10 Jul 2017 21:49:16
Giroux is still a good, not elite, 1C but his age does not fit with where the Flyers are as a team. With his NMC, he needs to go to a team that lacks a legit 1C, fancies itself a true contender, can or easily could make moves to take the cap hit, and to where Giroux would accept a trade. That leaves:

Ottawa: Giroux ($8.275 until 2022
Philadelphia: Brassard ($5.0 until 2019), 2018 1st + 3rd, 2019 2nd

Ottawa made the ECF and Giroux could put push them further in the playoffs. Brassard and Giroux are the same age.

Montreal: Giroux
Philadelphia: Plekanec ($6.0 until 2018), 2018 1st, 2018 2nd (CHI), 2019 2nd

Montreal definitely thinks of themselves as true contenders, committing themselves to Price etc. Radulov didn't resign and the Habs need a player to play with Pacioretty, Drouin etc.

1.) 11 Jul 2017
11 Jul 2017 00:51:42
Why isn't he elite?

2.) 11 Jul 2017
11 Jul 2017 00:56:49
Personally think there are only a handful of players in the elite catagory. McDavid, Crosby, Karlsson, Price, Kane. he's a tier down from those guys IMO.

3.) 11 Jul 2017
11 Jul 2017 02:10:16
McJesus: Giroux isn't elite because his production doesn't support it. As a Flyers fan, I would love to say that he is but reality doesn't bear that out. Injuries or not, he's a very good player, but certainly not elite.

I posted these trades because I see a window for trading Giroux to two teams that could use seriously him and that he could realistically play for. I'm suggesting Hextall shoulds 'Schenn' Giroux, aka trade a better player for a worse player with a shorter contract plus valuable picks.

4.) 11 Jul 2017
11 Jul 2017 02:57:29
Okay if that's how you categorize it I definitely agree with that.
But imo I think there are superstars (Crosby mcdavid) and then elite players (backstrom Giroux) but I agree with that then.

5.) 11 Jul 2017
11 Jul 2017 14:03:51
He's definitely fallen off but I kinda see it like mcjesus. Those other guys are far beyond elite. Elite puts you in the top 50 or so in the league, best player or 2 on each team (obviously some teams have none and some have 4) but those other guys are above elite. They're the top 3-5 world wide. I get the purpose of the trade though, makes sense. If habs can't land Tavares via trade or UFA next summer they may have to visit something like this.

6.) 12 Jul 2017
12 Jul 2017 01:40:13
Montreal adds a lot.

7.) 12 Jul 2017
12 Jul 2017 01:47:00
IMO there is Generational talent ( McDavid, Lindstrom and Price ) then Franchise ( Towes, Doughty and Holtby ) then Elite ( Duchene, Faulk and Brobovsky )

8.) 13 Jul 2017
13 Jul 2017 21:40:00
So you think brassard + 3rd is worth plekanec + 2nd ?

9.) 15 Jul 2017
15 Jul 2017 12:01:08
@ McJesus Christ

If you need to ask why Giroux isn't elite, You need to watch more games. He hasn't been elite, except in the flyer media, for a couple years now. He's a good player but SURELY not elite.