldn't trade mattaa for ghost after the season he's had this year.

11 Mar 2017 22:41:33
I think Ghost is going to be a 1 year wonder.

12 Mar 2017 00:51:47
Hahaha. You should change your name man. Even the real Elliot Friedman wouldn't post this garbage proposals. What an insult to Elliot himself.

14 Mar 2017 19:53:32
Maata for ghost would be a possibility. Ppl don't give maatta much thought because he's not flashy but still a very good young D. Ghost obviously has offensive upside and flare but with that is risk. This year has shown more warts than beauty in his game. 2 very different D but value to a team might not be far off. As for sprong being added, he's the 3rd 18 year old not drafted in the first round to make the NHL in 15 years (only Bergeron for Bruins and oreilly for avs did before) and he didn't make the Carolina Hurricanes or maple leafs last year. It was the pens. He didn't stay long but obviously they value him extremely high.

28 Feb 2017 18:15:48
To pit: Duchene

To col: Fleury, pouliot, fehr, 1st, 3rd.

28 Feb 2017 19:15:26
Uhhhh nah man.

28 Feb 2017 21:02:39
Don't know where 3-4 "high end" pieces are there. Pouliot isn't high end anymore, a penguins first is usually too late to be considered high, almost a second of other teams.

28 Feb 2017 21:19:19
Lol. Easy no from Colorado.

28 Feb 2017 00:01:35
Read that Pittsburgh and Washington are in a bidding war for Shattenkirk.
And that Washington is only in it to drive up the price for rivals Pittsburgh and NYR.

28 Feb 2017 02:22:16
Yeah mike commodore was saying that.

28 Feb 2017 02:38:59
Blues beat writer just said deal is done between blues caps waiting for details.

28 Feb 2017 02:43:54
Shattenkirk to Washington is already a done deal via multiple sources.

28 Feb 2017 02:53:28
Damnnnnnnnn Washington Wow.

28 Feb 2017 03:07:34
1st 2nd and a prospect.

28 Feb 2017 03:08:10
Zach Ranford, 1st 2017 and 2nd 2018 it's looking like.

27 Feb 2017 18:26:20
WPG: Stafford (50% Retained), Pavelec, Kosmachuk
PIT: Fluery

27 Feb 2017 18:18:45
DAL: Honka, Niemi (50% Retained)
PIT: Fluery

28 Feb 2017 00:29:16
Fleury apparently approached management meaning pressure might be on a little. If they can get a deal like that I think they would grab it.

27 Feb 2017 18:17:18
CGY: Elliotte, 2nd around Pick 2017
PIT: Fluery

27 Feb 2017 18:54:56
Calgary is capped out. Can't attain more Salary.

Deal is a no go.

28 Feb 2017 00:37:47
Actually ft4a, they're at $69 mill of just over 70 cap and haven't activated LTIR of ladsliav smid which would give them 3.4 million (pro-rated) more to spend this season. He has Elliott going back (2.5mill) so they can take on over 6mill in salary at the deadline without a problem. Fleury is 5.5 or 5.75 I believe? With widemans 5.25, englunds 2.9 and stones 2 mill done this year, fleury would be fine there for his last 2 seasons of the deal too.

27 Feb 2017 17:07:48
Edmonton Oilers
Kris Letang
Patric Hornqvist

Pittsburgh Penguins
Oscar Klefbom
Jordan Eberle
2018 1st Pick ( conditional )

Hornqvist has modified NTC but who knows maybe he would except a trade to Edmonton. He will be a UFA after 2018.

27 Feb 2017 19:11:18
really in what world would this make sense. Please explain.

26 Feb 2017 18:39:06
Calgary:
M.A. Fleury (2yrs @ 5.75)

Pittsburgh:
L. Bouma (1yr @ 2.2)
5th 2019



Tampa Bay:
B. Leipsic (RFA)
2nd 2018

Toronto:
J. Drouin (RFA)

26 Feb 2017 18:54:13
Horrible offers for MAF and Drouin come on man.

26 Feb 2017 19:38:51
Drouin will not be traded. And especially not for a crap offer like this.

26 Feb 2017 23:07:48
Wow. Brutal for Pittsburgh and Tampa.

27 Feb 2017 06:30:23
Pits i think will get a better offer on fleury but i don't believe the value is terribly far off because of the expansion draft. The drouin trade is trash.

28 Feb 2017 11:10:55
Id take johnson and elliot over fleury. Plus flames need bouma/ hathaway for physicality for playoffs. i'd never pull this trade.

25 Feb 2017 18:18:48
Hansen trade has to be in the works. Given his production in minimum action and his 2.5 cap hit next year i have a couple of ideas.

Van: Hansen
Pit: Sprong, condition 3rd( if pit makes it to 3rd round and Hansen plays 50% of games.)

Van: Hansen, 2018 5th
Min: Tuch

Van: Hansen
Was: Riley Barber, Stansilav Galiev, Condition pick( 3rd if Was makes 3rd round, 2nd if Was makes finals)

25 Feb 2017 18:36:14
Pitt won't do that Sprong is a top prospect.

25 Feb 2017 22:55:48
How about the other 2 trades.

26 Feb 2017 04:22:04
Tuch is also a top prospect.

26 Feb 2017 18:04:00
The price for Hansen right now is a top prospect or young player that is good.

27 Feb 2017 05:10:32
Sprong isn't a top prospect. He has upside but he isn't lighting it up and is injured.

25 Feb 2017 05:47:58
Pittsburgh: Maata, Pouliot,1st, Jarry, Kunitz
Colorado:Duchene

Colorado gets a young top 4 d, a defense prospect, Top 3 NHL goalie prospect and a cap dump

Pittsburgh gets a 35+ goalie scoring potential player when in Pittsburgh lineup


Then Edler at 50% for 2018 2nd
Edler=Maata replacement

When Healthy

Edler Letang
Cole Shultz
Hainsey Daley.

 
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