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28 Jul 2015 16:49:59
Breaking Rumor:
PIT - VAN

Pittsburgh: Brandon Sutter and a 3rd round pick.

Vancouver: Nick Bonino, Adam Clendening, and '16 2nd round pick.

28 Jul 2015 17:22:22
That better be Anaheim's 2nd. Hopefully this means Horvat gets more offensive opportunities this year.

28 Jul 2015 17:27:58
Confirmed! Great trade for pens

28 Jul 2015 18:42:05
Good for both teams.

Pittsburgh replaces sutter with a cheaper alternative, frees up cap space and signs fehr. Its a big move for pens, their biggest weakness was lack of depth. They need a 3rd line to support the top 6 now they may have it.

Vancouver gets a legit 3rd line center and now horvat can move up and take on the second line center role.

I have seen a lot of Canucks fans upset about this but this move makes your team better in the sense that Horvat will now have a bigger roll.

28 Jul 2015 18:33:54
It's not a rumor anymore, it's an official trade.

28 Jul 2015 22:08:18
Great deal for both sides. I believe we see Sutter and Horvat play 2nd line center at some point this season.

29 Jul 2015 01:17:15
It's ANA 2nd and BUF 3rd so not a big trade off. Clendenning has top 6 potential but would struggle to keep an NHL job. Rather have Sutter then Bonino. As a nucks fan I'm ok with this trade.

29 Jul 2015 13:58:12
According to NHL.com there is a condition on the 3rd that Pittsburgh is sending

28 Jul 2015 16:43:43
Vancouver trades Bonino, Clendening and a 2nd rd pick to Pittsburgh for Sutter and a 3rd rd pick

Pittsburgh signs Eric Fehr 3 years AAV of 2 mil

Mitch Marner signs his ENTRY LVL Deal with the Leafs

28 Jul 2015 18:42:24
Good moves for everyone

28 Jul 2015 13:39:27
Penguins: Chris Kunitz, rob scuderi, 2016 2nd, 2017 4th
Flyers: Luke schenn, Brayden schenn

Chris Kunitz and Rob scuderi could be traded away for other assets like pics/prospects, plus they get a 2016 2nd. Luke schen can help with Pittsburghs d, Brayden can fill in with the offence.



Thoughts?

28 Jul 2015 18:43:43
you will see luke and brayden schenn in Calgary within the next year, calling it now.

26 Jul 2015 15:58:51
Desharnais, Dsp for orlov

(with loses to gilbert and emelin in other two trades montreal needs some depth on d and washington gets a decent player that puts up points and can play in top 9 as well as a more gritty player that can replace joel ward for cheap)

Gilbert for versteeg

( almost same cap hit and adresses both team needs as chicago could use some bodies on d and montreal needs abit more skill upfront)

Emelin, 2nd for kunitz

(pittsburgh weak on d with loses of martin and erhoff and kunitz is on decline but montreal need offense and montreal can retain abit of cap hit)

Pacioretty. Galchenyuk. Semin
Kunitz. Plekanec. Gallagher
Versteeg. Eller. Kassian
De la rose. Mitchell. Wiese
Flynn

Beaulieu. Subban
Markov. Petry
Orlov. Pateryn
Tinordi

Price
Tokarski

Let hudon,mccarron,scherbak and other young players develop together in ahl like tampa did and they will replace the aging players on the roster in next 2 years

26 Jul 2015 18:21:24
I do like these trades, especially the Versteeg for Gilbert trade because that was on of the first trades I proposed on this site. The Emelin one is a bit iffy though because the Pens already got a defenceman similar to Emelin in Scuderi. So idk if that trade would happen only because of him. Plus I think the Canadiens would need to retain on Desharnais (1mil maybe).

And for the Lineups I would think that Gallagher would switch with Semin so that the top line has that hard forechecker to get the puck for Pacioretty and Galchenyuk, plus Semin woul have a great person to set him up in Plakenec.

And Montreal should let their best prospects wait in the AHL instead of rushing them.

24 Jul 2015 04:16:54
Just some random thoughts

Penguins will sign Alex Semin 1 year, 1 mil-2.5mil range

Gives Semin a chance for a bounce back
year and certainly can only go up from here. Could get a boost playing with Geno.

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Might be more realistic at the trade deadline if Nucks are out and Stars and Habs are making a playoff push.

Van-Dal

Canucks trade - Dan Hamhuis & Chris Higgins

Stars trade - Jamie Oleksiak, Ales Hemsky, 2016 1st & 2017 3rd


Van-Mon

Canucks trade Radim Vrbata & 2016 4th

Canadiens trade 2016 2nd(MTL) , 2016 2nd(BUF) & Michael Bournival

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Seeing lots of JVR rumors lately. Some are saying he won't but moved but I could see it happening.

Tor-Nsh

Leafs trade JVR & Roman Polak

Predators trade Kevin Fiala , Ryan Ellis, 2016 1st & 2017 2nd

This trade will also probably have to wait till around deadline aswell but what do I know

24 Jul 2015 07:46:49
Doubt it would be to Nashville tbh.

24 Jul 2015 14:57:11
I think montreal takes out one of the 2nd rounders and vancouver takes out the 4th

24 Jul 2015 17:50:39
Looks like I was wrong with Semin, he signed with habs 1 yr 1.1mil. Good smart move by Bergevin. Low risk high reward signing, if this moves fails oh well life goes on for Montreal if not they get a piece that could be a valuable addition.

24 Jul 2015 20:49:44
Good post:

I like the first because it seems very realistic, the second one needs retooling maybe take out Buffalo's second and change the player from Bournival to someone else, and the third one I don't think Nashville would trade Fiala.

But once again good post

14 Jul 2015 16:00:11
leafs and flyers should trade

leafs lupal finn and Pitts conditional 1st

flyers Lecavalier l.schenn and b schenn and Scott laughton

reason flyers get lupal they need a second line scored and with lupal if healthy can do that a decent d prospect with offensive upside and a late 1st and flyers dump salery to re up del zotto

leafs get 2 bad contracts in Lecavalier but he can be a leader to young people show Kadri and some kids how to be a pro Luke would be a bottom pairing d man makes polak tradable for assets and leafs get b schenn a decent player with a bit of upside and a really good prospect in laughton to put in the group of budding young stars they are trying to get

leafs could trade polak bozak 1.5 retained and a 2nd round pick to stl for rattie

st gets a bottom pairing smen that knows the system to help them get over the hump bozak at 3 mill for a 3rd line center and a pick. bozak would replace berglund if they traded

leafs get another young top 6 forward stl has prospects so they can spare one

14 Jul 2015 16:43:33
Wow your delusional and this coming for a guy with the name - TML4FYL!!

14 Jul 2015 17:22:52
Those are 3 of the guys who can play 2nd line centre for Philly all put into one package, and don't say Courtirier would play 2nd cause he's not a #2 he's a 3rd line centre.

14 Jul 2015 19:20:03
Philly gets robbed. L. Schenn's only got one year left so it's really only one bad contract. The Schenn's are both still young. Take out Laughton and it looks a little better. I'd do it in a heartbeat.

14 Jul 2015 20:05:28
Lupul is an often Injured winger who carries a 5+ cap hit.

B. Schenn and Laughton are promising young Centres that Philly is in no rush to part with

L. Schenn has been a disappointment for bout the Flyers and the Leafs, but he does log some 2nd-3rd pairing minutes that the Flyers can't really replace with anyone just yet

Lecavalier's contract is too steep as is, and I doubt TML will be trading a proven winger like Lupul, a 1st rnd, and a promising defensive prospect for an aging Centre who's best season now could lead to 40 Pts.

On top of all that, Flyera are loaded with defensive prospects right now and don't need another one in Fin

12 Jul 2015 10:25:18
Vancouver - Toronto

Canucks trade Derek Dorsett and Sven Barteschi to the Maple Leafs for Tyler Bozak and a 2016 3rd Rd pick (Obtained From Pittsburgh)

12 Jul 2015 14:06:38
Canucks have zero interest in Bozak. Also they just resigned Dorsett he won't be traded yet

09 Jul 2015 21:37:14
Penguins: Johan Franzen (1m retained)
Detroit: Beau Bennett, '16 conditional 2nd (If Franzen plays a full season and scores more than 30 points), '17 3rd

Beau did not turn out as the Pens hoped.
He didn't score a goal in more than 40/50 NHL games. But he is still young and a very speedy forward selected somewhere from 20-27th in the first round.

Johan Franzen has not played a full NHL season for 3 years now. He is getting older and his value is sinking. But still, he has shown that even at his age he can put up points. Franzen does have a lot of salary (3.9 per year until 2020)

Detroit: Mitch Moroz, Iiro Pakarinen
Edmonton: Teemu Pulkennen

Moroz is a talented winger that is a power forward and can put up points on the board. You don't see a lot of young guys doing that. Although he was nearly invisible in the AHL last year. Scoring around 7 points in total in his rookie year. Meanwhile Iiro Pakarinen has a potential future in the NHL. He is a very skilled for a finnish-player selected in the 7th round. He can be s regular-time NHLer if developed properly (he is still 23).

Teemu can get that competition going for the Edmonton Oilers. We can also expect him and Tyler Pitlick battling for a spot on the roster this season. (Wow, look at me talk about the competition on the OILERS, honestly in my view I see Chiarrelli as a magnificent man).

10 Jul 2015 11:03:46
So on a team that is already very under sized at forward you want to give away two of our bigger potential power forward prospects for another small forward? Good thing we actually have some hockey minds at the helm here.

10 Jul 2015 11:15:12
Way to much for Franzen especially with the injury history and that doesn't get you Pulkinen.

06 Jul 2015 20:58:00
Pit: david desharnais
Mtl: chris kunitz

Pit: brandon sutter and rob scuderi
Flo: connor brickley and 3rd round pick

Lineup

Perron crosby kessel
Plotnikov malkin kessel
Dupuis desharnais bennett
Wilson sundqvist rust

Maatta letang
Pouliot lovejoy
Dumoulin cole

Fleury
Zatkoff

06 Jul 2015 23:20:03
Hahaha you do réalise that kessel is on your two first Line?
Is already out of shape This is a plan to put it in to coma

06 Jul 2015 23:33:45
So you downgrade in center and add a pick and prospect? I'm not sure if that's what PIT wants. Also Kessel isn't in good enough shape for two lines.

07 Jul 2015 03:04:54
You have two kessel's their bud

07 Jul 2015 03:48:13
Where's hornqvist

07 Jul 2015 05:34:23
Desharnies not worth that. Horny second line instead of Kessel I imagine.

04 Jul 2015 03:50:05
Pit: chris kunitz + beau bennett
Flo: vincent trochek

Pit: rob scuderi
Ari: 7th round pick

Lineup
Malkin crosby kessel
Perron sutter hornqvist
Plotnikov trochek dupuis
Wilson sundqvist rust

Maatta letang
Pouliot lovejoy
Dumoulin cole

Fleury
Zatkoff

07 Jul 2015 02:13:10
Kunitz and Bennett are ten times better than trochek

01 Jul 2015 17:57:19
Kessel to Pens DONE. Interested to see the return.

01 Jul 2015 18:26:58
Kessel, 2 unnamed non roster players for kapanen,Harrington, spaling and 2 draft picks ones a first

28 Jun 2015 04:46:30
If a deal between the leafs and Pens is completed this is the package that the leafs should try and acquire:


Tor: D Pouliot, D Maata, D Scuderi (salary dump and veteran presence for young D-Core), Kunitz/Dupuis(salary dump), 2016 first

Pit: F Kessel, D Polak

28 Jun 2015 07:26:36
XD
Holy cow.

28 Jun 2015 14:37:01
If Lucic get
lottery pick, good young goalie and a prospect

Kessel easily gets
Lottery pick, Additional pick(2nd), good prospect, young player

28 Jun 2015 17:31:45
Trading Pouliot would be a mistake.

28 Jun 2015 19:48:45
Pouliot OR Maatta and I still don't know whether the Pens say yes.

28 Jun 2015 01:52:31
Been reading around and found this

Pittsburgh offered

2016 1st round pick
Derrick Pouliot
Chris Kunitz
Rob Scuderi

for

Phil Kessel

Apparently and obviously Toronto declined or else it would've happened.

What do you think Pittsburgh would have to change to get it done?

2016 1st round pick
Derrick Pouliot
Olli Maata
David Perron / Chris Kunitz

I think that would be an overpayment by Pittsburgh but its something I could see the Leafs asking for and not budging.

28 Jun 2015 04:34:48
i agree its an oerpayment, and that's why it won't get done lol.

maybe: 1st + pouliot + bennett + kunitz + scuderi (both for cap like I asume they are) for kessel? idk, just trying to think of somethign TOR would want and that PIT may give up.

28 Jun 2015 04:57:40
Yeah, it's a lie.
Even Shanahan said (when this goofy rumor started) that no offer had been tabled and he'd only had convos (and not involving players, for you looking to read into nonsense)

28 Jun 2015 05:51:45
Wow. Your counter proposal is a joke. Not a chance on earth Pouliot and Maata are in the deal. i'm surprised they had Pouliot in the offer. Scuderi in because there has to be a cap dump going the other way.

28 Jun 2015 06:24:59
I am neither a Pens or Leafs fan but here would be my shot at a trade for Kessel.

Pens Trade: Olli Maata, Scott Harrington, Chris Kunitz, Rob Scuderi, Conditional 2nd 2017

Leafs Trade: Phil Kessel

The Condition is if Kessel reaches the point mark next season that he is normally capable of then, the 2nd pick becomes a 1st.


Why Pens Do this: Pittsburgh gets the elite winger who can play with Crosby.They get to keep prospects Kapanenn & Pouliot so their future isn't jeopardized. They also keep Sutter for Depth.

Why Leafs do this: Mark Hunter Loves his London Knights and gets two of his favorite D-men in Harrington & Maata. Harrington plays a strong Defensive game & Maata can play both ends of the ice. Adding These pieces will help the rebuild by making Phaneuf expendable and the decision of choosing Marner over Hanifin easier to overcome. Toronto has good Goaltending & now upgrades their defense which is a weakness. They take to vet players as cap dumps for their mistake but get a pick for the future. I would have done the picks for 2016 but Pens don't have that 2nd I believe.

Just an opinion, maybe Leafs add something small like a 3rd due to Maata's upside. Maata is also seen to possibly untouchable for the Pens but this could work. Thoughts?

28 Jun 2015 15:27:45
@yep

You're still on here? Just when this place was starting to get cleaned up too eh? Oh well.

26 Jun 2015 21:07:55
PIT: Jared Spurgeon, 3rd Round (2016)
MIN: Brandon Sutter

26 Jun 2015 04:22:53
Pit: ryan oreilly + chris bigras + 2nd round pick 2015
Ava: olli maatta + rob scuderi

Pens get top six player + a future replacement for maatta + a draft pick that they need
Avs get top pairing left handed defensemen they they need + a veteran dmen

Re-sign paul martin 2y/10m

25 Jun 2015 21:14:14
PIT: Kessel($1.5 million retained), Finn

TOR: Sutter, Pouliot, 2015 2nd, 2016 1st

25 Jun 2015 21:34:03
Take out the 1st.

26 Jun 2015 00:29:29
Not close, spare parts

26 Jun 2015 06:19:21
I agree with Draisaitl about taking out the 1st, but also take out Finn. Decent C, strong young Dman, and a 2nd. Good price for expensive lengthy Kessel contract (even with cash retained)

26 Jun 2015 13:42:52
Yeah, people seem to undervalue Pouliot. Guys going to be a stud

25 Jun 2015 19:57:05
The Penguins are apparently in on the Phil Kessel Trade talks, the main piece going to Toronto being a young Dman. I'd assume it's Derrick Pouliot.

TOR: Pouliot, Bennett, Scuderi (cap dump) 2nd round pick 2016
PIT: Kessel ( 25% retained)

The Leafs get a potential top pair Dman to play with Morgan Reilly for years to come, they get a young roster forward and a pick.

The Penguins get a legitimate 1st line winger to play with Crosby or Malkin.

With Kessel, Perron, Hornqvist and Kapanen coming up soon, the Penguins fill in a huge need on the wings.

Give me your thoughts.

25 Jun 2015 20:22:15
If I'm Toronto I hang up, block Rutherford out of my life and sue the Pittsburgh Penguins organization for defamation and emotional trauma.

Kessel will get more than that. Pittsburgh is not an ideal location for him anyway.

25 Jun 2015 20:26:37
I believe a 2016 first has to be included

25 Jun 2015 20:33:34
easy no form toronto not a good enough deal to take back a bad contract and retain a lot of kessels salary for the next 7 years. Leafs could do a lot better.

25 Jun 2015 21:04:30
Oh Kessel will easily get Malkin+, everybody knows that.

25 Jun 2015 21:15:48
^ no he won't get Malkin +, but he's going to get more than a song and a dance

25 Jun 2015 21:36:48
Reasonable trade.

25 Jun 2015 22:47:19
What do you suggest Kessel would get from Pittsburgh chirp?

26 Jun 2015 06:21:03
The trade itself isn't that bad, I was more mocking the leafs fans that think it is a huge underpayment.

26 Jun 2015 06:25:36
@Leafs17

PIT- Pouliot, Kunitz, Scuderi, 2016 1st

TOR- Kessel, Gardiner

26 Jun 2015 09:43:43
Thanks. I was hoping to see chirp make a suggestion but still he just chirps. I would like to see the leafs keep Gardiner. I think Babcock will build his confidence instead of benching him for making a mistake. Kids need to be thrown back in there and learn from their mistakes.

25 Jun 2015 19:46:04
Penguins trade malkin
Bruins trade: rights to Hamilton, lucic, 1st 2015, 1st2016, 2nd 2015

25 Jun 2015 22:56:44
We have Krejci Bergeronand and Spooner as our top 3 centres why would we give up so much for Malkin? This trade is terrible for Boston.

26 Jun 2015 04:10:12
It's way too much for Malkin but guaranteed Krecji is involved in that trade as a Malkin replacement. Personally Hamilton has crazy high value and Krecji+Hamilton could get Malkin

25 Jun 2015 03:05:08
Penguins trade geno
Sharks trade Logan couture, Thomas hertl, 2015 first round pick

25 Jun 2015 07:25:43
Pitts needs dman

25 Jun 2015 22:51:55
Too much from SJ in my opinion. Trading away too much youth and Couture and Pavelski should be their top two centers when big Joe retires.

24 Jun 2015 14:39:29
Penguins trade: nick spalling, Brandon sutter and Ian cole
Sharks trade: Brent burns, 2nd round pick 2015

Breakdown: the sharks are reshaping, and thus trade gives them some depth for the future, as these guys could be 3rd and 4th line centers(maybe even 2nd, 3rd) and Ian cole could be a 2nd pair dman, while the Penguins get a guy who could play defense or wing, wherever they need him, plus they restock a 2nd round pick

24 Jun 2015 19:33:28
Not enough for Burns

 
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