13 Dec 2024 16:40:34
Detroit Trades
PKane*
Toronto Trades
Kampf
NRobertson
2nd Round Pick 2025 (FLAs Pick)
*Detroit retains 50% of PKane's expiring contract.
Thoughts ?
1.) 13 Dec 2024
13 Dec 2024 18:39:03
Detroit can do better easily.
2.) 13 Dec 2024
13 Dec 2024 19:28:42
memarcusjoe
Detroit can do easily better?
Are you sure about that, this isn't PKane from even a few years ago.
live in his value today not from the past.
3.) 13 Dec 2024
13 Dec 2024 21:04:08
Pinball, you're offering a 2nd to Detroit for taking Kampf and are offering a throw away AHL'er like Robertson and expect retention as well.
They actually come out worse because they get nothing for Kane, throw away $2.0 mil and are stuck with Kampf as a cap dump for 2 more years.
So, yes at $2.0 mil they can do better than paying someone to make Kane go away. They'd get something positive out of it.
4.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 01:23:24
Robertson has 2 goals in 23 NHL games. Kampf has 3 NHL assists in 18 NHL games. Kane has more points than Robertson and Kampf combined.
The irony of saying "live in his trade value today not from the past" when offering 2 players worth less than Kane in return for Kane at a 50% discount is hilarious.
You're only throwing Kampf in because without him the Leafs would be over the cap. So if he's a salary dump then thanks for the 2nd round pick (55th-64th overall) as compensation.
So now you need to add value to this trade for taking the better player in the deal, and for the salary
retention.
But Toronto has nothing on the trade block of any value to a team like the Red Wings. That's why Detroit can easily do better.
5.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 01:23:55
Everything on the Leafs trade block in exchange for a forward.
Rinse and repeat again tomorrow Pinball.
6.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 13:58:12
Detroit has zero interest in Kampf or Robertson, and would want additional sweeteners to take these 2 stiffs off of Torontos hands.
7.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 14:13:24
memarcusjoe and DrwDave
Did Chicago come out ahead a few years ago trading PKane and using Arizona as a 3rd team for a huge retention?
Chicago got a 2nd Rounder, a 4th Rounder a career AHL Defenceman plus another Defenceman that has only played for Sweden, in exchange NYRangers got PKane, another Defenceman that will never play in The NHL and a 5th Rounder, and PKane was a point a game player back then.
How is my proposal really that much different as I am sending NHL Players back to Detroit with NRobertson having potential and Kampf's only crime is he is probably a million more than he should be getting?
8.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 15:16:44
Detroit says no.
9.) 14 Dec 2024
14 Dec 2024 16:18:09
The difference pinball is that then Kane would ONLY go to New York, Chicago was rewarding him for years of being a good soldier and Chicago didn't take back a cap dump.
10.) 15 Dec 2024
15 Dec 2024 04:52:10
Another difference is that Kampf has no trade value, the 2nd round pick you're offering would have to be attached to Kampf even if you were just trying to shop Kampf without Robertson.
The Red Wings biggest need is goal scoring from more than just their first line. Robertson isn't going to help solve that with 3 goals in 23 games. Whatever trade value he had as an RFA last summer is gone.
So if Patrick Kane at 50% off is what you think the Leafs need, it's going to take more assets than just a late 2nd round pick attached to an LTIR player and a fringe NHLer projected to score 6 goals by end of season.
11.) 16 Dec 2024
16 Dec 2024 14:27:32
There's as much chance that Stevie Y does this deal as there were 5 actual site visitors not named "Pinball" that upvoted this ridiculously one-sided trade.
Treliving will definitely get rid of Robertson & Kampf someday, but it won't be any of these "leave your garbage on someone's lawn" trades that get offered up regularly by Pinball.