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24 Jun 2016 04:55:13
Pittsburgh trades Malkin to Montreal for Subban and 2nd round pick

Thoughts?

24 Jun 2016 05:25:03
My thought is that it's even malkin for suban. The age difference makes up the value difference.

24 Jun 2016 09:14:31
Malkin for shattenkirk ;) instantly takes over as number 1 dman, then trade letang cause you'll have no more use for him

23 Jun 2016 17:32:19
Pittsburgh Trades
Rust

Edmonton Trades
Yakupov

Thoughts?

23 Jun 2016 18:50:09
Yeah No from Penguins. They just won the cup and Rust was great for them.

23 Jun 2016 02:09:58
here's a couple of moves i could see the Calgary Flames making:

Cgy
2nd Round pick (35th overall)
Emile Porier

Pit
Fleury

This trade makes sense because Porier was drafted in the 1st round a few years ago and has some potiential. The penguins wanted our 6th OA pick which would never happen

CGY will sign David Perron to a 3yr 4mil per year deal that will fill the gaping hole they have at right wing.

OR
(this won't happen but i can dream)

CGY
First Round pick (6th Overall)
Second Round Picl (35th Overall)
Third Round Pick (66th Overall)

TBL
Bishop
Drouin

Thoughts on all 3?

23 Jun 2016 02:23:24
Calgary adds on the 3rd maybe Kylington, Wotherspoon.

23 Jun 2016 02:25:04
3rd isn't enough. I wouldn't give Bishop and Drouin for that. I don't think Drouin gets traded anyway they need some forwards when Stamkos goes.

23 Jun 2016 02:58:16
Fleury one ain't bad.

23 Jun 2016 03:24:07
You actually might be able to get Bishop out of Tampa but not Drouin.

23 Jun 2016 03:24:42
the first one needs a bit more coming from Calgary and I'm not sure about the Drouin/ Bishop trade because Drouin has already rescinded his trade request.

23 Jun 2016 14:36:36
this doesn't get you Drouin alone, let alone him and bish.

22 Jun 2016 19:27:10
Pit: Evgeni Malkin
Chi: Artem Anisimov
Brent Seabrook
Nick Schmaltz
2017 1st.

22 Jun 2016 19:44:02
They just signed Schmaltz. Also, no from Pittsburgh.

23 Jun 2016 00:34:16
did you see how well anisimov played with panarin and kane? also seabrook is a good 2 defenseman and chicago just signed schmalz. i wouldn't want to get rid of another first round pick either. yeah it'd help cap situation but why hurt our defense to get more offense. we need depth forwards and better defense, not a top 6 player.

23 Jun 2016 00:50:25
Chicago can't afford Evgeni Malkin. They had to sacrifice Tuevo Teravainen (#18 overall in the 2012 Entry
Draft) just to rid themselves of Bryan Bickell's contract.

22 Jun 2016 19:18:55
Bruins/ Oilers
Seidenberg for Pouliot

Bruins/ Devils
Chara for Pick#105

Bruins/ Flames
Connolly Rask pick#49 for pick#6

Bruins/ Leafs
Pick#195 for rights to Cowen

Bruins/ Penguins
Pick#165 for rights to Schultz

Bruins/ Sharks
pick#136 for rights to Reimer

Bruins/ Ducks
Pick#135 for rights to Stewart

Players offer.
Cowen 4 years at 1,5 millions per
Schultz 4 years at 2 millions per
Stewart 4 years at 2 millions per
Reimer 4 years at 5 millions per
Eriksson 5 years at 5,5 millions per

This Buys more time to draft and develop player in providence (Ahl) .

22 Jun 2016 19:46:11
Why in god's name are you offering all those guys 4 year deals?

Cowen and Stewart won't get anything more than 1 (maybe 2) year deals. Shultz could get a 2 year. Also, these trades are unlikely in so many ways.

22 Jun 2016 20:42:04
And why are you giving up so many draft picks for UFAs?!

23 Jun 2016 00:38:11
i think chara would get a better return than a mid 3rd round pick, maybe 2nd + prospect. cowen was bought out so can't trade for his rights. think bruins would add another piece for #6 overall. the only ones i'd give the 4 year deals to would be shultz and cowen, even then it'd be pushing it.

22 Jun 2016 18:15:29
Just playing with an idea here.

STL: Malkin

PIT: Shattenkirk, Stastny, 2017 1st

Not sure if it's enough future for Pit. Long term investment for STL. For those who say Shatty is worth more bc he's a dman, he's a UFA in a year. Stastny is a UFA the following year. And STL does not have an elite #1 C.

Anywho just a thought and obviously would need adjustment.

22 Jun 2016 18:48:13
Penguins have No cap space.

22 Jun 2016 19:05:54
Not a chance.

22 Jun 2016 19:05:54
Not a chance.

22 Jun 2016 13:20:04
Flames/ Leafs

Wideman for Bernier

Flames/ Penguins

Pick#66 for Schultz

Gives decent player at decent price.

22 Jun 2016 13:36:18
Well Pittsburgh does the 2nd one. Because they said they aren't tendering him, so the flames could just get him for free.

22 Jun 2016 12:05:19
Best Malkin-Trade for Pittsburgh:

Penguins get: B. Saad and Nr.1 Pick 2016

Columbus get: E. Malkin.

22 Jun 2016 12:40:37
CLB is already in salary cap hell, they can't afford him. And Malkin is not likely going anywhere.

22 Jun 2016 17:57:57
CLB try to trade Tyutin, Clarkson, Hartnell and maybe Foligno. So they can save money with other trades.
CLB need a better center after trading Johansen; and PIT get a fast LW for the Crosby-Line and get more cap space.

22 Jun 2016 11:55:07
Flames- 6th OA
Penguins- fleury, rights to Schultz, 2nd (Ana)

Does it seem fair?

22 Jun 2016 12:41:43
They aren't trading their 6th OA for Fleury, it's just not happening. Schneider is a better goalie who was much younger when he got the 9th pick from Jersey.

22 Jun 2016 16:56:19
Ya but Schneider for Horvat was a stupid trade

22 Jun 2016 17:15:29
That may be, but the valuation of draft picks (pre selection) is very evident. Fleury is not worth anything higher than a mid-late first rounder.

22 Jun 2016 09:13:34
Hearing Chicago pushing hard for Malkin?

To Chicago:
- C Evgeni Malkin
- 2016 3rd Round Pick
To Pittsburgh:
- D Ville Pokka
- C Nick Shmaltz
- D Brent Seabrook (25% Retained)
- C Artemi Anisimov

Resign Ladd

Ladd-Toews-Hossa
Panarin-Malkin-Kane.

22 Jun 2016 09:39:04
At least give them a first, Rutherford probably won't be assertive to give a way a two time Stanley cup winning first/ second line center like Malkin.

22 Jun 2016 11:20:31
Add shaw and a pick I doubt penguins do that it's a huge step back to there organization.

22 Jun 2016 08:58:55
Pittsburgh gets: Lehner, Bogosian and a 2016 2nd (38th)

Buffalo gets: Fleury and Fehr (or Cole)

Pens' lineup:

Sheary - Crosby - Hornqvist
Kunitz - Malkin - Rust
Hagelin - Bonino - Kessel
Wilson - Cullen - Kuhnhackl/ Fehr

Dumoulin - Letang
Maatta - Bogosian
Daley/ Cole - Lovejoy

Murray
Lehner.

22 Jun 2016 09:42:58
do you know how much Cap Bogosian holds? There could be way more alternatives than Bogo and aren't they in the same division?

22 Jun 2016 12:03:52
Best Malkin-Trade for Pittsburgh:

Pittsburgh get: Saad and Nr.1 Pick 2016

Columbus get: Malkin.

22 Jun 2016 15:54:10
That trade will never happen because Buffalo isn't ready to compete yet therefore trading for a way older goalie makes no sense.

22 Jun 2016 03:48:50
Pittsburgh + Chicago moves

Pens acquire Ortio, Calgary 2nd, Dallas 2nd, Colborne

Calgary acquires Fleury
--------

Pens acquire Anisimov, TVR, Shaw, 2nd rd pick, 2017 1st, 2017 2nd

Chicago acquires Malkin, Kunitz (Chicago would need to clear more cap space but will end up with the craziest top 6 in NHL)

Panarin. Toews. Kane
Kunitz. Malkin. Hossa

Pittsburgh Flip Anisimov, pick to Ottawa for Hoffman

Pens then help future cap and still have solid top 6 in

Hoffman. Crosby. Hornqvist
Hagelin. Bonino. Kessel.

22 Jun 2016 06:24:12
That's just. No.

22 Jun 2016 12:48:50
Magic Man pulled that trade out of his rabbit's ass. You're psychotic if you think these are going through.

22 Jun 2016 02:02:34
Rutherford's getting greedy. He's a proposal that's fair.
To Pittsburgh:
6 Overall
Oliver Kylington
To Calgary:
Marc Andre Fleury
Olli Matta
Daniel Sprong.

22 Jun 2016 02:36:33
That is not fair for pitts Calgary gets the 2 best players in fluery and Matta.

22 Jun 2016 03:00:20
Too much from Pitt imo.

22 Jun 2016 03:48:35
Cal gets hosed.

22 Jun 2016 05:21:27
Ooops lmao ment to say Pits*.

21 Jun 2016 19:54:05
My 2016 NHL Mock Draft:

#1 Toronto/ Patrick Laine
#2 Winnipeg/ Auston Matthews
#3 Columbus/ Jesse Puljujarvi
#4 Edmonton WE HAVE A TRADE

Oilers trade the 4th overall pick to the Arizona Cayotes in exchange for:

Christian Dvorak
2016 7th overall
Michael Stone

And in return they get
2016 4th overall
2016 3rd round (Penguins)

#4 Arizona/ Matthew Tkachuk
#5 Vancouver/ PLD
#6 Calgary/ Olli Juolevi
#7 Edmonton/ Mikhail Sergachov
#8 Buffalo/ / Tyson Jost
#9 Montreal/ / Logan Brown
#10 Colorado/ / Jake Bean

Thoughts?

21 Jun 2016 19:57:12
Note:
I'm probably the only one who thinks this but i believe Laine will go #1 overall. He shoots the puck very well and could be the next Ovechkin. I believe that Toronto will win the 2017 NHL Lottery and will have a great centre in Nolan Patrick.

21 Jun 2016 19:57:38
Note:
I'm probably the only one who thinks this but i believe Laine will go #1 overall. He shoots the puck very well and could be the next Ovechkin. I believe that Toronto will win the 2017 NHL Lottery and will have a great centre in Nolan Patrick.

21 Jun 2016 20:12:58
Nope not happening but hopefully the Leafs do win the 2017 lottery.

21 Jun 2016 20:35:26
2/ 10 GMS said that Laine will go first, i agree with them.

Besides the Laine going first, other thoughts?

21 Jun 2016 20:58:59
Dont bet your house on Laine going 1st Overall TysonBarrie.

21 Jun 2016 21:27:34
Here's why Matthews will go #1. He is a center man and Laine is a winger. You build with winning the battles in the middle. 2nd Laine is very good. More potential then Matthews IMO but he has a big mouth on him. Not saying that is a bad thing but you think that Shannahan, Lou, and Babcock will stand for that? Lou won't even let you grow facial hair so they will take the safe pick and go with Matthews I look forward to see Laine play in person for the Jets!

22 Jun 2016 00:21:24
Oils add.

22 Jun 2016 00:32:38
Only reason why Matthews will actually go first is bcuz of positional needs. That's just my opinion. But I'm also certain that's the reason. And I'm sure you will agree.

22 Jun 2016 01:31:24
I don't think there is anyway that Colorado takes a D at 10 unless one of the top 3 (sergachev, chychrun and joulevi) . They will almost certainly take Keller or Nylander is one of the two is still there.

21 Jun 2016 19:03:19
Depending on what happens with the MA Fleury situation (because if Pittsburgh is indeed asking for the 6th overall that's insane) I can see this small move going down

To CAL: Bernier
To TO: Wideman (who has a NMC)

Calgary gets a goalie for a year and saves 1.1 mill in the process. Leafs get a veteran right shot d man that could Be paired with Reilly since Hunwick is more suited to a bottom pairing role.

21 Jun 2016 19:37:46
Yes but Bernier doesn't exactly have the skill Fluery does. Fleury is a Stanley Cup winning goalie and Bernier just didn't look good the last 2 seasons.

21 Jun 2016 19:38:11
I like it a lot for Toronto.

21 Jun 2016 22:36:10
Oh I was by no means comparing Bernier to Fleury. I was just saying if the Pens refuse to come down in price than this is a viable and cheaper alternative.

21 Jun 2016 16:14:05
Read a report saying Pittsburgh is asking Calgary for their 1st round pick (6th overall) in any fleury deal! that is absolutely absurd! Fleury could definetly be an option for calgary, but with reimer looking like a decent signing possibility, the situation pittsburgh is in and the recent andersen trade that just went down (as a comparable) here is the most i could see calgary offering them.

Cgy: Fleury
Pit: 2016 2nd (35th), 2016 2nd (54th) and maybe like a late 3rd or fourth pick if they were really that desperate.

Considering that andersen fetched 30th pick (only 5 spots higher) and a second for next year (who knows where that will end up) i don't think that pittsburgh can really ask for anything more than what anaheim got. Yes fleury is more proven then andersen. But andersen is younger, has more potential, and would probably have been calgary's first choice had they had their pick.

21 Jun 2016 16:50:30
Pittsburgh doesn't have any bargaining power, How many teams are looking for a goalie? Toronto is off the market now, Carolina resigned Ward, Lehner is healthy now I assume, its really only Calgary it seems. Pittsburgh has no cap space and will just lose him in a years time for nothing anyway. If I'm Calgary, I offer pick #35 and don't budge at all. You'll see how fast Pittsburgh changes their mind.

21 Jun 2016 17:11:02
Calgary isn't exactly in a position of power either. They have a great group of players, but lack a good goalie. It will really depend on how badly management wants to win now. I do think 6th overall is too much though.

21 Jun 2016 17:19:02
Not the best time to be sellers in the goalie market. Can't see Fleury getting more then a couple picks/ prospects and maybe a cheap roster player.

2nd, 3rd and Jokkipakka or something like that.

21 Jun 2016 19:44:29
I think similar to what Shankar said about players asking for more money than they are going to get, teams do the same thing. Pittsburgh has to over value fleury, so that when bargaining happens they don't get stiffed on value.

21 Jun 2016 13:38:15
I remember proposing the Leafs trading Pitts 1st, Kapanen to Anaheim for Anderson

You all though that was insane. Instead of Kapanen, a 2nd, pretty close

Anyways Columbus needs a center

Toronto needs a right shot D columbus has extra D and with expansion coming.

Columbus acquires Bozak, Holland, WSH 2nd, Corrado

Toronto acquires Savard, 2017 3rd.

21 Jun 2016 14:28:33
Savard is not good. He's a 4-6 and there's lots of free agents you could go after. Jason demers is a viable option.

21 Jun 2016 14:40:59
Columbus says no. Savard is very under rated.

21 Jun 2016 14:48:30
Savard may be one of the most underrated players, really solid two-way defender. A good number 3 or a stellar number 4.

21 Jun 2016 16:39:43
Ha the only defenceman on Toronto that is better than Savard is Reilly. And don't go giving me shit about Jake Gardiner, he's a #4 on his best day.

21 Jun 2016 07:19:54
Canucks trade:
-Emerson Etem

Penguins trade:
-Beau Bennett

/
Also if PLD is pick 4th I wouldn't mind see the Canucks move down a few spots and pick up a couple extra picks and select one of Brown or Jost.

21 Jun 2016 15:09:47
I'd take Tkachuk a run if he fall to 4 but that's my opinion.

21 Jun 2016 02:26:31
PIT: Fluery

CAL: 35th Overall Pick 2016.

21 Jun 2016 04:18:41
CGY Counters with #56 overall.

21 Jun 2016 04:32:37
Calgary adds a sweetner

21 Jun 2016 04:45:30
Fleury isn't a terrible goalie at all. Stop underrating him. He was number 1 until his concussion while the coach stuck with the hot goalie sidelining fleury. he's only being traded cause of the expansion plus being replaced by murray a younger goalie soon to be his replacement anyway. i'm sure penguins could get a way better return than #56 overall. If you want a number 1 goalie you got to pay more than that. i'm sure more teams are also in line.

21 Jun 2016 05:26:20
Add klimchuk or kylington and it fair.

21 Jun 2016 12:42:06
Fleury has a history of concussions, he's on the wrong side of 30 and he's making close to $6 mil. #56 and Klim would be a fair assessment, but I still think Flames should run at another younger goalie.

Unless Gillies turns into a real starter soon, then Fleury would be safe.

20 Jun 2016 20:20:09
CLB and PIT are have real cap issues. CGY isn't nearly as bad and can help both while improving on the ice.
It's been reported that the NHLPA will use the escalator which could bring the cap to about $72.77 mil. CLB needs to sign Seth Jones. PIT is already projected to be over the cap t start the season (via Generalfanager)
I'll mention right now that the real assets gained by both CLB and PIT are primarily cap savings so please consider this when commenting. This is a complicated trade.

To PIT: #34 (CLB), #66 (CGY), L. Bouma (CGY)

To CLB: #6 (CGY), #54 (CGY), MA Fleury (PIT), J. Colborne (CGY)

To CGY: #3 (CLB), S. Bobrovsky (CLB) - ($1.425 retained) , S. Hartnell

CLB- gets a $5mil cap savings (prior to resigning Colborne who I project to get $2.5 mil and can play all fwd positions. Add in their available cap space of around $4 mil, that gives plenty of space to resign Jones. Plus a top 10 pick to draft Brown or Keller for their #1 C (future) position and another 2nd rnd pick, and a replacement #1 G.
PIT- gets a heart and soul 3-4 liner signed for 2 more years and 2 extra draft picks that they were lacking in as well as $3.55 in cap savings.
CGY- gets the #3 pick they covet
(Puljujarvi), Hartnell to play on the LW and a starting G.

CGY will have to buy out Raymond, but will still be able to resign Johnny and Mony to a combined $14 mil as well as Nakladal, Wotherspoon, Ortio, and Jooris @ $750,000- $1 mil each. They will also have to do a paper transaction of Bennett to the minors to start the season to be under the cap, and then place Smid on LTIR to be under the cap by just under $3.5 mil
All caps work, all teams are tight, but doable. Thoughts?

20 Jun 2016 23:10:21
Thought it would be dumb but is actually not bad, if three team trades were more common this would actually make sense,

21 Jun 2016 01:44:13
Good post

21 Jun 2016 02:10:04
Brobovsky> Flury CLB losses this bad terrible.

21 Jun 2016 02:43:45
I am pretty sure there is way to much cap going to Calgary. They still have to resign Gaudreau and Monahan and only have around 20 mil in cap space.

21 Jun 2016 02:46:21
Calgary gets a lot more value than Columbus and Pittsburgh.

21 Jun 2016 12:53:40
Calgary takes this and runs and never turns back. But with cap they can't do this.

 
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