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24 May 2016 05:48:50
Penguins Offseason

First post so be nice lol

Beau Bennett and a 2nd for Nail Yakupov. Yak will fit well on Genos wing.

Pouilot + for a similar Lw prospect. I would have said Drouin a month ago but he has been playing great these playoffs.

Fleury to Calgary for Hamilton and a 2nd. Fleurys numbers have been great this season. Best in his career and he's only 31 goalies take longer to develop.

Sign Jimmy Vesey and Shultz for 3 years 2 mil per
Let Lovejoy walk. Resign Cullen 1 year 1 million
Sign a veteran back up ie Jonas Gustavson

Line up

Vesey Crosby Hornqvist
Kunitz Malkin Yakupov
Hagelin Bonino Kessel
Kunchackl Cullen Fehr

Maata Letang
Dumolin Hamilton
Cole Daley

Murray
Veteran FA.

24 May 2016 11:45:48
Not believable at all.

24 May 2016 14:46:46
The Yak one isn't bad, but after that it gets dicey. The Flames wouldn't give u Hamilton + a 2nd (unless your talking bout Freddie and not Dougie) . Doesn't make sense to trade Pouliot for a LW prospect. I mean u have Sheary and he looks pretty solid. Vesey will either sign in Boston or Toronto, that's a given. And i would not sign Schultz to a 3 year deal.

24 May 2016 16:24:04
Vesey isn't going to Pittsburgh and Hamilton isn't getting traded I doubt it.

24 May 2016 16:39:08
Love how you're trying to convince yourself that a 31 year old Fleury, with injury/ concussion history and overpriced, is worth a 22 year old, stud defenseman with already a couple 40+ point seasons. and CGY"s going to toss in a 2nd. Just for kicks.

Hamilton is not getting traded, people.

24 May 2016 18:57:01
Vesey has to sign an entry level contract.

23 May 2016 14:34:58
Leafs get:

Sam Bennet
Doug Hamilton
6th Overall pick

Flames get:

1st overall
Gardiner
Kapanen
29th pick (Penguins)

23 May 2016 16:56:57
No no no no no no no.

23 May 2016 15:14:33
Matthews is the big bodied centre the Leafs need. Plus Leafs giving up too much.

23 May 2016 15:47:38
The Leafs are not trading that first overall pick, unless somehow the Oilers go crazy and trade Connor McDavid. Outside of that, the Leafs won't be moving their first overall pick.

23 May 2016 17:54:59
^^trading Mcdavid for Matthews is more crazy than the leafs trading him for this package.

23 May 2016 22:20:52
Mcdavid is the true only untouchable in the entire league lmao are you kidding me.

23 May 2016 23:59:09
You'd blow him if he'd let you eh Mcblowjob?

23 May 2016 02:18:13
Toronto
- Percy

Pittsburgh
- Bennett.

23 May 2016 02:43:21
Not bad for Toronto.

23 May 2016 17:29:15
Percy will be a good d man we will regret letting him go.

22 May 2016 22:50:22
Winnipeg
• Josh Morrisey

Toronto
• Pittsburgh 2016 1st Round
• 2016 3rd Round pick.

23 May 2016 02:45:00
No from Winnepeg.

23 May 2016 11:56:13
Do people think before posting proposals like this?
Nope. Not at all.

22 May 2016 20:22:55
Canucks trade Virtanen/ McCann
and Markstrom for Calgary's 6th overall pick.

Pittsburgh trade Malkin for Columbus 3rd overall pick straight up. not sure if Gino has no move and Columbus is close to cap. just a thought.

22 May 2016 20:30:30
Not enough straight uo for Malkin.
Calgary probably says nope.

22 May 2016 21:13:43
No from Calgary and probably no from Columbus.

22 May 2016 22:25:02
I think CGY might consider this. Why not? Biggest needs, future (now preferably) top 6 RW and a #1 goalie. Not saying this fixes CGY's issues, but it could.

Why does VCR do this, though?

22 May 2016 23:56:31
Markstrom isn't a number 1 and the pick at 6 will be better then Virtanen.

23 May 2016 01:41:56
@Bud, based on what? Virtanen was a pretty prolific scorer in jr. And Markstrom, maybe not a proven #1 yet but could be ready to break out. If not, he's a tradable back up, at least. I think CGY would think about it. It would depend on how they felt about Virtanen in his draft year.

23 May 2016 12:51:39
Why would pens do this? Imo malkin is going to be better than pulljarvi (didn't really care to look up spelling) for years to come, and the pens are a win now team.

22 May 2016 18:53:49
Penguins off season
Resign
Schultz
Cullen ( if he doesn't retire)

Let walk
Lovejoy

Trades
Penguins- rights to beau Bennett and Pitts 2nd (2016)
Oilers- nail yakupov

Penguins- Ian cole, 3rd (2017)
Canadians- alexei emelin (10/ 15 retrained)

Penguins- trevor Daley
Late/ mid 1st in 2016

Hörnqvist Crosby Sheary
Kunitz Malkin yakupov
Hagelin Bonino kessel
Rust/ Kühnhackl Cullen fehr

Letang Määttä
Schultz emelin
Dumoulin Pouliot

Fleury
Murray.

22 May 2016 12:51:01
Tor: Bozak and Pits 1st

Det: Datsyuk and 1st McAvoy
Also
Tor: JVR

Mon: 9th ( Joulivi or Svechnikov ) and possibly add a prospect
And

Tor: Kappnen

Bos: M. Subban
Plus
Tor: Komarov

NJD: 41st

This is my dream draft day and I tried to make it realistic please tell me what trades don't seem reasonable.

22 May 2016 14:04:18
Komerov may only be worth that, which is debatable but he's worth more to the Leafs then that so they decline that.

22 May 2016 14:23:08
Kapanen for M. Subban?! 😆

Dude, you really got to stop living in the Toronto media protective bubble. It's rotting your mind.

22 May 2016 15:42:36
Why would Montreal add to the 9th overall for JVR? I don't think that makes sense cause imo, the 9th is already an overpayment.

22 May 2016 18:05:20
Then they don't have to add.

22 May 2016 20:08:35
Why does jersey want Komorov?

22 May 2016 20:22:21
Svechnickov was drafted last year. I'm assuming you mean Sergachev.

22 May 2016 21:30:06
Why not jvr is still a good forward.

22 May 2016 21:34:22
Yes pucklover and because NJ doesn't have a player similar to him Ebsoulitly.

23 May 2016 04:39:36
Habs trade Desharnais and Condon and Chi's 2nd rounder in '17 to Leafs for JVR.

22 May 2016 01:19:39
Edmonton Oilers:
- Scott Wedgewood

New Jersey Devils:
- Laurent Brossoit
- 2016 3rd (Penguins)

22 May 2016 01:29:51
Lol.

22 May 2016 02:14:44
Some times you make me question if your a oilers fan.

22 May 2016 12:55:46
Why? Like. . . . why?

21 May 2016 20:49:11
Colorado trades 10th overall to Toronto for Marinicn, Kapanen, Pitts 1st and WSH 2nd

Leafs draft Chychrun.

21 May 2016 22:04:49
chychrun isn't falling to tenth and that isn't enough actual value for him either.

21 May 2016 22:27:36
Nope. Not even a little. Colorado would just draft Chychrun if available at 10. Not trade him away for that stuff.

21 May 2016 19:20:18
Tor: Bozak and Pits 1st

Det: Dasyuk and 16th ( McAvoy )

Dumps a 7.5 mil contract while getting good value for the 1st.

Tor: Komarov, RFA rights to Holland and Bracco/ Percy and 71st from NJ

Bos: 30th overall SJ and Khokhalchev



Komarov= 30th IMO and Khokhalchev will need to be traded for something. Also Holland dosent mean much to leafs.

Put JVRs name out there and ask for one of Chycrun/ Joulivi/ Svechnikov/ Barrie/ Flower/ Trouba/ Vatanen/ Dumba or Brodin

Be active in Free agency but don't get out of hand sign Expirenced depth players to 1 year contacts like Stepniak, Prust, Polak ETC and express light interest in Stamkos if he hits open Market. Also Vesey

Save trading for a goalie until next year.

This is my attempt at a realistic offseason.

21 May 2016 19:26:38
Bracco is a lot better then you think >>>>> Percy.

21 May 2016 19:29:32
First trade is reasonable if Datsyuk is leaving for the KHL

Don't think Komarov is worth that much. He really is just a 3rd liner that can chip in offensively from time to time and can fill in bigger roles with injuries. Shouldn't cost Boston a 1st and Khoklachev. Boston wouldn't be interested in Percy or Holland plus the Leafs shouldn't give up Bracco. I'm a leaf fan and just being reasonable. Boston has enough 3rd line wingers anyways.

21 May 2016 20:31:34
I feel like Komarov, Holland and Bracco could fetch that but what would Toronto need To add?

19 May 2016 06:05:34
Edmonton:
- Jeff Zatkoff

Pittsburgh:
- 2017 6th (Conditional)

-Oilers need a backup goalie
-Gives LB more time
-Zatkoff is a decent goalie
-Penguins get something

Conditional:
If Zatkoff signs a 1 way deal.

19 May 2016 06:29:13
Zatkoff is a UFA on July 1st, why not just sign him?

19 May 2016 01:46:43
Barrie

for

JVR, pits first, Wash second

then sign him to same contract as reilly.

19 May 2016 02:31:19
Why would Colorado trade Barrie when they are so weak defensively?

19 May 2016 03:03:22
Hockey writes put this trade up.


Toronto - Jake Gardiner, Kasperi Kapanen, and a 2017 third round pick.


Colorado - barrie.

19 May 2016 03:58:48
Actually a plausible Leaf proposal. Impressive.

19 May 2016 04:35:47
way too much for barrie. jvr and the second is enough.

equal quality playes to their position, but d is more imortant than wing, so, the second.

please tell me if i'm retarded.

19 May 2016 05:21:09
@JF12
I was surprised too, but I've heard that he's likely to be dealt at the draft/ offseason.

18 May 2016 15:13:59
Ott wants to make playoffs now they need a big goal scoring forward not a lot of money in the organization. Wonder if Tor and Ott can come together again

Ott Matt O'Connor harpur and 12th overall
Tor jvr and pitts 1st

Ottawa gets a big player score 30 on a good contract get a late 1st to grab a prospect.

Tor gets a goalie for the system better then they have and they need. Harpur is a 6 6 dman that can develop into a 4 to 6 dman hits hard good skater and move up in the draft grab best player at 12 spot.

18 May 2016 22:28:00
get lost ott we already gave you enough and took on three garbage players.

18 May 2016 23:11:33
I like it … I'm assuming value is close. I don't know how O'Connor is doing and how OTT values him cause there tenders are old ish.

19 May 2016 01:02:28
OConnor was terrible this year in the AHL and JVR is to much to move up to mid 1st round pick (depending on what players are still available there) IMO.

19 May 2016 06:07:30
He wasn't that bad the senators where bad and that made his numbers bad. And you take a flyer on a young goalie that is big they take time develop look at bishop he didn't come around for a long time now he is top 5 goalie in nhl.

18 May 2016 13:22:42
Draft Day Trade Proposal Shocker.

Toronto Trades
Kadri
Gardiner
Sparks
Kapanen (AHL)
Timashov (QMJHL)
1st Round Pick 2016 (Pittsburgh's)

Winnipeg Trades
Stafford
Enstrom
Hellebuyck
2nd Overall Pick 2016

Read yesterday that the Jets may Trade this pick but it would take a lot for it to happen.
In this Trade Proposal the Leafs would offer a lot to make it happen.

Thoughts?

18 May 2016 14:40:32
sorry Pin, but the leafs may be giving up a lot believe me they are, but, that isn't enoguh quality for the jets to trade helly and laine

my opinion.

18 May 2016 14:53:53
Peg won't move Connor he is a top notch goalie prospect maybe the best between him and vasi.

18 May 2016 15:18:19
Quantity doesn't get you quality.

18 May 2016 15:19:30
Don't be greedy. Slight chance you can get Laine, No chance they throw in Hellebyuck too. He alone is worth Reilly/ Nylander/ Marner.

18 May 2016 15:53:31
I wouldn't want to give up timashov but no from jets.

18 May 2016 17:00:15
You maybe right or you maybe wrong Big0 Draft Day we will see.
And its also Quality going to Winnipeg these are NHL and good Prospect Players in my Trade Proposal.

19 May 2016 13:58:19
Aren't Sparks and Kapanen being traded in, like, 7 different proposals on draft day? All of which you claim are going to happen, btw.

19 May 2016 17:51:36
This is one of your most delusional proposals yet. And that's saying a lot because they are all bad.

20 May 2016 00:26:19
Jets laugh!

18 May 2016 05:54:20
Tor marner pitts 1st wash 2nd
Win 2nd overall comrie

Win gets top flight prospect another 1st to grab a decent player and a second to do the same thing

Tor gets 1st 2 picks of draft to rebuild and a goalie of the future.

18 May 2016 08:13:06
Doesn't really help the Peg. They have a very deep prospect pool and the PITs 1st and WSH 2nd don't hold a lot of value to them. I'd see them declining this offer, it's not bad, but a team would give more.

18 May 2016 09:27:50
Its actually terrible for Laine alone!

18 May 2016 10:35:44
Yeah I somehow missed Comrie on my first time reading it. Makes it slightly worse.

18 May 2016 11:03:13
It's not terrible yup marner is resonalbly close to liane so it's just pretty bad.

18 May 2016 12:03:22
@VBB
Marner is a blue chip prospect no doubt but I would say Laine is a tier higher then Marner.

18 May 2016 12:03:22
@VBB
Marner is a blue chip prospect no doubt but I would say Laine is a tier higher then Marner.

18 May 2016 15:47:26
It doesn't make sense for either team IMO.

18 May 2016 02:41:38
So the jets are rumoured to be interested in trading the second overall pick. What about this option from the leafs

JVR, Gardiner, Pits 1st, 2017 first

for

2nd overall, Trouba, Comrie.

18 May 2016 05:07:53
lol jets aren't trading the 2nd overall lol, u sharing drugs with mclarly08 to think off this bad trade.

18 May 2016 05:22:51
If you were the Jets would you honestly make that trade? Get real.

18 May 2016 13:22:59
Possibly, only because the leafs pick may be #1 again next year.

18 May 2016 15:49:04
It makes no sense for Winnipeg.

18 May 2016 16:34:11
Yeah that would be smart to risk it. You know because it's such a high chance of getting first overall.

17 May 2016 17:43:58
What I see the Leafs doing from the Draft on with Matthews obviously being Drafted 1st Overall.

Trades.

Vancouver or Calgary Trades there 1st Round Pick for Kapanen, Dermott, and Pits 1st Round Pick.

Vancouver and Calgary are rebuilding and both clubs are weak on the wings and on Defence.
The Leafs like either Tkachuk or ANylander in this Draft yes its 3 for 1 in Prospects but that one is a more impact player.

Nashville Trades Vesey plus a Conditional 5th Rounder in 2017 if Vesey doesn't sign with the Leafs for Percy.

Vesey isn't signing in Nashville so at least they get a prospect back.
This is a roll of the dice for the Leafs hoping this gives them that extra time to talk to Vesey about signing in Toronto, if he doesn't that's ok to as Percy doesn't seem to be in the Leaf future plans.

Rangers Trade Girardi for Lupul and Corrado.

Rangers need Cap Space badly and they can put Lupul on LTIR and still have a replacement in the bottom 6 with Corrado.
Leafs want a Vet DMan that shoots right and Giradi isn't that bad only his contract is but the Leafs have lots of Space.

Pens Trade Fleury or Anaheim Trades Andersen for Komarov, Sparks, and a 2nd Round Pick 2017.

Both Pit and Anaheim have Starters so both those players will be moved, more Fleury I believe with MMurray showing he is for real and Fleury is a starter not a backup.

UFA's Incoming.

Stamkos (homecoming party)
Zaitsev (already signed)
Vesey (he will sign I believe)
Boyes (resign for depth)

UFA's Outgoing.

Parenteau and Grabner

I see Parenteau in Calgary to play alongside Gaudreau and Monahan and Grabner to the KHL.

Thoughts?

17 May 2016 18:04:01
1 if the leafs move up they take a dman we have wingers in the system we need d men or we just be the 2nd coming of the oilers.

17 May 2016 18:08:18
Where do you get that CGY is weak on defence? Gio, Brodie, Hamilton are the big 3. Wotherspoon has progressed very nicely and is ready for a fultime NHL gig as is Jalob Nakladal. And prospects we have Kylington, Andersson (probably the best) who are looking very very solid, Kulak, Hickey, Culkin, Sieloff. We are not weak at D.

It's going to take a hell of a lot more than Kapanen and a very late 1st for you to move to #6. Add JVR and CGY may start to listen. And that is only if Tkachuk and Dubois are gone before we pick.

17 May 2016 19:22:36
Like I said either the Canucks or Flames for there 1st Round Pick.
Vancouver is weak on the Wings and Defence when it comes to Prospects so let's say its Vancouver not Calgary for all you Flame fans.

17 May 2016 20:13:09
Why not just draft Tkachuk.

17 May 2016 20:24:36
By the way SC4CGY Dermott would be Calgary's best DMan Prospect and Kapanen there best RWing Prospect if this Trade happened.
These are 2 Players that will be NHLers in the future.

17 May 2016 20:30:33
@SC4CGY Pinball has actually put up a decent proposal (for once), Kappanen (projected top 9 winger), Dermott (projected top 6 d-man) and a 1st round pick in a fairly deep draft will more than likely get the 6th overall pick. Maybe the leafs add WSH's second and Calgary adds a 3rd, but still they are not going to add a top player like JVR to the pot just to get pick number 6.

17 May 2016 20:37:36
Pinball, I very much disagree with your assessment of Dermott. He is not a better prospect than Andersson or Kylington. Andersson has outscored him the last 2 years by a fair margin. Kylington is playng in the AHL already and is doing very well at 18 years of age.

Regardless of what you think about Dermott, he is not an asset CGY needs or would be interested in for the 6th overall.

17 May 2016 20:39:50
Not a terrible post Pinball. I believe ot would be Calgary that would trade that pick not the Canucks, they REALLY need this pick. Nashville most likely won't get anything better so sure why not. Rangers would take that deal, though it doesn't really help them with their cap problems because what if Lupul is able to play next year? Pens should keep Fleury so they have someone to count pn if/ when Murray ever falters. I'd could potentially see Anaheim taking that, if maybe Toronto takes Clayton Stoner back as well to free up space for them. The Dicks would probably add in a pick or something maybe 3rd round? And lastly I feel as though if the Leafs draft Matthews then they really shouldn't draft Stamkos because they'll just be putting themselves in Cap hell and ruin the team when Nylander, Marner, and Matthews need big contracts. Let him be the problems of New York, Carolina, Detroit, Tampa, etc.
But yeah once again. Not a bad post at all.

17 May 2016 20:44:00
Take out Dermott and add JVR.

17 May 2016 21:41:15
Once again people defining D man on points and no actual defensive play!

17 May 2016 22:06:01
Ask yourself this question again, and honestly this time.

"What I see the Leafs doing from the Draft on. "

Can you HONESTLY see them doing any of those trades or signings? And under what basis?

Even if you can see Toronto doing these trades, can you also see Calgary/ Vancouver, Nashville and New York doing these trades? These ideas seem like nothing more than a pipe dream.

Bottom line is, we don't know what management is thinking, and there's a reason why none of us are part of the management.

Who would honestly consider trading for Girardi at this point? Maybe 3-4 years ago, but now? Get a grip. The leafs would be better off burying Lupul on the LTIR than having to put up with Girardi's contract.

Think before you post. I know that seems to be a very common suggestion from others against you.

18 May 2016 01:22:59
That package may be better suited for ARI at 7.

18 May 2016 01:29:06
I don't think Toronto would realistically do any of these it's just that the values he's showing aren't that off.

18 May 2016 01:45:29
These all favor Toronto! Especially the Goalie from Pitts or Anh one and the Rangers one! This is NOT a good post. At all.

18 May 2016 03:41:04
@kingslover: Why does CGY do this? I'm not saying the value isn't close (although I don't think it is), I'm saying CGY has no need to do this. At #6, CGY will likely get something better than Kapanen and the late 1st, and they just do not need another D prospect, especially a smaller one. Kylington is an incredible skater and Andersson is a pretty well rounded D man already. vbbbvvbb suggested removing Dermott and adding JVR, that make a lot more sense.

17 May 2016 14:55:15
Jets trade 2nd overall, Trouba to Toronto for JVR, Gardiner, Kapanen, Pitts 1st, WSH 2nd, 2017 2nd

Leafs don't have to make a decision and they can draft both Matthews and Laine

Just idea, probably Toronto adds but not that much. Not sure what they would add.

17 May 2016 15:16:05
Terrible oh terrible. Please change your name you make Leaf fans look bad.

17 May 2016 16:04:26
Leafs would do it don't believe Jets would though.

17 May 2016 16:04:42
Sigh.
You're new here, aren't you?

17 May 2016 22:45:09
people only disagree with chirp because they don't like him, he more often than not makes valid (yet incredibly sarcastic, and quite amusing) points which just knock OPs down a few pegs, and rightfully so for the amount of crap posted here.

18 May 2016 04:26:03
@Bud literally your posts are quite bad, it was a joke chill, a trade like that obvi wouldn't go down. just a crazy scenario.

17 May 2016 14:46:18
Tor - Tyler Bozak, 3rd Rd pick (Pittsburgh)
Nsh - Colin Wilson

Tor - 1st Rd pick (Pitts), 2nd Rd pick (wsh), Brendan Leipsic, frank corrado
Tmp or Pitts - Matt Murray or Andrei Vaslievski

Tor - James VanRiemsdyk, 2nd Rd pick
Mtl - 1st Rd pick (if Nylander drops)

17 May 2016 14:49:40
The first one might be doable but the Murray/ vasilevski one won't happen.

17 May 2016 15:42:47
Didn't think it would I don't really like the idea of it either just like the idea of Toronto going after a young goalie.

17 May 2016 19:00:25
Both Murray and Vasilevski will be very expensive.

23 May 2016 04:42:26
Leafs add big time.

17 May 2016 13:10:07
To leafs: Tristan jarry
To penguins: Matt hunwick, 25% retained.

Leafs get a goalie prospect, penguins get an inexpensive defence man to add to the d depth, if Toronto says no, then maybe pens add like beau Bennett. Thoughts?

17 May 2016 14:09:06
Naw from Pens, they got enough 5-7 Defenders already. I could see a team giving more for Jarry.

17 May 2016 14:50:44
Blow job, who do think the pens could get for him?

17 May 2016 16:04:55
Not really sure what they need. Gauging values between goalies and players is certainly difficult. I just know they could do better then Hunwick.

 
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