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29 Apr 2016 13:41:01
NyRangers Trade
McDonagh
Girardi

Toronto Trades
Lupul
Hunwick
Dermott
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

The Rangers have put themselves in a position to deal from weakness with trading high Draft Picks and little to no Cap Space.
This Trade Proposal with Hunwick's low Salary and putting Lupul on the LTIR frees up enough space to resign Yandle and fill in the bottom 6 Forward positions as well as pickup another lower Salary DMan, also getting a good Prospect in Dermott and a badly needed 1st Round Pick.

The Leafs can afford to Trade Pit's Pick and makes them much better on Defence.

Thoughts?

29 Apr 2016 13:58:54
So I guess we're just going to give up on the whole rebuild thing? ok.

29 Apr 2016 14:02:14
I thought the leafs were rebuilding. Are they done after one year? Same old leafs trading first round picks and prospects for old uselee players with high saleries.

29 Apr 2016 14:03:12
I don't believe they are moving McDonaugh. He's their captain and best defender plus you build around a defender like that as they are hard to come by. Girardi can be moved (Clarkson got moved, it's not impossible) a team like Arizona who is weak defensively and could use a RHD partner for OEL would welcome him and help them reach the cap floor. Anyways the Leafs are in no position to be giving up picks and prospects. Even though the Leafs would likely accept, I don't like the trade from the Rangers standpoint.

29 Apr 2016 14:07:59
No from both teams.

29 Apr 2016 14:25:39
McDonagh is 26yrs old.
Girardi can be bought out in a year or 2 as the Leafs have Cap Space.
Leafs have a lot of good Prospects and Picks.
A Trade like this is still part of the rebuild.
Look at Edmonton you don't rebuild with all young Players, Uncle Lou said himself an NHL Roster has a 3 parts of Vet Players, Players in there Prime, and Young Players, the Leaf Roster will be that.

29 Apr 2016 15:12:23
@Pinhead

Ive never heard of a rebuild that involves trading away 1st round picks and prospects for aging players with high cap hits. Must be the new way of rebuilding?

29 Apr 2016 17:59:51
How does my comment have 3 unbelievables? McDonaugh isn't what's wrong with the Rangers. It's the fact they can't put a good team in front of Lundqvist and have too many bad contracts.

The leafs are rebuilding. Won't trade picks or prospects it's a fact.

29 Apr 2016 18:54:52
Shanahan himself in an interview said the Leafs would trade Draft Picks if it made sense in what they are doing, not just Draft Picks are involved in there rebuild, Trades and Free Agents are as well, just because the Leafs have 13 picks in this years Draft doesn't mean they won't Trade some as part of a package to get better.
A rebuild is to get better and if Trading a late 1st Rounder does that then the Leafs will Stammer2Leafs2016.
A rebuild isn't a complete teardown.

29 Apr 2016 20:26:57
I agree with you JF12 100%.

29 Apr 2016 20:42:34
okay listen you guys have to be crazy. let's break it down like this

Girardi - Lupul, Hunwick = pure cap move for the rangers, girardi upgrade on hunny and lupul goes on ir, rangers lose about 4 mil in cap (not 100% on exact amount)

second
Mcdounagh - Dermott, pitts first = first of all lol from rangers stand point terrible trade can get a ton more, second come on i don't care if you're rebuilding, if you can get a 26 yr old #1 dman for a package like that, you do it, it doesn't do anything to hinder the rebuil, he is the CAPTAIN of the rangers yes CAPTAIN, would he not bring good leadership to that ridiculously young core and he's also obviously a great player

anyways my thoughts after reading all of your replies to pinballs post.

29 Apr 2016 21:09:25
Seriously can we please block Pinball he is just on here to antagonize people, no human with half a brain would suggest the things he does.

29 Apr 2016 21:34:37
@Pinhead

Definition of REBUILD on the internet:
build (something) again after it has been damaged or destroyed.

your point about rebuilds not being teardowns is irrelavant.

29 Apr 2016 23:41:32
NHL trade rumours trades Pinball to HF boards for future considerations.

30 Apr 2016 00:36:46
When the site editor actually replies 😂😂😂😂😂😂.

30 Apr 2016 00:41:37
Wow! block a guy because you don't like what he has to say. Someone's petty.

30 Apr 2016 01:38:43
I agree with the fact that if they can get better by ripping a team off they would. I don't see it as ruining a real build by trading for a number 1 D entering his prime age.

27 Apr 2016 18:01:46
This is probably going to be very much in the leafs favour and completely out of the realm of possibility but I've been having a really hard time choosing between laine and matthews. so why not get both? see its completely out there haha, but what do you guys think it would take

JVR, Pitts 1st, 2nd, Timashov

2nd ovr (whoever it is)

dont judge me on this one haha, i'm just dreaming.

27 Apr 2016 19:06:06
It would likely cost us Marner, Nylander or Rielly.

27 Apr 2016 19:35:10
I would substute any prospect for timoshov he will be a beast. And no from the other team.

27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?

27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?

27 Apr 2016 19:49:31
why not just leave it in the dream?

27 Apr 2016 13:39:30
Anaheim Trades
Fowler
Andersen
3rd Round Pick 2017

Toronto Trades
Komarov
Corrado
Sparks
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)
2nd Round Pick 2016 (Washington's)

Thoughts?

27 Apr 2016 13:52:21
Don't think the Leafs are in a position to be trading draft picks and doubt they move Komerov he is a good player to have in the locker room during the rebuild. And the Value isn't there anyway, you would be lucky to get Andersen let alone Anaheim's best defencemen and a 3rd.

27 Apr 2016 14:14:24
One of Fowler or Vatanen will be Traded, Gibson is the #1 Goaltender and Anaheim has Traded there 1st and 2nd Round Picks for the 2016 Draft so they get valuable Picks back.

This is still all part of the Leafs rebuild they improve the Defence and Goaltending and yes they Trade a 1st and 2nd but they still have a Top 1st and 2nd, I would after this Trade make another move with the Rangers Trading Lupul and Hunwick for Girardi.

27 Apr 2016 15:01:03
To make everyone happy I will take the 3rd Rounder out of this Trade Proposal.

Breakdown.

Fowler - Komarov, Corrado,
Pits 1st Round Pick 2016
Andersen - Sparks,
Was 2nd Round Pick 2016

Thoughts?

28 Apr 2016 02:32:44
Awful as usual, why am I not surprised. How on earth does Sparks and WSH 2nd (56-60) get Anderson? Nice break down too. Probably worse than the trade itself, which is saying something. I don't know what it is with you or what goes on in your imaginary land but all your trades only ever help the Leafs (shocker) and you always make it an insulting underpayment.

Also Ducks have their 1st round pick.

28 Apr 2016 04:35:44
if you were any kind of leaf fan you wouldn't put komarov in a trade. or include pitts first in any trade not involving them moving up in the draft. you child are no leaf fan.

26 Apr 2016 01:27:00
To Pittsburgh: PIT 2016 1st round pick, Kapanen/ Bracco

To Toronto: Matt Murray

Toronto gets a future starter, Pittsburgh gets back a first round pick and a solid B+ prospect.

26 Apr 2016 02:58:40
I'd do it as Toronto.

26 Apr 2016 01:52:37
As a Pens fan i'm all for it as for Toronto i don't think they'll do this as they have Garret Sparks coming up through the Ranks and i also believe that Jeremy Bracco and Kasperi Kapanen are going to be Studs.

26 Apr 2016 02:09:06
Matt Murray was untouchable at the deadline, no reason to think he's available in the off-season. Pens need a future starter too, after all, so they can just hold onto him and rotate him in with more frequency as time goes on. This trade makes zero sense for Pittsburgh.

26 Apr 2016 02:12:50
Pittsburgh said they will not trade Matt Murray.

26 Apr 2016 12:12:50
Toronto said they wanted Matt Murray in the lesser trade, Pittsburgh said hells no. Why would it be any different now.

25 Apr 2016 15:14:59
How is this?

IMO JVR> EBerle so here is a 3way trade

NYI: JVR

Tor: Hamonic and a 3rd.

This would give Tavaras a perfect linemate.

Edm: 1st ( Not Mathews) and Ferrance

Tor: Hamonic, Komarov, Percy and pits 1st.

Gives EDM strong depth.

25 Apr 2016 16:30:26
this package is garbage compared to the other ones that other teams would offer.

25 Apr 2016 16:52:53
It a top 3 pick is what the Oilers get, they'd want a Dman much better than Hamonic for sure.

26 Apr 2016 03:02:52
I mean 4th overall.

26 Apr 2016 03:51:08
JVR better than Eberle? Typical leafs fan.

26 Apr 2016 17:39:35
You're a typical Oilers fan John Scott. I wouldn't say he is better than Eberle but at least at the same level. Eberle has more career points in less games, but nothing to get too excited about. Has JVR spent his career playing with #1 overall line mates? Last I checked, Bozak is a 3rd line center and Kessel is a one trick pony. Who did he play with this year, Komarov? JVR is also the size of a man and is tough to move in front of the net. Did I miss anything?

24 Apr 2016 17:38:41
Would this work if Leafs get the #1 overall pick?

ARI: Dylan Strome + 2016 1st round pick (#7 overall probably) + 2016 3rd round pick

TOR: both their first round pick and Pittsburgh's (#1 and #27-30) + WSH 2016 2nd.

I think the value is pretty even.

Arizona gets their hometown boy in Matthews and I Dyaln Strome will be a star in this league and is NHL ready. He's also that big #1 centre that the leafs have been talking about for years and has lead the OHL in scoring in each of the last 2 years, well he would've lead this year had he been healthy this year.

Do u think that Toronto would want Strome or would they want Christian Dvorak because he has such great chemistry with Mitch Marner?

24 Apr 2016 18:15:12
I'd do it as leafs. Maybe the leafs can switch WSH 2nd for there's 31st and take out pits 1st.

24 Apr 2016 18:16:43
If the leafs want a number 1 centre than just draft Mathews. As far as value it's fairly even although leafs give up the best player though.

24 Apr 2016 19:52:21
@TheAlbertaMoose I obviously took that into consideration, but they could get Strome (future #1 centre) + a top 10 pick. I think they would take that because the differences between Matthews and Strome isn't that huge.

24 Apr 2016 20:40:54
@KingsLover I know the difference isn't that big but, Matthews projects to be an elite centre that no one should pass on. Like I said it's all there value wise. If you need a #1 centre than get the best one you can and draft Matthews.

If they're high on someone that could be in that #7 spot than this trade would work.

25 Apr 2016 17:56:54
The leafs don't need to add anything more than just the first overall pick for that package. If Arizona wants Mathews, the hometown kid they will need to pay a lot to get him. Mathews for strome and their first is a fair deal. Mathews will be better than strome and whoever is taken at 7.

23 Apr 2016 18:20:19
If I were the Rangers I'd make these trades to make a retool because in a couple years if they continue what there doing it will be a painful rebuild.

NYR: Giradi 5.5mil and K. Hayes

ARI: C. Dovorak/ B. Perlini

NYR dump there worst contract and get a really good prospect that they need. Ari dose this to get Kevin Hayes.

Nyr: R. Nash 7.8 mil

Tor: Percy, Komarov, Bracco and pits 1st

Nyr dose this for cap reasons and to get 3 strong prospects and a replacement for Hayes. Leafs do this to make a 3 way trade with retained cap.

(The Rangers then sign Stammer for 10.5 mil)
I think these trades make the Rangers better short term and long term with the addition of Stammer.

The leafs could then trade Nash
Leafs: Nash ( 2.8 mil retained 5mil salery) P. Holland and WSH 2nd

Mon: 9th overall and Mccaron

I'd do it from both teams perspective.

23 Apr 2016 18:30:09
Why would the leafs do that?

23 Apr 2016 18:38:40
No way leafs make that trade although I believe leafs could look at Girardi but believe they want kreider to tale that contract but not for that package.

23 Apr 2016 20:16:07
Thé leaf add but no way hab do this.

24 Apr 2016 04:40:33
Nash, a late 2nd and Holland won't get a top 10 pick and one of the Habs top prospects. Even at salary retained 36 point Nash in 60 games will not bring back a return like that.

22 Apr 2016 17:24:55
I seen a trade similar to this.

Leafs: Edm 1st (4th) and Ferrance

Tor: C. Brown, T. Dermotte, Pits 1st, J. GardinerG. and K. Kappnen/ L. Komarov

Leafs get a great prospect like Tkachuk or Chychrun.

Another trade that wouldn't be bad is

JVR to Montreal for Alex Nylander.

22 Apr 2016 17:51:19
Overpayment from the leafs, oilers can keep there pick and leafs will keep there's.

22 Apr 2016 18:21:57
Thats an awful lot of things that Edmonton does not need or want. I'd rather move it for one solid piece, or just draft a good prospect.

23 Apr 2016 02:59:24
Hehhehe you think the leafs would even offer that? That is funny.

22 Apr 2016 15:21:46
This is a Trade Proposal only if Edmonton is bumped up from the Top 3 Draft Picks for 2016.

Edmonton Trades
1st Round Pick 2016

Toronto Trades
Connor Brown
Dermott
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

Connor Brown was McDavid's RW in the OHL and they clicked together very well and Dermott was also a Teammate of McDavid in Erie and McDavid spoke highly of the Defenceman.

Leafs will be given the chance of Drafting ANylander or Tkachuk with the Edmonton Pick.

Thoughts?

22 Apr 2016 16:07:18
Or the Oilers can use their early second round pick to pick Taylor Raddysh or Alex Debrincat who also played well with McDavid in Erie.

22 Apr 2016 16:41:58
Why would the oilers do this?

22 Apr 2016 17:04:34
the trade is trash. A top 4 pick for a package like that? You could get a better one from somebody else.

22 Apr 2016 17:11:49
I'd be willing to add a lot from the leafs.

22 Apr 2016 18:14:48
Trash FlyingV?
Connor Brown and Dermott are good Prospects not garbage.
If you truly watched these Players play which you couldn't have to say what you said then you really shouldn't post anything at all as it shows you don't know what you are talking about.

22 Apr 2016 18:56:51
Pinball the players aren't trash, but would take a lot more. Plus Brown played with Gaunce as a center, Brown was on the second line to spread out scoring.

22 Apr 2016 18:56:51
Pinball the players aren't trash, but would take a lot more. Plus Brown played with Gaunce as a center, Brown was on the second line to spread out scoring.

22 Apr 2016 20:08:42
So if Connor Brown didn't play on the same line as McDavid and scored that much why isn't it a good Trade JF12?

22 Apr 2016 20:30:28
its not a good thing because edm has eberle pouliot maroon hall possibly draisaitl on the wing if rnh isn't traded. if edm doesn't pick in the top4 they should trade for defensive help, if its a 2-4 pick they should pick laine, puljujarvi, or tkachuk. the reason for that is they hve size which edm lacks. if its the number one i would prefer they trade it for defensive help. they don't need another centre. dermott isn't a for sure thing and doesn't help them out now. connor brown is decent but edm has forwards that are young or in their prime.

22 Apr 2016 22:13:37
Cause it's not enough to acquire that pick? Point production in the OHL doesn't mean success in the NHL.

23 Apr 2016 00:52:05
Bear > Dermott
Just asking cause I have no clue?

23 Apr 2016 01:42:27
Why do you guys even bother with Pinhead? He's never going to learn how awful his trades are, trying to show him the light is pointless.

21 Apr 2016 23:27:38
So leafs need to continue to grow on the back end and making an offer sheet to Seth jones would be a good start. Probably gets matched but worth a shot.

Leafs offer jones - 6 years 36 mil

Will cost the leafs a 1st,2nd, 3rd in compensation. Considering we have extra picks in everyone one of those rounds I think it's worth it. Pits 1st, Was 2nd, Pits 3rd. Then draft Sean day in the second round with our second or pits second.
Thoughts?

22 Apr 2016 01:20:13
Could be wrong but it has to be your own teams picks.

22 Apr 2016 01:53:48
Not probably, Blue Jackets would match in an instant! So what purpose would it serve? Now, if Columbus wanted to go the trade route, they would probably ask for Morgan Rielly and either Mitch Marner or William Nylander. We both know that's not going to happen either.

22 Apr 2016 01:59:03
They don't get to pick what draft picks they give up, it would be their own picks not the ones they have acquired for one. Two it would be next year's draft picks not this year's. Three I doubt Day makes it to the 2ND round.

22 Apr 2016 02:05:58
Jones won't work you need to use your own picks.

22 Apr 2016 02:09:28
Yeah agree with ebs, I think it has to be your own picks.

22 Apr 2016 02:42:58
It has to be your own teams picks. Not to mention Jackets would match that really easily, not really an overpay at all. Only way it would work would if you offered closer to 9 mil, which wouldn't be worth it for Toronto.

22 Apr 2016 06:23:27
Trust me it would be a mistake because they will after send an offer sheet to marner or nylander.

22 Apr 2016 08:46:34
1. they'd match it
2. has to be your teams picks.

21 Apr 2016 20:02:45
I think the rangers need to trade at least 1 high cap player and get a good pick because there in trouble cap wise so:

Nyr: Kriender and Girardi ( 2nd to worst contract in NHL)

Tor: Tor 2nd/ Pits 1st and Percy

Kriender would be a huge assist for the leafs rebuild a great player for a cup run. The Rangers do this for strictly riding there selfs of that terrible contract. Also they need picks.

21 Apr 2016 20:35:13
Kriender? 😂
Girardi is not the 2nd worst contract?

David Clarkson, Dave Bolland, Andrew MacDonald, Dustin Brown go ahead of Girardi. Sure he isn't the player he was, but still a serviceable defender.

21 Apr 2016 22:05:58
Just stop making any more trade rumors and you're good fam.

19 Apr 2016 14:21:37
LAKings Trade
Doughty

Toronto Trades
Kadri
Sparks
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

Not such a crazy deal if you look into the Kings Payroll and Cap hit if they want to resign Lucic and LSchenn, they also get a 1st Round Pick this Draft which was Traded to Carolina, Sparks is a Young Goaltender that can learn from Quick to be there Starter in the future, for the Leafs they get a go to Top DMan that is just hitting his prime.

Thoughts?

21 Apr 2016 12:50:16
Sparks is a backup I'm not sure he has the ceiling to be a reliable starter. Kadri has a good contract but is a middle 6 center. Not sure the late mid-late first makes up the difference for Doughty. I think they've already conceded to letting Lucia and Schenn go and don't think they'd give up Doughty to keep then.

21 Apr 2016 14:33:54
Lombardi said he wouldn't trade Doughty for any other player in the NHL never mind that package.

21 Apr 2016 15:05:14
Never fails to disappoint, Pinhead. Nice one.

21 Apr 2016 17:07:12
Doughty-it.

21 Apr 2016 20:28:12
Not so crazy if they want to resign Lucic and Schenn? Yeah, because Schenn >>> Doughty, right? The deluded sheep strikes again with another head-scratcher.

22 Apr 2016 02:54:58
Looks like pinball was smoking the devils lettuce when he posted this.

17 Apr 2016 15:01:00
Toronto Trades
Komarov
AJohnson
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

Winnipeg Trades
TMyers

Thoughts?

17 Apr 2016 02:08:56
If I were leafs GM I'd offer these trades.
Tor: Komarov

Ana: Anderssons RFA rights

He is the backup on Ana so he is expendable.
Or

Tor: Kappenen ( I know you guys hate these trades but he is expendable and we could use a goalie more. )

NJD: Blackwood
Just makes to much sense IMO.

Tor: JVR, P. Holland and S. Percy or C. Brown if needed

Phi: Sanhiem/ Morin, Hagg and 1st

Leafs biggest needs are a goalie, D and size up front this gives them 2 good D prospects with a good pick. Flyers have Ghost and Provinov so the D are expendable for a top line LW.

Then Tor: 23rd pick (Pits), 18th pick Phi, WSH 2nd 59th and Bozak

CLB: 5th OVR (Chychrun) and Rychal.

At 5th overall they could take Takchuk or Dubious who they could use but they really need a number 1 center and there is none there so they could do this and get a large diversity of prospects. Another good option would be tho move to draft McLoud later who would be a good fit.

In: Chychrun, Rychal, Blackwood/ Andersson, Sanhiem/ Morin and Hagg

Out: JVR, Holland, Percy, Kappnen/ Komarov, Pits 1st, WSH 2nd and Bozak

Sighn Vessey, the Russian D and take a run at Stammer and maybe Radulov.

16 Apr 2016 17:27:19
Penguins:
- 2016 5th

Edmonton:
- Zatkoff.

06 Apr 2016 19:07:10
Next season the penguins should put fleury as a healthy scratch and call up jerry to back up murray and see how that works out. if it works out they should trade fleury.

penguins- marc-andré fleury, Ian cole, 3rd (2017)

Flames - Dougie Hamilton ( retained 20% )


This trade helps both teams. flames get a #1 goalie in fleury

And penguins get a top 4 Dman

Penguins will let lovejoy walk as a free agent and they will resign justin Schultz to a 3 year contract worth 2 or 3 mill

Pens d lines
Daley letang
Määttä Hamilton
Schultz Pouliot
Dumoulin.

06 Apr 2016 20:14:27
Justin Schultz ain't worth 3M don't know how he got a 3rd. And your "idea" to scratch Fleury is terrible. Matt Murray hasn't even played 10 games in the NHL yet. And everyone wants to give him the reins. Fleury has been your backbone the last two years he isn't going anywhere.

06 Apr 2016 21:20:27
@Bud agree with almost everything except Schultz. Looks like a whole new person in Pittsburgh, also kinda crazy fact, he's yet to record a minus rating at the end of the game. Believe he's a plus 10 and has looked much better.

06 Apr 2016 21:39:40
Yeah, I agree but he is playing on a Pittsburgh team which has been on fire. They scored atleast 5 goals in 8 of their last 11 I believe, pretty hard not to have a really good +/ - . He still won't get 3M.

06 Apr 2016 22:57:27
Yeah kinda pumps up the stats when you're scoring ( goals every game lol. I agree he won't get 3 Mil tho.

07 Apr 2016 04:37:24
Easy no from CGY.

07 Apr 2016 08:28:47
Calgary def wouldn't be retaining any salary if this deal was to happen.

07 Apr 2016 12:32:54
so, a healthy scratch for a young top 4 defenceman. sounds like a plan.

05 Apr 2016 13:40:59
Detroit Trades
Howard
1st Round Pick 2016
5th Round Pick 2016

Toronto Trades
Kadri
Sparks
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

With word Datsyuk is leaving the NHL Detroit will need to replace him with a Top 6 Forward and Kadri fits the bill, Sparks fills Howards spot and having a close to a 6 million backup doesn't make sense for Detroit.

Babcock knows Howard better then any other Coach and adding him with JBernier holds the fort until one of there younger Goaltenders or a Drafted one is ready, moving up in the 1st Round is the biggest factor in this Trade Proposal and adding Detroits 5th gives the Leafs 2 Picks in every round.

Thoughts?

05 Apr 2016 14:14:29
Leafs don't want or need Howard.
I think the best option is going to be free agency (Anderson or next year Bishop) they need to use 1 or 2 of these picks and draft a Goalie like every other team does, trading for a goalie who is no better then Bernier is not the answer.

Just my opinion.

05 Apr 2016 14:33:18
that's horrible for the leafs. did you have an epiphany and are now a DET fan?

05 Apr 2016 15:17:25
Sparks>Howard in my opinion just on age, salary and potential. Kadri's is no superstar or first line Center but him added to Pitts first to move up a couple of spots? If Detroit falls out and Pitts makes it far in the playoffs then maybe but still a no from Toronto. Babcock was the one who went with mrzanek over Howard in the PO obvious that he knows he is garbage.

05 Apr 2016 21:00:32
I posted a simular trade with the Leafs trading with Pit for Fleury and got no way Pit does that etc. because Pit would never go with MMurray as there #1.
Well here we are a few weeks later and Pit is doing very well with MMurray as there #1 with Fleury out probably for the season.
What I am getting at is most on here that are quick to rip someone don't know anything so go ahead and rip me and others, the truth is time after time none of you are right in the end, anyone who has watched either Howard or MMurray play know they are both #1 Goaltenders, Howard is still a Top Goaltender and to think not means you are wrong again.

05 Apr 2016 21:38:02
Murray might be playing really good doesn't mean you make him your number 1. Penguins have no choice right now.

05 Apr 2016 22:29:43
MMurray is a #1 Pit knows it and so does the rest of the league.
Every Goaltender started the same way in the NHL a Rookie that became a #1.
So to say Pit isn't leaning that way next year is close minded Ebsolutely.

05 Apr 2016 22:50:12
@Pinball
Fleury has been a top 5-10 goalie this year and was last year aswell. You really have no clue. Let Murray play a full season or 2 as a backup then maybe propose your dumb trades. He's a good Goalie but not ready to handle 60+ games a year.

06 Apr 2016 02:57:19
Most goalies don't play a few games then take on number 1 duties and play 60 games. Anything is possible I guess but that's a pretty big risk to trade Fluery. Maybe if Murray proves he can handle a big work load in playoffs and there's an expansion draft.

02 Apr 2016 20:36:03
Someone brought up what I think has been a continuing trend in Pittsburgh. When Crosby or Malkin are out of the line up, the other steps up their game. I think the Penguins lack depth and have too much $ invested in 5 players. According to a top source out of St. Louis (Tank) the Blues only need is a top center.

Malkin for Berglund, Shattenkirk and Fabbri

The salary is very close and it gives St. Louis a #1 center. I don't know a lot about Fabbri but his #'s look pretty good. Maybe substitute a 1st instead of Fabbri? Pittsburgh adds depth and have another season to try and lock up Shattenkirk and decide if they want to keep Berglund or let him walk. Fair deal?

02 Apr 2016 23:35:36
Blues wish.

03 Apr 2016 01:12:07
😂😂😂 That shot at tank.

03 Apr 2016 02:00:21
Blues add, maybe tarasenko.

03 Apr 2016 02:26:02
Prepare to rip me. I'm really impressed with fabbri this year. I think this trade doesn't happen for a few reasons.
Malkin though he is 30 is still an out standing center and I don't see Pittsburgh trading him for that.

Fabbri was a center in juniors and he is having a pretty good season as a 19yr old. Like to see him developed another year or two plus He is cost controlled.

Blues really can't afford to part with the 1st rnd pick or any picks. Our forward prospect pool is almost dry. Just rattie and Barbashev showing promise.

03 Apr 2016 02:26:44
Blues add.

03 Apr 2016 11:57:32
damn tank that was actually a very fair and reasonably comment ;)

but yeah your prospect cupboards are pretty bare, so yes keep your young players.

03 Apr 2016 20:04:02
I was just wondering if you guys thought it was fair. I understand the prospect pool being dry but there's no way to get a #1 center without giving up something.

29 Mar 2016 22:21:56
I just seemed to be looking at Phil Kessel vs. Tyler Seguin, and I decided to come up with a lil' something for y'all to decide.

All in all heres what both teams ended up with from the Kessel/ Seguin/ Hamilton

Toronto Acquires:
Kasperi Kapanen from Pittsburgh for Phil Kessel

Scott Harrington from Pittsbugh for Phil Kessel

1st Round Pick from Pittsburgh for Phil Kessel

2nd Round Pick from San Jose for Nick Spaling, Spaling brough in from Pittsburgh for Kessel

3rd Round Pick from Pittsburgh for Phil Kessel

Boston Acquires:
Loui Eriksson - UFA, brought in for Tyler Seguin

Jimmy Hayes - Brought in from Florida for Reilly Smith (Smith part of Seguin trade)

Joe Morrow - Brought in for Tyler Seguin

Zach Phillips - Brought in for Jared Knight

Jeremy Lauzon - Brought in as 2nd Round Pick, from Calgary, for Dougie Hamilton

Jacob Forzbacka Karlson - Brought in as 2nd Round Pick, from Calgary, for Dougie Hamilton

Zach Senyshyn - Brought in as 1st Round Pick, from Calgary for Dougie Hamilton

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All, in all, the true winners from the Kessel/ Seguin trade were Pittsburgh, Dallas and Calgary. However between Boston and Toronto, heres how it stacks up.

Kasperi Kapanen >> Zach Senyshyn
1st Round Pick, 3rd Round Pick=> Jacob Forzbacka Karlsson, Jeremy Lauzon
2nd Round Pick = Jimmy Hayes
Scott Harrington.

29 Mar 2016 22:47:30
Near the end, heres what I had to say:

Scott Harrington = Joe Morrow, Zach Phillips
? = Loui Eriksson?!?

Here, there is no true winner. However, when the offseason comes we will know. If Loui stays with Boston, Boston wins the trade. If he leaves, Toronto wins the trade.

What are your thoughts?

29 Mar 2016 23:00:37
I think both GM's were stupid Burke and Charelli and were deservedly fired.

29 Mar 2016 23:17:34
You can't really say who won the trade until another 5 years minimum because of all the futures involved in both trades like you mention (all the Hamilton picks), Pittsburghs first, Kapanen etc. etc.

29 Mar 2016 23:49:38
You clearly didn't do your research on the prospects Boston got in that Hamilton trade, they are all having amazing seasons.

30 Mar 2016 08:57:44
How's Senyshyn doing? Even if he's having a good season it looks like they made a huge mistake not grabbing Kyle Conner. I thought for sure they were going to when they had the chance.

30 Mar 2016 09:00:01
Ok Senyshyn has 45 Goals and 20 assist in 66 games. Pretty good. But junior success is no guarantee it will carry over. However Kyle Conners 70+ points in 30ish games is crazy.

30 Mar 2016 15:54:32
1. Jeremy Lauzon had and is, having a great season (49 GP, 55 pts)
2. Zach Senyshyn carried a bad Greyhounds team to a playoff spot with 45 goals, and just had 4 points in their first two playoff games
3. JFK was a second line center in the WJC for Sweden and was one of BU's better players while being a freshman
4. Jared Knight was just a bad pick seeing as how Boston was able to draft Ryan Spooner 13 picks later

Point is, this trade is still playing out. There's too many prospects and picks involved at the moment to say who the real winner is.

30 Mar 2016 18:13:18
I can agree that Knight was just bad, when it comes to Connor vs Senyshyn though of course anyone would probably take Connor over Senyshyn but considering he's a Winnipeg prospect that is irrelevent to this post. Senyshyn is doing very well at the moment nevertheless and like Bud said the real clear winner won't be seen until all the pieces pan out.

31 Mar 2016 02:57:55
Dallas won the trade.

29 Mar 2016 15:40:40
Summer Trade Proposal.

Pittsburgh Trades
Fleury

Toronto Trades
Kadri
Komarov
Sparks

MMurray should be ready for the #1 Roll in Goal.
Kadri and Kovarov with Bennett on the 3rd Line gives Pit great foward depth.
Sparks is either in the AHL or NHL to backup MMurray but see Pit going out to sign a Vet UFA backup like CJohnson.

Every Team builds from Goaltender out just like the Leafs did years ago Trading for Fuhr.
With the possibility of Matthews, Stamkos, Radulov and Vesey being added up front Kadri and Komarov are easier to Trade without losing any scoring at forward.

Thoughts?

29 Mar 2016 17:51:42
Pittsburgh won't trade Fleury. Murray may be playing well but is still quite young. They don't want Murray to have a sophomore slump and have to rely on Zatkoff or Dparks now would they?

29 Mar 2016 20:43:47
Expansion Draft not far away
Yes a Fleury and Bishop will be Traded probably this summer.
MMurray is the real deal and I bet Pit knows it to.

29 Mar 2016 21:05:46
Pinball the expansion is likely 2017/ 18 and they still have a whole other offseason to settle out the Fleury situation. They will not give the reigns to Murray at such a young age, look what that did to DiPietro and they can afford to keep Fleury plus have Murray as a backup until they are comfortable with him starting. You need to develop players, not throw them into the fire and hope it works out in your favour

Bishop will leave as a UFA, much like the Stamkos situation this year. Vasilevsky will take over and Bishop will cash in with another team. Tampa hung onto Stamkos even though the return could have been massive, they'll just bank on Bishop winning them a cup and hope Vasilevsky is ready.

29 Mar 2016 21:30:07
Murray may end up being the real deal but what NHL team that is a playoff contender year after year and relies heavily on their goaltender to steal some games for them is going to hand the reigns to a goalie with 7 NHL games under his belt? They wouldn't. It's a ridiculous idea. Why can't you get that through your head?

30 Mar 2016 02:54:30
Ok Chirp

Patrick Roy
Andy Moog / Grant Fuhr
Ron Hextall
Felix Potvin
Bill Ranford

To name a few in the past who like MMurray where giving the #1 and ran with it, Bishop now in TB so that's not a very good fact base argument.

30 Mar 2016 13:19:01
why would the leafs want fleury?

31 Mar 2016 20:55:26
Murray got lit up by Buffalo the other night. He's not ready to start 60-65+ games a year lol.

 
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