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31 Oct 2014 01:22:37
As much as I hate it as a pittsburgh fan. I think philly will make a hard push for eberle, who I dearly love after his great performances in the World Juniors.

Price: Prospect, NHL ready, 1st

To EDM: Morin, Shenn, 1st 2015
To PHI: Eberle

CaPtAiN cAnAdA

Couturier or yeah, Schenn, would probably be going the other way.




28 Oct 2014 23:58:58
Both goalies are upcoming UFAs. Both are part of contending teams.

PIT: Niemi, 4th 2015, 2nd 2016

SJS: Fleury

Fleury has the edge on Niemi so the sharks throw in picks.




26 Oct 2014 22:59:43
Phi- scuderi
Pitt- 4th rounder

Pitt- stafford
Buff- dumolin, Pitts 4th rounder


27 Oct 2014 12:04:07
The Stafford trade looks possible.


Maybe a 5th for scuds


Imo buff can get more for stafford maybe dumolin and a 2nd or something along those lines


@granville I only wish you were correct and I realize that Dumolin is a C prospect, but unfortunately no one on this current BUF team is tradable. But the above trade did receive support (I am referring to my comments number of agree v disagree) so here is a new proposal:
Pitt- stafford, 5th
Buff- dumolin, 3rd
If the standings were same as last year, those two picks are only 36 spots apart.




24 Oct 2014 15:01:56
to Edmonton: G Marc-Andre Fleury, LW Pascal Dupuis

to Pittsburgh: G Ben Scrivens, 2015-2nd Round, RW Nail Yakupov


24 Oct 2014 20:10:36
This is interesting because Rutherford says he is definitely going to resign Marc-Andre Fleury to a new contract but I don't know if that's the right thing to do.


Pens take that deal in a heartbeat


What? Ben Scrivens going to Pittsburgh? I don't think so! LOL Maybe a Jonathan Quick going to Pittsburgh but not Ben Scrivens LOL eh!




24 Oct 2014 06:20:49
Just a thought I had

Oilers trade Yakupov

Penguins trade Fleury

Oilers aren't going anywhere with scrivens and fasth in net. Yak could reach his full potential playing with Sid or Geno. Oilers get a former Stanley cup winner who could just help them reach the playoffs.


24 Oct 2014 08:29:48
i guess value wise its not horrible, if fleury says he'll rsign in EDM anyways. problem for PIT then is they're rolling out greiss as the starter, which is far from ideal.


I think the value is good overall, but the pens aren't left with anyone decent to put in goal. Because of that they decline


As long as Pitt can bring in another goalie it's likely worth it.

With this said, we know MAF's history. Not sure he's the goalie Edmonton should be going after.
Better trading someone who has better value for a goalie is more proven.


Pens could run with Griess-Zatkoff or even sign a FA maybe bryz or brodeur.


They can just turn around and sign Marty for the rest of the year




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24 Oct 2014 05:26:43
Colorado gets

Pittsburgh gets


Colorado declines


A big no from the avs


In the short term Colorado may win, but it's horrible in the long term


Not enough for pens guys what are you saying this is malkin were talking about


@careyprice. MacKinnon is 19 and already a star. Malkins great and all but I wouldn't give MacKinnon for malkin straight up


That would be a fleece job for the pens bringing in mackinnon for malkin . especially long term agreed eh!




23 Oct 2014 19:18:31
E. Malkin C
B. Sutter C
K. Letang D

J. Eberle RW
J. Shultz D
O. Klefbom D

J. Gardiner D
P. Holland C

S. Coutourier C
3rd 2016


23 Oct 2014 20:18:19
Malkin is better than Eberle & RNH.
Letang is better than Klefbom and Schultz.


If malkin is involved hall would be coming back


That probably won't get you Malkin alone.


24 Oct 2014 20:16:39
I don't know how people disagree with this. Malkin is arguably a top 5 player in the league and Letang despite his condition last year, he is one of the best dman in the league.


I want to cry because of how poorly you guys treat malkin, this trade requires hall going the other way if malkins name is mentioned




22 Oct 2014 19:56:37



I don't mind this trade fleury time in Pittsburgh is numbered. And I would live to see eberle play with sid.


Goaltending would be pretty weak in Pburgh with a Fasth/Greiss tandem IMO, but I believe the value is pretty darn close.


I agree with you Scheister, goaltending would give up 10 goals a game avg imo unless Sid and co. score 13 a game to win every game and that's not going to happen this day and age in the NHL eh!




22 Oct 2014 00:23:19
To Pens: Marcus Foligno

To Buf: Harrington, conditional 2nd 2016 if pens make it to conference final

CaPtAiN cAnAdA

Buffalo isn't trading Foligno unless you overpay for him. They're in rebuild mode and not trading young players.


IMO if PIT offered Scott Harrington and a potential 2nd Tim, Marcus would on the next flight to Pittsburgh. Scott is a decent prospect and a the chance at another pick would certainly intrigue Mr. Murray.




21 Oct 2014 18:14:25
Edmonton gets
Pit 2015 1st rd

Pittsburgh gets

or a Blockbuster Deal

Edmonton gets
Scuderi (25% salary retained)
Pit 2015 2nd rd pick

Pittsburgh gets

Edmonton would be cap compliant but could go over cap by ~ $600,000 according to capgeek if Yak's earns all of his bonus.


Major over-payment by Pittsburgh on the second trade. First one is solid


Remove the draft pick?




20 Oct 2014 02:39:05
Midseason Push

ARI wants McDavid. Pens want a cup.

To Pens: Hanzel, Gormley
To ARI: Sutter, Megna, 2nd 2015, conditional

TOR wants Eichel. Pens want cup.

To Pens: Lupul
To TOR: Scuderi, 2nd 2016

ex Comeau

ex Harrington


CaPtAiN cAnAdA

As much as I dislike T.O there's zero chance unless they trade for a 1st that they will get the 2nd overall.


Toronto would want someone younger with some potential rather than scuderi with that 2nd rounder included


To speak the truth no one wants Scuderi.


Yup so the Leafs give up a top-six forward for a guy who won't crack the top 6 d-men and a second.




19 Oct 2014 18:40:34
Buffalo's mid-late season moves:

To PIT: Chris Stewart, 3rd 2016

To BUF: Paul Martin

PIT is looking for another forward and Stewart gives them more grit for the playoffs.

To ANA: Tyler Myers

To BUF: Jakob Silfverberg, Hampus Lindholm

ANA wants another D-man for the playoffs and has shown interest in Myers. BUF gets a solid 2-way forward and a young defenceman

To ARZ: Drew Stafford, Jake McCabe, 3rd 2015

To BUF: Brandon Gormley, Lucas Lessio

ARZ is looking to trade Gormley as he is unhappy playing in the AHL and so they get another solid winger to push for a playoff spot.

To DET: Mark Pysyk, 2nd 2016

To BUF: Dylan Larkin, 5th 2015

DET wants a right handed defenceman and once Pysyk is healthy I believe he will be and 4-6 D-man. BUF has shown a lot of interest in Larkin and wants more prospect depth up front

BUF signs Dustin Penner 2 years 2.5 mil

Send Reinhart down after 9 and call up Grigorenko as he had a great camp

BUF lines after moves:

Moulson - Ennis - Silfverberg
Penner - Grigorenko - Hodgson
Foligno - Girgensons - Gionta
Deslauriers - McCormick - Mitchell

Gorges - Lindholm
Martin - Ristolainen
Meszaros - Gormley


Not all of these trades are perfect so if there are some that need tweaking let me hear your thoughts.


19 Oct 2014 19:36:15
Lindholm & Silfverberg is a bit too much. Maybe Lindholm & Rackell.

PS: I wouldn't consider Silfverberg a a 2 way forward, he's a more of a sniper.


19 Oct 2014 21:04:40
Too much for Myers. Anaheim wouldn't give up Lindholm.


19 Oct 2014 21:06:23
I'd consider Silfverberg as a two-way forward with one hell of a shot.


19 Oct 2014 21:11:05
Dont even think the Ducks would trade Lindholm straight up. At least, I wouldnt.


If Detroit includes Larkin in a trade it will be for Myers! Wings say no


Why would a none playoff team like Buffalo traade for a rental player?


20 Oct 2014 01:51:29
and what's the benefit in BUF trading for martin? i'm sure they'd rather picks or prospects instead of nothing essentially, since martin wouldlikely leave in fa.


20 Oct 2014 02:27:37
Leafs should trade for Eberle. I would give up franson,reimer and a draft pick. 2nd in 2015

Then I would turn round and trade Kari, gardiner and conner brown to Carolina to get staal.

Top two lines now would be

Jvr staal kessel

Lupal bozak eberle



To PIT: Chris Stewart, 3rd 2016, To BUF: Paul Martin, NO! Martin is too old to be around if the Sabres ever get good.
To ANA: Tyler Myers, To BUF: Jakob Silfverberg, Hampus Lindholm, YES! Would kill to make this trade.
To ARZ: Drew Stafford, Jake McCabe, 3rd 2015, To BUF: Brandon Gormley, Lucas Lessio, YES! See above.
To DET: Mark Pysyk, 2nd 2016, To BUF: Dylan Larkin, 5th 2015, DET says no to a YOUNG R-Dman!
BUF signs Dustin Penner 2 years 2.5 mil; Send Reinhart down after 9 YES to both.
Call up Grigorenko as he had a great camp, keep him in Rochester, I do not want him on team with losing attitude.


I included the trade for Martin because I believe he would be a great mentor to our youth especially Ristolainen. Myers has Gorges to cover up some of his mistakes I think we need someone to cover up some of Risto's.

BUF was able to bring Moulson back and convince Gionta and Gorges to come over so I think there may be a chance we could resign Martin. BUF has the money to offer him a huge contract.


Another solid defensive d-man will be especially important if BUF is serious about trade Myers. Ristolainen needs someone better to play with, to help develop him into the #1 D-man he can be. I don't want him to see him on the first defensive pairing with Gorges yet he isn't ready for that


Also Silfverberg is the important player for BUF in that deal to me. Lindholm would be nice but not necessary as BUF already had good prospect depth on D.

Maybe instead of Lindholm BUF asks for one of the following:

Rickard Rakell, Devante Smith-Pelley, Shea Theodore, Sami Vatanen

(Preferably Smith-Pelley or Theodore)

If Myers alone is still not enough then BUF should add whether it be picks or prospects doesn't matter we have tons of both.




19 Oct 2014 16:26:58
Pittsburgh mid season moves:

Edmonton fans see that they are in the bottom three. Management decides they are ready to draft McDavid/Eichel and make the playoffs every year for the next decade and they finally get a franchise player. They throw the season.

To PIT: Nugent-Hopkins
To EDM: Derrick Pouliot, 2nd 2015, future considerations (after the playoffs, pittsburgh trades fleury's rights to edm. gives them #1 goalie)

Potential elite fwd for a potential elite dman.

Pittsburgh would have to trade another player to get them under cap. they also keep their first for this year and allows them to draft a player like Nicholas Meloche.

Lines prior to second trade:


Ehroff-*Martin *Probably traded to a west contender

*Harrington replaces him


CaPtAiN cAnAdA

RNH is good, but not that good. IF they're getting Fleury, EDM adds. Probably a pick




14 Oct 2014 23:59:44
Let Fleury walk at the end of the season and then do this,

To NY Rangers: Malkin
To Pittsburgh: Lundqvist


Malkin 28
Lundqvist 33
Lundqvist also seems to be out of form


15 Oct 2014 06:26:43
rangers 1. wouldn't really want that cause rolling with cam talbot or some ufa signing as your starter doesn't sound like that sound of a plan ,and 2. if thy did they would hae to add quite a bit


An all star goalie is a million times more valuable then an all star forward


Rangers say no immediately. Elite goalies don't grow on trees


^ they definitely don't grow on trees. but they do get old and start to deteriorate. Now IMO Henrik has 5-6 years left in him, just maybe not all of those years at an elite level.

IF the NYR would be willing to wait on developing another goalie (so either drafting/trading for a young goalie and adding another through FA/trade to fill the gap while the other develops) they would be silly not to make this trade.


No from both teams


Then who do the Rangers have? They could not recover from losing Lundqvist. Doesn't matter if Malkin scores 50 he won't prevent other teams from putting the puck by Lundqvists replacement. Pittsburgh can recover from losing Malkin because of Brandon Sutter, and forwards are much easier to come by then who is arguably the best goalie in the world


16 Oct 2014 03:04:57
malkin isn't just an all star forward. he's a centre you can build a team around. he's also in th beginning of his prime years, whereas lundy is at the ed of his prime, yes he as some good years left, but its likely malkin can still be putting up a ppg or very close to it, when lundy hangs them up.



so what are they doing to do when he retires/can't play at that level any more? give up as a franchise?Henrik isn't the only reason they are a competitive team.

All I am saying is, they will need to find his replacement at some point. So IF they could stomach a few seasons without an elite goalie, while they developed another (or if they could trade for someone close to that level) AND they got Malkin out of it, why wouldn't they do it.


Fleury and Malkin for Lundvist and Brassard




09 Oct 2014 20:15:25
Two and half months into the season the the Sabres are in the 8th playoff spot, Tim Murray starts to panic as he sees his job and the chance at the next Gilbert Perreault fading it the distance. Terry, Ted and Craig enter his office together and want answers for the teams unwanted success.
Meanwhile , the Wings are 6 points out of the playoffs, the Penguins are 7 points behind the Lightening for 1st place in the East and the Canadians are just holding on to a playoff spot.
Suddenly, Tim's phone starts to ring, and by the end of the day:
DET trades Alexey Marchenko & 2015 1st to BUF for Tyler Myers & Johan Larsson
PIT trades 2015 1st & 2nd to BUF for Chris Stewart, Luke Adam & Matthew Hackett
MTL trades 2015 1st & 2nd to BUF for Cody Hodgson, Justin Kea & Phil Verone
Tim, with a smile on his face says good night to his staff as he knows Christmas came a bit early for him as 10 picks in the first two rounds go dancing in his head. LOL


I love the effort


I don't see how the LOL at the end makes this humorous. It's ridiculous to think any of that will happen unless you're using your play station.


BIG no from Habs, none of those players are needed, better off keeping the pick

Boris Bagel

@HockeyGodsGift of course none them are going to happen. I was just having some fun. Let us all just have some fun once in a while. I do not own a play station nor an x-box, so we can count those out. I think JF12 realized that the entire post is a joke. After watching the dismal Sabre performance (a game they should have won with a little bit of effort) against an understaffed Blue Jacket team, it is unlikely that the Sabres will be in playoff contention. It is also unlikely that Tim's job would be in jeopardy so early in his tenure. Next time I post something silly, I will start the post off by saying "this is meant to be silly". For now, just have a good laugh at my Christmas story.


@stanleycup2019 you own nhl 2k for wii??


I own a WII but no sport games. I was just having some fun. I know none of those things will happen. Let us not take ourselfs too seriously on this site. None us know the value that the GM's see in certain players. Why is Kaleta still in yhe NHL? Who on this site predicted Briere would be traded for Parentaul and a pick or Gagner for a 6th? Let us just have some fun once in a while.




05 Oct 2014 00:01:41
Detroit Trades:
Kyle Quincey(Retain 20%)

Pittsburgh Trades:
Scott Harrington

Detroit gets a defensive defenseman prospect.Pittsburgh adds defensive depth.


If the Pens are trading Harrington than Jurco is coming back in the deal, not Quincey.




01 Oct 2014 14:25:32
Oduya to the Isles for 3rd and 5th picks

Isles get a veteran shutdown dman who is accustomed to facing the opponents best players every game without giving up too much.

Marcel Goc was traded to the Pens last trade deadline for the same price and IMO Goc and Oduya are similar in value and the Isles would be using Oduya a full season, not just 1 and 1/2 to 2 months.

Isles may want to keep their remaining 2015 picks since they don't have a first this coming draft so maybe make the picks 2016 and 2017.


Throw in Carkner and its a deal


Oduya to Isles would be great for them, but Chicago would proably want a low-price D-Man in return that can be a 6/7. Maybe Matt Donoavan/ Brian Strait/ Aaron Ness.

Matt Carkner holds no trade value, he is only useful when playing a team that has an enforcer playing that night. He is slow, has no playing awareness and only Garth Snow could think he was worth a 3 year deal. But at least it is the last year of paying Alexi Yashin's buyout.


^If Chicago is will to take anyone of those three guys, then let em have em. Watching Donnovan last night and Ness is the other games, made me wanna throw up. As for Strait, he blows




17 Sep 2014 11:10:38
Second in a series of 6 moves:
Buffalo: Chris Stewart, Luke Adam & Phil Verone (Rochester Amerks top two scorers)
Pittsburgh: 2015 1st


17 Sep 2014 17:17:49
the pick would have to be conditional on stewart signing I think, if not I can't see PIT giving up its 1st with no assurance of that.


If it's conditional it should be a 2nd if he doesn't sign.


Thanks for the feedback. Remember any PIT 1st is going to be a very late (20-30) and with Stewart in the line up probably one of the last 4. The trade was actually proposed by MG69 and it received more positive replies than this post. Even with the above feedback, I think my proposed trade is fair to both PIT and BUF.


18 Sep 2014 15:44:56
IMO the trade is fair as is. The penguins get a very valuable depth/role player in Stewart which is much needed by the pens who NEED to make it deep this year. I think Stewart helps them to do that.




16 Sep 2014 17:49:27
PIT: 1st and conditional picks
BUF: Stewart, Adams, and Verone
*As suggested by stanleycup2019 with my addition of conditional picks.

PIT: Dupuis, Bennett, Depress, and Conditional 2016 1st
WPG: Kane
*May be a stretch. But Jets get an establishef two eay RW, a young forward who can play both wings who has showed signs of becoming a great secondary scorer, a solid young lefty dman, and possibly a conditional pick depending on how Kane performs. He is out of their conference and they get good key players to help now and in the future.

PIT: Scuderi
NYI: 2nd or 3rd
*Good vet dman for a young dcore. Adds stability on Isles back end and clears cap for the Pens.

Extras: Adams and Megna
*Assuming Carcillo gets signed

Maatta- Ehrhoff
Extra: one of either Dumoulin, Harrington, and Pouliot

Fleury- Griess

Opinions? Makes the Pens a bigger, faster, stronger, and better team. Great depth down the lineup. Trades address needs for the other teams involved IMO.


I think Tim Murray would like the idea of getting another 1st (probably a very late one if not #29 or 30). Just for clarification it is Luke Adam who is a center and was the Amerks #2 scorer, Mark Adams is a low rated D-man.


Wpg easily says no

el troubadour

Auto correct on the phone -_-


Dupuis 34 years old not much time left in his career,
Bennett 22 years old and only played 47 NHL games,
Depress 23 years old and only played 85 NHL games,
Conditional 2016 1st probably a 20 - 30 round.
Where is the value?




12 Sep 2014 19:07:15
PIT: Bennett
BUF: Stewart
*More involved?

PIT: Dupuis
CAR: Nemisz and a 2nd
*Gives Canes help on the RW. Pens add a a big body player.

PIT: Scuderi and a 4th
NYI: Donavon

Extra: Nemisz and Adams

Extra: Donavon



Since Bennett was a 1st round pick, Murray posits his counter offer:
PIT: 2015 1st
BUF: Stewart and either Luke Adam or Phil Verone or both (Rochester Amerks top two scorers)


So for a 1st the Pens would possibly get three players @stanleycup2019? Just want to clarify to make sure I am reading it correctly. If that is the case I would definately agree with doing that deal if it could be made.


@MG69 Chris Stewart, Phil Verone, Luke Adam for Pittsburgh 2015 1st would work for me, another 1st round pick (probably 20-30) for Murray to play with.


Totally agree with stanleycup2019


Honestly if that deal could happen it would be great for the Pens. They lack forward prospect depth. Conditional picks going back to Buffalo on top of the 1st depending on if Stewart resigns; and how Adams and Verone perform?




11 Sep 2014 12:02:29
PIT: Rob Scuderi D,& 3rd round pick


ARI: Chris Summers D & Jordan Szwarz RW




11 Sep 2014 00:43:56
Penguins early season moves

Pens need to go back to their system of stacking up at centre and Big Joe wants out of San Jose to win a cup.

TO SJS: Sutter, Scuderi, 2nd 2015, 2nd 2016
TO PIT: Thornton

This is similar to what VAN got for Kesler, and he is younger and signed to a better contract.
TO CAR: Dupuis
TO PIT: 2nd 2015

Right now Carolina Hurricanes second line RW is Pat Dwyer. Dupuis gives them a better option playing with former teammate Jordan Staal.
Sign Carcillo 1yr/850k

Kunitz-Crosby-Downie (or Kapanen)
Spaling-Thornton-Kapanen (or Downie)
EX. Adams, Sill

ex. Bortuzzo, Dumoulin


PP1-Crosby, Kunitz, Hornquist, Malkin, Letang

PP2-Kapanen, Bennett, Thornton, Ehroff, Pouliot



Im AqUaMaN

San Jose says no


No way thornton waives his ntc for pit


Actually Thornton said he would accept a trade to a condender. Pittsburgh certainly falls into that category, but with his vision and passing ability he belongs at center which is a problem because same goes for Sid and Geno and I just can't see Joe playing 3rd line center. Geno or Joe would have to play wing.


Thorton said he will only go to Chicago, LA, or Anehiem and I don't think Pitt is even at the top of his list. Especially with what they've done this offseason.


Ill give up a 2nd round pick for Dupuis anytime




08 Sep 2014 23:53:56
According to a source Thornton will only accept a trade to a cup-contending team. These teams were stated as Los Angeles, Chicago, Anaheim, and St.Louis. Might have been one more team. Only western teams though, he wants to keep his family down south.

The only real fit within these clubs would be Chicago, but the trade would be interesting with Chicago's cap space.

Personally Thornton is staying put, due to the high cap hit, and lack of trade partners.

Marleau is the more likely to be traded. Boston looks like a fit, along with Montreal, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Vancouver, Tampa Bay and possibly the Maple Leafs. Marleau has many more possible destinations other than the ones I listed. Comment possible trade for Marleau?? Thanks guys


09 Sep 2014 17:38:12
for his production thornton doesn't have a big controct at all, its actually pretty good value. anyways, I hthink if one goes both will end up leaving, not to the same team, but in the same time period.


09 Sep 2014 19:56:31
Marleau to Van for Burrows, Shinkuruck, Markstrom and a 3rd.


Mtl- Eller 2nd pick2015 Moen

SJ- MArleau 35 with a 6. 666 3 year contract who choke in playoff

Eller can be a good 3rd line centerwith a potential of 40 to 50pts a years
And he clutch in playoff




06 Sep 2014 04:28:01
Pittsburgh opening roster:

Everybody who follows pittsburgh knows that they made a step in the right direction by strengthening their bottom six. But their last addition of Carcillo after hopefully a great preseason would put the icing on the cake!

Sign: Carcillo 1yr/800k

Trade: Dupuis to Minnesotta for Adam Gilmour and a third round pick 2015

Ex. Sill, Megna

ex. Harrington

Fleury and Greiss battle it out early season for starting job.

How many points do you think this team gets this season?

I am guessing 55-22-5 for 115pts!

Anything wrong with the trade? Minnesota does not have many RW players and they could use a guy like Duper. Cap is no issue.

I guess another team could be SJS for Freddie Hamilton?

Im AqUaMaN



01 Sep 2014 18:06:37
chara should go it can help our cap situation and get a good return something like

to buf: chara kelly paille 2015 4th
to bos: gorges and gionta + prospect


dal: chara kelly paille
bos: hemsky daley +prospect


edm: chara kelly 2015 4th
bos: fayne purcell

next 2 are stretches

lak: chara paille kelly 2015 2nd
bos: gaborik greene

nyr: chara marchand kelly 2015 3rd
bos: mcdonogh nash


pit: chara kelly 2015 3rd
bos: ehroff dupios


sjs: chara, marchand
bos:marleau, burns


stl: chara kelly
bos: shattenkirk tarasenko


tbl:chara 2015 1st 2016 5th
bos: callahan


van: chara kelly 2015 3rd
Bos: edler, burrows

that it lmk what u think


That rangers trade.lol


You really don't like chara


So you're saying that Callahan is worth more than shattenkirk and tarasenko combined?



i agree more should be added to shattenkirk and tarasenko deal but I think tbl is more unwilling to part ways with callahand than stl is with tarasenko and shattenkirk


Why would you want to trade your captain and best defenceman when you can just trade Boychuk and be fine? W/O Chara, Boston doesn't even make the playoffs.




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