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24 May 2015 18:39:01
Two trades between edm and Tor
Edm=pits1st and j Schultz
Tor=bernier and Matt Finn. Maybe pits 2nd
This gives edm a starter goalie and a safer d prospect then Schultz. This also helps torontos rebuild
This trade is very unlikely but:
Tor=jvr and Stuart Percy
This gives Toronto a piece to select Hanfin over strome. A future number 1 center. This gives Edm a good D prospect and a very valuable young top 6 winger to play with RNH on a great contract
24 May 2015 20:15:32
Closer to the value I see for Draisatl
24 May 2015 22:25:32
In what right mind does draisaitl get you jvr and Percy your dreaming bud! Draisaitl hasn't proved anything yet jvr is a beast and is worth draisaitl + let alone toronto adding
24 May 2015 03:24:25
pit: sam gagner + 1st round pick 2015(chi)
ari: brandon sutter + beau bennett
pit: chris thorburn + 3rd round pick 2015
win: chris kunitz
buyout rob scuderi
re-sign every rfa and ufa lapierre + chorney
sign ufa jiri tlusty 3y/4m
tlusty crosby hornqvist
perron malkin gagner
dupuis spaling sundqvist
wilson lapierre thorburn
24 May 2015 08:09:27
Gagner might be very slightly more valuable then Sutter, say they are equal, then Bennett is not worth a 1st.
24 May 2015 08:21:19
i don´t think Pens are trading for another center even if Sutter will leave via trade. But the idea is right as long as #87 and #71 are on the team together there is no place for Sutter who was very good especially the last two years during the play-offs and could make a run for #2 center somewhere else.
Personally I would like if they move Malkin for a solid rhd-man and some wingers and extend Sutter long term. Might be more cap friendly and give them a better chance for the cup.
24 May 2015 09:16:42
Sutter is not good enough to be a #2.
23 May 2015 22:51:12
Penguins trade Malkin & Bennett
Blues trades Berglund, Schwartz, Oshie, 2016 2nd
24 May 2015 01:42:32
Pens would be lookinf for a Top defensman as well.
24 May 2015 04:21:07
St. Louis doesn't need Malkin. And they especially don't need to give up Schwartz in the process.
24 May 2015 06:12:33
Somebody other than Schwartz, & then this would be an interesting start to a trade!
24 May 2015 08:28:07
Berglund & Oshie´s contracts will expire in two years and then they might be gone or too expensive for the Pens to keep. Guess when they trade Malkin they are looking for young RFA-players or players who are looked up long-term (>3 years). There will be too many forwards leaving the team the next two years.
22 May 2015 03:01:28
pit: sharp + bickell
chi: sutter + kunitz + bennett
pit: drew miller + 5th round pick 2015
det: ben lovejoy
let kapanen develop another year
sharp crosby hornqvist
bickell malkin perron
spaling sundqvist dupuis
miller/wilson lapierre rust/megna
22 May 2015 08:18:11
Hawks easily say no, they would be getting rid of those guys for picks and prospects as they need to shed cap, once Bennett is signed its equal money being exchanged there basically. Besides the money reason, Hawks still say no.
22 May 2015 20:04:26
Why would Detroit want Lovejoy over Drew Miller who is one of the better PK killers in the league. Lovejoy isn't a wow factor and Detroit shouldn't have to add a pick. Miller is a Winnik type player where he plays a pressure, two way game and kills penalties.
Detroit just sees no reason to trade him at this time. Detroit says no, especially since they have a few solid young d-men who could play equal or greater than Lovejoy.
21 May 2015 20:30:18
Saw this on Bleacher Report as possible deal, Wanted to know what your thinking:
1. NY Islanders trade: Michael Grabner
Edmonton Trades: 2015 2nd (One of the two they own).
2. Edmonton Trades: Nail Yakupov
Minnesota Trades: Jared Spurgeon
3. Vancouver Trades: Radim Vrbata(Some salary retained due to Pens cap situation)
Penguins Trade: Brian Dumolin and a 2016 draft pick(Didn't specify which one).
4. Ottawa Trades: Craig Anderson
Buffalo Trades: Cody Hodgson(Some salary retained) & a prospect.
5. New Jersey Trades: Eric Gelinas & a draft pick or prospect
St. Louis Trades: T.J. Oshie
6. Chicago Trades: Corey Crawford
San Jose Trades: 1st round pick & Promising young player(1 of Chris Tierney, Micro Mueller, or Matt Nieto).
7. Toronto Trades: Dion Phaneuf(Possibly retain some salary)
LA Trades: Mike Richards, Young player(1 of Valentin Zykov, Nick Ebert, Brayden McNabb), A draft pick(Didn't specify which).
8. Calgary Trades: Jiri Hudler
Washington Trades: Karl Alzner & promising young player( or prospect)
9. St. Louis Trades: Kevin Shattenkirk
Detroit Trades: Danny Dekeyser, Anthony Mantha, Stephen Weiss(Some Salary retained)
10. Toronto Trades: Phil Kessel(some salary retained)
Montreal Trades:Alex Galchenyuk or Jacob De La Rose, Zach Fucale, 2015 1st round pick.
These deals probably won't happen, I saw this article, curious on thoughts for value and if it would work.
21 May 2015 20:42:50
First grabber is nowhere near a 2nd anymore, yak probably has slightly higher value than spurgeon, jersey wants to get younger not older oshie will be 30 in the next year or so, that's just suicide by chicago, phanuef no longer worth as much,Washington eh but probably a no,stl. And det. Trade just doesn't make sense Detroit can sign green,and I doubt Toronto would trade kessel to an inter division rival
21 May 2015 20:54:32
They are all brutal. Bleacher report is a bunch of hacks who make stuff up. there is nothing official about it.
The hudler trade is the worst thing I have seen in my life.
21 May 2015 21:10:53
How many time are we going to say This man stop This if were trading galchenyuk its for a real superstar not for a phil lazy kessel! I rather put chucky in a deal for hall,johansen,duchenne,
It will never happens kessel is a joke he seem to at the crossroad of is career
I bet 100 bucs that they will never be a trade involving galchenyuk for kessel!
Lol you all think galchenyuk weak then i'm going to tell you This montreal structure is focus on defense on a offense team galchenyuk and on a 1 st Line he can score you 30 and make least the same point has fosberg
21 May 2015 22:13:53
Galchenyuk and DLR aren't the same kind of value.
21 May 2015 23:04:24
Galchenyuk is a bum, he will not get you a 'real superstar'
22 May 2015 04:20:23
Galchenyuk won't get you half of Hall, Johansen or Duchene. He's a good young winger. He's not big or strong enough to be a centre and that hinders his value tremendously. He will be a career top 6 player, 1st line on low end offensive teams like Montreal. Besides, Toronto wouldn't make this big of a move with their biggest rival. So you can get some sleep tonight MF, because it's not going to happen.
22 May 2015 11:11:32
May I remember you that first game he play at center and score 3 goal ok then he was pull out cause Therrien tought he was not playing the defensive side! Yes he will get you 3/4 of all those player value
22 May 2015 13:03:27
I think I would throw up if we traded Anderson for Hodgson, makes no sense
22 May 2015 20:05:39
Thanks for your input, Clearly this source was way off on most trades. Is there any trade that maybe if adding a few pieces on either side could be considered decent value for both clubs?
22 May 2015 23:44:41
I think the hudler trade is ridiculous
23 May 2015 12:39:29
It would always be nice to see Crawford as a Shark. However, seeing that our goalie came from Chicago, I'm getting a little tired of em hahaha.
23 May 2015 19:03:14
Yeah, no way Caps add to Alzner for Hudler. Horrible.
21 May 2015 20:27:23
resign: All RFA's
Free Agent sigings:
Buy Out Scuderi
Dumoulin, Spaling, Drazenovic
Talbot, Camara, 3rd 2015
I might have missed players not sure
21 May 2015 21:01:38
So you trade for Yakupov and put him on the third line
21 May 2015 23:09:35
and re-sign Drazenovic then trade him away, bad for business.
22 May 2015 03:56:22
I'm not saying he would go on the third line
23 May 2015 13:21:53
Uhhhhhh what? You have a third line of Yak-Sutter-Stempniak. So. What are you saying then? Lol Besides, Edm says no very easily to that.
21 May 2015 16:55:46
Trade Idea From America
STL: Jay Bouwmester, T.J. Oshie, Patrick Beglund, 2nd rnd pick
Pits gets a top 2-3 defenseman still in his prime, A top six winger in Oshie and a good big 2way center in Berglund. A 2nd rnd pick just to put this trade over the top.
21 May 2015 18:42:51
Not enough, PIT would likely ask for Shattenkirk, Schwartz, prospect, 1st
21 May 2015 19:19:53
Pens will look more for Shattenkirk instead of Bouwmester because he is right handed and more cap-friendly.
21 May 2015 20:55:35
Switch it to Pieterangelo and maybe
21 May 2015 22:41:50
St. louis will not part with a shats or petro. Besides Malkins cap hit is brutal. YOU got 3 solidplayers and a 2nd that's fair for a injury prone almost 30 yr old 10 mil player on his downard spiral of hockey life.
22 May 2015 03:39:37
STL won't get Malkin. We can't give up our future for a player that can only give us 3 or 4 superstar seasons.
19 May 2015 14:32:52
nas: ellis + stalberg + rights of santorelli and franson
pit: sutter + bennett + cole + lovejoy + kunitz
re-sign every rfa
phi: brayden schenn
sign ufa paul martin or johnny oduya 2y/10m
forsberg schenn neal
wilson sutter smith
kunitz jarnkrok bennett
nystrom/bourque gaustad beck
19 May 2015 21:36:45
Pens got robbed!
15 May 2015 21:27:38
2015 2nd Rd pick
16 May 2015 02:47:39
Why would Edmonton do this? It makes zero sense
16 May 2015 03:24:54
Oilers would rather keep yak Bennet has played with Crosby and Malkin and hasn't improved
21 May 2015 19:47:49
Pens won't trade the pick but I could see something close to this happening
15 May 2015 02:37:44
15 May 2015 09:58:37
flyers get FLEEEEEEECED
15 May 2015 21:26:31
why is this a fleecing? Sutter has more points and goals each of the last two years.
17 May 2015 16:26:58
Because couturier has a high ceiling in regards to potential and sutter just isn't on the same level. Sutter is a good third liner but couturier could be a good top 6 and is still very young can't see this trade happening but by no means is it a fleecing it needs more added to make it work
13 May 2015 09:00:51
Oilers fans/non-fans alike make terrible proposals all the time and I decided I'd make a better one or two.
Oilers need a goalie.
My vote is to go after Niemi. He's a vet, he's proven, he's a UFA. Just got to offer him a decent contract. Ordinarily that wouldn't be so easy from an Oilers standpoint but they've made huge strides in the past month or so (and still a coach to hire, likely Mclellan) so they're looking a lot more appealing. I'd offer him 3yr/16mil. Alternatively, there is a spare goalie in Ottawa but we don't know who that is yet so I'm not going to broach that. My other alternate would be Talbot from NYR. 16th overall. If that's not enough, add a B-prospect. No more.
Dmen wise, I would call up Sekera. He's not the best dman in the world but would be a step up and cost less than some of the others available. If Mike Green were as good as he used to be then I'd take a shot at him but he isn't, plus he is more an offensive dman. 2yrs/5mil for Sekera. The appeal of a growing team (with McD and a good coach) either draws him in, or it doesn't. Alternatives are, IMO, trades. Two ideas:
To EDM: Seabrook
To CHI: Klefbom, Pitts 1st
And I'm a BIG fan of Klefbom. But Seabrook is obviously more developed and could be a steady hand for years to come. I'd initially offer Marincin and the 1st but doubt it would work. My only nail-biter about this would be that Seabrook is due for a big extension and one would have to merely hope that he would re-sign. My alternative:
To EDM: Faulk, Ward, B-prospect
To CAR: Eberle, Yakimov
Faulk is a good developing dman, Ward is a local boy who has been up and down in net and is coming off a big contract next year (in other words a risk), and Eberle (while I'd hate to move him) would be a huge addition to that Canes team, and Yakimov is looking like a very good addition to C depth in Edmonton, but is also looking like the odd man out with RNH, McDavid, Draisaitl, Lander, Gordon, and possibly Roy coming into the fold next season.
These aren't perfect by any means, and are off the top of my head, but didn't want to get flooded with "blarp! Yous post proplosels then, ya blarp!" from people who hate me simply because I disagree with crap proposals.
Anyhoo. Done and done. Complain away.
13 May 2015 09:47:01
Re: Sekera proposal, I meant 5mil/yr. I didn't type that correctly.
13 May 2015 14:54:13
This is a pretty solid post. But I don't think Talbot would cost a mid-first. I also think Edmonton would have to add on that Carolina trade. Faulk is such an underrated defender
13 May 2015 16:07:41
Signing UFA goalies didn't work for Van or CGY and I have a feeling it won't work form Oilers either, can't build a team through free agency. Faulk definitely is underrated but considering we're taking Ward back maybe something could be worked out. And I would hate to give up Klefbom for an aging Seabrook with no contract left.
13 May 2015 21:18:00
no from chicago, I think they would be looking for more value. It would probably take Pits 1st, a decent d prospect, and I could see them wanting draisaitl to hopefully answer their problem at center on the second line in the future.
13 May 2015 23:10:28
for the most part its a solid post, but you know me i'll pick away at anything.
chicago would want draisaitl for sure as a starting point for seabrook.
i don't like the eberle trade, faulk is good, but not the type of dman the oilers need imo, going after ward could be a smart move, I would trade hall before eberle. oil get a lot more in return
i would stay away from niemi, just don't think he's all that great, had a stellar team in front of him to win that cup in chi before leaving for san jose, and we all know how well that worked out. lehner is young and solid,
maybe work out something like hall for lehner, cowen stone/hoffman + +?
you do know i'm leafs first oilers second right?
14 May 2015 00:56:36
You bag on everyone here for their ideas and this is what you post? Good God the hypocrisy is off the charts.
15 May 2015 02:36:23
Yakupov doesn't have much trade value due to his poor play and bad contract.
15 May 2015 09:38:53
@quinnjj Yakupov's contract is 2 years at $2.5 million/season. How is that a bad contract?
12 May 2015 23:26:26
PIT: aleksander barkov
2016 2nd round pick
2015 first round pick
FLA: evgeni malkin
PIT: 1st round pick 2015
MIN: brandon sutter
sign sean bergenheim 2 year 2 M per year
perron crosby hornqvist
jokinen barkov kapanen
dupuis sundqvist hyman
bergenheim trochek rust
13 May 2015 14:57:59
No damn way from Florida
12 May 2015 05:45:42
If the leafs were to deal the big 5 realistic deals for both
Tor:D Pouliot, W Bennett, 1st in 2016, 2nd in 2015
Pit:JVR, D Robidas
Tor:C Strome, D Reinhart, D Pulock, 3rd round pick in 2016
Det: Phanuef(2 million retained)
Tor: RW Mantha, C Weiss, D Smith, 3rd round pick in 2016
Tor: 1st in 2016
Mon: Lupul (1.5 Million retained)
Tor: 2nd round pick in 2016, 4th round pick in 2016
12 May 2015 10:58:22
JVR is good, but wow not THAT good. And Detroit wasn't willing to give up Mantha for Phanuef and the deadline, I don't think that would have changed between now and then. They will likely go hard for Petry in free agency instead.
12 May 2015 13:01:25
well one of the detroit execs spoke about how disapointing mantha has been. so yeah some stuff has changed. but still who knows what they will do
13 May 2015 02:43:43
Bozak isn't worth a first to any team.
14 May 2015 21:46:59
Bozak is worth a 1st just not in this draft! You need to remember come crunch time next season when teams are looking to bolster their roster for a playoff run they look to guys like bozak and lupul! Guys that can man the third line but also be moved up to play top 6 minutes . Bozak would probably fetch a late first round pick probably 25-30 or a 2nd and a b level prospect lupul on the other hand would only fetch a 2nd rd pick and maybe a c level prospect
12 May 2015 02:52:27
STL: 2016 1st, 2016 2nd, Stastny, Rattie, Letunov
12 May 2015 10:35:15
No put one of st Louis young star in that deal
13 May 2015 01:32:00
STL would need to include a Tarasenko or Shattenkirk for PIT to even consider it in my opinion.
13 May 2015 19:27:54
Are you High Just a leafs fan. I wouldn't trade Tarasenko or Shattenkirk by themselves for malkin.
70 pts in last two seasons under 30 goals. With a 9 mil contract with a bunch of years left on it and he is approaching the end of his prime years and starting into his decline years.
Tarasenko >>>>> Malkin
Shattenkirk >>> Malkin
Blues are not trading the following, Petro, Tarasenko, Swartz, Shattenkirk, Lehtera, Linbohm, Jaskin, Fabri, Barbashev.
You want a fair trade that gives you two scoring lines and a effective third line here you go>
Blues: Oshie, Berglund, Rattie or (prospect not named above) 1st rnd pick.
Thats knocking off a huge contract and adds depth to a one line team.
21 May 2015 19:50:39
i like that trade
11 May 2015 13:56:49
1st Round Pick 2015 (25th Overall)
11 May 2015 14:08:28
Pittsburgh has no cap, plus leafs should add a bit more.
11 May 2015 16:03:39
Gets you about half a lef from Geno.
11 May 2015 18:01:10
I guess TML have to sent at van Riemsdyk, Polak, Connor Brown, Tom Nilsson & Sam Carrick to Pens for Malkin, if Rutherford is not only going for veterans (if there will be no success in the Burgh next season he & Johnston will be history). If he really leaves Pittsburgh (and I would like to see what happen then) the buyer will overpay hardly
11 May 2015 20:38:19
More like vanrym ,rielly, nylander and leaf first( 25)
10 May 2015 08:32:31
to Blues: Brandon Sutter
to PIT: Jori Lehtera, Brent Regner
Blues could extend Sutter long-term and use him as replacement for Backes or Berglund if they deceide to trade one of them or both. He was a good player in crunch times, especially defensively the last two seasons.
Lethera could be used as left wing together with Malkin and Kapanen while Pens get some more cap space to find another winger (Tlusty or Stafford?) Spalling should center the third line (he was much better in the middle last season). Regner could upgrade Scranton (Pens are shy of right handed d-men) and may have a better shot for promotion than in St.Louis.
11 May 2015 03:53:30
No from St louis since they find letters more useful than sutter
21 May 2015 19:52:49
St. Louis and the pens have a good relationship regarding trades and blues need a good 3rd or 4th line center
06 May 2015 19:44:56
Montreal: de la rose and a 2nd
07 May 2015 19:38:12
I think Delarose is going to be pretty good. Perron for Eller maybe.
06 May 2015 18:25:29
Montreal: de la rose and a 2nd
05 May 2015 17:52:19
Habs Will be eleminated by Tampa bay in the second round . Bergevin need to do something this summer for a top scorer!
CBJ: Johansen (Will cost alot)
CHI: Sharp (the most probable)
EDM: Eberle ( I don't think Edm Will move on him)
LA: Carter or Toffoli (Carter is good and the y need cap Space)
PIT: Perron or Benette ( they are food and Will not cost alot)
STL: Oshie ( I really want him in Mtl and STL need cap Space for Tarasenko)
TOR: Kessel ( Will cost a lot and I don't think them Will trade him to a rival)
Possible player to go :
Plekanec, Eller, Emelin, De la rose, Hudon, Desharnais, Fucale, Reway, Parenteau, Beaulieu, Tinordi, Thrower, Pateryn, Tokarski, 1 rnd pick 16, 2 rnd pick 16 (buffalo).
This is the most probably players Will change team during this summer. Tell me what is the price for Have a top scorer whitout give up on the chemistry of the team.
Tell me what you think! ;)
05 May 2015 22:40:49
No way were not getting that fatso kessel is just problem
06 May 2015 12:01:16
With those players you get a top winger. quality=quality
06 May 2015 14:30:21
Hate to tell u guys the habs need more then just one winger if they expect to win in the playoffs
04 May 2015 21:05:05
Some potential Phaneuf trades:
Dion Phaneuf (retain $1.5m)
2015 1st Round Pick (Pittsburgh)
Nikita Nikitin (cap dump)
Marco Roy (B-level prospect)
Ryan Sproul (good defensive prospect)
Stephen Weiss (cap dump)
2016 2nd Round Pick
04 May 2015 21:47:32
cant see toronto retaining salary if they are going to also be taking on a cap dump on the first one. and I think they could get something better from detroit
04 May 2015 23:26:14
Detroit wants salary retained on a Phaneuf deal and would be willing to offer a little more than that to make it happen.
05 May 2015 00:45:26
Not saying Toronto would do it but Niktin is only signed for one more year I believe so it's not that bad of a camp dump
05 May 2015 01:04:59
In the Detroit trade, there isn't too much they have that they would be willing to give up for Phaneuf. I mean we can get older players but there isn't much point in that, they won't give us Mantha or Larkin so they could probably turn their 2nd round pick into a 1st but you can't get much more than that.
05 May 2015 02:18:51
As an Oiler fan and Phaunuf hater ill admit that's a good trade for him, retaining salary is key IF Oilers even want him, and that cap dump is only one more season, the 16th overall makes up for that. Actually decent compared to the other garbage proposal some want out of Edm.
05 May 2015 03:31:49
Add dallas, Philly and colarado to that list as well.
All cusp of playoff teams looking for a defenceman.
Asking price for phaneuf will be 1st round pick, top prospect and salary going back torontos way.
If its a Detroit proposal start with 1st, Mantha, and Weiss. Otherwise the leafs don't do the deal, Detroits prospects outside of mantha and larkin are not NHL caliber. The cupboards are bare.
05 May 2015 09:28:52
Finally something rather realistic. Pretty sure Roy isn't a B-Lvl-prospect. We had these discussions earlier on here, most people do not seem to know the definitions (neither did I, before sbr2017 posted them on here).
05 May 2015 11:21:39
Nikitin "cap dump" is for 1 season. Phanuef cap dump is for 7 seasons. And you want a top-20 draft pick and a prospect included as well?
This trade is absurd.
05 May 2015 12:29:01
Chirp, as an Oiler fan and a Phaneuf hater ill admit this is the most realistic proposal I've seen yet, Phaneuf isn't that crazy of a cap dump if they retain $1.5M a season. I still do not like the slightest idea of him in an Oilers jersey tho. Lol the reason the pick is a top 20 is because they would be retaining $1.5M. did you miss that part?
05 May 2015 13:35:49
Solid trades although I wouldn't mind a better prospect from Edmonton but would still happily take it from a leafs standpoint.
05 May 2015 14:22:03
I guess you forgot the part where Toronto retains $1.5 million of Phaneuf's salary. But why would you pay attention to detail?
06 May 2015 09:37:22
It's still too much and too long of a bad contract to take on.
06 May 2015 22:53:02
Maybe, But he would be EDM's best dman