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10 Apr 2024 13:18:01
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
3rd Round Pick 2025 (Florida's Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Leafs will be looking to upgrade Defence and adding Chychrun would fit into what they would be looking at.

Unless Chychrun is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season, NRobertson would be either on the second or third line in Ottawa, Liljegren though not Chychrun would play in Ottawa full time, DeWar fills in the 4th line nicely and Sens also get a 1st Rounder out of this deal

Remember everyone Chychrun was traded for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders when Arizona traded him to Ottawa and had more contract as well, so my proposal imo is similar to that transaction.



Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 10 Apr 2024 20:25:35
- explain it any way you like, and upvote yourself till the cows come home, but these one-sided trades you post incessantly are a waste of everyone’s time.

- OTT isn’t going to help your leafs out like this for that yard sale of a return. Their new owner would fire any GM that even suggested something like this.


2.) 11 Apr 2024 01:40:21
So chychrun for a bag of pucks turns ottawa's 3rd into a 1st? No thanks.


3.) 11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.


4.) 11 Apr 2024 22:03:07
Chychrun with one year left is much more valuable than the three players with zero years left.
Ottawa has their own RFA's to work on this summer.
What value does 4th liner dewar have to ottawa? (McEwen still under contract, kastelic still under contract, affordable RFA's kelly and katchouk)
What about bottom pair d liljegren? (Hamonic still under contract, zub under contract)
3rd liner NRobertson? (Matthieu joseph still under contract)
Maybe it's an odd way of thinking to you, but how about just keeping your RFA's and ottawa keeps their 3rd? This would make the trade chychrun to the leafs for a 1st. I'm fairly certain this offer won't work for you, because it doesn't heavily favor the leafs.


5.) 12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?


6.) 13 Apr 2024 13:37:45
YES pinball, I would 100% click believable on chychrun to toronto for two 2nd's. I am certainly not trying to convince you or anybody that hamonic is equivalent to liljegren or that Parker kelly is equivalent to NRobertson, my point is that hamonic is under contract and likewise with zub. is ottawa really going to improve by having zub and liljegren in their top 4 on the right side and hamonic on the bottom pair? At forward, stutzle, Tkachuk, giroux, batherson, pinto, norris. would NRobertson be in their top 6? I'm going to go ahead and say no.
Joseph, kastelic, Greig, McEwen under contract for next year in the bottom 6 - I'm not suggesting these players are superior to dewar, I'm sure he's amazing on the leafs 4th line. I'm simply pointing out that they are under contract for next season. So unless ottawa can pull off a trade similar to some of the proposals you make on here, then these players will be taking spots.
To suggest ottawa would give up assets for fringe RFA's is absurd. Why not make a proposal where each of these players is involved in a sign-and-trade? I'm sure teams would be lining up around block. Ridiculous.


 

 

09 Apr 2024 16:15:10
A proposal if Samsonov is resigned.

Detroit Trades
Seider
3rd Round Pick 2025

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
Woll
1st Round Pick 2026


Leafs focus on getting a Top 2 younger Defenceman get's them that in a big way, yes it's a lot to give up but worth the price imo.

Red Wings in that still rebuilding mode and yes trading Seider would be something they wouldn't normally do, but getting that package replaces more than what they have currently.


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Pinballisback

1.) 09 Apr 2024 16:34:23
In what world does Steve Yzerman do this deal; cause it sure isn't this one.

We don't have the pieces right now to get a top pairing dman let alone one that is still an RFA at only 23 years old.

It's wishful thinking, but if Trev called Stevie Y with this package he would probably laugh at him and ask where the punch line was.


2.) 09 Apr 2024 20:35:07
MG69
So a potential #1 Goaltender, a 22 year old that can score some, Liljegren would be third in scoring on Detroit, a young 4th line Centre/ Winger who is good on the PK plus a 1st Rounder isn't enough for one player of Seider's ability and age plus of course a 3rd Rounder?
This site constantly undervalues Leaf Players, why I don't know but many on here do.
I am not just saying this because I see other posts of much lesser players that people over value, so the opposite imo.


3.) 09 Apr 2024 23:42:09
I'm a Leafs fan man. This isn't an undervalue, it's reality.


Like you already said, Detroit is rebuilding so why would they trade a player who fits that rebuild timeline and would be a top dman on most NHL teams?

Robertson doesn't even crack their top 9. He's not taking a spot from Debrincat, Perron, or Fabbri on the LW. And he's not taking a spot at centre from Compher or Copp. So he'd be on the 4th line there which as we have seen doesn't work well.

You keep referring to scoring like that's all that matters. Lily isn't consistent on the defensive side of things at all. Has great games and then has games where he's making some awful mistakes in our own zone. Could he still turn into a top 4 dman, maybe. But Detroit has ASP coming down the pipeline who looks to be stud on the backend.

Dewar is exactly what you said a 4th liner who kills penalties well. He's been great for us and I hope he stays a member of the Leafs going forward. But in terms of this trade he doesn't move the needle much at all.

Woll could be a #1 goalie. But since his return he has looked very shaky. Numerous games now that he has let the first shot in. I hope he returns to form and I hope it's on the Leafs. But as of right now, based on his play he doesn't move the needle much either.

As I have stated before our prospect pool is filled with guys hitting that 22-23 age where not a single one has been able to compete for a roster spot. Add another prospect to the pool that we can either develop for ourselves or use down the road as a part of a trade for a bigger fish.

I can appreciate you wanting us to get better sooner rather than later. But other teams are not going to make quantity over quality deals just for our sake.


4.) 10 Apr 2024 01:24:46
Too funny.


5.) 10 Apr 2024 14:23:16
whoever clicked believable on this is has to be trolling. in no universe does this trade happen or is realistic.


6.) 10 Apr 2024 20:27:28
Read the feedback Pinball, your fellow leaf fans think this is unrealistic. Accept the feedback and adjust like anyone else would do.


7.) 11 Apr 2024 02:35:18
MG69 nailed it! ? ?.


8.) 15 Apr 2024 17:48:44
Before this trade, Detroit has only 1 quality RH defensenan. After, they have 0. No thank you.


 

 

05 Apr 2024 14:40:55
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Liljegren
Akhtyamov (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)

Washington Trades
Carlson*


*Caps retain 4 million of Carlson's remaining 2 years with an AAV of 2 million.


Leafs will be looking in the off season to get a solid two way defenseman imo, and Carlson checks all the boxes as well as being a veteran player.

Caps are an older team looking to get younger for the future, Carlson has been a top Defenceman for them but it's time to trade him for assets that help for the now and the future and this proposal does that imo.



Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 05 Apr 2024 15:53:15
I think Caps would take this. Carlson is good . not the player he was years ago. but the return helps replenish the cupboard.


2.) 08 Apr 2024 17:13:02
- Treliving won't be trading 1st rounders like Dubas. He would also probably look for someone younger than 34 to commit assets towards.

- It's hard to imagine an NHL team retaining 4M x 3 seasons. Besides, WSH is all about getting Ovi the record, and winning appears to be secondary. Trading Carlson would undermine that.


3.) 08 Apr 2024 21:40:02
Chickenfoot.
Treliving won't be trading 1st Rounders?
Tyler Toffoli and what about Sean Monahan plus a 1st Rounder to Montreal for Future Considerations?
Just to name a few he did not that long ago.
You complain on my posts that I don't address Defense or Goaltending, so I address Defense and still a no iyo.
It's 4 million over 2 years not 4 million a year for 3 years as Carlson only has 2 years left to go after this season.


4.) 09 Apr 2024 12:16:58
He's done it before, but as I have previously said our prospect pool isn't that deep. Most of our guys are hitting that 22-23 mark and haven't been remotely good enough to challenge for a roster spot. Continue to add to the prospect pool, add some players in free agency, and focus to when Tavares is off the books or brought back at a team friendly deal. Cap will have gone up and we will have some space to work with to address any lingering concerns and make a very solid team.


5.) 10 Apr 2024 20:18:01
PlNBALL:

- stop with the whining and crying when you get predictable feedback. Embarrassing.

- Treliving said he wasn’t trading 1st round picks in Toronto. He’s been a GM in the past, and of course he’s trade them in the past. He recognizes that Toronto has few prospects and picks left and can’t afford to trade them as recklessly as Dubas did.

- good for you to come to the realization that the leafs D needs work. Your trades are still way off, one-sided, homer trades though, and the feedback you receive even from fellow leaf fans confirms that. If you can’t accept the truth that’s on you.


 

 

02 Apr 2024 15:26:37
Islanders Trade
Pulock
3rd Round Pick 2025

Leafs Trade
Kampf
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 02 Apr 2024 15:49:54
Oh Pinball.


2.) 03 Apr 2024 22:33:43
- I applaud you for recognizing, as the rest of the hockey world does, that the construction of the leafs D needs "attention".

However,

- why would NYI be interested in giving up a D-Man they committed to long-term and granted a NTC? Because the leafs need the help?

- why would NYI take on Kampf's contract at 2.4M x 3 more years? He scores 7 goals a year, and at -4 isn't even a defensively responsible player? Kampf has negative trade value: if you want to move him, you're adding a sweetener and/ or retaining salary.

- Liljegren will be lucky to see the ice in the playoffs. He's a sweetheart who is ill-equipped for the grind of the NHL playoffs. Furthermore, he's an RFA. The more likely scenario is he doesn't get a contract offer from the leafs, and ends up signing for the league minimum wherever he can land a contract.

- the 1st is the only thing of value in this trade, and it's a late first. It's not even close to fair value.


3.) 04 Apr 2024 13:31:28
Chickenfoot.
After this season Pulock has 6 years left on his contract at 6,150.000 each year, that is a big contract for Pulock and how good he really is, yes it's a big one for The Leafs as well but they need to improve Defence imo.
Liljegren like Samsonov you rate as no value which is truly ridiculous, as Liljegren would be second in scoring on defense with The NYI with only Dobson ahead of him and Liljegren has no value?
2 years from now you are assuming Toronto is still a top team there are no guarantees that will be true is why I have it as Lottery Protected, so to say it's a late pick is an assumption.
Kampf isn't a desired player but has to be added for Cap Reasons, all teams make trades like this when Cap is involved and he is still an NHL Player not an AHL Player.
We can agree to disagree but you have Pulock rated higher than he really is and a player like Liljegren rated lower in value imo.


4.) 04 Apr 2024 15:33:28
Lily is a bottom pairing dman with some offensive upside. Potentially a top 4. His game is just inconsistent and not matured like Pollock's. Pollock has never been an offensive powerhouse from the backend. What he does do is make responsible plays with the puck and blocks a good amount of shots. Him at just over $6mill is a great deal for what he brings. Just isn't enough for the Islanders to be interested and unlikely they want to move him anyways lol.


5.) 06 Apr 2024 02:23:58
"Kampf isn't a desired player but has to be added for Cap Reasons, all teams make trades like this when Cap is involved" is a strongly inaccurate statement. I agree with chickenfoot that this is where something tangible should be added. kampf and samsonov were both picked up for free off the UFA scrap heap, I also can't imagine the leafs suddenly opening their wallets for samsonov's extension this summer.


6.) 08 Apr 2024 17:19:59
Pinball. all I can say is. good for you to finally recognize the leafs D is a rebuild.

Your plan isn't close to realistic though for reasons already explained.

I'm sure the off-season moves for your team will be as big a shock to your expectations as was the Trade Deadline. It was obvious to everyone but you that the leafs just didn't have the trade capital to make moves remotely close to what you were suggesting.


 

 

25 Mar 2024 13:54:30
At The Draft.

Ottawa Trades
BTkachuk
Hamonic
3rd Round Pick 2025*

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Holmberg
DeWar
Liljegren
Cowan (OHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


*Sens have 2 picks in the 2025 3rd Round, their own and Florida's.
The Leafs will decide which one they want at The 2025 Draft.


This would be a trade proposal of the ages, Ottawa imo would look at this as they are still in a rebuild and getting this much for mostly BTkachuk could help them more for their future than not doing this proposal.
Leafs get a LWinger that brings so much to the table it would be worth trading away that much youth and future to get him, Hamonic gives them also what they need a tough right-handed shooting defenceman.



Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 25 Mar 2024 14:48:55
Ottawa won't trade Tkachuk, especially for that horrible offer of 4th line NHLers, boarder line AHLers, unproven Junior players, and late 1st round picks.
Stop already with your daily one sided, pro leaf trade follies.


2.) 25 Mar 2024 15:40:46
islandjet1
Besides DeWar who is the 4th liner? and there are no AHLers in my proposal, Easton Cowan just set a record for conservative points in London and that's not a prospect?
Liljegren would be third in Defense scoring so that's garbage as well?
Two 1st Rounders aren't worth anything else according to you.
And Holmberg is a solid Winger/ Centre and will only get better.
Look to trade Brady Tkachuk would be a bold move but what is in my proposal is the opposite of what you just posted as besides DeWar being a 4th liner, nothing else in your view applies at all.


3.) 25 Mar 2024 22:12:48
Stop it. Ottawa wouldn't accept and the little cost controlled depth we do have should be held onto.

We are a whole ass year away from being ready to make a legitimate push. We have next to zero draft capital, our goaltending is questionable at best, and we are still missing a very solid RHD.

You overvalue our players like no other man and have no idea the value of other teams' players or their importance to their current team.


4.) 25 Mar 2024 23:35:21
Adding Tkachuk would mean $62.355 million out of a possible $87.7 million salary cap will be allocated to 6 players, 5 of which are forwards. (Matthews 13.25, Nylander 11.5, Tavares 11, Marner 10.9, Reilly 7.5 and Tkachuk at 8.205)

$24.645 million left to pay 16 players, one of which would be Samsonov looking for an extension and a raise on his current $3.55m salary.

Toronto doesn't get any closer to a Stanley cup by trading their best prospect and 2 1st round picks for another forward.


5.) 26 Mar 2024 13:19:09
DrezDave
16 players to resign?
That number is way off, you might disagree with me which you are entitled to about my proposal, but please post facts not fiction.


6.) 26 Mar 2024 13:29:39
He never said we needed to resign them he's saying we have $24.645 mill to fill out 16 roster spots. That's not enough to build a contending team. I'm sure you are seeing Vegas trade away their draft capital and are thinking man we should do that too. The difference is they have guys signed at reasonable cap hits so they have built an absolute powerhouse of a team because of it. They can afford to trade draft picks away cause they are likely 3-4 years away from some key players regressing and can wait to add prospects. We are not.


7.) 26 Mar 2024 13:32:55
$10.7 million allocated to Knies, Kampf, Reaves, Mcmann, McCabe, Timmins and Woll.

So that's $73 million out of $87 million committed to 13 players.

$14 million left to sign a starting goalie, 3 NHL caliber defenseman, and 5 other NHL caliber forwards.

You want facts? You can't ice a competitive NHL roster when 84% of your teams salary is allocated to only 13 players, none of which are the starting goalie.


8.) 26 Mar 2024 13:39:37
MG69
Leafs for next season have 13 players signed, the max on a roster is 23 players so 23 - 13 is 10 not 16, please explain where the other 6 come in?


9.) 26 Mar 2024 13:52:55
DrwDave
Woll is the starter next season not Samsonov, which I believe isn't resigned.


10.) 26 Mar 2024 14:10:05
Might as well take 2.2 mill off that Hamonic makes @DrwDave so that number now becomes 11.8 mill for two NHL caliber dmen, 5 other forwards, and I won't even say a starting goalie but another goalie to share starting duties with Will. Either way it's not enough to make a competitive cup team.


11.) 26 Mar 2024 14:40:40
Good god man he is saying the rest of the cap left over after you take away the cap hits of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Rielly, and Tkachuk would be used on the remaining roster spots whether they are signed to us or not. He also listed the players that are signed through till next offseason and they eat up $12.9 mill. So now we are at around $11.8 mill for the remaining roster spots from either guys in our system or guys we sign. End of the day we need another NHL level goalie, at least 2 NHL level dmen, and forwards to either be signed or from our system. The number is actually even less as I didn't include Jarnkrok.


12.) 28 Mar 2024 11:06:43
Thats alot of quantity with very little quality coming from the leafs, like usual.


13.) 31 Mar 2024 11:27:05
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28 Feb 2023 21:35:48
What a Leaf Day so far.

Leafs Going
Sandin (Washington)
Engvall (NYIslanders)
3rd Round Pick (Vancouver)

Leafs Incoming
Gustafsson (Washington)
LSchenn (Vancouver)
1st Round Pick 2023 (Boston's Pick)
3rd Round Pick 2024 (NYIslanders)

All I can say is my thorn on here Chickenfoot, didn't I say Dubas was going to do big things ?
More to come by THE GENIUS Dubas.

Pinballisback

1.) 01 Mar 2023 12:47:53
In 2 weeks he has brought in O’Rielly, McCabe, Acciari, Lafferty, Schenn, Gustafsson and recovered a 1st rounder…. lost only Sandin, Engvall and Joey Anderson off the NHL roster, has chicago paying 50% of McCabe for 2 more seasons AND actually gained cap space over that period.

I honestly don’t know anyone else that would have or could have done that. If they don’t extend him, where do you go looking for a replacement GM that’s an upgrade? I wouldn’t wanna be the guy who has to find it. And if you don’t keep Dubas around, does Brandon Pridham, their cap expert, stay? Or does he go with Dubas?

I think it’ll be a big mistake to not extend Dubas regardless of what happens in the first round. He’s done his job at an elite level. It’s up to the players to do theirs now.


 

 

18 Mar 2022 19:12:42
Toronto Trades
WNylander
NRobertson
Liljegren
Dermott
Hirvonen (SML)
1st Round Pick 2022
2nd Round Pick 2023

Vancouver Trades
JTMiller
Garland
LSchenn
Hunt

Both Toronto and Vancouver basically said respectfully that WNylander and/or JTMiller wouldn't be traded from their respected teams, and I know it probably won't happen, but if both Teams would be willing I believe this would be great trade for both Teams imo, plus it would be the biggest deadline trade in NHL history.


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Pinballisback

 

 

08 Apr 2021 12:48:24
2 Trade Proposals for The Leafs.

First Trade.

Buffalo Trades
THall (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
Barabanov
1st Round Pick 2021



Second Trade.

Detroit Trades
Bernier (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
FAndersen
4th Round Pick 2021


The Leafs wouldn't have to trade Kerfoot or any other player on the current roster besides an injured FAndersen and replacing him with a healthy Bernier and saving 3.5m in Cap keeps Kerfoot on the Team only making them deeper with quality depth.

The Trades for UFAs have been established and this is very similar to what The Islanders and Devils did last night.


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04 Apr 2021 21:33:42
Devils Trade
Palmieri (50% of Contract Retained)

Toronto Trades
Simmonds
2nd Round Pick 2021

Leafs are just under the cap limit so it works Cap Wise in this trade proposal.


Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 05 Apr 2021 20:11:28
He’s the only guy that can fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Do you want them to get bullied in the playoffs and throw their skirts on? Or would you rather the other team know there are consequences for their actions.


2.) 06 Apr 2021 23:05:24
Agree with Toronto17. one thing Leafs have lacked the past couple of years is gritty hard nosed players. so Pinball, why would you want to trade away one of the grittier in your face types, the league has to offer? He may not score the way he once did. but he's still an important player. Leafs have enough guys to put the puck in the net. need to keep the grit. And. he still can score .


3.) 07 Apr 2021 04:52:15
If this is all Palmeri can get the devils will keep him .


 

 

11 Jul 2020 15:34:12
A Proposal that I don't see happening but if it did would either Team be even interested in doing it ?

Edmonton Traded
McDavid

Toronto Trades
Matthews
Kapanen
Dermott

Thoughts ?

Pinballisback

1.) 11 Jul 2020 17:54:42
The Oilers would never do this trade.


2.) 11 Jul 2020 19:49:21
One team would take it and run and the other wouldn't give the deal any consideration at all. See if you can put aside your heavy bias for one minute Pinball and figure out which is which.


3.) 11 Jul 2020 22:55:38
replace kap with freddie and a couple firsts and the oil don't hang up immediately.


4.) 12 Jul 2020 01:38:50
Mackinnon at 6.3 million>>>McDavid with the flat cap.

McDavid isn’t a top 5 most valuable player in the NHL anymore imo but mathews certainly isn’t either.


5.) 14 Jul 2020 01:05:15
McDavid for Matthews, Marner, Rielly and a 1st.


6.) 14 Jul 2020 17:10:33
@EP40 I hope that’s a troll.

Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes and Horvat for McDavid.


7.) 17 Jul 2020 03:24:45
Matthews and Reilly is fair value, but the leafs would still have to add Kapanen To get it done.


 

 

 

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12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?

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11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.

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09 Apr 2024 20:35:07
MG69
So a potential #1 Goaltender, a 22 year old that can score some, Liljegren would be third in scoring on Detroit, a young 4th line Centre/ Winger who is good on the PK plus a 1st Rounder isn't enough for one player of Seider's ability and age plus of course a 3rd Rounder?
This site constantly undervalues Leaf Players, why I don't know but many on here do.
I am not just saying this because I see other posts of much lesser players that people over value, so the opposite imo.

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08 Apr 2024 21:40:02
Chickenfoot.
Treliving won't be trading 1st Rounders?
Tyler Toffoli and what about Sean Monahan plus a 1st Rounder to Montreal for Future Considerations?
Just to name a few he did not that long ago.
You complain on my posts that I don't address Defense or Goaltending, so I address Defense and still a no iyo.
It's 4 million over 2 years not 4 million a year for 3 years as Carlson only has 2 years left to go after this season.

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04 Apr 2024 13:31:28
Chickenfoot.
After this season Pulock has 6 years left on his contract at 6,150.000 each year, that is a big contract for Pulock and how good he really is, yes it's a big one for The Leafs as well but they need to improve Defence imo.
Liljegren like Samsonov you rate as no value which is truly ridiculous, as Liljegren would be second in scoring on defense with The NYI with only Dobson ahead of him and Liljegren has no value?
2 years from now you are assuming Toronto is still a top team there are no guarantees that will be true is why I have it as Lottery Protected, so to say it's a late pick is an assumption.
Kampf isn't a desired player but has to be added for Cap Reasons, all teams make trades like this when Cap is involved and he is still an NHL Player not an AHL Player.
We can agree to disagree but you have Pulock rated higher than he really is and a player like Liljegren rated lower in value imo.

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