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01 Sep 2014 18:06:37
chara should go it can help our cap situation and get a good return something like
to buf: chara kelly paille 2015 4th
to bos: gorges and gionta + prospect
dal: chara kelly paille
bos: hemsky daley +prospect
edm: chara kelly 2015 4th
bos: fayne purcell
next 2 are stretches
lak: chara paille kelly 2015 2nd
bos: gaborik greene
nyr: chara marchand kelly 2015 3rd
bos: mcdonogh nash
pit: chara kelly 2015 3rd
bos: ehroff dupios
sjs: chara, marchand
stl: chara kelly
bos: shattenkirk tarasenko
tbl:chara 2015 1st 2016 5th
van: chara kelly 2015 3rd
Bos: edler, burrows
that it lmk what u think
That rangers trade.lol
You really don't like chara
So you're saying that Callahan is worth more than shattenkirk and tarasenko combined?
i agree more should be added to shattenkirk and tarasenko deal but I think tbl is more unwilling to part ways with callahand than stl is with tarasenko and shattenkirk
31 Aug 2014 20:40:08
PENS EARLY SEASON MOVES:
Invite Dustin Penner to camp.
If he does well then he would be on the top pairing with Kunitz-Crosby, otherwise we place Kapanen there.
Keep in mind that Mike Johnston stated that Derrick Pouliot, although a full two weeks behind Maata in recovery, will most likely be ready for training camp. Therefore, they will both be ready for puck drop on Oct. 9 vs ANA.
ex. Scuderi, Despres
Fleury and Greiss will fight for #1 position.
Kunitz and Hornquist swapping in front of net, Crosby on half boards
Letang and Malkin on the point
Hornquist in front of net, Sutter and Kapanen on half boards
Pouliot and Ehroff on the point
The pens will be a much more physical team this year who will be willing to give the body.
Mike is a coach who can make decisions on the fly and adjust his lines mid game in order to take advantage of certain situations.
Im guessing that they go 55-20-7. They have built a team that will survive even if they are hit with a plague of injuries.
Wow Scudari is already a HS? What a bad signing
30 Aug 2014 17:55:11
tomas plekanec, micheal bournival, Zach fucale to pitts for pascal dupuis, Brandon sutter and Tristan jarry
helps solve Pittsburgh cap trouble and Crosby doesn't have to play against plekanec anymore which he hates.habs are deep at center and can improve their right wing position yes sutter can also play right wing.
Pittsburgh wins that's big time, habs say no
What about adding a first from Pittsburgh and a 2nd from montreal
dupuis,sutter,jarry 1st 2015 to montreal for plekanec,bournival,fucale 2nd 2015
30 Aug 2014 16:49:27
PIT: Simon Despres
CGY: Sven Bartschi
Calgary's management was disgruntled with Bartschi's play last year and they could possibly look to trade him.
Pittsburgh trades Despres since they have Maata, Poliout, Harrington, Samuelsson and Dumoulin as other good young defense prospects. And they are in need of a young forward prospect.
Great trade IMO
30 Aug 2014 19:13:12
Good idea it makes a lot of sense to me
Certainly a decent trade, but I don't think Calgary is ready to give up on Baertschi yet.
30 Aug 2014 16:19:05
PIT: Brian Dumoulin, 2016 3rd
TBL: Brett Connelly
Pittsbugh has a surplus of defensive prospects and is really lacking on forwards prospect. Plus Connelly is most likely nhl ready and has the potential to be a top 6 forward in the right situation.
Tampa Bay has a lot of young nhl ready forwards and Connelly is most likely not going to get a shot in the top 6. Dumoulin is ready to be a 5 or 6 dman and has potential to be a top 4 defenseman.
30 Aug 2014 17:05:13
Tampa doesn't really need another defensemen, but I'd to it since we get the additional pick
Good post but I think it's more like a 5th round pick going to Tampa bay
Or Despres straight up for Connelly?
30 Aug 2014 03:55:23
Pit: Kunitz, Bennett and a 1st 2015
30 Aug 2014 08:08:22
Why would PIT give up all that?
I really like Kane, but it's kind of unlikely that he will find even better chemistry with Crosby than Kunitz.
So why trade Kunitz and a good prospect and a 1st in a good draft?
Only pro is that Kane is younger.
Kane isn't only younger, his ceiling is waaay higher than Kunitz or Bennet could ever hope to reach. Every other Kane post you say "not even close" This is fair value especially considering the 1st will probably be 25-30. Trycreating a post once in a while instead of just dumping on everyones I deas Draisaitl
I apologize for that last one. Feel like a turd after fighting with the ol lady this morn. Shouldn't take it out on anyone here. Chirp is supposed to be our rude dude lol.
30 Aug 2014 16:06:56
I think if you change the 1st to 2016 or make it a 2015 2nd
30 Aug 2014 16:09:53
Also, we need Bennett since he is still on a cheap contract and we don't have many other promising young forwards.
Wow good on you hgg.its hard to hold ones self accountable. It's so much harder to come up with a reasonable trade idea then it is to dump on them and I don't remember the last time draisaitl posted one.
I actually thought people would be saying no from Wpg, due to Kunitz's age , Bennett is a good young player but I doubt he'll be as good as Kane and a late 1st. I also disagree, I think Kane will have better chemistry with Crosby and Malkin than Kunitz.
30 Aug 2014 17:57:31
If TOR or MON or whoever tries to trade for Kane on this site would give the pieces PIT gives here, I'd never say its not enough.
That would be 2015 1st, good prospect (Gauthier for the Leafs or Scherbak for the Habs) + a player putting up Kunitz's numbers.
No problem then, go ahead, I won't complain bout that.
But when I see Franson, Reimer and 3rd for Kane, that's just a bad deal and nothing else.
Btw: I did post a lot trades a while ago, normally you should be able to see my last 5 by clicking on my username,I guess.
Who suggested a franson,reimer,3rd round pick for johansen. I didn't see that one.oh I get it,you made up a example that is not comparable to what has actually been posted recently.very clever draisaitl.
01 Sep 2014 18:10:01
I did. And it doesn't matter who exactly it was, there were numerous trades of Johansen to the Leafs (or habs) for a joke of a return.
29 Aug 2014 15:50:05
PIT: Paul Martin, Brandon Sutter, and 2015 conditional 3rd (becomes 2nd if Martin doesn't resign)
SJ: Patrick Marleau
San Jose is looking to possibly trade Marleau and they get a top 2/3 defenseman, great 3rd line center with 2nd line potential and a draft pick in one of the greatest drafts in years.
Pittsburgh gets a veteren top 6 winger that they need and a good goal scorer
I think both teams do that trade. Great proposal
19 Aug 2014 22:41:05
To Nashville: John Moore, 3rd
To NY Rangers: Colin Wilson
To Edmonton: The Rights To Brandon Sutter, 2nd
To Pittsburgh: Nail Yakupov
To Carolina: 1st
To Pittsburgh: Jiri Tlusty, 6th
To Ottawa: Sergei Gonchar, Cody Eakin, 2nd
To Dallas: Bobby Ryan
To Boston: Evander Kane
To Winnipeg: Brad Marchand, Johnny Boychuk
I like that Boston trade
20 Aug 2014 12:25:25
Sutter is already signed, so rights to is wrong.
1st is too much for Tlusty
And Kane is worth more, Boychuk is basically useless for WPG since WPG isn't in win now for this season and Boychuk is a FA at years end
Not enough for Yak or Ryan
I like the idea of Yakupov having a change of scenery. Pitt would have to give up something else though.
The Ryan proposal makes me sick. We DON'T need another centre.
Nova x 65
yak for sutter and pouliot?
Ryan for olesiak and a 1st
21 Aug 2014 00:50:50
Boston trade. take away one or the other and throw in a pick. maybe. Ottawa politely declines their trade. They don't need or want Gonchar.
Wouldn't want to give up Poulliet plus he has more value right now because he won chl d-man of the year
19 Aug 2014 21:49:48
To Calgary: Marcel Goc
To Pittsburgh: 3rd, Conditional 5th (If Goc Resigns)
To Toronto: Christopher Higgins, Jannik Hansen, 2nd or 3rd
To Vancouver: Peter Holland, Petri Kontiola
Goc would be a good fit in Calgary but Toronto doesn't have the cap room and lots of third line wingers.
Nucks decline. It would be the leafs adding the pick if anything
20 Aug 2014 14:54:19
Holland is showing to be a very talented young C which the leafs need. We know nothing about Kontiola and he could be a very good #3 C for us this year. I'm pretty sure the leafs won't trade those players to gamble on two older bottom 6 players that we already have too many of.
Higgins is 31 and Hansen is 27 not exactly old? And they have both proven to be very serviceable players who can jump up and down your lineup and can play in every situation.
20 Aug 2014 17:56:08
Holland: 17 points in 68 games.
Kontoila: hasn't played an NHL game since 08.
Hansen: 151 points in 389, +34.
Higgins: 293 points in 601.
Im pretty sure the Canucks won't trade 2 vets for 2 players with a combined 22 points.
Holland and Kontiola can both turn out to be busts. Higs and Hansen are both NHL regulars.
Leafs would have to throw in a first rounder as well, and the Canucks would drop their 2nd or 3rd.
To Toronto: Higgins, Hansen
To Vancouver: Holland, Kontiola, 1st 2015.
20 Aug 2014 18:03:43
I never said they were old, I said they were older (than Holland and Kontiola)
Holland is signed for about 800 k per for next two years then rfa.hes got some potential the leafs should keep him
No thanks from toronto ace.toronto doesn't need these players and they don't want to overpay
I know I posted this but a 1st in 15 u on weed?
20 Aug 2014 23:24:20
@Ace You obviously don't realize how much that Leafs first rounder is worth
That's a finish your drink! GNG
You don't trade a 1st for a couple average players.
Ace your gone by. Maybe the top pick in 2015 for garbage. You know absolutely nothing about hockey
19 Aug 2014 21:18:30
Bunch of trades I thought of:
20 Aug 2014 04:07:10
Id do the leafs san jose one in a heart beat, but would never happen
^ why would the leafs want niemi?
20 Aug 2014 12:30:11
Can someone explain the point of the Lightning trade to me?
Bolts give up two good young pieces in Panik and especially Killorn and a solid veteran in Morrow for getting back 3 players that are between 4th liners and AHL?
20 Aug 2014 14:58:07
You're missing the real piece of the puzzle-- Clarkson gone!!
Who cares what we get back as long as he's gone. Niemi would replace Reimer and could teach Bernier a thing or 2. Biggs is a bust, 4th rounder has minimal value and I'd take wingels over Clarkson any day.
20 Aug 2014 15:57:24
^ur name is stupid, but you're totally right
20 Aug 2014 16:37:01
^its not that I want niemi, I don't want clarkson, that trade would be great for the leafs, just flip niemi for a pick
@Draisaitl94 Lightning is above the cap. This trade would get them below it.
In fact, most of these trades are because of cap space
Mattias ohlunds contract won't count towards Tampa bay's cap so they actually have some cap space
20 Aug 2014 19:22:48
1. Lightning are like 1.9M over the cap right now, but they have yet to LTIR Mathias Ohlund and it carries 9 dmen, at least 1, prolly 2 will be sent down, so after this, they will nearly 3M under the cap, so no need to move any salaries.
2. IF the Lightning would have to get under the cap, SY sure would fine a better deal than this one, or he just would not have signed Morrow.
@Draisaitl_94 Fair enough.
Hansen is one of the best all o' round players in the NHL and still young!
17 Aug 2014 00:39:25
Okay, did Winnipeg, now for Ottawa.
To Pittsburgh - Bobby Ryan
To Ottawa - Sutter, Pouliot, and 2015 1st
The Penguins are desperate to find someone to play with Malkin now that Neal is gone. Thier window to win will start closing in a couple years and the west is just getting stronger. Ryan has one year left on his contract and would possibly be happy to consider a big money extension to play with superstars rather than explore UFA. Rutherford will have cap issues but he has time to work something out. For Ottawa, they will lose Ryan to UFA so should have a chance to get what the Canucks were after for Kessler.
To Chicago - Phillips, 2015 2nd from Dallas
To Sens - Hjalmarsson
Chicago gets a great Dman for playoff hump with still 2 years on contract, and about 2 million in salary cap relief. Sens get steady Dman with lots of affordable term left. Sens D is set.
To Minnesota - Anderson
To Sens - Neiderreiter and Gustafsson
Wild have bad luck with goalies. They get one to help them compete now and develop Kuemper. Sens gamble on some scoring and get a back up with some potential
Ok, rip in!
IMO they all favor the sens, one is worse then the others but what can u ask for? Everyone has some sort of bias that's why I refrain from posting habs rumors.
17 Aug 2014 07:29:22
Think so too.
Sens get the better end of all deals.
They are not terribly one-sided, but its always a bit much going back to the sens, considering Ryan will be an UFA, Philips is like a million yrs old and Anderson did struggle with both health and play last season.
Way too much for Ryan (UFA 2015)
Sutter is going to be a +40 point man and Pouliot is their future in defense
Pitts/Ott trade is decent. I think that one has legs because Sutter is a good addition and Pouliot looks like a solid prospect, and the 1st will likely be pretty late next year. For the Pens, they'd get a great winger for Malkin or Crosby. Damn, with either player they'd have a runaway hit on their hands. Personal bests would happen easily for Ryan.
The other two trades are pretty damn bad tho.
Oh my word that trade for Ryan is very bad and its not even the worst trade in the deal. Why would the hawks trade Hjalmarson for a guy that a lot of sens think shouldn't even be on their opening night roster and a 2nd?
We don't need a centre and we don't need defensemen. We need a top 6 or a top line winger. Why would we trade what we need away for players we don't need?
Nova x 65
I'm not too sure, I think Ottawa has needs all over the place, although I think you're right about the big hole on the right side. Problem is finding a top 6 scoring winger that someone will part with for Ryan. Maybe see if a package around McArthur could get Marchand out of Boston that could work. I think if the Sens got Sutter in a Ryan deal, they could slot him in behind Turris, drop Legwand to center the 3rd line, and move Zibanejad to RW on the 1st or second line. The defence is in better shape, and the Chicago trade was the most far-fetched IMO, maybe that deal has to be sweetened to include a solid prospect (not Lazar).
It's hard to trade a guy like Spezza, not get a top 6 center in return, and feel that this position is a team strength. Also Charles Xavier, I love your passion but I'd love to hear a bit more narrative to go with your critique about the Ryan trade. The devil is in the details!
No from Pittsburgh, they need to stop trading the few good young assets they have for rental players IMO.no from Chicago value is not even close IMO no from Minnesota because stone cold says so
14 Aug 2014 15:24:36
I think Evander Kane would look great playing LW with Evgeni Malkin.
WNG: Evander Kane, Dustin Byfuglien
PIT: 1st Round Pick 2015, Scott Harrington, Beau Bennett, Marc-Andre Fleury, 3rd Round Pick 2016
(I'm having a hard time with the value and if you guys could provide what needs to happen that would help :)
Penguins Top 6
I have also thought about the Penguins acquiring a second line center, moving Malkin to the wing with Crosby. Malkin isn't great on face offs and this could bring back Malkin's goal scoring that saw him reach 50 before.
Thanks for reading
14 Aug 2014 17:13:23
Only if griess manages to play better than fleury, so doubtful
Byfuglien doesn't wanna play forward
Sure your top 6 might be good, but then who is in net for the pens?
Pens don't have the Cap Space
So its not possible, look at available Cap Space before posting people, the NHL is a Cap League
Byfuglien isn't a forward!
13 Aug 2014 18:36:17
Just some trades I have thought of.
This depends on the state of the goaltending of both teams. If San jose wants to get younger, if the Penguins aren't comfortable with Fleury. Low risk, potential high reward for both teams. Both are UFA's after this season. Both are cup champs. Interesting proposal.
OTT: 1st Round Pick, Watson, Wilson
TOR: Jurco, 5th Round Pick
EDM: 3rd Round Pick, Nillsson
Any changes or suggestions?
13 Aug 2014 21:28:00
TOR adds the pick, Jurco > Franson
Franson won't get you that.
To much for Ryan
14 Aug 2014 03:24:21
I like them both from a leafs standpoint
15 Aug 2014 23:20:58
Putting aside the fact both of the Leafs trades are good from a leafs standpoint, good on you for thinking of fair trades for all teams involved. Not necessarily filling everyone's needs, but in terms of value no one gets the shaft. Anyone who says different are just mad that their favourite player was traded.
11 Aug 2014 16:59:42
Okay this is likely NOT to happen but the value is pretty fair and maybe in 5 years one of these players my request to be traded.
To Washington: Malkin
To Pittsburgh: Ovichkin
Ovi would have a better chance for chasing a cup with Crosby
And Malkin gets to be a number one centre.
Washington also gets a forward who back checks and will play defense (nothing personal to Ovi maybe Trotz will change that who knows)
11 Aug 2014 17:56:31
Centres hold a much higher value than wingers; especially wingers who literally cannot play defense to save their life.
Instead I'd do backstrom + green for malkin + dupuis
Stamkos 91, whatever you're smoking you need to get off of it ASAP! If u think backstrom and a cap dump will get u Malkin that's blasphemous.
08 Aug 2014 19:13:45
Ideal remaining of summer moves by the Penguins
Sign Jimmy Hayes
*More involved maybe?
PIT: Dupuis and a 4th
SJ: Torres and Brown
Extras: Comeau and Adams
Team has good depth. Vets with some youth. Odds of it happening are unlikely. But yah never know. Team built better for the playoffs?
I Belive you mean Kevin Hayes cause jimmy Hayes plays for florida and sucks
Comeau over Brown?
-don't think canucks would do that cause they have plenty of 3rd liners already and not many young defencemen.
-I do think it's close in value (not sure if either adds)
The penguins don't need Tanev they have plenty d that can make the nhl Poulliet Harrinton dumolien
Well aware of that, but how many of them can play the right side since they are all leftys? Its good in theory, but a lot of guys have trouble playing the right side when they are leftys. Ehrhoff can play both sides effectively hence why he is on the right side in my post.
07 Aug 2014 04:37:01
Oilers' future lineup
Yet to be drafted/Fayne-Nurse
To Buffalo: Gernat,Musil,
To Oilers:2nd round draft pick
Fasth goes to the KHL,
Boyd Gordon KHL
Matt Hendricks depth/4th liner
Andrew Ference retired
Mark Arcobello traded for a pick.
Will Acton Free Agent
Oilers: Vitale, 6th
Lander doesn't fit on the Oilers line-up, he doesn't put up points, and doesn't hit. And cannot win face-offs.
Forgot to add this but Nikitin is in the top 6 instead of Davidson, Davidson is depth.
Arcobello for Detroits 5th, if he's going to play more than 30 games in the NHL (in the first season) EDM Gets 6th.
Arcobello did a hell of a lot in EDM last season. Je shouldbt be traded quickly
Joe Vitale just signed with the Arizona coyotes this offseason
02 Aug 2014 07:14:46
BUF: Myers, Stafford
Pens have some depth issues, which would be helped by Stafford, and they get a possible top defenseman in Myers. For the small price of a 2nd line centre who only put up 72 points in 60 games.
I hope this proposal is a joke
More like Malkin for the entire Sabres roster
31 Jul 2014 23:03:17
To Pittsburgh: Draisaitl and Rights to Schultz
To Edmonton: Letang, Rights to Sutter and 2nd
Draisaitl would fit perfectly behind Crosby and Malkin
Schultz is way cheaper than Letang but has less experience
Letang fills their top 2 roll perfect and Sutter is their immediate help at #2C
Ehrhoff off could mention and help Draisaitl
Why would they trade Draisaitl? From now on, I am not even reading your trades.
^ your trades aren't any better
31 Jul 2014 22:57:22
To Pittsburgh: Subban
To Montreal: Letang and Conditional 2nd
Letang is signed for 7.5m and Subban is asking for 8.5
Habs would save 1m
Is saving $1mil really worth giving up Subban? No, no it isn't. Would be a terrible move for MTL
Maybe if habs got a first because Letang is too injury prone.
30 Jul 2014 19:18:37
To SJS: Sutter, Harrington, 2nd 2015
To PENS: Pavelski
I would say that this is even, this is similar value that the pens got for Staal. Sutter had not proven himself then, Harrington has more value than dumoulin did, and the pick is worse because of the reasons above.
30 Jul 2014 20:27:53
i guess the value is there, but I can see SJ doing it
30 Jul 2014 20:47:56
With what cap space?
Who replaces Sutter on the 3rd line? If they get Pavelski, he would probably play winger on Crosby or Malkin's line. They'd be foolish to play him on the 3rd.
Why would pits trade for a center
Pavelski is the most underrated player in the NHL.
HE SCORED 40 LAST YEAR
He won't be traded for a slightly above average third line center, a good prospect and a second round pick.
Not to mention he can play wing or center, a power play player, and fantastic penalty killer?
He is also fairly young. He is a part of San Jose's future and when San Jose wins the cup he will be a key piece for that team.
29 Jul 2014 20:09:44
TO canucks: letang
TO penguins: markstrom and jensen and 4 round pick and 2 round pick plus jeff cassel
Why do the Pens need another goalie? They already have Fleury, Greiss, and Zatkoff. Not to mention they have Jarry in juniors.
@ Cpt. Nutjob
I can see one scenario where they would need another goalie but its not at the present moment. If Fluery underperforms again this year (especially come playoff time) he can kiss Pitssburgh goodbye and Markstrom (pending further development) could be the new guy they go to with Lack most likely backing up Ryan Miller. All that aside, I'm not big on the trade either.
Is that supposed to be Cole Cassels?
Who is Jeff Cassel? Unless you mean COLE CasselS
28 Jul 2014 00:58:39
To EDM: Marcel Goc
To Penguins: Lander,2015 6th round, 2016 5th round
Dude, I´m German and can say, that this would be too much for EDM to get Goc.
Give PIT a 2015 4th round pick an a 2016 6th round pick!
What does you being German have to do with anything? I know Goc is German too but those two facts have zero to do with his trade value
27 Jul 2014 23:17:37
To Oilers: Marcel Goc
To Penguins: 2016 2nd round pick, Lander, 2015 6th round pick
Pens accept in a heartbeat
They only gave third and fifth round picks for him and they were in the later parts of each round. Edmonton is likely choosing in the earlier parts of each round. Goc isn't that great.
I know, but he is one of the defensive center's would be a great deal from the Oilers.
27 Jul 2014 21:55:09
Davy desharnais for pens 1 round pick
Hes not even close to being worth a 1st
Try a 3rd
DD Will get you 2nd at best
28 Jul 2014 07:18:20
you're always going around saying gesharnais has no vlaue, now you say he's worth a 1st?
Remember that the 1st rounder are very valuable at this point compared to when they know the order of their picks. I believe DD is worth a 20-30 overall pick but not a top 20 in that case no trade for a first rounder will be made for DD at the moment
Guide for HabS fans
Moen = no more than a 6th
DD = no more than a 3rd
Budaj = no more than a 5th
Also: Beaulieu, Tinordi, and Eller are nothing special and (even all three) are not worth guys like Duchene, E. Kane, Hall, O'Reilly, or Giroux so try and make it less one sided when you post. Thank you.
26 Jul 2014 20:18:10
PIT: Malkin, Letang, Sutter, Bennett
MTL: Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacioretty, Subban, Fucale, 1st 2015, 1st 2016, 2nd 2016
What Montreal is giving up gives them a better oppurtunity to win then what Pittsburg has coming our way. Not to mention the future without picks will be tough. Doesn't make sense for either team since Pittsburg wants to win now and not wait for stars to develop.
From Montreal's standpoint it doesn't help them much.
Ahahah ah while you're add it we can give you are organisation!
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