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02 Jun 2023 12:13:24
Toronto Trades
MMurray
28th Overall Pick 2023
SanJose Trades
196th Overall Pick 2023 (7th Round)
Thoughts ?
31 May 2023 14:24:18
Sharks Trade
EKarlsson
Hertl
4th Overall Pick 2023
Leafs Trade
Matthews
Liljegren
MMurray
28th Overall Pick 2023
There would have to be a sign and trade contract in place for Matthews to complete this proposal, but I believe it fits both Teams needs imo.
Thoughts ?
1.) 31 May 2023 15:48:30
I don’t think the leafs could make this work cap wise. Also acquiring Mathews makes no sense for San Jose.
2.) 31 May 2023 16:07:30
SJ is deep in a rebuild, and in the process of stripping it down and trading off what they can.
Consider what other teams realistically need in a trade, and not just your leafs, if you're trying to pitch a realistic trade.
If you're only interested in posting absolute nonsense that serves only your team's needs, then just write it on some Cottonelle, wipe and then flush. Then it will have served some kind of purpose.
3.) 01 Jun 2023 14:43:36
Chickenfoot
How old are Hertl and EKarlsson compared to Matthews and Liljegren?
In a rebuild don't you trade your older players for younger players and or prospects and draft picks?
4.) 01 Jun 2023 17:04:36
I don’t think Mathews signs with SJ.
30 May 2023 16:15:03
Arizona Trades
Keller
Crouse
Schmaltz
Cooley (Big-10)
Toronto Trades
Matthews
WNylander
Would Arizona and Toronto have a true blockbuster like my proposal ?
It's the fun time to be an armchair GM and with all these players involved being possibly moved including Cooley staying in College, and not convinced he ever signs with Arizona would this work for both teams in there situations?
Thoughts ?
1.) 30 May 2023 19:42:58
This does not make Arizona a playoff team so they decline.
2.) 31 May 2023 10:19:36
- the whole league knows Matthews and Nylander aren’t winners, and both have one year left in their current deal.
- why would ARI trade 4 young building blocks and sacrifice their rebuild for salaries they can’t afford to pay?
Think it through Pinball…the rest of the league doesn’t exist to restock your leafs. You have to propose trades that make sense for both sides. This isn’t close to realistic bud.
?Homer Deals.
3.) 31 May 2023 18:21:22
Matthews to ARI makes sense in terms of it making the franchise more money as a whole. Does it make them a playoff team. I truly don't know. They went 28-40-14 last season relying heavily on Keller. Could Arizona wait another year and take a run at him, absolutely. But for a team trying to create an argument as to why there should be hockey in the desert and increase revenue, adding a top player in the league would definitely help the case. especially one from the state. Like it's been stated on other things a deal would have to be in place or Toronto wouldn't get an ideal return for him. As for the trade itself don't see Arizona parting with any of those pieces except maybe Cooley and that would only be if they think he's not gonna sign with them at all. I think they have some of those big dead contracts coming off the books this season so they'd have the cap to make some moves. Don't think the Leafs package Matthews and Nylander in one deal, probably be two seperate deals.
26 May 2023 16:23:49
Anaheim Trades
McTavish
2nd Overall Pick 2023
60th Overall Pick 2023
Toronto Trades
Matthews
28th Overall Pick 2023
Anaheim with a ton of Cap Space can make this happen money wise including signing an extension (a sign and trade would have to be in place) to make it work for The Ducks, Matthews is young enough that he would fit with the rebuild.
Leafs are still in a Cap Space issue, trading Matthews helps huge and restocks the team going forward with Cap Space added, McTavish and probably Fantilli will be the next wave of young forwards coming in, I have heard none of the core 4 will be traded but if a proposal like this is in play you would have to consider it for both teams.
Thoughts ?
1.) 26 May 2023 17:36:03
Far too much for Matthews. If he wants to sign in Anaheim and Toronto wants that much, just wait the year and keep the assets, or wait until Toronto's ask is at least reasonable.
No point in gutting the prospect depth you've been building up to get him a year early when he won't make you a contender anyways.
2.) 26 May 2023 20:52:57
memarcusjoe
Gutting the prospect pool?
Matthews isn't a 30+ Centre in decline, if anything he is about to hit his prime.
This would be an opportunity for Anaheim to add one of the best Centres in The NHL, don't expect Matthews to be on the market after next season, if it isn't Toronto it will be a team that trades for him before July 1.
Adding him now gives Anaheim 2 extra years as only the team owning his rights can sign him for 8 years, you include next season that's 9 years compared to 7 years as a UFA.
I believe if this proposal is out there both teams would be interested imo.
3.) 26 May 2023 21:58:37
Sorry Pinball it isn't good for Anaheim. You want two top 3 picks for one year of Matthews. Anaheim tells you to pound sand. He's good, but not that good especially when you factor in his current contract and add his next in there as well.
It's unlikely Matthews signs an 8 year deal imo. He'll sign another short to medium one and try to cash in again.
As I said he doesn't help Anaheim much next year, so if he wants to sign there that bad, they can wait and keep the 2 top 3 assets.
4.) 27 May 2023 14:47:25
Seems better than usual but Anaheim would easily refuse. McTavish is really good and fantelli may be better than matthews.
5.) 27 May 2023 16:59:39
If a leafs did something extremely unethical like sign him to a 8 year contract and now he’s off the market teams can no longer sign him he’s a leaf and he wants to be a leaf then they turned around and traded him before his NMC kicks in then this would be fair but that’s not going to happen. He’s worth slightly more then what Erik Karlsson got at the moment. In theory yes you can wait until free agency but then you lose certainty.
6.) 28 May 2023 22:25:02
vbbbvbb
That's why I stated a sign and trade, Calgary did that last off season with Tkachuk and Florida.
7.) 29 May 2023 13:23:45
Memarcus nailed it.
If you're trying to get a great regular season team, Matthews is your guy.
If you're trying to build a winner, get someone with heart.
Last but not least, the other 31 teams do not exist to save the leafs from their own bad asset management. Dubas inherited a sweet hand and played it very poorly. Cue the next rebuild.
8.) 29 May 2023 18:52:41
Thanks chickenfoot ??.
9.) 30 May 2023 04:13:45
Why would a playoff team rebuild? Teams make money by being competitive and the leafs are. They make more money by getting bounced in round 1 every year then they would not making playoffs. Just a dumb take the leafs wont rebuild just like they won’t move Mathews, Nylander, Marner, Rielly or Tavares.
23 May 2023 14:57:13
Anaheim Trades
McTavish
Terry
2nd Overall Pick 2023
60th Overall Pick 2023
Toronto Trades
Matthews
Jarnkrok
28th Overall Pick 2023
Thoughts ?
1.) 23 May 2023 16:29:16
I doubt Matthews and Anaheim could make a deal.
2.) 23 May 2023 17:04:55
HockeyDad
Why couldn't Matthews and Anaheim make a deal (I am assuming you mean a contract extension) .
Matthews side kick buddy Justin Bieber has a huge home down the street in Beverly Hills.
I actually can see Matthews wanting out of The Toronto spotlight imo.
3.) 24 May 2023 11:30:37
Mathews loves the spotlight lol. Probably would head to LA if he leaves Toronto.
4.) 29 May 2023 13:37:02
I don't think Matthews likes the spotlight at all. I suspect he'll go to the highest bidder, and if it's in a smaller market that doesn't care about hockey, all the better for a guy like that. I suspect he'd prefer to cash his checks, pad his stats, and lose in peace.
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28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.
Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)
Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)
All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.
1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.
I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?
I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.
18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023
Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt
Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.
Thoughts ?
08 Apr 2021 12:48:24
2 Trade Proposals for The Leafs.
First Trade.
Buffalo Trades
THall (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
Barabanov
1st Round Pick 2021
Second Trade.
Detroit Trades
Bernier (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
FAndersen
4th Round Pick 2021
The Leafs wouldn't have to trade Kerfoot or any other player on the current roster besides an injured FAndersen and replacing him with a healthy Bernier and saving 3.5m in Cap keeps Kerfoot on the Team only making them deeper with quality depth.
The Trades for UFAs have been established and this is very similar to what The Islanders and Devils did last night.
Thoughts ?
04 Apr 2021 21:33:42
Devils Trade
Palmieri (50% of Contract Retained)
Toronto Trades
Simmonds
2nd Round Pick 2021
Leafs are just under the cap limit so it works Cap Wise in this trade proposal.
Thoughts ?
1.) 05 Apr 2021 20:11:28
He’s the only guy that can fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Do you want them to get bullied in the playoffs and throw their skirts on? Or would you rather the other team know there are consequences for their actions.
2.) 06 Apr 2021 23:05:24
Agree with Toronto17. one thing Leafs have lacked the past couple of years is gritty hard nosed players. so Pinball, why would you want to trade away one of the grittier in your face types, the league has to offer? He may not score the way he once did. but he's still an important player. Leafs have enough guys to put the puck in the net. need to keep the grit. And. he still can score .
3.) 07 Apr 2021 04:52:15
If this is all Palmeri can get the devils will keep him .
11 Jul 2020 15:34:12
A Proposal that I don't see happening but if it did would either Team be even interested in doing it ?
Edmonton Traded
McDavid
Toronto Trades
Matthews
Kapanen
Dermott
Thoughts ?
1.) 11 Jul 2020 17:54:42
The Oilers would never do this trade.
2.) 11 Jul 2020 19:49:21
One team would take it and run and the other wouldn't give the deal any consideration at all. See if you can put aside your heavy bias for one minute Pinball and figure out which is which.
3.) 11 Jul 2020 22:55:38
replace kap with freddie and a couple firsts and the oil don't hang up immediately.
4.) 12 Jul 2020 01:38:50
Mackinnon at 6.3 million>>>McDavid with the flat cap.
McDavid isn’t a top 5 most valuable player in the NHL anymore imo but mathews certainly isn’t either.
5.) 14 Jul 2020 01:05:15
McDavid for Matthews, Marner, Rielly and a 1st.
6.) 14 Jul 2020 17:10:33
@EP40 I hope that’s a troll.
Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes and Horvat for McDavid.
7.) 17 Jul 2020 03:24:45
Matthews and Reilly is fair value, but the leafs would still have to add Kapanen To get it done.
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01 Jun 2023 14:43:36
Chickenfoot
How old are Hertl and EKarlsson compared to Matthews and Liljegren?
In a rebuild don't you trade your older players for younger players and or prospects and draft picks?
28 May 2023 22:25:02
vbbbvbb
That's why I stated a sign and trade, Calgary did that last off season with Tkachuk and Florida.
26 May 2023 20:52:57
memarcusjoe
Gutting the prospect pool?
Matthews isn't a 30+ Centre in decline, if anything he is about to hit his prime.
This would be an opportunity for Anaheim to add one of the best Centres in The NHL, don't expect Matthews to be on the market after next season, if it isn't Toronto it will be a team that trades for him before July 1.
Adding him now gives Anaheim 2 extra years as only the team owning his rights can sign him for 8 years, you include next season that's 9 years compared to 7 years as a UFA.
I believe if this proposal is out there both teams would be interested imo.
23 May 2023 17:04:55
HockeyDad
Why couldn't Matthews and Anaheim make a deal (I am assuming you mean a contract extension) .
Matthews side kick buddy Justin Bieber has a huge home down the street in Beverly Hills.
I actually can see Matthews wanting out of The Toronto spotlight imo.
17 May 2023 14:33:34
Chickenfoot.
It's 2 teams getting rid of their problems with each player helping the other team imo.
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