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17 Sep 2014 11:10:38
Second in a series of 6 moves:
Buffalo: Chris Stewart, Luke Adam & Phil Verone (Rochester Amerks top two scorers)
Pittsburgh: 2015 1st

stanleycup2019


17 Sep 2014 17:17:49
the pick would have to be conditional on stewart signing I think, if not I can't see PIT giving up its 1st with no assurance of that.

Shankar


If it's conditional it should be a 2nd if he doesn't sign.

thejazz97


Thanks for the feedback. Remember any PIT 1st is going to be a very late (20-30) and with Stewart in the line up probably one of the last 4. The trade was actually proposed by MG69 and it received more positive replies than this post. Even with the above feedback, I think my proposed trade is fair to both PIT and BUF.

stanleycup2019


18 Sep 2014 15:44:56
IMO the trade is fair as is. The penguins get a very valuable depth/role player in Stewart which is much needed by the pens who NEED to make it deep this year. I think Stewart helps them to do that.

Leafs_4_life



 

 

16 Sep 2014 17:49:27
PIT: 1st and conditional picks
BUF: Stewart, Adams, and Verone
*As suggested by stanleycup2019 with my addition of conditional picks.

PIT: Dupuis, Bennett, Depress, and Conditional 2016 1st
WPG: Kane
*May be a stretch. But Jets get an establishef two eay RW, a young forward who can play both wings who has showed signs of becoming a great secondary scorer, a solid young lefty dman, and possibly a conditional pick depending on how Kane performs. He is out of their conference and they get good key players to help now and in the future.

PIT: Scuderi
NYI: 2nd or 3rd
*Good vet dman for a young dcore. Adds stability on Isles back end and clears cap for the Pens.

Lines:
Kunitz-Crosby-Stewart
Kane-Malkin-Hornqvist
Spaling-Sutter-Downie
Carcillo*-Goc-Comeau
Extras: Adams and Megna
*Assuming Carcillo gets signed

Martin-Letang
Maatta- Ehrhoff
Dumoulin/Harrington/Pouliot-Bortuzzo
Extra: one of either Dumoulin, Harrington, and Pouliot

Fleury- Griess

Opinions? Makes the Pens a bigger, faster, stronger, and better team. Great depth down the lineup. Trades address needs for the other teams involved IMO.

MG69


I think Tim Murray would like the idea of getting another 1st (probably a very late one if not #29 or 30). Just for clarification it is Luke Adam who is a center and was the Amerks #2 scorer, Mark Adams is a low rated D-man.

stanleycup2019


Wpg easily says no

el troubadour


Auto correct on the phone -_-

MG69


PIT:
Dupuis 34 years old not much time left in his career,
Bennett 22 years old and only played 47 NHL games,
Depress 23 years old and only played 85 NHL games,
Conditional 2016 1st probably a 20 - 30 round.
Where is the value?
WPG:
Kane

stanleycup2019



 

 

12 Sep 2014 19:07:15
PIT: Bennett
BUF: Stewart
*More involved?

PIT: Dupuis
CAR: Nemisz and a 2nd
*Gives Canes help on the RW. Pens add a a big body player.

PIT: Scuderi and a 4th
NYI: Donavon

Lines
Kunitz-Crosby-Stewart
Kapanen-Malkin-Hornqvist
Spaling-Sutter-Downie
Carcillo-Goc-Comeau
Extra: Nemisz and Adams

Martin-Letang
Maatta-Ehrhoff
Depress-Bortuzzo
Extra: Donavon

Fleury-Greiss

MG69


Since Bennett was a 1st round pick, Murray posits his counter offer:
PIT: 2015 1st
BUF: Stewart and either Luke Adam or Phil Verone or both (Rochester Amerks top two scorers)

stanleycup2019


So for a 1st the Pens would possibly get three players @stanleycup2019? Just want to clarify to make sure I am reading it correctly. If that is the case I would definately agree with doing that deal if it could be made.

MG69


@MG69 Chris Stewart, Phil Verone, Luke Adam for Pittsburgh 2015 1st would work for me, another 1st round pick (probably 20-30) for Murray to play with.

stanleycup2019


Totally agree with stanleycup2019

benn14


Honestly if that deal could happen it would be great for the Pens. They lack forward prospect depth. Conditional picks going back to Buffalo on top of the 1st depending on if Stewart resigns; and how Adams and Verone perform?

MG69



 

 

11 Sep 2014 12:02:29
PIT: Rob Scuderi D,& 3rd round pick

For

ARI: Chris Summers D & Jordan Szwarz RW

VanCanucksFan22



 

 

11 Sep 2014 00:43:56
Penguins early season moves

Pens need to go back to their system of stacking up at centre and Big Joe wants out of San Jose to win a cup.

TO SJS: Sutter, Scuderi, 2nd 2015, 2nd 2016
TO PIT: Thornton

This is similar to what VAN got for Kesler, and he is younger and signed to a better contract.
____________________
TO CAR: Dupuis
TO PIT: 2nd 2015

Right now Carolina Hurricanes second line RW is Pat Dwyer. Dupuis gives them a better option playing with former teammate Jordan Staal.
_________________
Sign Carcillo 1yr/850k

LINES:
Kunitz-Crosby-Downie (or Kapanen)
Bennett-Malkin-Hornquist
Spaling-Thornton-Kapanen (or Downie)
Comeau-Goc-Carcillo
EX. Adams, Sill

Maata-Ehroff
Martin-Letang
Depres-Pouliot
ex. Bortuzzo, Dumoulin

Fleury
Greiss

SPECIAL TEAMS
PP1-Crosby, Kunitz, Hornquist, Malkin, Letang

PP2-Kapanen, Bennett, Thornton, Ehroff, Pouliot

PK1-Spaling-Downie-Maata-Martin

PK2-Goc-Carcillo-Depres-Letang

Im AqUaMaN


San Jose says no

Drownedfish


No way thornton waives his ntc for pit

benn14


Actually Thornton said he would accept a trade to a condender. Pittsburgh certainly falls into that category, but with his vision and passing ability he belongs at center which is a problem because same goes for Sid and Geno and I just can't see Joe playing 3rd line center. Geno or Joe would have to play wing.

HockeyGodsGift


Thorton said he will only go to Chicago, LA, or Anehiem and I don't think Pitt is even at the top of his list. Especially with what they've done this offseason.

Bruins1737


Ill give up a 2nd round pick for Dupuis anytime

gis1838



 

 

08 Sep 2014 23:53:56
According to a source Thornton will only accept a trade to a cup-contending team. These teams were stated as Los Angeles, Chicago, Anaheim, and St.Louis. Might have been one more team. Only western teams though, he wants to keep his family down south.

The only real fit within these clubs would be Chicago, but the trade would be interesting with Chicago's cap space.

Personally Thornton is staying put, due to the high cap hit, and lack of trade partners.

Marleau is the more likely to be traded. Boston looks like a fit, along with Montreal, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Vancouver, Tampa Bay and possibly the Maple Leafs. Marleau has many more possible destinations other than the ones I listed. Comment possible trade for Marleau?? Thanks guys

JF12


09 Sep 2014 17:38:12
for his production thornton doesn't have a big controct at all, its actually pretty good value. anyways, I hthink if one goes both will end up leaving, not to the same team, but in the same time period.

Shankar


09 Sep 2014 19:56:31
Marleau to Van for Burrows, Shinkuruck, Markstrom and a 3rd.

Ace


Mtl- Eller 2nd pick2015 Moen

SJ- MArleau 35 with a 6. 666 3 year contract who choke in playoff

Eller can be a good 3rd line centerwith a potential of 40 to 50pts a years
And he clutch in playoff

gis1838



 

 

06 Sep 2014 04:28:01
Pittsburgh opening roster:

Everybody who follows pittsburgh knows that they made a step in the right direction by strengthening their bottom six. But their last addition of Carcillo after hopefully a great preseason would put the icing on the cake!

Sign: Carcillo 1yr/800k

Trade: Dupuis to Minnesotta for Adam Gilmour and a third round pick 2015

Lines:
Kunitz-Crosby-Kapanen
Bennett-Malkin-Hornquist
Spaling-Sutter-Downie
Comeau-Goc-Carcillo
Ex. Sill, Megna

Martin-Letang
Määtä-Ehroff
Depres-Dumoulin
ex. Harrington

Fleury and Greiss battle it out early season for starting job.

How many points do you think this team gets this season?

I am guessing 55-22-5 for 115pts!

Anything wrong with the trade? Minnesota does not have many RW players and they could use a guy like Duper. Cap is no issue.

I guess another team could be SJS for Freddie Hamilton?

Im AqUaMaN



 

 

01 Sep 2014 18:06:37
chara should go it can help our cap situation and get a good return something like

to buf: chara kelly paille 2015 4th
to bos: gorges and gionta + prospect

or

dal: chara kelly paille
bos: hemsky daley +prospect

or

edm: chara kelly 2015 4th
bos: fayne purcell

or
next 2 are stretches

lak: chara paille kelly 2015 2nd
bos: gaborik greene

or
nyr: chara marchand kelly 2015 3rd
bos: mcdonogh nash

or

pit: chara kelly 2015 3rd
bos: ehroff dupios

or

sjs: chara, marchand
bos:marleau, burns

or

stl: chara kelly
bos: shattenkirk tarasenko

or

tbl:chara 2015 1st 2016 5th
bos: callahan

or

van: chara kelly 2015 3rd
Bos: edler, burrows

that it lmk what u think

jtallas16


That rangers trade.lol

Drownedfish


You really don't like chara

Cd1


So you're saying that Callahan is worth more than shattenkirk and tarasenko combined?

SuperUnbiasedFan


Superunbiasedfan

i agree more should be added to shattenkirk and tarasenko deal but I think tbl is more unwilling to part ways with callahand than stl is with tarasenko and shattenkirk

jtallas16


Why would you want to trade your captain and best defenceman when you can just trade Boychuk and be fine? W/O Chara, Boston doesn't even make the playoffs.

HockeyGodsGift



 

 

31 Aug 2014 20:40:08
PENS EARLY SEASON MOVES:

Invite Dustin Penner to camp.

If he does well then he would be on the top pairing with Kunitz-Crosby, otherwise we place Kapanen there.

Keep in mind that Mike Johnston stated that Derrick Pouliot, although a full two weeks behind Maata in recovery, will most likely be ready for training camp. Therefore, they will both be ready for puck drop on Oct. 9 vs ANA.

Kunitz---Crosby---Penner/Kapanen
Bennett---Malkin---Hornquist
Spaling---Sutter---Dupuis
Comeau---Goc---Downie
ex.Sill, Adams

Martin---Letang
Maata---Ehroff
Pouliot---Dumoulin
ex. Scuderi, Despres

Fleury and Greiss will fight for #1 position.

PP1:
Kunitz and Hornquist swapping in front of net, Crosby on half boards
Letang and Malkin on the point

PP2:
Hornquist in front of net, Sutter and Kapanen on half boards
Pouliot and Ehroff on the point

PK1: Sutter---Spaling
Martin----Maata
PK2: Goc---Downie
Letang---Dumoulin

The pens will be a much more physical team this year who will be willing to give the body.

Mike is a coach who can make decisions on the fly and adjust his lines mid game in order to take advantage of certain situations.

Im guessing that they go 55-20-7. They have built a team that will survive even if they are hit with a plague of injuries.

Im AqUaMaN


Wow Scudari is already a HS? What a bad signing

Charles Xavier



 

 

30 Aug 2014 17:55:11
tomas plekanec, micheal bournival, Zach fucale to pitts for pascal dupuis, Brandon sutter and Tristan jarry

helps solve Pittsburgh cap trouble and Crosby doesn't have to play against plekanec anymore which he hates.habs are deep at center and can improve their right wing position yes sutter can also play right wing.

hab.


Pittsburgh wins that's big time, habs say no

JF12


What about adding a first from Pittsburgh and a 2nd from montreal
dupuis,sutter,jarry 1st 2015 to montreal for plekanec,bournival,fucale 2nd 2015

hab.



 

 

30 Aug 2014 16:49:27
Prospect Trade

PIT: Simon Despres

CGY: Sven Bartschi

Calgary's management was disgruntled with Bartschi's play last year and they could possibly look to trade him.

Pittsburgh trades Despres since they have Maata, Poliout, Harrington, Samuelsson and Dumoulin as other good young defense prospects. And they are in need of a young forward prospect.

hockeynut12


Great trade IMO

JF12


30 Aug 2014 19:13:12
pretty solid

Shankar


Good idea it makes a lot of sense to me

Mr_enlightened


Certainly a decent trade, but I don't think Calgary is ready to give up on Baertschi yet.

Chirp



 

 

30 Aug 2014 16:19:05
Prospects Trade

PIT: Brian Dumoulin, 2016 3rd

TBL: Brett Connelly

Pittsbugh has a surplus of defensive prospects and is really lacking on forwards prospect. Plus Connelly is most likely nhl ready and has the potential to be a top 6 forward in the right situation.

Tampa Bay has a lot of young nhl ready forwards and Connelly is most likely not going to get a shot in the top 6. Dumoulin is ready to be a 5 or 6 dman and has potential to be a top 4 defenseman.

hockeynut12


30 Aug 2014 17:05:13
Tampa doesn't really need another defensemen, but I'd to it since we get the additional pick

Draisaitl_94


Good post but I think it's more like a 5th round pick going to Tampa bay

Mr_enlightened


Or Despres straight up for Connelly?

Datsik_91



 

 

30 Aug 2014 03:55:23
Pit: Kunitz, Bennett and a 1st 2015

Wpg: Kane

steamer


30 Aug 2014 08:08:22
Why would PIT give up all that?
I really like Kane, but it's kind of unlikely that he will find even better chemistry with Crosby than Kunitz.
So why trade Kunitz and a good prospect and a 1st in a good draft?
Only pro is that Kane is younger.

Draisaitl_94


Kane isn't only younger, his ceiling is waaay higher than Kunitz or Bennet could ever hope to reach. Every other Kane post you say "not even close" This is fair value especially considering the 1st will probably be 25-30. Trycreating a post once in a while instead of just dumping on everyones I deas Draisaitl

HockeyGodsGift


I apologize for that last one. Feel like a turd after fighting with the ol lady this morn. Shouldn't take it out on anyone here. Chirp is supposed to be our rude dude lol.

HockeyGodsGift


30 Aug 2014 16:06:56
I think if you change the 1st to 2016 or make it a 2015 2nd

hockeynut12


30 Aug 2014 16:09:53
Also, we need Bennett since he is still on a cheap contract and we don't have many other promising young forwards.

hockeynut12


Wow good on you hgg.its hard to hold ones self accountable. It's so much harder to come up with a reasonable trade idea then it is to dump on them and I don't remember the last time draisaitl posted one.

Drgonzo


I actually thought people would be saying no from Wpg, due to Kunitz's age , Bennett is a good young player but I doubt he'll be as good as Kane and a late 1st. I also disagree, I think Kane will have better chemistry with Crosby and Malkin than Kunitz.

steamer


30 Aug 2014 17:57:31
If TOR or MON or whoever tries to trade for Kane on this site would give the pieces PIT gives here, I'd never say its not enough.
That would be 2015 1st, good prospect (Gauthier for the Leafs or Scherbak for the Habs) + a player putting up Kunitz's numbers.
No problem then, go ahead, I won't complain bout that.
But when I see Franson, Reimer and 3rd for Kane, that's just a bad deal and nothing else.
Btw: I did post a lot trades a while ago, normally you should be able to see my last 5 by clicking on my username,I guess.

Draisaitl_94


Who suggested a franson,reimer,3rd round pick for johansen. I didn't see that one.oh I get it,you made up a example that is not comparable to what has actually been posted recently.very clever draisaitl.

Mr_enlightened


01 Sep 2014 18:10:01
I did. And it doesn't matter who exactly it was, there were numerous trades of Johansen to the Leafs (or habs) for a joke of a return.

Draisaitl_94



 

 

29 Aug 2014 15:50:05
PIT: Paul Martin, Brandon Sutter, and 2015 conditional 3rd (becomes 2nd if Martin doesn't resign)

SJ: Patrick Marleau

San Jose is looking to possibly trade Marleau and they get a top 2/3 defenseman, great 3rd line center with 2nd line potential and a draft pick in one of the greatest drafts in years.

Pittsburgh gets a veteren top 6 winger that they need and a good goal scorer

PIT lines:
Kunitz-Crosby-Marleau
Bennett-Malkin-Hornqvist
Downie-Spaling-Dupuis
Megna-Goc-Comeau
Extra:Sill

Letang-Maata
Ehrhoff-Despres
Bortuzzo-Scuderi
Extra:Samuelson

Fluery
Greiss

hockeynut12


I think both teams do that trade. Great proposal

JF12



 

 

19 Aug 2014 22:41:05
To Nashville: John Moore, 3rd
To NY Rangers: Colin Wilson

To Edmonton: The Rights To Brandon Sutter, 2nd
To Pittsburgh: Nail Yakupov

To Carolina: 1st
To Pittsburgh: Jiri Tlusty, 6th

To Ottawa: Sergei Gonchar, Cody Eakin, 2nd
To Dallas: Bobby Ryan

To Boston: Evander Kane
To Winnipeg: Brad Marchand, Johnny Boychuk

Jordiebenn


I like that Boston trade

Bruins1737


20 Aug 2014 12:25:25
Sutter is already signed, so rights to is wrong.
1st is too much for Tlusty
And Kane is worth more, Boychuk is basically useless for WPG since WPG isn't in win now for this season and Boychuk is a FA at years end

Draisaitl_94


Not enough for Yak or Ryan

Charles Xavier


I like the idea of Yakupov having a change of scenery. Pitt would have to give up something else though.

THEGR81


The Ryan proposal makes me sick. We DON'T need another centre.

Nova x 65


How bout
yak for sutter and pouliot?

and

Ryan for olesiak and a 1st

Jordiebenn


21 Aug 2014 00:50:50
Boston trade. take away one or the other and throw in a pick. maybe. Ottawa politely declines their trade. They don't need or want Gonchar.

seabass2011


Wouldn't want to give up Poulliet plus he has more value right now because he won chl d-man of the year

Penguins8771



 

 

19 Aug 2014 21:49:48
To Calgary: Marcel Goc
To Pittsburgh: 3rd, Conditional 5th (If Goc Resigns)

To Toronto: Christopher Higgins, Jannik Hansen, 2nd or 3rd
To Vancouver: Peter Holland, Petri Kontiola

Jordiebenn


Goc would be a good fit in Calgary but Toronto doesn't have the cap room and lots of third line wingers.

Drgonzo


Nucks decline. It would be the leafs adding the pick if anything

Charles Xavier


20 Aug 2014 14:54:19
Leafs decline.

Holland is showing to be a very talented young C which the leafs need. We know nothing about Kontiola and he could be a very good #3 C for us this year. I'm pretty sure the leafs won't trade those players to gamble on two older bottom 6 players that we already have too many of.

Stammer2Leafs2016


Higgins is 31 and Hansen is 27 not exactly old? And they have both proven to be very serviceable players who can jump up and down your lineup and can play in every situation.

Charles Xavier


20 Aug 2014 17:56:08
Canucks Decline.

Holland: 17 points in 68 games.
Kontoila: hasn't played an NHL game since 08.

Hansen: 151 points in 389, +34.
Higgins: 293 points in 601.

Im pretty sure the Canucks won't trade 2 vets for 2 players with a combined 22 points.

Holland and Kontiola can both turn out to be busts. Higs and Hansen are both NHL regulars.

Leafs would have to throw in a first rounder as well, and the Canucks would drop their 2nd or 3rd.

To Toronto: Higgins, Hansen
To Vancouver: Holland, Kontiola, 1st 2015.

Ace


20 Aug 2014 18:03:43
@Charles Xavier


I never said they were old, I said they were older (than Holland and Kontiola)

Stammer2Leafs2016


Holland is signed for about 800 k per for next two years then rfa.hes got some potential the leafs should keep him

Mr_enlightened


No thanks from toronto ace.toronto doesn't need these players and they don't want to overpay

Drgonzo


I know I posted this but a 1st in 15 u on weed?

Jordiebenn


20 Aug 2014 23:24:20
@Ace You obviously don't realize how much that Leafs first rounder is worth

habsfan25


That's a finish your drink! GNG

madsen29


You don't trade a 1st for a couple average players.

Leafs17


Ace your gone by. Maybe the top pick in 2015 for garbage. You know absolutely nothing about hockey

leafs1967



 

 

19 Aug 2014 21:18:30
Bunch of trades I thought of:

CHI:
Leddy

NYI:
4th
Hickey


TOR:
Reimer
Clarkson
Biggs
4th

SJ:
Wingels
Niemi
6th


VAN:
Hansen
Richardson

DET:
Abdelkader
4th


PHI:
Lecavalier
Read
Coburn

CGY:
Granlund
Brodie
Colborne
2nd


TBL:
Killorn
Panik
Morrow

WPG:
Cormier
Tangradi
Halischuk
6th

PIT:
Letang
Dupuis
7th

MIN:
Coyle
Brodin
Ballard
Brodziak

thejazz97


20 Aug 2014 04:07:10
Id do the leafs san jose one in a heart beat, but would never happen

Beleaf


^ why would the leafs want niemi?

Oilers_11


20 Aug 2014 12:30:11
Can someone explain the point of the Lightning trade to me?
Bolts give up two good young pieces in Panik and especially Killorn and a solid veteran in Morrow for getting back 3 players that are between 4th liners and AHL?
WTF?

Draisaitl_94


20 Aug 2014 14:58:07
@Oilers_11

You're missing the real piece of the puzzle-- Clarkson gone!!

Who cares what we get back as long as he's gone. Niemi would replace Reimer and could teach Bernier a thing or 2. Biggs is a bust, 4th rounder has minimal value and I'd take wingels over Clarkson any day.

Stammer2Leafs2016


20 Aug 2014 15:57:24
^ur name is stupid, but you're totally right

Draisaitl_94


20 Aug 2014 16:37:01
^its not that I want niemi, I don't want clarkson, that trade would be great for the leafs, just flip niemi for a pick

Beleaf


@Draisaitl94 Lightning is above the cap. This trade would get them below it.

thejazz97


In fact, most of these trades are because of cap space

thejazz97


Mattias ohlunds contract won't count towards Tampa bay's cap so they actually have some cap space

Drgonzo


20 Aug 2014 19:22:48
@thejazz97:
two things:
1. Lightning are like 1.9M over the cap right now, but they have yet to LTIR Mathias Ohlund and it carries 9 dmen, at least 1, prolly 2 will be sent down, so after this, they will nearly 3M under the cap, so no need to move any salaries.
2. IF the Lightning would have to get under the cap, SY sure would fine a better deal than this one, or he just would not have signed Morrow.

Draisaitl_94


@Draisaitl_94 Fair enough.

thejazz97


Hansen is one of the best all o' round players in the NHL and still young!

madsen29



 

 

17 Aug 2014 00:39:25
Okay, did Winnipeg, now for Ottawa.

To Pittsburgh - Bobby Ryan
To Ottawa - Sutter, Pouliot, and 2015 1st

The Penguins are desperate to find someone to play with Malkin now that Neal is gone. Thier window to win will start closing in a couple years and the west is just getting stronger. Ryan has one year left on his contract and would possibly be happy to consider a big money extension to play with superstars rather than explore UFA. Rutherford will have cap issues but he has time to work something out. For Ottawa, they will lose Ryan to UFA so should have a chance to get what the Canucks were after for Kessler.

To Chicago - Phillips, 2015 2nd from Dallas
To Sens - Hjalmarsson

Chicago gets a great Dman for playoff hump with still 2 years on contract, and about 2 million in salary cap relief. Sens get steady Dman with lots of affordable term left. Sens D is set.

To Minnesota - Anderson
To Sens - Neiderreiter and Gustafsson

Wild have bad luck with goalies. They get one to help them compete now and develop Kuemper. Sens gamble on some scoring and get a back up with some potential

Ok, rip in!

Tunnel_rat


IMO they all favor the sens, one is worse then the others but what can u ask for? Everyone has some sort of bias that's why I refrain from posting habs rumors.

Soobydoo


17 Aug 2014 07:29:22
Think so too.
Sens get the better end of all deals.
They are not terribly one-sided, but its always a bit much going back to the sens, considering Ryan will be an UFA, Philips is like a million yrs old and Anderson did struggle with both health and play last season.

Draisaitl_94


Way too much for Ryan (UFA 2015)

Sutter is going to be a +40 point man and Pouliot is their future in defense

domi_87


Pitts/Ott trade is decent. I think that one has legs because Sutter is a good addition and Pouliot looks like a solid prospect, and the 1st will likely be pretty late next year. For the Pens, they'd get a great winger for Malkin or Crosby. Damn, with either player they'd have a runaway hit on their hands. Personal bests would happen easily for Ryan.

The other two trades are pretty damn bad tho.

Chirp


Oh my word that trade for Ryan is very bad and its not even the worst trade in the deal. Why would the hawks trade Hjalmarson for a guy that a lot of sens think shouldn't even be on their opening night roster and a 2nd?

Charles Xavier


We don't need a centre and we don't need defensemen. We need a top 6 or a top line winger. Why would we trade what we need away for players we don't need?

Nova x 65


I'm not too sure, I think Ottawa has needs all over the place, although I think you're right about the big hole on the right side. Problem is finding a top 6 scoring winger that someone will part with for Ryan. Maybe see if a package around McArthur could get Marchand out of Boston that could work. I think if the Sens got Sutter in a Ryan deal, they could slot him in behind Turris, drop Legwand to center the 3rd line, and move Zibanejad to RW on the 1st or second line. The defence is in better shape, and the Chicago trade was the most far-fetched IMO, maybe that deal has to be sweetened to include a solid prospect (not Lazar).

Tunnel_rat


It's hard to trade a guy like Spezza, not get a top 6 center in return, and feel that this position is a team strength. Also Charles Xavier, I love your passion but I'd love to hear a bit more narrative to go with your critique about the Ryan trade. The devil is in the details!

Tunnel_rat


No from Pittsburgh, they need to stop trading the few good young assets they have for rental players IMO.no from Chicago value is not even close IMO no from Minnesota because stone cold says so

Mr_enlightened



 

 

14 Aug 2014 15:24:36
I think Evander Kane would look great playing LW with Evgeni Malkin.

WNG: Evander Kane, Dustin Byfuglien
PIT: 1st Round Pick 2015, Scott Harrington, Beau Bennett, Marc-Andre Fleury, 3rd Round Pick 2016

(I'm having a hard time with the value and if you guys could provide what needs to happen that would help :)

Penguins Top 6

Kunitz-Crosby-Byfuglien
Kane-Malkin-Dupuis

Or

Kunitz-Crosby-Kane
Dupuis-Malkin-Byfuglien

I have also thought about the Penguins acquiring a second line center, moving Malkin to the wing with Crosby. Malkin isn't great on face offs and this could bring back Malkin's goal scoring that saw him reach 50 before.

Thanks for reading

JF12


14 Aug 2014 17:13:23
Only if griess manages to play better than fleury, so doubtful

Beleaf


Byfuglien doesn't wanna play forward

slapshot18


Sure your top 6 might be good, but then who is in net for the pens?


Pens don't have the Cap Space
So its not possible, look at available Cap Space before posting people, the NHL is a Cap League

Pinball


Byfuglien isn't a forward!

Bruins1737



 

 

13 Aug 2014 18:36:17
Just some trades I have thought of.

SJS: Fleury
PIT: Niemi

This depends on the state of the goaltending of both teams. If San jose wants to get younger, if the Penguins aren't comfortable with Fleury. Low risk, potential high reward for both teams. Both are UFA's after this season. Both are cup champs. Interesting proposal.

NSH: Ryan
OTT: 1st Round Pick, Watson, Wilson

TOR: Jurco, 5th Round Pick
DET: Franson

DAL: Gryba
OTT: Fiddler

TOR: Petry
EDM: 3rd Round Pick, Nillsson

Any changes or suggestions?

JF12


Good trades.

NHLnerd


13 Aug 2014 21:28:00
TOR adds the pick, Jurco > Franson

Draisaitl_94


Franson won't get you that.

Habfan2


To much for Ryan

Charles Xavier


14 Aug 2014 03:24:21
I like them both from a leafs standpoint

Stammer2Leafs2016


15 Aug 2014 23:20:58
Putting aside the fact both of the Leafs trades are good from a leafs standpoint, good on you for thinking of fair trades for all teams involved. Not necessarily filling everyone's needs, but in terms of value no one gets the shaft. Anyone who says different are just mad that their favourite player was traded.

UnbiasedLeafsFan



 

 

11 Aug 2014 16:59:42
Okay this is likely NOT to happen but the value is pretty fair and maybe in 5 years one of these players my request to be traded.
To Washington: Malkin
To Pittsburgh: Ovichkin
Ovi would have a better chance for chasing a cup with Crosby
And Malkin gets to be a number one centre.
Washington also gets a forward who back checks and will play defense (nothing personal to Ovi maybe Trotz will change that who knows)

Bruins1737


11 Aug 2014 17:56:31
Centres hold a much higher value than wingers; especially wingers who literally cannot play defense to save their life.

Stammer2Leafs2016


Instead I'd do backstrom + green for malkin + dupuis

STAMKOS 91


Stamkos 91, whatever you're smoking you need to get off of it ASAP! If u think backstrom and a cap dump will get u Malkin that's blasphemous.

Soobydoo



 

 

08 Aug 2014 19:13:45
Ideal remaining of summer moves by the Penguins

Sign Jimmy Hayes

PIT: Bennett
VAN: Tanev
*More involved maybe?

PIT: Dupuis and a 4th
SJ: Torres and Brown

Kunitz-Crosby-Hayes
Kapanen-Malkin-Hornqvist
Spaling-Sutter-Downie
Torres-Goc-Brown
Extras: Comeau and Adams

Martin-Letang
Maatta-Ehrhoff
Scuderi-Tanev
Extra: Depress

Fleury-Greiss

1 PP
Kunitz-Crosby-Malkin
Letang-Ehrhoff

2 PP
Hayes-Sutter-Kapanen
Tanev-Martin

1 PK
Goc-Hornqvist
Martin-Ehrhoff

2 PK
Crosby-Downie
Scuderi-Letang

Team has good depth. Vets with some youth. Odds of it happening are unlikely. But yah never know. Team built better for the playoffs?

MG69


I Belive you mean Kevin Hayes cause jimmy Hayes plays for florida and sucks

HabsFan3131


Comeau over Brown?

Datsik_91


-don't think canucks would do that cause they have plenty of 3rd liners already and not many young defencemen.

-I do think it's close in value (not sure if either adds)

Nucker11


The penguins don't need Tanev they have plenty d that can make the nhl Poulliet Harrinton dumolien

Penguins8771


Well aware of that, but how many of them can play the right side since they are all leftys? Its good in theory, but a lot of guys have trouble playing the right side when they are leftys. Ehrhoff can play both sides effectively hence why he is on the right side in my post.

MG69



 

 

07 Aug 2014 04:37:01
Oilers' future lineup

Hall-Nugent-Hopkins-Eberle
Yakupov-Draisaitl-Moroz
Purcell-Chase-Khaira/Roy
Pinizzotto-Yakimov-Pitlick


Yet to be drafted/Fayne-Nurse
Marincin-Schultz
Davidson-Klefbom/Gernat/Musil/Simpson

Laurent Brossoit
Ben Scrivens/Bunz

To Buffalo: Gernat,Musil,
To Oilers:2nd round draft pick

Fasth goes to the KHL,
Boyd Gordon KHL
Matt Hendricks depth/4th liner
Andrew Ference retired
Mark Arcobello traded for a pick.
Will Acton Free Agent

Pittsburgh: Lander
Oilers: Vitale, 6th

Lander doesn't fit on the Oilers line-up, he doesn't put up points, and doesn't hit. And cannot win face-offs.

Oilersblue1707


Forgot to add this but Nikitin is in the top 6 instead of Davidson, Davidson is depth.
Arcobello for Detroits 5th, if he's going to play more than 30 games in the NHL (in the first season) EDM Gets 6th.

Oilersblue1707


Arcobello did a hell of a lot in EDM last season. Je shouldbt be traded quickly

Jordiebenn


Joe Vitale just signed with the Arizona coyotes this offseason

hockeynut12



 

 

02 Aug 2014 07:14:46
BUF: Myers, Stafford
PIT: Malkin

Pens have some depth issues, which would be helped by Stafford, and they get a possible top defenseman in Myers. For the small price of a 2nd line centre who only put up 72 points in 60 games.

SuperUnbiasedFan


I hope this proposal is a joke

willi


More like Malkin for the entire Sabres roster

Captain Nutjob



 

 

31 Jul 2014 23:03:17
To Pittsburgh: Draisaitl and Rights to Schultz
To Edmonton: Letang, Rights to Sutter and 2nd


Draisaitl would fit perfectly behind Crosby and Malkin
Schultz is way cheaper than Letang but has less experience

Letang fills their top 2 roll perfect and Sutter is their immediate help at #2C


Ehrhoff off could mention and help Draisaitl

domi_87


Why would they trade Draisaitl? From now on, I am not even reading your trades.

Oilersblue1707


^ your trades aren't any better

BogdanYakimov



 

 

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