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21 Apr 2018 19:49:33
to Pittsburgh
Pacioretty (some salary retained, probably not max)
Deslauriers

to Montreal
Sprong
Sheary.

21 Apr 2018 19:52:57
nevermind they definitely do max salary retention.

21 Apr 2018 20:49:48
I think Habs can get more. and I don't want to see Deslauriers traded, he may not be a star, but he is a really good 4th liner who bring a lot of energy, some toughness and the odd clutch goal. his value however isn't measured in stats.
Patches had a bad season. but I believe he can still bring back a better return . and I think Sprong is destined to be a top scorer in his career, however at the AHL level.

22 Apr 2018 20:41:33
I agree that Patches could get more but saying Sprong his destined for the ahl is ridiculous. he's domanted every he played (of course not the nhl yet) and played at the nhl at 18 year old and played this year 8 games and had 3 points. After having a ppg in the ahl this year I think next uear as a 22 year old he could get 50+ points i'd given the chance to play in a top 6 role. That won't happrn in Pitts so i'd be all for acquiring his services and hoping for the best. Trades not terrible imo if you value Sprong properly.

31 Mar 2018 23:52:49
Ok so giving the change in the nhl leaderboards recently with buffalo being bottom team and ottawa and Arizona being tied, and the fact arizona has a much easier final 4 to 5 games than ottawa does here's something to ponder.

Arizona : Arizona 2018 1st

Ottawa : Pittsburgh 2018 1st, Ceci, Ryan, and batherson

Then.

Ottawa : gaborik

Vegas : Vegas 2018 6th

Ottawa ups their chances in lottery significantly to land dahlin or at least a couple guys who can help now.

Arizona plays it safe as if they get the 3rd best odds they are more likely to draft 5th than anything else. So the trade it for a top 6 (50 to 60 point getter) in Ryan, a solid young top 4 defenceman in Ceci, a proven splint prospect in batherson who broke out big in world juniors and junior league, plus they still get a 1st I'll be it later with pens pick.

Then. ottawa uses all the cap they saved not only to resign stone and karlsson but also bring in Tavares as well.

Current available cap space in ottawa is roughly 11 million and these moves would free up 14 million more or 19 million if MacArthur retires. That's roughly 25 to 30 million to work with which is more than enough and will leave them with roughly 5 to 7 million to spare after all 3 have been signed making melnic happy too.

01 Apr 2018 00:54:15
Omg when will you learn?
You don’t give a damn rubbish about what other teams needs
I’ll make it simple
Wanna trade your 1st for Juulsen Lehkonen Poehling plus a 2d

You need to put your self in the other teams shoes
If you post nonsense like this again then you will nevertheless learn.

01 Apr 2018 01:26:02
Wow. Dream on. These are some of the worst Ottawa biased you've posted. And that's a crazy statement.

01 Apr 2018 03:01:31
Trash.

That pick is going to be top 5, 150%. that's one of Rasmus Dahlin, Andrei Svechnikov, FIlip Zadina, Adam Boqvist and Brady Tkachuk.

Whats going to Arizona in your deal? let's see:

Pittsburghs First-
Considering Pittsburghs playoff history, that pick is more than likely going to be low twenties. If I was to make a guess, I don't think they threepeat, but I think that pick is like 28th or something. Whos there at that pick? K'Andre Miller? Akil Thomas? that's a way step down from 3rd Overall.

Bobby Ryan-
A cap dump. Get it through your head. he's not a 50-60 point guy. If he was, and wasn't a cap dump, then why would Ottawa be desperately trying to package off his salary with Karlsson in order for suitors to be able to afford Karlsson in terms of a trade package, as adding Ryan to a Karlsson only lowers Karlsson's value. Ryan is a cap dump. Please understand that and stop being biased.

Cody Ceci -
A mediocre at best dman, probably a #4 at best. Kinda similar to Nathan Beaulieu, and I've seen lots of Sens fans want his head. So I don't think he'd bring much more to the table than a 2nd, and even that would be neglected by Ryans negative value.

Drake Batherson -
A good prospect, who probably projects as a 3rd liner with upside, but is also very unknown and unproven. Certainly not enough to move up from the late rounds of the 1st to the top 5.

Basically, if Arizona proposed:
Alex Goligoski (Bobby Ryan: but a bit less bloated of a contract) + Richard Panik (Cody Ceci, except as a forward) + Ryan MacInnis (scorer at the junior level, similar to Batherson) + ARZ 2nd Round Pick (high second) for Ottawas 1st Round Pick in 2017.

Does this make any sense for Ottawa? Of course not. Similarly, the original trade is terrible for Arizona.

01 Apr 2018 12:17:01
Ok you seriously don't follow the sport do you TopShelfSlappers? If you did you'd realise the statements you made on the players involved in this proposal are completely absurd and absolutely ridiculous.

1st - yes that will be a late pick but it's still a 1st

Bobby Ryan - outside of last season dude to health issues and somewhat this season though not as bad because he's been shifted from line to line more times than we can count, he has been and will continue to be a 50 to 60 point guy, anyone with half a brain and has 2 eyes that aren't blind can go themselves to check his career stats and will see that I am right and you are wrong, take those negative value comment and put em where the sun don't shine.

Cody Ceci - is a top 3 young defenceman who still has time to improve and is valued by other teams whether you like it or not he's worth at least a mid to late 1st himself just ask Edmonton who was ready to give hall for him if not for the need of MELNICK approval.

Drake batherson - NOT PROVEN? You can't be serious? One of world junior team Canada's leading scorers and a leading scorer in his current league. How is that not proven?

Goligoski has been a failure everywhere he's been and in no way is comparable to Ryan outside of a bad contract.

Of course this makes sence for both teams ottawa dumps in needed cap to sign players they want to keep and make an attempt on a major free agent signing in Tavares while gaining more odds to land dahlin and another major draftees who can help now at a faction of the cost sent away.

Arizona adds scoring in ryan, youth and potential in batherson and the pits 1st, and a guy who can finally play number 2 on that team to oel.
Gives up the 3rd which is the most likely to get bumped to 5th or 6th as 5th is best odds due to how lottery is run.

Arizona and Vegas have the cap for these kind've contracts as well making it mot out of the realm of possibility.

Just because you or a lot of other "fans" don't like Ryan or other sens players for whatever reason don't mean you're right about them or their value!

01 Apr 2018 14:26:35
Bobby Ryan point total:
25 last season in 62 games.
33 this season in, I believe, 58 games.

Neither of those are at all close to a 50 point pace buddy. And yes he has gotten 50 points before in his career, well, Daniel and Henrik Sedin have gotten 100 before, Lupuls been PPG, Milan Michalek was solid, Dion Phaneuf was thought of for a Norris, Milan Lucic was a 60 point guy and Brandon Dubinsky was a solid shutdown 50 point centre. Everyone falls off buddy. Ryan has too. Get it through your head. He has negative value. he's never going to be a 50 point guy again, and never going to be a solid player again. And he is injury prone as well, which is another huge downside tp trading for him. And he has a 7.25 cap for what, the next, I think 4 seasons? Its ridiculous you think he has value, and then to call me out on not watching hockey because apperantky you know all.

Ceci - he may have been worth a 1st at so, e time but remember, that is the GM that traded Seguin, Hall, Boychuk and Eberle for pennys on the dollar. Even if he was worth a 1st before, he isn't worth it anymore. Its been two years and he's stagnated in growth. Certainly not worth a 1st. Maybe a mid second as i said, but that therefore counteracts bobby ryans cap dump.

Bathersom - yes. He is unproven, the WJC's don't mean s*** unless the playee actually turns into something. Look at Nic Petan and Curtis Lazar, they were WJC heros, now they're fighting for their lives as bottom 6 players. Also, he's nowhere near the top of his league in points, he's over PPG, but he's barely played 30 games this year. Get your facts straight.

And tbh, considering contract, i'd rather Goligoski than Ryan. lol.

01 Apr 2018 14:28:27
And buddy, Cody Ceci wouldn't even by number 2 on Zona, lol. OEL, Hjalmarsson, Jacob Chychurn and i'd argue Goligoski are better than Ceci. Lol.

01 Apr 2018 16:02:02
Biased Ramblo back with another window licking lopsided trade proposal.

Arizona laughs and then hangs up.

Bobby Ryan has negative value. You're wrong. Get over it.

Look at the comments under your proposal. Fans of all different teams calling it out for what it is -- a garbage, biased proposal. This is not some conspiracy against Ottawa or its players. Take off your homer glasses and come back to reality.

01 Apr 2018 17:36:51
None of those guys you mentioned are anywhere close to being better than ceci. closest one was hjalmerson when he was in Chicago penny picking off the success of guys like Keith Seabrook Campbell hossa Kane panarin byfuglien and toews, now he's a fraction of that player not worth a dime.

As for Ryan let me say it again so maybe it can get through your thick skull.

This season he's been shifted from line to line like crazy some that have chemistry some that don't how does anyone expect him to put up his regular numbers if he doesn't have a steady line combo to work with?

Last season the guy was plagued with health issues that got in the way yet with both of those season he still managed 0.6 points per game which is actually decent and still far away from negative value or goligoski value.

Now that both those seasons are out of the way look at the rest of his career, every other year his point totals were above 50 per year, stats don't lie!

As for batherson comment world juniors definitely affect value of prospect and have for years, what rock have you been living under exactly? So does their junior league performances. How do you think draft priority is determined. same thing for trade value of already drafted prospects.

01 Apr 2018 17:39:38
I’m really starting to get sick of your rubbish No bias.

01 Apr 2018 18:25:09
Dahlin> Karlsson, Stone, Batherson And Pits 1st.

01 Apr 2018 20:49:14
Okay Rambo, whatever man, the agree/ disagree ratio probably doesn't mean s*** to you, but sure.

Ryan has the value of JVR easily, and deserves a 1st Round Pick and a decent prospect.

Ceci is a top 2 dman, and has compltly found that potential. He is capable of keeping up with OEL and Josi. He certainly is comparable to a guy like Ryan Ellis.

And Drake Batherson is a top proapect who is totally guarranteed to be a top 6 forward, with the upside of Matt Barzal cause of course the WJC show everything about a player.

Yup. You're righr about everything Ramo. You truly are so qualified, and are as smart as Steve Yzerman. You deserve 0 criticsm, because you are so smart. Why don't the Senators just hire you? You'd save the franchise!

01 Apr 2018 22:50:40
The worst part is that he's serious. Posts are terrible but the explanations are even worse. Delusional a f.

02 Apr 2018 03:58:41
Rambo the next destruction artist
Ironic.

03 Apr 2018 15:29:47
Do you not know how to read or were you just born with a rock in your head?

I never claimed Ceci was a top 2 guy or was comparable to guys like josi or oel, just that he was a top 3 to 4 dman on most, if not all teams, who is still young and could still reach potential to 2 status.

And yes, Ryan's value is at least the same as jvr, as one/ two bad seasons do not define a players career. Especially a player like Ryan who has put up 50 plus points every other year has played and proved he still has it in last year's playoff run. Saying Ryan has negative value right now is the same thing as saying max domi has negative value right now but I don't see anyone jumping on that band wagon to bash domi? Why not? Domi had an outstanding rookie season but ever since he's been same point totals as Ryan's last 2 years. I'm not saying the guy is worth 7 million but any and every team in the league would be happy to give him 5 million a season for what he contributes to their team if he played for them and that does not mean he is negative value in fact quite the opposite.

No prospect is guarrenteed anything, that is why they are called prospects just like no pick is guarenteed to be number 1 overall in the new lottery format with the 3rd last in the rankings having the worst odds of all top 3 PICKS to even get a top 3 selection. That's the risk teams take on any prospect or draft pick and whether or not they will pan out.

I don't overvalued sens players but unlike you lot I don't undervalued them either. I value them for what they are worth.

23 Feb 2018 22:15:36
Brassard to the penguins for Ian Cole, Gustafson and a 1st. They are set down the middle again.

23 Feb 2018 23:46:13
Trades been rejected by NHL because they tried having Vegas retain some money on it too with creative paperwork. Apparently it’s being revised.

24 Feb 2018 03:01:01
Its finalized now. I feel like the sens lost this trade. SMH dorion

24 Feb 2018 04:50:59
Are you insane? i am happy as a clam with that return. Great trade for the Sens.

24 Feb 2018 04:57:25
Or maybee every one was right about this being a sellers market. Grabner only got a second.

24 Feb 2018 05:25:14
It’s a great trade for the sens! Brassard is good and all but in what world does a team pay that price to get a third line center. three peat for the sens though?

24 Feb 2018 05:44:26
Pens** not sens haha.

24 Feb 2018 06:08:49
Pens have a chance to three-peat but Tampa and Nashville will both do something strong at deadline.
They will be hard to beat.

24 Feb 2018 06:33:51
Did Brassard jus go from a decent 2nd line Center to best 3rd line ctr in hockey? .
Good return by Dorion. More than I thought they would get.

24 Feb 2018 16:35:21
Unbiased Jim. rewird yoir entry to ". rejected by bettman. "

I'm pretty sure he has last say in everything, even if the board of governors out vote him.

23 Feb 2018 20:36:46
Van: Edler

Pit: Sprong, Hagelin, 2nd round pick.

23 Feb 2018 21:55:10
Bruh like what.

23 Feb 2018 23:31:13
Edler makes 4.5 and Pittsburgh can’t afford that and they have been known to want to dump Hagelin for cal reasons so that makes it work.

24 Feb 2018 06:20:37
Haglin make 4.2 mill a season lol.

22 Feb 2018 21:24:13
What should the Leafs do?

Everybody has a different opinion on this, here is mine.

Stand pat at the deadline.
I know people want to win now but remember that our core has plenty of years left so don't rush it. Teams will be asking for players such as:
Marner, Nylander, Kapanen, Dermott if the Leafs go after one of the high quality names put there and in my opinion that would waste what they have been trying to do(win for many years, not just one). Teams such as Boston and Tampa are already ahead of them this year, with Pittsburgh always playoff dangerous, so let them break the farm for a chance to win this year.
Bozak and JVR WILL be gone in the off season so get something for them. Add during the off season when more players will be available for trade or Free agency.

Deadline
JVR(TOR)
for
Miller.C(VEG)

With an abundance of dman under contract for next year or RFA's, getting rid of another for a scoring winger for an extra push in the playoffs would help

Bozak.T(TOR)
for
Pilon.G, 4th-2018(WAS)

Capitals get a strong 3rd line center , Leafs get a center prospect which they don't have a lot of

Off Season
Sign
Komarov.L 2 yrs - $4 mil
Nylander.W 6 yrs - $39 mil
Carrick.C 2 yrs - $4.5 mil
Miller.C 3 yrs - $9 mil

This still leaves over $6 mil to play with.

2018-2019

Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Johnsson-?-Brown
Hyman-Gauthier-Komarov
Martin

Reilly-Millar
Gardiner-Hainsey
Zaitsev-Dermott
Carrick

22 Feb 2018 21:33:00
And. that's the problem with trading Bozak. I'd rather hold onto him for the playoff push, and maybe even resign him. He knows the system, and will be cheaper than his 4.2 million that he's making now. Plus, he's played with this team his entire career, if we make a decent offer, hell prob resign. So honestly, i'd rather keep Bozak and attempt to resign him.

With JVR, he isn't getting a dman who is an RFA (controllable asset) who has nearly the same amount of points as him. And Vegas wouldn't want to go for JVR, they have way too many forwards already.

22 Feb 2018 22:36:20
I agree with standing pat. I’m ok with a small add at center and even defense if it doesn’t cost too much. I would like it if they traded JVR if they get decent value. Trading JVR also allows Martin back in the line up, depending on what else they do. I know lots of you don’t like Martin but he is important come playoffs. I agree with TSS 100% with keeping Bozak. He is and has been very underrated for years. He plays PP, PK and is good on the draw. I don’t think they should pursue McDonagh. He is a very solid defenseman but I think the leafs would give up too much.

23 Feb 2018 01:36:27
Bozak will hit the open market. with the salary cap going up his salary will increase as well. It happens every time.

23 Feb 2018 16:31:15
I get that they want to keep Carrick but 2.5mil for. 7th D man when you have Lilj coming up. Also I would keep Bozak and JVR for a playoff push then if you lose them you lose them then you have more money in free agency.

22 Feb 2018 09:35:04
Senators Plans:

Ottawa - Erik Karlsson
Edmonton - Kailer Yamamoto + Jesse Puljujärvi + 1st Round Pick + Ethan Bear

Ottawa - Matt Duchene
Vancouver - Olli Juolevi

Ottawa - Mike Hoffman
Calgary - Jusso Valimaki + 2nd Round Pick

Ottawa - Zack Smith
Pittsburgh - 2nd Round Pick

Ottawa - Cody Ceci + Derrick Brassard
Montreal - Alex Galchenyuk + 2nd Round Pick

Ottawa - Johnny Oduya
Toronto - 2nd Round Pick

Ottawa - Bobby Ryan + 3rd Round Pick
Arizona - Max Domi

Max Domi - Alex Galchenyuk - Mark Stone
Clarke MacArthur - Jean Pageau - Jesse Puljujärvi
Ryan Dzingel - ? - Marian Gaborik
Max McCormick - Nick Shore - Magnus Paajarvi

Olli Juolevi - Tomas Chabot
Jusso Valimaki - Mark Boroweicki
Fredrik Claesson - Ethan Bear

22 Feb 2018 11:12:44
1. If were trading karl Would like Drais in return i would assume. or someone that's a sure fire NHL player.

2. No from Sens . just gave an arm and a leg for Duchene, not going to trade him right away

3.No from Sens

4.No from PIT

5. No from Sens. leaves a Hole in both our top 6 and top 4. (as shown by the "? " and the MacArthur [who doesn't play anymore] factor)

6.No from TOR, Oduya's worth a 5th at most.

7. Very much no from ARZ

8. MacArthur doesn't even play anymore.

9. that's a verrryyyy Inexperienced D core, you need at least a couple of vets. not just all rooks.

22 Feb 2018 11:40:25
Looking forward to hearing from FT4A.

22 Feb 2018 12:56:18
Not getting rid of Ryan’s contract that easily.

22 Feb 2018 15:11:56
Lol Mtl wants to get younger not older.

22 Feb 2018 16:00:02
#1 No, not a chance without cap friendly contract extension
#2 Joulevi might make a 3rd Pair D. I think Ottawa can get
more back for Duchesne
#3 No, Calgary has no 2nd round pick + Another team can and
will offer a lot more than that.
#4 Seems realistic
#5 Seems realistic
#6 Seems very realistic
#7 Think the pick needs to be upped or big Ottawa retention.

22 Feb 2018 03:42:44
3 way trade

Blues:Stasny,Thomas

Mtl:Pleky,Byron,1rd 2018, Lekonen

Pitts:Sprong

So

Mtl:Sprong

Blues:Byron,1rd 2018

Pitt:Pleky, Lekonen

22 Feb 2018 05:27:23
Surely that 1st rounders is lottery protected! Not a chance Montreal trades top draft picks++ unless a bonified top center is coming back.

22 Feb 2018 05:28:13
Dude you have problems. You Didn't Place STATSNY wiTH A team and you removed two centers (position of weaknes) for a 1st and crappy player. Stastny is worth a first by himself and thomas is not for sale.

Your make the worse props.

22 Feb 2018 05:36:14
Where did Thomas and statsny go? Lol blues pay Thomas and statsny, just cut them from their team and habs send them Byron and a first?

22 Feb 2018 07:27:09
So you say your also a Habs fan. and we give up 4 peices, including a top 5 pick and we end up with Sprong.

Are you that dummy who said he almost got the Habs GM job before they gave it to Bergevin?

21 Feb 2018 16:11:45
Tomas plekanec to the penguins is as good as done according to sources.wait and see I guess lol

21 Feb 2018 17:50:24
Could be. what ya hope we get back?

21 Feb 2018 18:25:54
Hope we get a 2nd.

21 Feb 2018 18:52:14
I would like to do this

Mtl:Chuck, Pleky, Lindgreen

Pitt: Sprong, Pouliot, Sheary.

21 Feb 2018 19:03:03
2nd would be great. Might have to take back some cap space.

21 Feb 2018 19:10:20
Unfortunately it’s probably going to be a 3rd.

21 Feb 2018 19:12:27
Colt. are you thinking Pouliot? Like as in Derrick, who is a Canuck now. ?

21 Feb 2018 19:15:51
I hope we get a 1st back Sosa lol.

21 Feb 2018 19:41:48
Colt pouliot isn’t even on the team anymore bud.

21 Feb 2018 19:42:25
Ok. Maybe this colt65 is in fact MontrealsFinest and Goldenshowers after all.

21 Feb 2018 21:07:32
I like both team not and blues.

21 Feb 2018 22:09:34
Real Colt was Blues and only Blues.

22 Feb 2018 02:50:34
No I always liked Mtl as well sosa.

22 Feb 2018 03:58:01
Yes Golden Showers you did.

19 Feb 2018 18:10:48
Phi: Toews, Crawford, Wingels

Chi: MacDonald, Lehtera, Weise, Read, Elliot, Sanhiem, Hart, 1st 2018, 1st 2019, additional second if flyers win cup in next two years

Hawks begin their rebuild, get a top goalie prospect, d prospect, 2 first, bad contracts that don't go past 3 three years, also unload toews big contract which he's not worth 10.5 but phi goes all in for the next 2 years while still keeping some youth long term, can compete with pens now

19 Feb 2018 18:35:05
ah yes. the good old 7 for 3 trade. terrific. -. -

also. huge no from Philly.

19 Feb 2018 19:53:28
The only good pieces philly is giving up is Hart, sanheim and the picks lol.

19 Feb 2018 20:18:47
I know the rest are cap related and no long term contract.

19 Feb 2018 20:39:53
Yeah but first of all Chicago can’t take on an extra 4 contracts and cap issues yeah I know where you’re going with it but those pieces are not even close to enough value to get toews lol and Chicago would never do that yenno.

19 Feb 2018 23:38:39
Toews has a big contract and his offensive numbers are not like Kane’s, we get it. But this idea that hawks are going to try to give away a guy that won them 3 cups, is only like 29-30 years old, already one of the greatest players in their history and has shown to be nothing short of a great person and captain is so dumb. It’s like early in the year when price struggled and people are talking about placing him on waivers, or trading him for a B prospect to rid them of the contract, he’s still an elite goalie and toews stilll has a ton to give. They will not trade toews, and if they ever did, they aren’t sending him along with a star goalie for a bunch of scraps, a cpl decent prospects and a cpl late firsts. Have an idea.

20 Feb 2018 01:27:33
Nicely put Jim.

20 Feb 2018 02:32:43
you can't compare price and toews too different positions and markets, also your getting to attached to your players ya its great he won 3 cups, but in a tough division its best to rebuilt or retool now they can't compete anymore for cup at most just make the playoffs so might as well get something potential good instead of having toews make 10.5 until he's 35.

20 Feb 2018 02:34:15
also if they want to retool now they have 1st round picks to get a new centre or they just rebuilt in their tough division.

20 Feb 2018 03:34:04
You forgot Philly's equipment manager!

20 Feb 2018 05:12:07
I’m not comparing price and toews as players. Didn’t think it came off like that. I’m comparing situations. Two great players that have done a ton for their respective organizations and have been rewarded financially for it. And IF they get traded it will be for a lot more than that kind of package. Neither of them are washed up, they both still have plenty of productive years left. Trading toews and Crawford just guarantees they don’t win anymore, it doesn’t put them into full rebuild mode. They would still be a mediocre team, not getting top picks unless you wanna trade kieth and Kane too and you will never win a Patrick Kane trade. Also, it’s not me being too emotionally connected to my players, don’t know how long you have been on here, but Chicago is not ‘my team’.

20 Feb 2018 15:26:35
I have to respect qwerty's concerns tho jim, i mean go down the line the hawks have a lot of guys apart of those 3 cups. i'm not saying they should trade toews, but toews, kane, keith, seabrook and crawford can't all stay if they want to get any type of rebuild done.

18 Feb 2018 18:56:16
Canucks: Tanev and hutton
Leafs: Liljigren, 1st round pick, 3 round pick and leivo

Canucks: Vanek
Penguins: 2nd round pick

Canucks: Edler and Gudbranson (Retain 50% on gudbranson and 15% on edler)
Lightning: Foote

18 Feb 2018 19:00:40
Hahahahahaha.

18 Feb 2018 21:00:00
Not a chance from Toronto lol
Probably not from the other 2 either, although the penguins one is at least in the realm.

18 Feb 2018 21:52:04
What do I say. Works for canucks
But Tampa and Toronto get screwed.

18 Feb 2018 23:35:15
Canucks yikes all around.

18 Feb 2018 19:03:57
No thanks from T.O.

18 Feb 2018 22:06:06
The Canucks have dealt 4 defensemen. Big no from Pit. They want centres.

14 Feb 2018 23:04:18
#1
The Calgary Flames send Sam Bennett to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for Max Domi.

#2
The Calgary Flames send Rasmus Andersson, Dillon Dube & 2nd Round Pick to the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for Sam Reinhart.

#3
The Calgary Flames send Curtis Lazar & Matt Stajan to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for Carl Hagelin

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - M Ferland
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Domi - M Jankowski - S Reinhart
C Hagelin - R Lomberg - G Hathaway / T Brouwer

14 Feb 2018 23:18:45
I think 1 and 3 are good. but 2nd proposal is giving up a lot of people for one player.

14 Feb 2018 23:45:23
#1 isn’t terrible but I think arizona banks on domis potential over Bennett’s at this point.

#2 I think flames are paying a steep price, but if they really believe Reinhart can turn it around, I guess could be alright.

#3 makes Pittsburgh worse going into the playoffs. Not something Rutherford would do at all. He’s always a guy to tweak and add. Not take a disappointing prospect and a depth veteran for a key part of their team (even if he’s a bit over paid)

14 Feb 2018 23:49:50
#1 . Maybe. Pizza man has some kind of pull with Arizona.
Value is probably close

#2 Sorry, No 2nd round pick for Calgary. That is property of the New York Islanders, so #2 is impossible.

#3 Laughable. Calgary's turn to try to get something useful
for Lazar. Ottawa fans can probably feel the pain
here.

15 Feb 2018 00:26:04
No from Arizona
Big no from Calgary
3rd is interesting, potentially from Pitt but idk.

15 Feb 2018 15:18:57
#1 - i think ARI would want more
#2 - meh, not bad but don't know if BUF would really want all those pieces.
#3 - nope, your stuck with Stajan.

14 Feb 2018 10:31:43
So if Brassard is being shipped, and Pittsburgh a likely destination

OTT: Brassard, Condon
PIT: Jarry, 2nd 2018, Hagelin,2nd 2019

Sens address goaltending issue, send Condon back, get additional second for taking the Hagelin contract.

14 Feb 2018 13:40:42
I like this one, not bad. PIT might need to add a little though if they want to dump Hagelin's contract.

14 Feb 2018 18:43:17
I can see this without the 2018 2nd though.

14 Feb 2018 05:03:33
Mtl trades Pacioretty(50%). 2018 2nd, 2018 4th.

nashville trades - eeli tolvanen, dante fabbro.

before anyone starts saying anything. pacioretty isn't a rental and he's on really good contract and mtl are keeping 50% of his contract and remember everyone what hanzal got 1st, 2nd, 4th.


then Mtl trades plekanec(50%), 2018 4th.

penguins trades 2018 2nd.


then Mtl drafts Tkachuk


Galchenyuk-Drouin-Sherback
Tolvanen-Tkachuck-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Danault-Byron
Deslauriers-Shaw-Hudon

Mete-Weber
Alzner-Petry
schlemko-fabbro

Benn

Price
lindgren

14 Feb 2018 05:18:44
Consider Nashville probably wants to go in I can see this trade but that is one steep price, so I also don’t see them making this.

14 Feb 2018 07:55:26
Nashville has got a young core so I can see them willing to give up 2 young promising pieces for a guy that has scored 30 plus goals the last few years.

14 Feb 2018 10:46:41
Both are top prospects, Habs would be lucky to get one of them, no chance they get both.

14 Feb 2018 13:14:25
If not gets both does guys for Patches that's a steal imo. But realisticly one of those prospect and a second or B prospect is fair. They are both A level prospect such is equal to a top rental but since Patches has another year left the second or B prsopect males it even I believe.

14 Feb 2018 15:47:12
the reasoning is that our 2018 second is almost like a late first, would it be more fair to add a 3rd on that which is close to a second.

14 Feb 2018 15:50:20
i remember when sherback wasn't a good skater now he's hella fast and and an amazing skater so vilardi will prob learn.

14 Feb 2018 16:07:56
Retaining 50% on patches ups his value so realistically he should get those 2 A prospects no problem. Imagine a 30 goal scorer for less than 2.5 million, not bad.

14 Feb 2018 18:52:24
I wouldn't give yo Tolvonen alone for Patches let alone adding Fabbro. Think of the age gap. Ten or so years of Tolvonen or one year of Patches. I'm going with Tolvo.

15 Feb 2018 22:08:57
U wouldn't trade tolvanen straight up for pacioretty?

Might wanna get that checked.

16 Feb 2018 01:07:24
I agree with yup, nashville definitely shouldn't trade tolvanen for a year and a half of old patches that they don't need.

16 Feb 2018 03:04:26
This is brutal for nashville. Maybe if Pacioretty was scoring like a 30 goal scorer would this make sense. but even still. Nashville top 2 prospects for one year of a a guy slumping is a huge no from the preds.
1St2018, 2nd 2019 plus aberg for pacioretty.

08 Feb 2018 04:04:19
Habs trade Poehling, McCarron, 2nd 2018 and 2nd 2019 to Arizona for Domi.

Habs trade Plekanec (50% retained) to Pits for 2nd 2018.

At Draft Pacioretty (signed on extension), Shaw (25% retained) and Brooks for Hanifin.

08 Feb 2018 16:14:44
arizona fan here wouldn't give up poehling for domi u crazy.

08 Feb 2018 16:43:02
Domi. not worth that package.

09 Feb 2018 02:21:06
Domi is good and I would like to add him to either one of my teams mtl or blues but at a reasonable cost. And Phoeing could very well be are next top line center and even if he just become a solid second line center he would be worth it imo. Domi is imo good secondary scorer with means he's not a top line center but more of a second line winger or third liner center. He is however still young and could be a good gritty second line center lien Kadri. Like I said if Ari wants to trade him not should be I the race but not give up are only good center prospect for him. Maybe Julsen, Sherback and a second? Two B prospects and a second rd pivk with will be low for a decent second line center with good second line center potential. Is this fair?

06 Feb 2018 18:32:14
Mtl: sherry + sprong + 1st+

Pittsburgh: Pacioretty + pleckanek(50% salary)

That what Bergevin ask for. What do you think?

06 Feb 2018 19:20:42
In my opinion it is close to what bergevin is asking yes, but i standby on my original thought that patches stays a hab another year. There is other wingers available that could be had for less for teams looking to make a run, the habs have no reason to let go of patches this soon without getting back what they're asking for (wont happen)

06 Feb 2018 19:38:13
Boy. I hope not.

06 Feb 2018 20:49:56
montreal is not going to get what they want for patches. I agree with facelift39 - will be kept till next year. Also if they are going to go all in if JT makes free agency, they will want someone for him to play with.

05 Feb 2018 15:52:30
PIT: Jarry
ARI: Domi

Just a base for a trade. Arizona gets a good young goalie. Pens add a young top 6 winger.

05 Feb 2018 19:31:28
I'm aware that more would be involved likely from the Pens side because Jarry's numbers are good, but it was a small sample size.

04 Feb 2018 16:04:27
Via Craig Button:

OTT: Pageau

PIT: one of Jarry or Gustavsen

PIT has two young goalies behind matt murray and need a third line Centre and OTT needs goalies

personally i like it

04 Feb 2018 16:19:52
just to clarify. this was a suggestion from button. not an actual trade.

04 Feb 2018 16:30:17
Pageau isn’t much of an upgrade over Sheahan.

04 Feb 2018 16:45:48
Well. Xcing that's completely wrong.

04 Feb 2018 16:59:57
Well Pageau is an upgrade over Sheahan, Pageau is very underrated and a good third line center.

Watching a Pens game the other day the pens guys were saying Sheahan is now looking better since they put this Geuntzel-Sheahan-Kessel line together. And that they may be happy with him as a third line center and could look for a fourth line center now, Like Letestu, who they have been interested in for a while they said. Pens lines when Sheary and Hornqvist come back are very very nice. If you slot letestu in, They look scary to any team in the playoffs I think.
Sheary Crosby rust
Hagelin Malkin hornqvist
Geuntzel Sheehan Kessel
Kuhnackl letestu reaves
Dumoulin Letang
Matta Shultz
Cole Oleksiak
Murray.

A few days ago pens big three had unreal stats, playing on separate lines. In 13 games Crosby had 23P. Malkin 23P. Kessel 20. Pens are looking scary again.

04 Feb 2018 17:02:55
But I myself think they should go after Pageau. Put him third line. And move Sheahan to fourth. I wouldn't give up Jarry tho, Unless Condon is coming back. I like condone a lot myself.
Pageau, Condon for Jarry and 5th?
Jarry becomes Sens hopeful future starter or what? I'm not sure Sens goalie situation behind Anderson at the moment. But if they are giving up Pageau I would think it would be for one of those younger goalies they see potential possible starter quality in.

04 Feb 2018 17:15:38
I stand by my statement that Pagaeu isn’t much of an upgrade over Sheahan. Pageau is only one year younger but doesn’t have as many points despite averaging more ice time. Also Sheahan has better advanced stats event though he starts nearly 70% of shifts in the D zone. Not to mention he’s been hot lately since the Pens shuffled up the lines. If I was the penguins I’d rather keep those goalies cause it’s not much of an upgrade. (PS Pageau also makes more money)

04 Feb 2018 18:30:39
Xcing, Pageau's opposition every single night is the other teams top line. most nights playing against Mcdavid, Crosby. etc. Obviously Pageau is having a down year. you also have to look at who they're playing for and who they're with.

Ottawa - 29th
Smith - Pageau - Pyatt

Pittsburgh - 14th
Guentzel - Sheahan - Kessel

Also, Pageau is absolute money in the playoffs.

04 Feb 2018 18:32:08
And again. this isn't my opinion or suggestion, this is from a professional who does this rubbish for a living . Craig Button.

06 Feb 2018 23:26:39
Ottawa don't need a goalie especially not for pageau.

04 Feb 2018 08:53:51
Pittsburgh: Hutton, Vanek, 2nd, 4th


Vancouver: Maata, 1st


Close? Nucks need more young D

What do y'all think?

04 Feb 2018 05:54:58
according to craig button of tsn, ottawa could possibly trade with pittsburgh for a goalie. their suggested trade was the following.

Ottawa: pageau
Pittsburgh: gustavsson or jarry

so my question is do you guys think this is realistic? also what one do you think would be closer? who would add?

04 Feb 2018 09:25:53
Yeah, maybe Condon gets involved too so Pittsburgh has a reliable backup for Murray.

02 Feb 2018 02:02:32
Ott: 2nd and 3rd round pics
Pit: J. G. and Dion

Pit gets cheap 3rd line centre for next 3 years but swallows Dions contract.

02 Feb 2018 02:09:15
Cap hit makes it impossible.

02 Feb 2018 02:38:53
Lol this is dumb sorry. No from Pitt. If there was a trade for just JG maybe but not this.

02 Feb 2018 04:26:58
Yes and yes from Pitt.

02 Feb 2018 05:22:04
Lol. Pitts says no
Take out Phanuef and maybe.

03 Feb 2018 10:12:37
Cap hit doesn't make anything impossible. If spezza can find a trade destination like he did from ottawa to Dallas without retention and more term and dollars on his contract than Pheneuf has now then there is no reason they can't do the same with Phaneuf. get over it people!

 
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