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06 Dec 2024 14:25:40
Buffalo Trades
Tuch
7th Round Pick 2025 (WSHs Pick)
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Benning (AHL)
Hildeby (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026
Treliving is looking for that one trade before or at the deadline for this years playoffs, many believe it's for a Centre but adding Tuch to RWing will also help huge and what the price tag will be for a Centre imo Tuch would be a good target and help just as much, Kampf and Jarnkrok if one or both are playing before the end of the season will have to be traded away for cap reasons also.
Sabres need to do something and Tuch is probably their best trade chip, NRobertson, Hildeby and The 1st Rounder are why they would pull something like this imo.
Benning is a depth Defenceman that can still play in The NHL gives them more stability on the backend for this season.
Thoughts ?
1.) 06 Dec 2024 18:07:11
3 ahl players and a first for Tuch…………hangs up phone.
2.) 07 Dec 2024 20:09:03
UPL and Levi already in the net, they have no use for goaltending depth.
Robertson has 2 NHL goals this year so far.
That 1st round pick is likely to be somewhere in the 26th-32nd overall range, which is worth using as a trade chip but there has to be more added to it than just AHL players.
Don't know anything about Benning, but should I? I'll give you credit, at least it's not Holmberg or Jarnkrok or Kampf for once.
3.) 07 Dec 2024 20:09:59
Everything on the Leafs trade block in exchange for a forward.
Rinse and repeat again tomorrow.
4.) 08 Dec 2024 13:27:36
- puts leafs over the cap.
-Tuch is a first line RW, so would Tuch theoretically be taking Marner or Nylander’s spot?
- Robertson can’t make the leaf lineup, so why are other teams going to want him, or the the handful of others that you recycle daily in these one-sided trade proposals?
- Tuch is the kind of player that every team would love in their playoff roster. If he was available he’d draw better offers than this yard sale.
5.) 09 Dec 2024 16:54:27
Robertson isn't moving the needle on a trade at all anymore. The game for me that solidified that was against Vegas when he had the puck and essentially had Petro beat to get out of our zone. Petro turned and with one hand took the puck off od Robertson from a stand still position.
Robertson has a wicked shot, but lacks the foot speed to break away and use it on teams. He works hard, but he's still getting knocked off the puck 90% of the time.
It is what it is at this point, but he's not going to be a piece most teams want and he definitely won't be a piece included for a player like Tuch. Would love to add him, but the conversation for him likely starts with Cowan and a 1st and goes from there.
6.) 10 Dec 2024 16:08:52
@MG69 IF Tuch was on the block which the home town boy is not, Cowan and a 1st would be a hard offer to beat.
7.) 10 Dec 2024 21:21:09
@vbbbvvbb definitely would be, but team like Buffalo may put more value on more draft capital which we don't have. Team could offer a lesser prospect and tag on more draft capital to make a competitive deal as well.
Imagine a line of:
Knies-Matthews-Tuch
Be a tough line to match up against, but it's a pipe dream at this point ?.
05 Dec 2024 13:29:20
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano*
RStrome*
Toronto Trades
Holmberg
NRobertson
Kampf (LTIR)
Hildeby (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025 (FLAs Pick)
*Ducks retain 50% of both Vatrano and RStrome's remaining contracts.
Anaheim in full rebuild will be unloading an upcoming UFA in Vatrano and a veteran in RStrome for 2 younger forwards, a good prospect Goaltender in Hildeby plus getting back a 2nd Rounder they traded away to Philly, all things that a rebuilding team would look to do, Kampf has to be part of this proposal for cap reasons.
Leafs improve the 3rd line adding Vatrano and RStrome which is a huge win for them, they aren't star players but players that playoff teams look for imo.
Thoughts ?
1.) 05 Dec 2024 15:06:32
Average Pinball post:
Everything on the Leafs trade block (which combined wouldnt even get a 1st round pick in return) in exchange for a forward (or 2) at 50% discounts.
2.) 05 Dec 2024 15:08:16
- This is super-duper one-sided.
- Vatrano is a pending UFA stud, and even though he's nowhere near his 37 and 22 goal pace of the past two years, he would command far more consideration than this.
- Robertson, Holmberg and Kampf have 3 goals between them, and with all the leafs' injuries, none have shown the ability to step up in the lineup.
- the 2nd helps compensate for the term & dollars you expect ANA to take on, but there's no building blocks here for a rebuilding team.
3.) 06 Dec 2024 00:33:43
This is a "here's all the garbage my team wants to dump, give me one or two of your good players for it" proposal. Then making it even more insulting by asking for free retention.
This is a new low even for pinball I think.
29 Nov 2024 14:41:12
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Minton
1st Round Pick 2026
Kampf will have to waive his NTC if Nashville isn't on his list, O'Reilly doesn't have a NTC or NMC.
Toronto has a window to add to their forward group and even though I like Minton a lot The Leafs will have to add him imo for The Preds to bite on trading O'Reilly.
Nashville in not a rebuild as much as a retool and this type of proposal helps with that in imo.
Thoughts ?
1.) 29 Nov 2024 18:22:40
Nashville has 3 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks in this year's draft to accelerate their retool. O'Reilly is part of their core to bring the team back to a contender, he's not likely on the trade block and if he is, with the talent already on the Predators roster I'd be willing to bet they'd rather do a "hockey trade" for a roster player to get them back on track instead of a prospect + future draft pick.
This trade only helps the Leafs and it only helps the Leafs because of current injuries. As much as you want to spend your time offering the whole trade block for 1 player, they don't need another forward.
2.) 29 Nov 2024 18:29:39
That's a YES from NSH - good one Pinball!
3.) 01 Dec 2024 04:06:46
Chickenfoot
I almost fell over seeing your response lol.
4.) 02 Dec 2024 00:47:45
PINBALL: it’s never personal, it’s always about whether it makes sense to me or not. This one to me makes sense, and kudos to you?.
24 Nov 2024 15:36:18
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
McCarron
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Holmberg
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026
Very similar to The O'Reilly trade The Leafs did with The Blues a few years back, no salary retaining in this proposal just a good old fashion trade.
Thoughts ?
1.) 24 Nov 2024 23:16:40
Even if orally is available for trade he has upped his value since that trade. Right now he seems to be playing as a high end 2c.
2.) 25 Nov 2024 01:24:35
Nashville declines. If they move O’Reilly they’ll do much better than this. They’ll get a nice package of a high-end prospect for their rebuild, a 1st and a 2nd.
This trade, predictably, is generous to the leafs and ignores what NSH would need in return to make such a trade work.
3.) 25 Nov 2024 12:32:19
Chickenfoot
Of course you dissected as O'Reilly being more than he is and The Leaf Players being less than their value.
Am I surprised by your response?
Absolutely not as this is your thing no matter what I post.
Cheers.
4.) 25 Nov 2024 16:34:24
@Chckenfoot so you’re telling me Malioux, protected 1st and 2nd would be a fair trade for O’Rielly in a vacuum?
If anyone offers them a “High end prospect”, 1st and 2nd then the Preds GM would drive him to the airport personally.
5.) 26 Nov 2024 03:51:42
Average pinball trade:
Everything the Leafs have on the trade block in exchange for a forward.
6.) 26 Nov 2024 10:21:55
- Pinball, why post one-sided, homer trades like this if you’re just going to whine? Embarrassing.
- People don’t have a bias against your team. Learn the lesson here: your trades are always inordinately heavily weighted towards your team, with little or no thought give as to what another team might need.
- IF O’Reilly were to move; as a Conn Smythe-winning center he’d be immensely valuable for a cup run if slotted correctly in a 2C situation. He’d bring a healthy return.
- a 1st is a given, but you didn’t include compensation for the cap dump that Kampf currently is.
- Robertson’s trade value has been covered. He’s not a trade “asset”. He’s an insignificant throw-in who will be lucky to get an NHL contract next year. (Is this news to anyone else? )
- Holmberg is 25 with just over a hundred NHL games. He is what he is, but he’s not a coveted trade asset.
Quantity doesn’t equal quality, and as Tom Hanks famously said, “there’s no crying in baseball! ” (Or a hockey trade forum. )
7.) 26 Nov 2024 15:57:21
Chickenfoot
As usual you're ? wrong.
Cheers.
8.) 26 Nov 2024 19:00:27
Justin Williams won a conn Smyth that doesn’t mean he’s worth all of that. O’Rielly is closer to Williams age than Bedard. O’Rielly we’ll be retired in 3 years he is nothing at this point besides a mediocre 3C who’s elite in the Dot. He has value but if Nashville is offered a 1st from any team they should take that and play their younger guys imo.
9.) 27 Nov 2024 04:30:43
VBB…. or whatever name you’re going by tonight…are you okay?
- Williams is 43, and in the Hall of Fame. O’Reilly is still playing. They’re 10 years apart…what are you talking about? Do you think the market values are the same in this season as a decade ago? ?
- not sure how Bedard got into this conversation…. or Williams for that matter. Or why you asked what I’m saying about a “Mailloux trade”, which I’ve never mentioned on this site. Not sure what your deal is, maybe it’s time to start a few more burner accounts on here? ?.
10.) 28 Nov 2024 03:43:55
If O’Reilly turns it around and has a decent season he might get a 1st but good chance it’s only a 2nd IMO.
21 Nov 2024 19:10:22
3 Team Trade Proposal.
Anaheim
Acquires NRobertson from The Leafs in exchange for Retains 50% of Granlund's expiring Contract
San Jose
Acquires Kampf and The Leafs 2026 1st Round Pick.
Toronto
Acquires Granlund from The Sharks.
Thoughts ?
1.) 21 Nov 2024 22:15:23
- SJ gets a 1st for taking on the Kampf deal. (This is proper compensation, kudos?)
- if I’m reading your post correctly, ANA gets Robertson, but no compensation for retaining 50% of the Granlund contract? (Leafs add a decent pick or ANA declines to be involved in helping the leafs with their salary cap issues. )
- SJ would accept the 1sr for the cost of taking on Kampf’s 3 years @ 2.4M/ season, but where is the trade asset for Granlund and his expiring contract?
You have the start of a fair trade, but additional assets would be required by ANA & SJ. It is incomplete as-is.
2.) 22 Nov 2024 01:08:01
Chickenfoot
Anaheim gets NRobertson for retaining 2.5 million of Granlund's expiring Contract.
3.) 22 Nov 2024 16:07:34
Pinball this trade only really benefits the Leafs. They have to give up a better player than Robertson but you would never include any player that a team would actually want in any of your always proLeaf trade proposals.
Still you're always entertaining.
4.) 23 Nov 2024 01:53:57
Robertson is a contract, not an asset. He’ll be lucky to play in the NHL next year. He is not compensation, he is not positive value. That’s why he’s in most of your trades.
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30 Aug 2024 12:56:57
This isn't a trade post.
I just wanted to say RIP for Johnny Gaudreau and prayers for his family after his tragic death.
Very sad day for everyone who loves the game of hockey.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 18:26:22
A horrible tragedy. RIP to the Gaudreau brothers, Johnny and Matthew.
14 Jun 2024 15:53:08
New Jersey Trades
Mercer
Nemec
10th Overall Pick 2024
2nd Round Pick 2025
Toronto Trades
Marner*
Liljegren
*Marner would have to both waive his NMC and do a sign and trade otherwise Marner and NJ say no.
IF Marner agrees to a trade and signing long term with NJ and The Leafs willing to make this bold move, it will definitely change things for both teams.
Mercer is no Marner but a solid Winger, Liljegren is no Nemec either and that's the improvement for Toronto, I see NJ pursuing Guentzel and should have just enough to sign him and have a full roster imo.
Thoughts ?
13 Jun 2024 15:35:37
Montreal Trades
Suzuki
Caufield
DSavard
5th Overall Pick 2024
57th Overall Pick 2024
Toronto Trades
Marner*
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026
*Marner would have to both waive his NTC and do a sign and trade.
Montreal wants Marner this should be the asking price if Marner agrees to going to Montreal.
Thoughts ?
1.) 13 Jun 2024 19:58:48
Not even sure why I am responding to this. bur Pinball, maybe this is why you get so much negative backlash on this site. This is horrible. I might be bias, but this is one of the more rediculous trades I've seen from you.
28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.
Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)
Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)
All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.
1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.
I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?
I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.
18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt
Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.
Thoughts ?
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01 Dec 2024 04:06:46
Chickenfoot
I almost fell over seeing your response lol.
26 Nov 2024 15:57:21
Chickenfoot
As usual you're ? wrong.
Cheers.
25 Nov 2024 12:32:19
Chickenfoot
Of course you dissected as O'Reilly being more than he is and The Leaf Players being less than their value.
Am I surprised by your response?
Absolutely not as this is your thing no matter what I post.
Cheers.
22 Nov 2024 01:08:01
Chickenfoot
Anaheim gets NRobertson for retaining 2.5 million of Granlund's expiring Contract.
21 Nov 2024 12:11:02
Chickenfoot
NRobertson is 23 years old compared to a 36 years old PKane and UFA after this season is why rebuilding teams like Detroit make trades like this, ask yourself is adding a younger player with an upside what rebuilding teams do?
Yes NRobertson has 1 goal but I just believe it's more playing in Toronto for him not his ability.
We can agree to disagree which is fine.
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