NHL rumours 3

13 May 2024 18:22:31
Toronto and Nashville big trade.

TOR - Saros and Zucker

NASH - Marner

13 May 2024 22:01:41
Zucker is a UFA.

14 May 2024 06:49:42
Preds desperately need an elite winger like Marner, Samsonov and Woll are pretty good so I think trading Marner for a right handed defensemen should be #1 priority instead of a goaltender.

13 May 2024 16:22:16
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano
LCarlsson
Terry
2nd Round Pick 2024 (Boston's Pick)

Toronto Trades
Marner*
Jarnkrok
Liljegren
7th Round Pick 2024


*Marner would have to waive his NTC, and Anaheim would want a sign and trade in this proposal.



This would be a huge trade near or on Draft weekend that would help both teams imo.



Thoughts ?

13 May 2024 17:41:26
Your not getting Leo Carlsson.

14 May 2024 07:31:55
So basically marner for all Anaheim s best players plus a 2nd round? Liljegren a rfa that is a hope, jarnkrok sucks. 7th is a lottery ticket. Carlsson not getting traded .

13 May 2024 07:27:45
Chicago: reichel, 2nd overall, roos Toronto: marner, liljegren

13 May 2024 13:11:00
Chicago isn't doing that.

13 May 2024 07:26:16
Chicago fan but how about they trade down . Chicago 2nd overall, Lukas reichel, chi 2nd rd, .. if san jose wants the defenseman they'd be fine.

13 May 2024 07:07:48
Toronto: marner, liljegren, webber. Chicago: Jones, reichel, latest 2024 2nd

12 May 2024 20:01:36
Anaheim Trades
LCarlsson
Terry

Toronto Trades
Marner*


*Not only would Marner have to waive his NTC but in this situation the only way The Ducks imo would agree would be a sign and trade proposal.


If you know hockey and The NHL you understand why both clubs would make a proposal like this.



Thoughts ?

12 May 2024 21:33:37
Anaheim says no. They love both players and I would pretty much assume them as untouchables.

Zegras seems to be the least favourite of their star players.

13 May 2024 12:20:43
Yah I think the Ducks are pretty high on both of them. I think we'll see Zegras gone this summer or even at the draft to free up cap space for some signings and add a draft pick or two. They are pretty deep at center even without him.

I could see Marner waiving to go there, but I'm not sure the Ducks are willing to part with guys that the Leafs would want necessarily.

14 May 2024 06:50:59
Carlsson is an untouchable and fits their core better, if they trade for Marner then Carlsson is definitely off the table.

12 May 2024 14:23:51
Anaheim Trades
Zegras
Terry
2nd Round Pick 2024 (Boston's Pick)

Toronto Trades
Marner*


*Not only would Marner have to waive his NTC, but this imo would have to be also a sign and trade proposal so Anaheim knows Marner isn't walking after next season.


2 teams in different positions that can help each other, Toronto IF they trade one of their core 4 Marner makes the most sense, Leafs get 2 young good players plus a 2nd Rounder as well.
Ducks are pretty deep at Centre so trading Zegras is possible in their situation and he was in the rumour mill this past season, Terry is replaced with Marner and that's a huge upgrade for Anaheim.



Thoughts ?

11 May 2024 23:10:05
What would it take to get the second overall pick from Chicago to Montreal?

Hearing Demidov is going to likely go second overall.

Seeing as Chicago needs some Dmen for their rebuild would there be a chance that a trade could materialize?

Chicago gets
5th overall
Harris
Kovecevich

Montreal gets
2nd overall.

12 May 2024 02:17:34
It would surely take more than that.

12 May 2024 13:17:09
You’d need to give up Roy or Malioux or maybe something like winnipegs 1st and a 2nd to move up from 5.

13 May 2024 06:34:35
Probably 5th plus futures like next years 1st or top prospect. Demidov can play with Bedard like no other prospect. They already have a pretty good de prospects. Del mastro, Allen, korchinski already in nhl. Plus more, they're getting the best available player. If they can trade down, fine but it'll cost alot.

13 May 2024 12:34:08
Chicago has some fairly good Dman prospects coming up. If I'm them I'm taking Demidov to pair with Bedard. If Habs want him that bad then they are going to pay for him. 5th overall, one of Roy or Mallioux, a 1st next year, and maybe another pick. Chicago has all the control and leverage in a deal for 2nd overall; so if someone wants it that bad they are going to overpay for it.

14 May 2024 06:53:09
I don’t think a 6th and 7th defensemen on a strong team are gonna cut it. Gonna probably have to part with Winnipeg’s 1st.

16 May 2024 00:51:46
think habs will have demidov at 5

1st sj: celebriny (no brainer)
2nd chi : levshunov ( Chicago will also trade Seth jones to Toronto for marner)
3rd Ana:silayev (they need dmen)
4th clb: lindstrom( they’ll opt for a center to pair with Fantilli )
5th mtl : demidov (thank you)

11 May 2024 03:33:35
I made a proposal earlier but then started thinking.

Looking at a three way Canadian trade.

Leafs and Vancouver are win now with Toronto in a slight retool (wouldn’t even call it that) and Montreal is rebuilding.

Without getting into the major salary constraints let’s get to it:

First part:

Toronto gets:
Hronek
Joshua

Vancouver gets:
Marner

Now someone would probably have to add and obviously there would be a sign and trade I believe but I think if Marner is going anywhere he’s going to a slightly more ‘electrifying’ market

Toronto gets their top right hand Dman and the third line gritty center in Joshua.

Second part:

Montreal gets:
Tavares (no retention)
Toronto 2024 1st
One of mitten/ cowen

Toronto receives:
Savard (50% retained)

This is where Toronto pays for a rugged right hand Dman with experience and they get 11 million in cap space to allow for the Hronek signing. The 2024 1st is likely not a huge deal for Toronto but with no retention for Tavares, I think you got to throw in a decent prospect.

Third part:

Vancouver gets:
Matheson (50% retained)
Dvorak

Montreal gets:
Lekkerimaki

If Vancouver is an absolute no go with him then

2025 1st in protected
2026 conditional

Condition - if Vancouver wins the cup in 2024/ 2025 the 2026 is an unprotected 1st otherwise it becomes a 2025 2nd


Understanding Matheson is a lefty, he’s still super talented and Dvorak could slot into the third line

Again there’s going to be a ton of tweaks but kind of the just of it.

11 May 2024 11:48:18
This is just rediculous. Nothing even close to the actual value of the Leafs player.

11 May 2024 12:20:27
Marner an Tavares have 0 value unless you work out a sign a trade in my eyes. Would Tavares work on a third line? Probably. But not at 11 mil. I don’t even think at 5.5.

This is all based on Marner waiving his no move. If he doesn’t then nothing works. Same with Tavares. If he does, he likely won’t be accepting anything to a bottom feeder.

11 May 2024 12:55:38
doesn't fit with Montreal rebuild. aging and size if contract eliminates Tavares immediately, no matter what prospects you add.

12 May 2024 13:19:41
Tavares has 1 year left Lmao just ridiculous he won’t be moved he’ll ride out the contract for 1 year then sign a league minimum like Spezza. He’s also still a great player.

11 May 2024 03:18:23
Toronto receives:

Hronek
Joshua

Vancouver receives

Marner

All based on NMC being waived and I think too having a sign and trade in place

Hronek priced himself out of Vancouver as did Joshua but if they can move mariners 10.9 and then they will get rid of brodies 4.9 I think it is could make it work maybe?

09 May 2024 21:56:06
TOR - Mitch Marner
CGY - Rasmus Andersson, Andrew Mangiapane and 2026 2nd

I seriously doubt Marner would waive to Calgary but how is the trade value and positional wise?


Matthew Knies - Auston Matthews - William Nylander
Tyler Bertuzzi - John Tavares - Max Domi
Andrew Mangiapane - Calle Jarnkrok - Nicholas Robertson
Connor Dewar - David Kampf - Bobby McMann

Morgan Rielly - Rasmus Andersson
Jake McCabe - Timothy Liljegren
Simon Benoit - Ilya Lybushkin

09 May 2024 23:22:42
Would you sub Mangipane with anyone else?

09 May 2024 23:39:35
@Vbb I was originally gonna add Andersson, Coleman and remove the draft pick but I wasn’t sure.

10 May 2024 12:32:27
Honestly would probably do Coleman instead of Mangiapane in deal.

17 May 2024 04:13:39
CGY can replace Mangiapane with younger prospects like Pelletier. So no problem there, imo. But CGY shouldn’t trade Ras. He’s had a bad year but we don’t have anyone that can replace him anytime soon.