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24 Nov 2016 00:12:08
Dallas Stars: Julius Honka, 1st
Pittsburgh Penguins: Marc Andre Fleury

Dallas Stars: Antti Niemi
Philadelphia Flyers: 4th

Dallas Stars: Radek Faksa
Calgary Flames: Dennis Wideman (50% Retained)

24 Nov 2016 00:16:38
Fleury has a NMC and won't waive it to go to Dallas.

24 Nov 2016 00:23:03
Easy no from Philly and Dallas on the third trade. And probably too much for Fluery.

24 Nov 2016 00:35:58
@Borris why wouldn't he? Just curious why you think that.

24 Nov 2016 04:44:43
Don't think Philadelphia needs 3 mediocre goalies.

24 Nov 2016 12:46:06
Honka is going to be good. I wouldn't trade him unless Dalas is sure they can win the cup with Fleury. Which they can't because their D-Core is too weak this year.

24 Nov 2016 16:32:50
rederov - you're post is on point, everything in that is FACTS.

25 Nov 2016 00:07:25
Dallas is a non playoff team, and while Pens might not repeat this year they should remain a Cup contender for a few more years.

18 Nov 2016 08:39:15
Calgary: Dougie Hamilton, Freddie Hamilton
Pittsburgh: Olli Maatta, Eric Fehr.

15 Nov 2016 18:42:13
CGY: Hamilton, Elliotte
PIT: Fleury, Pouliot or Schultz.

15 Nov 2016 02:24:30
Pitts: Hamilton, Versteeg, Elliot

Cal: Fleury, Pouliot, Fehr, 1st.

14 Nov 2016 01:45:08
WPG-PIT

WPG: Fleury
PIT: Hutchinson, Connor, Petan, Dano, 2017 2nd, 2019 1st

WHY FOR WPG: They get a NHL proven goalie who has played big moments and gone deep in the playoffs. The Jets have a great scoring core, but their goaltending hurts them. Get Fleury, score 3/ 4 goals a game, and they will be back in the playoffs. Hellebuyck is also ineligible to be claimed in the expansion draft, so they don't feal losing him. Fleury's value won't be as high because Murray has the #1 job and Fleury will be sitting on the bench most of the season.

WHY FOR PIT: They get a backup who can play some games for you. Although he is eligible for expansion draft, Murray is not so they protect Hutchinson. When Hutch is a UFA at the end of 2017-18, they let him go and then they call up Jarry to be their backup. They also get some top prospects and high draft picks.

14 Nov 2016 06:44:33
I'm pretty sure both Hellebuyck and Murray have to be protected. Anyways, huge overpayment for Fleury IMO.

14 Nov 2016 11:51:03
O my God that is utter trash. Fleury wouldn't be able to get Connor alone, and I don't see why Winnipeg would even want him. That already have Hellebuyck.

14 Nov 2016 11:56:48
No. first and second year players do not count towards their teams protected total.

14 Nov 2016 12:18:03
Kyle Connor>>>Flury Enough said.

14 Nov 2016 13:29:41
This is both there 3rd season pro so yeah they have to be protected.

14 Nov 2016 23:12:27
Well if its their 3rd year pro, great for PIT. They won't lose Hutch. Then Winnepeg figures something out but VB Beuty, get your stupid brain working. Penguins aren't dumb enough to trade Connor for Fleury strait up. Maybe you are though.

15 Nov 2016 02:27:30
dumbest fake trade posting ever . straight induction into the NTR hall of shame.

13 Nov 2016 05:07:43
Kypreos mentioned that Pittsburgh was kicking the tires on Doug Hamilton.

Penguins - Fleury
Flames - Hamilton

This may involve more players because the pens might have to take a goalie back.

13 Nov 2016 17:06:10
Pens want more.

13 Nov 2016 17:15:41
Well Pittsburgh adds, but not terrible base.

14 Nov 2016 03:32:01
Dumb. How's Calgary keep both tenders with the expansion draft. Can you not protect only one goalie?

10 Nov 2016 01:26:58
yakupov Hasn't had the best start with his new club but I still think he can become a decent top 6 forward

Pens-3rd

Blues- yakupov

Yakupov could play on Malkin's line or any line really but I think the pens should give him a shot

Thoughts?

10 Nov 2016 08:10:22
only problem is his 3.5m or soething contract, do pitts have enough room for him? However I do think he'd be a good fit though.

10 Nov 2016 14:14:35
Yakapov is the first overall all pick. If Pittsburg wants him it starts with Crosby. Oh sorry, thought he played for the Oilers still. It's an ok trade Yakapov is trash.

10 Nov 2016 19:01:53
Lol what ^.

10 Nov 2016 20:46:39
Lol VanCity. unfortunately that's a stance bias that's consistently seen on this site.

11 Nov 2016 05:20:05
Blues send Yak to Leafs for 3rd rounder and Bibeau.

11 Nov 2016 07:14:29
Stance Buas? I don't even remember what I was saying.

11 Nov 2016 23:54:09
Fehr and a 3rd?

14 Nov 2016 05:35:49
Why would blues take trash back. I could see a pick, but not taking cap back in any way.

05 Nov 2016 21:00:47
PIT: Matta, Kunitz (Cap Dump)
WPG: Trouba, Dano, Burmistrov.

05 Nov 2016 21:53:32
Jets add.

05 Nov 2016 22:09:43
No one adds. Both teams say no.

06 Nov 2016 19:36:57
Both teams add BIG time.

07 Nov 2016 05:22:45
Boris is bang on as usual. Jets add, maybe Laine?

08 Nov 2016 06:01:16
Jets add Laine and Myers but they can keep crybaby Trouba.

05 Nov 2016 20:49:11
Pens- Daley, Kuntiz, Pouliot

Jets-trouda,3rd

Kunitz is a cap dump so the pens can sign Trouda

Thoughts?

04 Nov 2016 16:00:59
WPG: Trouba, Burmistrov
PIT: Matta, Bonino.

04 Nov 2016 22:57:26
Burmistrov is on the outs. Jets would have to add.

02 Nov 2016 20:43:12
Time to do my best BJ impression.

Senators have acquired goalie Mike Condon from the Penguins for a 2017 5th round pick.

04 Nov 2016 02:12:16
people! stop! posting! rubbish! trades!

19 Oct 2016 18:13:37
Ott-Craig Anderson (10% retained) 3rd

LA-Tanner Pearson


Ott- Cody Ceci, Curtis Lazar, Tanner Pearson

Pit-Marc Andre Fleury, Trevor Daley, Oskar Sundqvist,3rd

I'm not to sure on the value of Ceci so it might be overpayment from the pens but I thought I would try it out.

Thoughts? What would make it move even?

19 Oct 2016 18:23:43
Easy no from OTT on the 2nd one.

19 Oct 2016 18:58:07
Easy No from Ottawa on both. Ottawa needs scoring but not nearly as bad as LA needs goaltending. And losing Ceci would decimate Ottawa's right hand defense depth, as they have literally no one of value after him (I don't see Wideman as a viable NHL defenceman)

19 Oct 2016 19:42:45
NO FROM LA.

19 Oct 2016 19:50:15
LA isn't trading Pearson for Anderson lol.

19 Oct 2016 23:50:46
Lol you think Ottawa wouldn't take Pearson holy man.

20 Oct 2016 00:30:13
Anderson>>>>>Fleury. Enough said.

20 Oct 2016 13:09:43
I mean, I'm an Ottawa fan but you are horribly mistaken seabass2011.

Fleury is younger by like 4 years and consistently performs better, at least during the season.

20 Oct 2016 15:19:14
"at least during the season" 'Nuff said. DOn't need another playoff under performer. Fleury would be a liability.

14 Oct 2016 19:25:04
PIT: Justin Shultz, Chris Kunitz, 1st
WPG: Jacob Trouba

or

MTL: Noah Juulsen, Nathan Beaulieau, David Deharnhias
WPG: Jacob Trouba.

14 Oct 2016 20:11:16
The first trade is just terrible, Winnipeg doesn't need a Top 6 RD they need a top 4 LD, Chris Kunitz should soon be considered dead weight at some point in the near future and A first won't cut it. The Montreal trade is a little better, I say add a 1st with the top 4 LD and RD prospect and its close.

14 Oct 2016 20:20:55
Those are swful.

14 Oct 2016 20:21:04
Awful.

15 Oct 2016 00:32:14
dont give him hope at being awful they was horrendez.

15 Oct 2016 01:15:52
Big NO from Habs,
Beaulieu > Troubeau.

15 Oct 2016 07:43:22
the habs trade is closer. but that isn't really saying much.

18 Oct 2016 20:53:27
Habs pass, maybe Emelin and Pateryn and 5th rounder for Trouba.

13 Oct 2016 21:15:39
pit- Marc Andre Fleury, Trevor Daley

Ana-Hampus Lindholm

I know the Ducks don't really need Fleury but they can send Jonathan Bernier to the AHL and have Fleury and Gibson as their one two punch in net and Daley can replace Lindholm on D.

Trading Fleury the pens can protect Murray and by trading Daley they clear up cap space to to sign Lindholm.

Pitt- Chirs Kunitz

Col-Blake Comeau

The pens will clear up cap space plus Comeau played pretty well with Malkin

Thoughts?

13 Oct 2016 21:29:13
are you kidding me with the first trade?

13 Oct 2016 22:19:44
You forgot to mention Anaheim loses Fleury to the expansion draft and Daley to UFA and Pittsburghs left with a budding #1 D man at age 22.

14 Oct 2016 04:48:30
Wow that first trade was bad.

14 Oct 2016 06:48:08
that trade makes my trades look good, keep it up.

15 Oct 2016 01:22:20
that trade won't happen and Vegas can't take Fleury in the expansion draft 'cause he has a NMC and has to be 'protected' by Pens.

12 Oct 2016 20:22:14
This may just be my opinion but I don't think Cam Talbot should be the Oilers goalie going forward. There are several goalies better than him on the trade block because of the expansion draft.

Should they re-consider having Talbot going forward, here are a few possiblle trade options:

#1: EDM-TB

Oilers get: Ben Bishop

Lightning get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart, David Musil, Tyler Vesel

Why for TBL: If they lose Talbot in the expansion draft, they get some highly talented prospects to make up for it (not that Talbot for Bishop strait up would happen)

#2: EDM-PIT

Oilers Get: Marc-Andre Fleury

Penguins get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart, Ziyat Paygin

Why for PIT: Same thing with Tampa. Yes Fleury is worth less than Bishop. When Jarry is ready to come up, they just trade Talbot for some prospects.

#3: EDM-DET:

Oilers Get: Jimmy Howard

Red Wings get: Cam Talbot, Griffin Reinhart

Why for DET: Same situation as Tampa. I think the Red Wings would get greety and ask for more but that would just be unfair. Do I think Howard is the right choice, NO, but does it work if they have to do it, I guess so.

#4: EDM-OTT

Oilers get: Andrew Hammond

Senators get: Cam Talbot, Ryan-Nugent Hopkins

I don't think this happens because RNH is 100% overrated with lots of down years since coming to the NHL. Will a team be dumb enough to take him, yes.

Some other goalies that may be avalible: Mike Smith, Semyon Varlamov. I think the price will be too high though. I think the Yakupov trade ruined some of these chances because teams would be dumb to take an overrated player like him too. Then you get a goalie for this package: RNH, Yakupov, Talbot.

12 Oct 2016 20:42:03
First and second trades aren't very bad, third trade is just stupid for the Oilers, Howards even if not worse than Talbot. Fourth trade is god awful. yes, there are people who way overvalue him, but this is just terrible. Talbot altogether is more proven than Hammond, who had a lucky break in the season he went 22-1-2 or some nonsense like that. Nuge is a proven 50 point guy, and the way your saying it, you make him sound like a cap dump, which he isn't.

12 Oct 2016 20:48:12
No from TB and PIT and an easy no from EDM on the last two. Nuge and Talbot for Hammond, really?

12 Oct 2016 20:48:18
Lol they got worse as you went along, I would make a comment about the trades but not worth my time. Troll.

12 Oct 2016 20:51:23
Talbot and Nuge for Hammond? Uh oh.

12 Oct 2016 20:59:24
Are you serious? I'm no oilers fan, but RNH and talbot for Hammond?!?! He's a flash in the pan, 30 year old back up. You are delusional if you're not sitting at home laughing at the fact that people are even responding to this. Sens couldn't get talbot for Hammond and a pick less than a first. And you think a really good top 6 forward needed to be included?

12 Oct 2016 21:00:10
Yea, I'd rather keep Talbot instead of Jimmy Howard's 6 mill contract, yet can Talbot played better than him last season and you want them to add. The Andrew Hammond one is just pure trash, really. Hammond is a shaky backup, Talbot played better than him with more games, and even in the AHL last year Hammond posted a 4.05 GAA, you sir are Delusional, and you want them To add Nuge!? Lol none of these trades make sense. I like your comment about teams being dumb enough to take Nuge, either you don't know anything about hockey or you just hate the Oilers, which one is it?

12 Oct 2016 21:15:44
Doubt any of those teams want a 4.1mil goalie in a trade, a cheap young prospect maybe. Think they'd want skaters. I could be wrong, but with Talbot, doesn't save them much cap just to lose him in the expansion draft maybe. Ottawa trade doesn't even make sense. Talbot had a .917 save % last season so don't think he's oilers problem. Hammond was .914.fleury was .921 and bishop was .926 but played on much better teams.

12 Oct 2016 21:49:22
Lol that ottawa one is so bad for oilers that trades as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop.

13 Oct 2016 00:34:11
If it was that easy to get Bishop he would have been traded a long time ago lol.
I don't know why you don't think Talbot should be the Oilers goalie, it's your opinion but I'd like to disagree to an extent. Talbot is not the Oilers problem, and he did very well on a very weak team. You could say he is quite underrated as he's the Oilers goalie, but for sure if Bishop was an option I'm sure any team would try and get him for that price.
Also, Oilers have two very good young goalies in their system in Brossiot and Ellis. LB last year had flashes but ultimately struggled in his starts for the Oilers but every year he has progressed and he looks to have a very bright future in the organiation. And Ellis is fresh from College and he also looks like he could have a nice career.

13 Oct 2016 02:19:29
Brossoit had like a 9.40 save percentage in the pre season I think and he's been on the AHL all star team for the past couple seasons I think. At 23 he's on the 2nd tier of those young promising goalies I'd say. So yeah Oil are decently set in net. Always room for improvement but not really a weak spot.

13 Oct 2016 02:52:04
Andrew Hammond? he's not a No. 1, more of a flash in the pan mediocre backup.

13 Oct 2016 05:31:29
Or maybe we give it a couple months and see how Talbot performs? Little early to toss him aside, isn't it?

13 Oct 2016 06:43:24
Chirp idk if you think I or ebs meant that LB will play for the Oilers this year, but Talbot will for sure be the starter this year and the next. I think next year LB will be the fullltime backup until Talbot loses the job to him.

13 Oct 2016 06:46:57
first 2 are close enough. maybe tampa adds a pick or something. pittsburgh i think is closest, but with them threatening to repeat i don't think they'd give up fleury. detroit adds and the ottawa trade may be fair straight up talbot for hammond. maybe add a 1st from ottawa and a prospect if you insist on RNH being in the trade.

maybe
Hammond, Ceci, 2nd for RNH and talbot
or
anderson, 2nd for rnh and talbot.

13 Oct 2016 06:58:46
@McJesus
My reply was intended for the original post. Before game one of a new season with an adjusted team in front of him (D has been drastically reworked and I think it could make a big difference), someone already doubts Talbot? I'm not saying he's going to be a legit star, but I'm not saying he's going to be a sieve either. It's obviously WAAAY too early to tell. Talbot was good, not great, tonight, but he was definitely better than Elliott tonight who I'd say everyone here would grant is a legit #1G in this league and has a strong D core in front of him. So, IMO, this is all just a silly conversation. Even with the win, the Oilers need some adjustment time (PP was horrid) . That said, it's far too early for overhauls.

13 Oct 2016 14:47:55
Oh yeah for sure.

13 Oct 2016 17:50:33
You would Kaner 🙄.

02 Oct 2016 23:30:37
Coyotes have more than enough prospects maybe move some out for a steady goalie?

ARI: Mike Smith (25% Retained), Kyle Wood, Brenden Perlini, 2nd
PIT: Marc Andre Fleury

Considering they wanted bennett and a 1st from calgary for fleury. I think it would be fair in their eyes, but not in my eyes.

03 Oct 2016 17:10:43
Smith is to expensive for Pittsburgh even at 25% values there tho.

03 Oct 2016 21:06:03
Maybe at 50% retained) or not even smith at all

30 Sep 2016 17:51:22
Penguins- 2nd (2017)

Oilers- Yakupov

Penguins- Daley,2nd (2018) 3rd (2017)

Predators- Ellis.

30 Sep 2016 18:15:02
Article out of Edmonton is they are willing to move on from yak for little or no return. A second is too high.

30 Sep 2016 19:36:18
Unless Pulj and Versteeg both perform better than yak out of camp, they aren't going to be in a rush to ditch him

And no from Nash. You can't break up their top four with that.

30 Sep 2016 19:51:16
Like what article did you see that from lol.

30 Sep 2016 19:53:59
Ryan rishaug as reported in the Edmonton Journal.

30 Sep 2016 20:05:01
But, that's not as accurate as your opinion/ sources I'm sure.

30 Sep 2016 20:05:01
But, that's not as accurate as your opinion/ sources I'm sure.

30 Sep 2016 21:25:53
No way Preds do that.

30 Sep 2016 22:18:27
It's not. Your crazy to think they couldn't give Yak away.

01 Oct 2016 00:43:02
Yeah for sure man and no because that's a lie and you exaggerated your entire story about that so badly just so you sound like a big boy. Everyone knows you're a delusional as it gets when it comes to the Oilers. If you're going to try and say something then let it be honest.

01 Oct 2016 04:08:00
@McJ and Ebs
Honestly don't even bother replying to Borje when it comes to him and the oilers. He always has and always will just be trying to get a reaction from the Oilers fan base.

01 Oct 2016 04:08:00
@McJ and Ebs
Honestly don't even bother replying to Borje when it comes to him and the oilers. He always has and always will just be trying to get a reaction from the Oilers fan base.

25 Sep 2016 07:32:35
Winnipeg Jets:
- Jacob Trouba (RHD)
Pittsburgh Penguins:
- Olli Maatta (LHD)
- 2018 second round pick

Winnipeg gets a young LHD who is also finnish so he and laine could get along really good. And they get a 2nd round pick. Pittsburgh gets a steady right hand shot defencemen. But will need to make room so in that case this is just a value wise proposal.

25 Sep 2016 10:04:21
You think the Pens are going to give a young, really good value contract and a second in exchange for Trouba, Pens aren't a budget team, Trouba will be looking for at least 6 mill on his new contract, Maatta has 4 mill for the next 6 years.

25 Sep 2016 10:22:23
Pens are a budget team** mb.

25 Sep 2016 12:31:13
Yah no from Pits.

23 Sep 2016 23:03:57
If Malkin was every traded it would be to the Western Conference. I seen an article a couple days ago, not saying it would ever happen but I wanna see how good this is VALUE WISE.

Calgary:
- Sam Bennett
- Dougie Hamilton
- Oliver Kylington
- (2017) 1st round pick
Pittsburgh:
- Evgeni Malkin

Imagine not using Monahan as the 2nd Center and putting Monahan, Gaudreau and Malkin together.

23 Sep 2016 23:12:06
Way to much for Calgary to give up. They lose their future for one player. With the loss of Hamilton and Bennet they are not playoff contenders even with Malkin.

23 Sep 2016 23:13:06
Huge no from Calgary.

23 Sep 2016 23:24:46
Way to much.

23 Sep 2016 23:39:19
Lol yeah imagine it.

23 Sep 2016 23:49:35
They wanted a 1st round a Bennett for fleury that's why I thought adding more would be in their range

24 Sep 2016 00:20:47
JohnnyMony there is a reason that Fleury is not in Calgary and the price you just described is why. Way to much for Calgary to give up for Fleury.

24 Sep 2016 01:00:40
Would rather have the CGY package

23 Sep 2016 17:46:30
pittsburgh: malkin, Kunitz
Boston: Krejci, Marchand.

Thoughts?

23 Sep 2016 18:35:53
they have Bergeron. nobody really wants kunitz.

23 Sep 2016 18:41:25
Don't see why Boston does this. They need a rebuild so they will want picks and prospects not Kunitz. Also they have Bergeron and don't need Malkin.

23 Sep 2016 19:49:43
That's so weird picturing Malkin on Boston wow, also no from Boston.

23 Sep 2016 21:21:39
Am I the only one that thinks this is a no from pits? Malkin is a top 10 player in the NHL when he's not injured.

23 Sep 2016 22:58:34
@VB

No argument that he is a good player.

The argument is his salary, also his and Kunitz's.

23 Sep 2016 23:02:51
Who cares if Boston has Bergeron, They could still use and want Malkin. Pitts has Crosby and still
Has Malkin. Teams love two unreal centers.
But anyways, Ya Boston doesn't want or need Kunitz.

There is however question that Marchand may want to go play woth Crosby and sign with Pitts after this season. Being great buddy's with Crosby and Pitts will lose the money of Fluery and Kunitz so they would be able to afford him. Something to keep and eye on.

 
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