05 Feb 2023 19:43:20
SJ: Timo Meier (signed to 8x8.5)

Cal: Andrew Mangiapane
Matt Coronato
2023 1st rd pick


Overpay from Flames, imo, but will be nec to outbid rival gms.
SJ gets quality prospect, futures, and wing depth.
Cal gets top six winger

Cal cap issues dealt with next year.
Thoughts?


1.) 06 Feb 2023
05 Feb 2023 22:34:41
Flames underpayment. Meier will fetch more than that.


2.) 06 Feb 2023
05 Feb 2023 23:36:34
way too much from CGY


3.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 16:31:42
Was using Horvat as comparable.

Always thought Josh Anderson would be great for CGY, but get sooo tired of Habs “We aren’t trading Anderson. Maybe we should sign Monahan. We aren’t sure if we’re trading Edmundson…..”
They aren’t fooling anyone. Everyone knows Habs are rebuilding, with generational talent available next draft. Then again, maybe Hughes thinks he has better shot at Bedard if he keeps these guys.


4.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 16:53:08
It makes zero sense for the Habs to trade Anderson unless someone blows them away with an offer. Everyone knows that.

I think it's funny that you're "sooo tired" of the Habs not trading with your team. I don't think they're trying to "fool" you or anyone else. I think it's probably more like they'll make moves that make sense for them, like any other NHL team.

With this in mind try not to take it so hard that the Habs aren't giving you what you want. There is no other way to take it.


5.) 06 Feb 2023
06 Feb 2023 21:01:32
You misunderstand, buddy.
I’m not tired of the Habs not trading with the Flames. They’ve actually made a few trades lately and I’m quite satisfied with the results. Been good for both teams.
It’s just that some teams and their media try too hard to inflate the value of their players. Sure, Anderson is a power forward, but of the average 30 points per year type. He will be 29 soon, has an injury history and is signed for four more years. Players like that generally trend down at this point. Hardly fits with a rebuilding team’s mo. Everybody know’s that.
We aren’t talking about someone that consistently scores 40 goals and has done anything in the playoffs.
But, we’ll see, things go crazy at the deadline….


6.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 00:20:28
Big overpayment by flames, meier and mangiapane both 26, both
have career high 35 goals. Meier is the better player but come on, adding one of the top prospects in hockey and a first, then have to way overpay a 30 goal guy 8.5x8. no thank you.


7.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 01:14:03
I think it’s a slight overpay. Mangiapane doesn’t make sense for the Sharks IMO. But shoots you definitely cherry picked that goal stat. Meier is 20+ points a season better and probably 35+ this season.


8.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 02:31:00
Points taken, Shoots. You’re right, it is a big price to pay, but typical at deadline.

Don’t get me wrong, I love Mangiapane’s motor and hockey sense.
But Meier is bigger, faster, and shouldn’t be as easily neutralized in the playoffs.
Pelletier looks like he could slide into Mangiapane’s spot. Also, maybe it’s paranoia, but I’m concerned with Coronato pulling an Adam Fox.

As I said earlier, Anderson would be nice plan b, if price isn’t outrageous. I think Habs are trading him for sure. If they don’t take what they can get for him soon, they run big risk of getting less for him in the future.


9.) 07 Feb 2023
07 Feb 2023 03:28:05
Ya, burner, I agree about Coronato, they may lose him especially if Sutter is still coach when time comes but still can't afford to resign him unless they trade a guy they just signed. Ebs. mangiapane has never played on the 1st line in his career, meier I said is better but give mangiapane meiers icetime and mangiapane probably more points but less overall game. Still huge overpayment.