NHL rumours 2

31 Aug 2024 23:41:20
R.I.P. JG

Columbus realizes it is time to move on, not replace, but try to start a new fresh era.


To Columbus:

Leon Draisitl @14.5 for 8 years starting next year. 8.5 mil this year

Darnell Nurse 9.25 mil

for:

Boone Jenner - $3.75mil
Zach Werenski -$9.583,333 mil
2025 1st rnd
2026 3rd rnd
2027 2nd round

07 Sep 2024 15:29:52
Obviously, this trade scenario was devised before Drais actually inked his new contract with the Oilers.

I wonder though if this mock trade would have been mulled over by the Oilers and possibly accepted?

07 Sep 2024 15:53:19
Lol um blues beat that with kyrou and dvorsky.

31 Aug 2024 18:23:59
Chi: seth jones,1 mil retained Columbus: 3rd. Columbus needs to get to the cap floor.

07 Sep 2024 12:12:13
they are like 1m under the cap, they could just pluck someone off the waiver wire and be cap compliant.

25 Aug 2024 20:02:47
My two fav teams Habs and Jets.
Being from Winnipeg there are my home team. Even if I don't live there now.
I was hoping that they would have done more in the off season. But Winnipeg isn't that attractive city compared to other NHL cities and plus the taxes. Hard to find players to sign.
Now the only real trade commodity is Ehlers.
WPG
Ehlers
CAL
Andersson
2025 draft pick.
As of right now biggest move WPG made was to trade McGroarty
WPG
McGroarty
PIT
Yager.
I think WPG has a good team but idk about a good deep playoff team as it is. They still need improvements. But then so does every team.

Habs have been busy improving their team. Whether they make the playoffs or not they will be a little more exciting team to watch.
MTL
Laine
CLB
Harris
Trade I questioned. But it is a win trade for Habs for at least 2 yrs anyway.
Habs goaltenders are a question mark. For now. But Fowler is highly prospect. So the future should be better.
Anyway you look at it Habs should be a good, strong playoff team in a few years. They need another cup!
Can't wait for the season to get started !

26 Aug 2024 19:23:48
MUZZA: I can't wait to have hockey back too brother!

27 Aug 2024 16:10:06
Ehlers doesn’t fit with flames plans to old. Trade would be for youth.

25 Aug 2024 02:49:09
Montreal trade option to contend…
Flames are clearly in a full rebuild , so I would target kadri
Mtl sends :
2025 first round ( Calgary or Florida) , 2025 2nd round ( habs got 3) , 2025 3rd round (habs also have 3) and Owen beck
To flames for :
Kadri ( 3 million retained, so would cost 4million per season for next 5 years until he’s 38yrs old)
Habs get a gritty skilled veteran cup winner center , perfect to center 2nd line for next 2-3yrs , then 3rd line for last 2yr
2026 lineup
1st line
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov Kadri laine
Roy Newhook dach
Gallagher evans Anderson
With hage, Florian xhejaj , kapanen and Mesar knocking on the door

25 Aug 2024 03:36:34
I'm pretty happy to see what we have now. Also remember Denidov will probably be here next year. I thimk Dach can be the 2nd line guy. Hopefully Beck can be the 3rd in a couple years. I think Kadri is a good player, I see why you'd like to add him, however I think he would be taking a spot of someone else who can do it.

25 Aug 2024 03:37:02
Sorry you had Demidov on. my old eyes are failing me haha.

25 Aug 2024 10:48:36
Kadri can help a team, but is the wrong age for a rebuilding team. I’d rather keep all that trade capital and grow the team internally.

25 Aug 2024 11:05:45
I dont think sending 3 picks plus a young centre for a 34 yr old fits the rebuild plan.

24 Aug 2024 00:21:28
I can't believe MTL traded for Laine.
MTL
Harris
CLB
Laine
2026-2RD.

Thoughts on this trade.
I don't know if it's a good one for the Habs. Unless Laine can return to a 40 goal scorer.
Maybe St. Louis can work his magic on him.

Another note
For Winnipeg Jets.
Thoughts on WPG signing Klingberg to a PTO.
If healthy, he can help with the powerplay. Tall Right side defenceman. Done side is his defensive play and health.
Thoughts.

24 Aug 2024 04:21:29
Muzza, im really excited about adding Laine. I think this guy is a top 5 sniper in the league. Obviously he has had some personal issues, however, the fact that he actually went to deal with these issues shows me he is maturing. I have a lot of faith in Hughes and Gorton and they did a lot of research to see if this guy is ok.

Habs haven't had a really exciting goal scorer since Richer in the 80's! . Maybe it won't pan out, who knows. But as a fan who hasn't seen alot of offensive talent, im excited.

24 Aug 2024 14:03:17
Hey Sodahabs24
If Laine can return as player he was when healthy then I agree this is great for the Habs. Finally have a sniper. And they play him as such. But my concern is at a salary of 8m and his health, mental health at question. I know he had help with his mental health.
But I know there will always be a trigger. But there is hope. Hopefully this is exactly what he needs a new start on a team that believes in him
I agree with he might be or will be the best goal scorer Habs had in decades.
I’m also a Habs fan. So this could skyrocket their rebuild .

24 Aug 2024 17:10:46
There is deffenitley some risk with adding a player like Laine, but the reward is huge. So, let's just see what will come. It's only 2 years if it doesn't work, so the management didn't screw up the future if this experiment fails.
As a Habs fan since 79, I can't remember being so excited for a season to start. I'm not saying they are gonna contend, but they should battle for a playoff spot, playing meaningful games at end of season. It will just be fun to watch the kids all take one more step at becoming a really good team.

24 Aug 2024 18:57:53
I’m actually looking forward for this season as well.
If Liane stays healthy and Dach can stay healthy. I agree I think this team can finally make to the playoffs or at least come close and play, like playoff hockey trying to get into the playoffs. This would be great experience for the younger players. Give them a taste.
Goaltending is still a minor question. But think they’re good enough to help get the Habs to the playoffs. Beyond that. Who knows. Playoffs is a whole new season. Anything can happen.
I’m also looking forward to see the hab’s projected lines for this season.

24 Aug 2024 20:24:40
Yes goaltending is still a concern. I'm not sure who they will overtake to make the playoffs, as all the teams will be pretty strong still and others also are up an coming. But to watch the growth and possibly a push to make the playoffs, will be good. Lots has to obviously go right, like you said health will be key.

25 Aug 2024 10:54:30
MTL can’t lose on this trade. They have the cap space, and even if Laine doesn’t turn out to be a piece, they turned a glut on D into an open slot for another kid like Hutton.

If nothing else, Harris was a 3rd that they turned into 2nd.

Whether Laine becomes part of the teams future, or a rehabilitated trade chip like Monahan, the Habs have done a shrewd trade. Laine is likely on his last NHL chance too, so he has every motivation to be the best he can me.

23 Aug 2024 01:35:22
So Chevy made a surprise deal. Thought he would wait TDL. But surprise!
Don't know much about Yager except he is a center who put up 95 points last year for Moose Jaw as 19 yr old.

WPG
McGroarty
PITT
Yager

Thoughts ?

23 Aug 2024 03:48:02
I like it. Chevy made a good deal in a tough spot.

23 Aug 2024 18:08:17
I think Winninpeg did pretty good . Yager needs a little size, but he is a very dynamic player. He's a Prairie boy I believe, so he shouldn't have any issues playing in Manitoba.

23 Aug 2024 19:42:42
It was a good trade for both teams. Unlike McG Yager is too small and light to be NHL ready this season. However he seems to have a scoring touch that the Jets desperately need.

24 Aug 2024 20:26:44
@islandjet you realize a guy named Cole Perfetti plays on your team?

21 Aug 2024 06:08:42
Cal: corranato, 2nd. Nash: Askarov. I think preds would want a 1st , but a 2nd with a very young ready middle 6 guy maybe? I'd like to see the 2 best young goalies split time and figure it out later. I've seen a few different things Nashville is wanting so no idea.

22 Aug 2024 01:03:03
See where you are going with proposal but from Calgary perspective not sure giving futures away is in cards at this point.

22 Aug 2024 04:03:18
Buy out vladar and save cap, not like Calgary needs it, they could take a cap dump player also. I don't know who that would be though.

22 Aug 2024 15:22:06
Anyone know if teams can trade dead cap space? If so maybe Duchene cap space Askarov svenchkov for Anderson.

24 Aug 2024 01:43:48
Guess not 👆. Lol.

20 Aug 2024 13:19:54
MTL Trades:
Jordan Harris

CLB Trades:
Laine
2026 2nd

Man, I'm torn on this one... I'm not a fan of Laine but the 2nd is nice. He is only under contract for 2 more years, but I'm guessing we trade him before that is over... or he asks for a trade.
We didn't give up much for him so I guess I'm good with it - just not excited for it.

20 Aug 2024 13:37:50
Hmmm. I thought Montreal fans would be more excited about Laine. Good price though, because of the contract.

20 Aug 2024 17:41:55
Ya. I'm biased because I'm not a fan of his play style, but I bet there are a lot who would be excited. My guess is that the goal would be similar to a Monahan scenario - does well in a hockey city with a new crew and gains value for a trade to a playoff contender, maybe some retention to increase to a first pick somehow.

20 Aug 2024 18:25:03
He lost his scoring touch so don’t expect lots of goals but he’s probably the most underrated defensive player in the NHL. He sacrifices his body in his own end by blocking shots and taking hits. You’ll be surprised by his 2 way play and playmaking ability.

20 Aug 2024 18:57:13
I absolutely love it now that I have thought more about it and it actually happened m.

20 Aug 2024 20:52:46
Low risk move for the Habs. He finds his scoring touch and they are laughing. If he's not working out then ship him at the deadline. Still tonnes of young dmen in the system so losing Harris isn't the end of the world for them either.

21 Aug 2024 00:45:36
I believe laine will bounce back , incoming 30-40 goals ! The pp will be lethal
Slavkovsky suzuki laine
Matheson caufield

21 Aug 2024 00:52:37
Montreal now has two 1st round , three 2nd round and three 3rd round picks at 2025 draft , so big move or moves are coming! Crosby as a free agent would be wishful thinking
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov Crosby laine
Newhook dach Roy
Gallagher beck Anderson

21 Aug 2024 01:58:09
I'd like to see Laine turn it around. Hopefully he does well for you.

21 Aug 2024 06:13:19
Sidekick, you got to hope calgary doesn't finish bottom 10 or mtl gets fla 1st round. Cal finishes 11th worst is best case senerio. They finish 10 or worst, fla is gonna be 20s or maybe 30s.

16 Aug 2024 14:33:53
Calgary: McGroraty

Winnipeg: Kadri (CGY retains 40%)

16 Aug 2024 15:30:34
No chance at all that Calgary retains that much for that long or that Winnipeg considers a 34YO as the main part of a McGroarty deal.

We should probably just hold off on McGroarty deals until at least the TDL. Chevy has no reason to entertain bad deals at this point.

17 Aug 2024 19:03:31
Blues got broberg for a second pick. Nice.

20 Aug 2024 18:25:44
Flames laugh and Winnipeg would take this and run.

20 Aug 2024 19:11:17
VB……. we agree. Rare. Lol.

14 Aug 2024 20:58:22
EDM needs cap relief and some youth, so here's one option:

EDM:

- Ceci
- Kulak
- 1st (2025)

MTL:

- Harris or Struble

- No retention means EDM gets full relief for the 1 & 2 years remaining on Ceci & Kulak's deal.

- EDM gets a choice of 2 good young D that won't cost too much.

- MTL recycles some D depth and cap space for another 1st rounder next year.


There's a million ways to slice and dice EDM's situation, and help isn't going to be cheap. They're still my cup pick if they can keep Broberg and Holloway🤞

15 Aug 2024 11:48:56
Although the chance of owning another 1st might be appealing to MTL, I think, they need to give out ice time to their young D and Ceci + Kulak fills two potential spots.

Also, Ceci has had a bigger role with EDM last year and Kulak has been decent, they'd be removing much needed depth to their blue line

15 Aug 2024 18:55:12
I agree with all your points Matador 100%.

What I left out was that MTL flips them after camps when injuries or gaps in lineup present themselves.

Still, if it risked blocking a spot for a younger D to your point, it's probably better for MTL to just be a "3rd party trade facilitator. "

18 Aug 2024 16:08:42
It's not a horrible idea. I'm just wondering what Habs could flip the Oilers players for. Also, maybe see if the 1st round pick could be 26, or 27.

19 Aug 2024 16:41:44
SOSA: EDM is REALLY capped out, so whatever they do will be fascinating👍.

13 Aug 2024 15:09:46
Calgary Trades
Kadri*

Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
NRobertson (RFA)
Minton (WHL)

*Flames retain 50% of Kadri's remaining contract.

Any player in my proposal that have a NTM/NTC would have to waive to complete this transaction.


Flames truly in a both retool and rebuild will be looking towards the future, Kadri at 33 years old is a trade asset 3.5 million is a lot to retain but to move Kadri at full salary would be next to impossible, getting NRobertson and Minton is a great move in depth of young players, Kampf and Jarnkrok gives them 2 players to fill in the roster as they add to there prospect pool.

Kadri makes his way back home where it all started giving The Leafs 3 solid Centers for the upcoming season, I believe Kadri will be exactly what Treliving will be looking before the season gets going as Kadri and Tavares are close in talent wise, this proposal would help huge upfront after losing Bertuzzi to Chicago in Free Agency.


Thoughts ?

13 Aug 2024 15:30:19
16 Jul 2024 16:37:37
Colorado Trades
Future Considerations

Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok

Avalanche have the cap space with LTIR in place for next season, and need to solidify the 4th line.

Leafs get the well needed cap space to continue to change the roster that Treliving talked about.



Thoughts?

Pinballisback


1 month ago you said Kampf and Jarnkrok were worth nothing more thanbmagic beans, but now you're saying they're worth Kadri for 5 more years at a 50% discount as long as the Leafs include an RFA and an AHLer.

14 Aug 2024 15:48:35
This is a freaking pipe dream two bad players and a blah young player who gets hurt and an ok prospect why just why.

17 Aug 2024 14:29:17
redwing1
Two bad players?
If Kampf and Jarnkrok were one million less each would you still call them bad players?
The truth it's more contract related not their abilities.
NRobertson showed he is an NHLer last season and being 22 years old this is what Calgary would want.
Minton is a real prospect with a very good 2 way game and leadership qualities, He was Team Canada's JR Captain don't forget.
Kadri at soon to be 34 years old isn't The Flames future at this point, and yes retaining 3.5 million on a long term contract is a lot, but 3.5 million is still better Cap Wise long term than 7 million.

19 Aug 2024 04:12:42
You're not wrong about Kampf and Jarnkrok. They are overpaid for what they are which is bottom 6 players. But that also hurts their value quite a bit.

Robertson doesn't hold a tonne of value either at this point. He's a 3rd liner who can score you some goals occasionally. But he's injury prone.

Minten is a huge question mark for me now. Was just barely above a point a game this season in the WHL. Was hoping we'd see a bit more from him. So I don't know where his value is as I'm assuming most people are looking at him as a third line center as his ceiling which is great but again doesn't hold a tonne of value.

Kadri would be a great addition no doubt, but Calgary isn't retaining 50% on him. It's just not going to happen.