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18 Jun 2018 21:23:09
To Pittsburgh:
- Sam Bennett
- T. J. Brodie

To Calgary:
- Phil Kessel (25% retained)
- 3rd round pick

To Arizona:
- Curtis Lazar
- Pit 3rd round pick

To Calgary:
- Cristian Fischer

To Toronto:
- Michael Stone (25% retained)

To Calgary:
- Andreas Johnsson


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New Look Flames:


Kylington/ Valimaki-Andersson


18 Jun 2018 22:08:57
No from Toronto would rather keep Andreas Johnson. You can have Leivo and a 4th tho.

18 Jun 2018 22:59:53
Can’t see Pitt retaining any salary
No from Arizona
Idk enough about Johnsson.

18 Jun 2018 23:30:26
looks like the top line with the worst plus minus in the nhl 2018-2019 season.

18 Jun 2018 23:47:49
No way Toronto makes that trade.

19 Jun 2018 01:27:46
Where is Ferland, Brouwer, Even Hathaway and Foo?
I'm not even a Flames fan and theses question marks came up right away.

19 Jun 2018 19:30:32
Foo has played 4 games. he's bubble to make the team. Brouwer is not good at all. Hathaway is gritty but lacks any sort of skill.

Ferland is the big one. I left him off because he's had a concussion again for the thord or fourth time so i left him off because i'm not sure how effective he would be.

15 Jun 2018 07:23:50
• Daniel Sprong
• Olli Maatta
• Jake Guentzel
• Carl Hagelin

• Erik Karlsson (verbal agreement to sign with Pittsburgh before July 1st)

15 Jun 2018 17:54:18
take off Guentzel off the deal for PIT and I'll believe it a bit more or add a draft pick from Ottawa because I like EK but he's not worth what you want.

17 Jun 2018 15:21:49
no from Ottawa dream on RickyD87 and Franchise Billy.

07 Jun 2018 11:11:57
Apparently the Blackhawks won't tolerate being bad this year and will make a massive offer for Tavares. Also Ducks have requested Perry's no trade list and the Pens are looking to trade Kessel.
I got a couple trades i can think of.

• John Tavares
• Nick Schmaltz
• Corey Crawford
• Alex DeBrincat

• Corey Perry
• 1st Round Pick
• Artem Anisimov

• Phil Kessel
• Brent Seabrook
• Anthony Duclair

• Sam Bennett
• John Hayden
• 2nd Round Pick

Brandon Saad - Jonathan Toews - Patrick Kane
Phil Kessel - John Tavares - Corey Perry
Tomas Jurco - Sam Bennett - Patrick Sharp
Vince Hinostroza - David Kampf - Andreas Martinsen

Imagine those lines!!!!!

07 Jun 2018 12:29:06
Trade 1 - Let's trade our future and the franchise goalie for a twenty extra days to convince JT to sign

Trade 2 - Future young star for aging overpayed winger

Trade 3 - C'mon it's 2018, not 2010. Seabrook's contract in one of the worst in the league, adding Duclair only lessens the nagative value and you want an NHL Top10 scoring forward in return? (and slot him on his off wing)

Trade 4 - This one only is close to fair.

Sharp has retired, Martinsen is a UFA and propably won't be back. Also who is Hawks starting goalie in this scenario?

07 Jun 2018 13:56:43
1) salary cap
2) giving away futures much?

07 Jun 2018 21:17:08
So what happens after John Tavares refuses to sign in Chicago then resigns in New York after they get those premium assets?

02 Jun 2018 22:00:37
Sources saying Blackhawks won't tolerate being bad again and will make a huge offer for Tavares. But they need to shed cap obviously before they can do that.

#1 Trade
To AZ:
• Marian Hossa (Dump)
• 8th Overall
• Matthew Highmore
• Future Considerations

#2 Trade
• Corey Crawford
• Alex Debrincat
• Artem Anisimov
• 2nd Round Pick
• John Tavares (verbal agreement to resign)

#3 Trade
• Connor Murphy
• 2019 1st Round Pick
• Anthony Duclair
• Phil Kessel

Projected Line-up Chicago

Brandon Saad - Jonathan Toews - Patrick Kane
Tomas Jurco - John Tavares - Phil Kessel
Andreas Martinsen - Nick Schmaltz - Patrick Sharp

02 Jun 2018 22:28:22
100% won't happen.
Chicago is declining and should just start a complete rebuild.
Keith, Seabrook are old. Toews is now a 50-55 point player, Saad sucks, and Kane is by himself.

If they even DO sign Tavares (and they wont) Does that mean Toews will be a second line center? He earns like 10.5 million per season. Not happening.

Also, there's no way Chicago trades the 8th overall for absolutely nothing. ''Future Considerations'' is nothing. Even if it means getting rid of Hossa's contract.

Phil Kessel is worth more than a top 4 defenceman, a bottom 6 forward and a pick that might be anywhere from 1-15. They won't trade Kessel for to gamble on the lottery.

02 Jun 2018 23:44:38
They’d be giving up a lot of youth and probably get worse. Not a good idea for Chicago IMO.

02 Jun 2018 23:54:31
You also barely cleaned out any cap considering Johnny T going to get atleast 10 mil and kessel is around 6 or so?

03 Jun 2018 01:17:17
1. You can put Hossa on LTIR because of his skin condition so his cap hit dosent go against the cap so there goes that deal. Not very well thought out.

2.Why wouldn’t they just sign him for free that deal is silly at most his rights are worth a 2nd round pick tops

3. How does this make the pens better in anyway?

Terrible post.

03 Jun 2018 02:47:17
FIrst trade is brutal. Can just place Hossa on LTIR.

And definite no to the NYI trade. No need to get a verbal agreement at this time; either try to sign him on July 1st or dont. No need to give up that many assets.

Third trade imo is underwhelming for Phil, but i genuinelly don't think CHI should want/ need him.

30 May 2018 13:20:49
to Arizona:
• Phil Kessel
to Pittsburgh:
• Jason Demers (25% Retained Salary)
• Christian Dvorak
• 2nd Round Pick

to Arizona:
• Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
• Jesse Puljujärvi
• 10th Overall
to Edmonton:
• Oliver Ekman-Larsson
• Max Domi

to Arizona:
• Sam Bennett
• Rasmus Andersson
to Calgary:
• Christian Fischer
• Nick Cousins

to Arizona:
• Chris Tanev
• Derrick Pouliot
to Vancouver:
• 5th Overall
• 10th Overall (via EDM)

Richard Panik - Derek Stepan - Phil Kessel
Brendan Perlini - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Clayton Keller
Sam Bennett - Dylan Strome - Jesse Puljujärvi
Jordan Martinook - Brad Richardson - Zac Rinaldo

Jacob Chychrun - Chris Tanev
Rasmus Andersson - Alex Goligoski
Kevin Connauton - Trevon Murphy

30 May 2018 13:38:51
Way to much for Tanev.

30 May 2018 13:39:17
Not even close for Kessel.

30 May 2018 21:04:25
2 top 10 picks for Tanev lol where do people get these values?!

29 May 2018 01:14:00
To Pitts - Brodie frolik and right to Adam fox
To cal- kessel and sheary

29 May 2018 15:47:50
Pittsburgh give way too much. Kessel alone has more value than what CGY offers since he comes off an all-star season.

29 May 2018 16:28:11
Yes but teams are going to be careful when trading for him, he just came off an all star season and yet the team is looking to trade him. What does that say about him? While he is an amazing player there have been multiple reports that he is lazy at practice, puts his own personal goal scorer above the teams welfare, and doesn’t get along with the coaching staff. That could drive a lot of teams off. Again he’s one of the best wingers in the league coming off a great season but his value is likely brought down by his actions off the ice and in practice.

30 May 2018 00:01:25
Actually Xcing, his assist to goal ratio has gotten better and better as his career goes in including almost 60 assists this year. So I don’t see how he puts his own goal scoring above what’s best for the team first of all. Secondly, the dispute between him and Sullivan was apparently that they wanted to sit him down the stretch for some rest and he hasn’t missed a game since the first game he played for the leafs 8 years ago. He didn’t want to end his Ironman streak as a healthy scratch. A few months ago people applauded the passion of Andrew cogliano for crying in an interview about ending his Ironman streak after being suspended for a dirty hit he laid, and yet you’re going to villify kessel wanting to play every night and earn his contract?! Give your head a shake.

27 May 2018 21:58:40
To Calgary: Phil Kessel

To Pittsburgh: TJ Brodie + Conditional 1st 2019 (If CGY doesn't make 2nd round the pick is a 2020 2nd) + Rights to Adam Fox

Calgary gets their top line RW. Pittsburgh gets their LD that fits their fast play style. They get a first they can flip and a promising d prospect.

27 May 2018 23:30:39
Good stuff

27 May 2018 23:48:26
Pretty interesting trade. Idk the cap Brodie has but I’m sure it would work out just fine with Kessel leaving. Good post.

28 May 2018 03:33:30
Don’t want to lose a Kessel but this trade works positionslly and capwise. Brodie would do well in Pitt.

25 May 2018 23:52:28
The media really hating on kessel.

PIT - Phil Kessel + Carl Hagelin
CGY - Michael Stone + Sam Bennett + Rasmus Andersson + Micheal Ferland

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - P Kessel
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
C Hagelin - M Jankowski - G Hathaway
C Lazar - N Shore - T Brouwer

M Giordano - D Hamilton
T Brodie - T Hamonic
B Kulak - J Valimaki

J Guentzel - S Crosby - P Hornqvist
C Sheary - E Malkin - M Ferland
S Bennett - D Brassard - B Rust
T Kuhnhackl - R Sheahan - D Simon

B Dumoulin - K Letang
O Maatta - J Schultz
R Andersson - M Stone / J Oleksiak

Pittsburgh dumps Kessels and Hagelins contract.

26 May 2018 00:19:28
RW - Phil Kessel $6.80

RW - Tomas Tatar $5.30
LD - Jon Merrill $1.375

26 May 2018 01:14:37
Garbage for Pittsburgh. Kessel at 6.8M coming off a 92 point season for 2 players that are healthy scratches? Brutal.

26 May 2018 01:50:02
Oh lord lol.

25 May 2018 23:12:01
Pens need to upgrade their defence and hopefully drop some $ without disrupting their core. Sounds easy.
1. Calgary sends TJ Brodie $2million retained.
Pens send Hagelin and Sprong and 2nd round pick.
Risky for Flames as I think Brodie would excel with Letang but Hagelin can still okay bottom 6 and Sprong has top 6 potential. The second rounder is at 53.
2. Calgary trades Giordano at 50% retainedand Ferland
Pens send Sprong, Hagelin, Rust and a second.
The second one would be ideal for the Pens for the next couple seasons but they are a win now team. It also gives the Flames a lot of potential.

Comments or counter proposals.

26 May 2018 00:49:51
Mark Giordano + Sam Bennett + Adam Fox for Phil Kessel + Daniel Sprong + Carl Hagelin

J Gaudreau - S Monahan - P Kessel
M Tkachuk - M Backlund - M Frolik
M Ferland - M Jankowski - D Sprong
C Hagelin - C Lazar - T Brouwer / G Hathaway

T Brodie - D Hamilton
J Valimaki - T Hamonic
B Kulak - M Stone

Counter offer.

26 May 2018 02:42:36
I’d do the 1st suggestion from Pitt66 as a Flames fan.
I have no interest in Kessel, especially if he cost anything of importance. I’d rather keep Ferland as we need more players like him; heavy players that still have skill and excellent skaters. Sprong would be the key for us and Hagelin would add good depth.

26 May 2018 03:14:37
Probably a pretty fair counter. Would love to have Giordano but would hope to get him without losing Phil.

25 May 2018 15:51:49
Heard that pens are looking for a D and Kessel is the man to go?

How about

Pens: Kessel

Oilers: klefbom , lucic (oilers retain 2m) and 2nd round pic 2018

Lucic would surely waive his ntc for pens?

25 May 2018 17:36:06
So a over PPG Elite sniper who put up Franchise player type numbers for a 3rd dman, A Cap Dump and a 2nd? you're our to lunch.

25 May 2018 17:58:21
Doesn’t Kessel have a nmc ntc.

25 May 2018 18:23:56
no from pens.

25 May 2018 19:59:17
easyy no from pens.

25 May 2018 20:36:51
Lucic for 4 million isn’t all that bad, wouldn’t call that a cap dump.

25 May 2018 21:12:49
Pens traded a first round pick for reaves? Lucic at 4m has more value than that?

25 May 2018 22:50:16
Pens would want Larson or Nurse instead of Klefbom and they won’t touch Lucic as they’d need money to replace kessel. Plus they’d want a first, not a second. Can’t see either team willing or able to make this work.

25 May 2018 23:20:26
It’d abit pushin it he's more of a 3 million dollar player much similar to Leo Komarov.

26 May 2018 00:09:22
For someone who had 10 goals and 34 points last season, that's very much a cap dump.

25 May 2018 23:50:24
Retaining that much on any contract for that length of term is a very bad a idea. For any team.

25 May 2018 03:50:38
2 Pens proposals.
1. Sprong( stuck behind too many vets) for Rasmus Anderson from the Flames. Pens need def and Flames need potential top 6 forwards. Knowing Anderson is NHL ready and a right handed def, the Pens May need to add.
2. Another approach is to free up some cap and get younger and grittier.
Pens trade Sheary and Hagelin and pick number 53 to Flames for Bennet and Lazar. Bennett has the highest ceiling and Pens are freeing up about $4 million so they may need to add.

25 May 2018 05:33:14
What if it was Rust and Hagelin because he’s a right wing. Pens still get to unload Hagelins 4 million and get some young depth players, one with a decently high ceiling.

25 May 2018 22:52:25
That counter proposal seems pretty close.

24 May 2018 22:13:06
Pittsburgh may want to move on from letang because he’s not as good defensively as they would like and they did manage to win last years cup without him.

Pit: Letang

Van: Tanev

Then, Canucks trade letang to Dallas

Van: Letang

Dal: Spezza, Heiskanen and 2019 first (top 3 protected)

Dallas needs help on the back end and even though letang comes in at 7.25 million, spezza is coming off at 7.5 million so they’ll have the cap space and then letang contract comes off in 2022 which is also when klingbergs contract will need an extension so he’ll most likely get a downgrade in pay and then their 2 best rhd will cost a combined 11.5 million for the next 4 years which is definitely reasonable.

25 May 2018 03:12:19
Tanev is not even close to Letang. Tanev might be the most over rated player in the league. Guy can’t even play a full season but people (mainly Vancouver fans) think he’s a #1 D in the league.

25 May 2018 03:52:59
Letang is still very valuable and a great leader. I think they could do better if they decided to move him.

25 May 2018 03:59:19
Letang will not get you tbat not even close. He is getting older now and has injury history.

12 May 2018 18:11:14
IDK this maybe dumb but the Pens did this with Brassard and it may work here:

OTT acquires FC

ARI acquires Bobby Ryan


OTT acquires Bobby Ryan (35%-50% retained)

Arizona acquires a pick and decent prospect

The Pens did this with Vegas to help them fit under the cap and it could work with the Sens.

Arizona is known to have trouble staying above the salary floor, so they take on money but they do get a pick and prospect (Vegas took a meh prospect and reaves to retain 2.5 mill from brassard)

Ottawa does this so that they can save money but still keep bobby ryan who can be a good top 9 forward if he stays healthy. The extra money they save can be put into out RFAs this year like ceci and stone and for Karlsson and Duchene next year.


12 May 2018 18:37:34
Why does Ottawa need to do this? They aren't in cap trouble are they?

The reason Pens did it to for in Brassard is because they needed to make room, no?
You're making it seem like Ottawa is in cap trouble, which I don't believe they are. So you're just wanting to do this because you hate he's paid that much and wish it was less, Right? Understandable.

14 May 2018 03:30:32
Ottawa has an internal cap and their owner is cheap so that’s why Ottawa would do it.

14 May 2018 20:03:02
Technically there are in a bit of a pinch salary wise yup. sure they have 11m free now roughly but EK will demand another 4 to 5 million for his raise and stone will get another 3 to 3.5 million with Duchene getting another 2 million leaving them not much room for free agents or future young guys they'll need to give raises to like Chabot white chlapic brown etc. it makes sense but why not just use Arizona the same way they used Vegas as a means of an end to move Ryan? Arizona eats that cap then they flip Ryan at the new salary to replenish picks and prospects and get rid of the total sum of his contract? At new wage I'm sure they'd get something good for him. at 7.5 no but at 35 to 50% taken off I'm sure they would.

10 May 2018 01:27:25
Penguins Offseason:

Riley Sheahen 2x2 Mil
Bryan Rust 3x2.5 Mil
Dominik Simon 2x900k
Tom Kuhnackl 1x900k
Jamie Oleksiak 2x1.2 Mil
Daniel Sprong 2x900k
Tristan Jarry 950k
Carl Hagelin for Dallas 2nd

Matt Hunwick to Ottawa for Future Considerations

Conor Sheary for Buffalo 2nd

Free Agency:
Michael Grabner 2x2 Mil
Top 4 Defenceman (2-5 Mil Range)


Oleksiak-Top 4 Defenceman


10 May 2018 21:10:37
Ya no thanks . we don't want that cap for 2 more yrs.

08 May 2018 12:19:54
Matt Martin
Connor Carrick
STL 4th 2019

Matt Hunwick
Riley Sheahan

Hunwick didn't do well in steel city but Babcock liked him in Toronto. His cap hit is an issue so the Leafs send Matt Martin (after July 1) the other way. Carrick takes the 6/7D spot. Sheahan was also Babcock's favourite and could serve as the bottom C the Leafs need. Since Sheahan's value is higher than Carrick's, the Leafs add middle round draft pick.

09 May 2018 04:42:49
I'd rather have Carrick over Hunwick. Leafs LD is solid, they need all the help they can get on the right side. Carrick is a serviceable bottom pairing defenseman who is younger and better than Hunwick. The leafs just signed Par Lindholm and also have Miro Aaltonen who will be battling it out for 4C, who, IMO are both younger more offensively talented than Sheahan. Martin can be moved another way, this is a no from Toronto.

01 May 2018 19:07:17
to Toronto

to Edmonton

Toronto gets a more dependable and consistent veteran while Edmonton gets a dynamic player who could probably thrive in Edmonton much the way Justin Schultz is thriving in Pittsburgh.

01 May 2018 21:00:20
No with a capital n. I hate toronto and would love more than anything to see them fail for the next 100 years but even I can say this is ridiculous. A mid twenties decent d man with potential in Gardiner for an old d man on the decline and a bad contract in Sekera? No way in hell.

02 May 2018 01:22:36
Lmao easy no from leafs and the fact you compared Schultz to Sekera bruhhhhhh.

02 May 2018 08:27:43
He compared Gardiner to Schultz.

02 May 2018 18:35:45
Oopsy he did my bad, but anyways gardiner is a way way more establiahed dman than Schultz was when he got traded. Gardiner also won’t get traded I can’t see it, unless maybe for a righty?

03 May 2018 01:30:55
Gardiner is worth more than that lol but he’s not a mod 20s d with potential still. He’s 28 and he is what he is. He’s a great skater, can move the puck, can make passes that no one else on the leafs can make and can be really effective on a power play. However he is high risk high reward. Most games he has a blatant giveaway or 2 and then makes 3-4 great plays. Game 7 was 7 or 8 awful plays and nothing good to write home about.

01 May 2018 14:05:45
I know this sounds crazy but just think about it.
Cgy: lazar, Bennet
Pit: Crosby and Malkin
Lazar and Bennet are both high potential first round picks who are due for a good season. Crosby and malkin are getting old and will slow down soon, Pittsburg has to be ready for the next step.

01 May 2018 14:07:09
What was the point of this post?

01 May 2018 14:42:54
Wow. New meaning to my favorite word on here : delusional.

01 May 2018 14:50:12
Calargry: Guadreau, Mohnahan, Hamilton, Tkachuk and Girodano

Pittsburgh: Crosby

Jim Runothord accepts. Then Pittsburgh’s owner declines because Crosby is the face of the NHL and he won’t be traded for anything besides McDavid especially when they just one two cups in a row.

01 May 2018 16:17:11
"I know this sounds crazy but just think about it" I have for 2 seconds and it's still idiotic. Assuming you're serious, I'll explain. As much as I loathe Pittsburgh's diving duo, they're still in their prime and are highly productive players that stand a decent chance of a threepeat. Bennett and Lazar have been disappointing to say the least. If The Pengwhines were to trade those two for a rebuild, they can get substantially more than those scraps.

PS There's a thing called cap space. Google it.

01 May 2018 18:37:03
Pens would like to add Bennett and develop him properly
Would give up a late first and a prospect. No thanks to Lazar.

01 May 2018 18:58:51
This has to be a joke. The best player in the world and a top 10 player in the world for lazar who is a complete bust (and I’m usually critical of calling kids busts) and Bennett who still could be a decent player but hasn’t lived up yet at all. If you’re serious, wow.

01 May 2018 23:49:44
Awesome trade bro, really thought out! Before Pitt makes that no brainer did ya wanna throw something in and have a 3 way that got ya kuch?

02 May 2018 01:24:01
I thought about it and now I have a brain disorder thanks dude.

02 May 2018 01:25:07
Jim, you saying Crosby or Malkin best in the world? Neither is but just getting your opinion.

02 May 2018 03:49:01
You must be one of GoldenShowers multiple personalities.

30 Apr 2018 00:09:02


Would Pitts consider? Yes they would be giving up a very talented young center but for what they got to acquire him( drafted third round)
and they're obvious center depth,and the fact that Brasard wants to stay in Pittsburg, if they can get Patche for that price and even if they only have him for 1 year but he gets 40 goals and they win the cup next year( because with Patche in and Brassard in they're really good) would they consider? Mtl obviously gets a good young center and trade from a position of strength now( yes because with Zadina,Drouin,Chuck,Patches,Gallagher,Sherback,Hudon who are all top 6 wingers that the postion of strenght now. Let me know what you guys think

30 Apr 2018 01:00:00
Hahahaha. No, Pitts wouldn't consider. Not for one year of way older Patches. Guentzel has 20 goals 38 points in 33 career playoff games. 17 points in 8 playoff games this year. He's only 23.

30 Apr 2018 02:47:19
I wouldn’t trade Guentzel for Patches ahaha Guentzel is half his age and is better than him.

30 Apr 2018 03:03:50
Um no lol they wouldn’t consider.

29 Apr 2018 16:08:29
Mtl:Gallagher,33th overall,2rd pick(late),Lindgreen







Hudon- Mcleoud-Sherback

29 Apr 2018 18:13:06
Pens won’t be making that trade.

29 Apr 2018 18:46:07
2rd pick.

29 Apr 2018 21:48:24
Guentzel first line center lmao.

29 Apr 2018 22:27:50
why would montreal downgrade like that.

30 Apr 2018 09:22:26
Jesus. That's your answer to Montreals center problem? Lol.

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