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04 Feb 2024 08:32:29
CGY - Chris Tanev (50% Salary Retained)
VAN - Aatu Raty & 2025 2nd

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04 Feb 2024 17:32:03
While I think that is decent value for Tanev, it isn't enough now. With the Lindholm and Monahan trades, teams are way overpaying. With retention, Tanev will most likely get a 1st and a mid round pick and a prospect like Raty. He's not worth it as neither Monahan or Lindholm were worth what they got.

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04 Feb 2024 20:54:54
@BarDown I agree, I’m just lowering my expectations lol

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07 Feb 2024 17:29:00
Like Bar Down, I think the market price for Tanev will turn out to be pretty high.

Given his age and skill set I’m shocked that OTT is allegedly considering trading for him. Their trajectory doesn’t seem to line up with the player’s age.

The good news is that CGY should get a nice return👍.

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03 Feb 2024 20:32:52
montreal: askarov, 2024 2nd rd pick (lowest)

nashville: 2024 1st rd pick (Mtl)


montreal secures them one of the top goalie prospects. fits their development. nashville gets a top 10 pick to help secure them an impact center.

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04 Feb 2024 10:49:52
Habs won't trade thier first, that pick will be near top 5 and Habs don't need askarov anymore, montembault is pretty decent and Jacob Fowler is our future goaltender.

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04 Feb 2024 13:25:26
You must not see how good askarov has been so far.

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04 Feb 2024 15:56:05
Maybe but that draft is strong won't waive a top 10 pick.

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07 Feb 2024 17:33:13
- Habs respectfully decline.

- The 2024 Draft is NOT considered to be a deep draft. It is considered to be 20-deep, with a steep drop off. Look for lots to late first rounders to move.

- I’d rather Fowler than Askarov. When possible, I would avoid Russian players period under the current climate for a host of reasons.

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02 Feb 2024 18:33:34
LA Trades:

- Rittich
- 2nd ('25)
- 4th ('26)

MTL Trades:

- Allen



- LA has Talbot as their starter, and desperately needs help beyond what Rittich can offer.

- Allen can help this year and next, and because the G supply is limited and demand is high, he brings a higher return due to market conditions.



"MTL still encourages teams needing cap relief to bring their garbage pending UFA contracts for some sweet, sweet cap relief at OUTRAGEOUS asset costs."

: )

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02 Feb 2024 22:24:08
I would like to see a little more. If the Kings ( which they do) are in desperate need for a other goalie., well id take advantage of that and ask for a little more. Would rather not have Big Save Dave in the deal.

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02 Feb 2024 23:18:18
I think rittich is on a roll and Talbot is a bit on a downfall.

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02 Feb 2024 23:25:27
This would be an above-market return.

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03 Feb 2024 22:13:35
makes a ton of sense for the Kings, they need more stability in net

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02 Feb 2024 18:03:15
NYI Trade:

- Matt Martin
- 1st Round Pick ('26)


MTL Trade:

- Savard



- NYI only have 2 healthy RD, and Savard is playoff-tested, big, and still has plenty shot-blocking & timely scoring in him to help them this year and next.

- MTL gets a second 1st in each of the coming 3 seasons. I see them packaging some of their extra NHL-ready yound D along with some 1st rounders to get some high-end talent up front. (They have quantity, now it's time to target some quality high-end targets.)

- Martin has been a good soldier for Lou, but he's a throw-in on this deal to make the dollars work.

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02 Feb 2024 22:26:29
No need for Martin, I dont mind this though at all.

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02 Feb 2024 23:28:20
SOSA: as I mentioned above Martin is only a salary take back to facilitate the deal, as Rittich is above. (The return to the Habs is the picks. )

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03 Feb 2024 22:14:58
I think you nailed Savard’s value in my opinion, a 1st is very reasonable.

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02 Feb 2024 13:31:42
WPG Trades:

- 2024 2nd (MTL)
- 2025 1st

MTL Trades:

- Monahan
- Kapanen


- Chevy gets the C he needs to take important faceoffs without taking from his active roster.

- MTL increases picks for draft or trade.

- MTL increases available cap space to 7.2M, and encourages all teams in need of deadline cap space to come with offers to dump their garbage for prospects & picks.

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02 Feb 2024 14:39:47
No from Winnipeg as the Jets need a 2C. Monahan isn't an upgrade over anyone in Winnipeg's top 6 and isn't good enough defensively to play in the bottom 6.

I doubt Chevy has any interest especially at that cost.

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02 Feb 2024 14:40:29
I think that the value is there but if I'm MTL, I'd prefer going for prospects instead of picks. Rebuild is going along well and a young core is being built and I think it's important for them to have a core of players that have similar age ranges, considering they already have a good amount of draft picks in the next few years. I would swap that 1st for a young promising player like Lambert, assuming a deal would be done with WPG.

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02 Feb 2024 15:34:04
Lol memarcusjoe what was that about Chevy not having any interest? 😂.

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02 Feb 2024 15:55:19
Nice chickenfoot, didn’t think Montreal was getting a 1st for Monahan. These early trades may be worth more than deadline deals. Montreal killed it with Monahan.

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02 Feb 2024 15:55:59
Well that didn't take long. Excellent return for Montreal and a disappointing trade for Winnipeg.

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02 Feb 2024 16:42:49
@memarcusjoe

Well. this reply aged well.

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02 Feb 2024 16:45:54
Well, your doubts didn't pan out as you thought. Monahan is now a Jet! For a 1st this year and a conditional 3rd in 2027 if they win the cup.

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02 Feb 2024 17:12:46
Hopefully Monahan is as good as Montreal fans say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

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02 Feb 2024 19:43:51
Pretty close value to the actual trade, well done.

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02 Feb 2024 13:01:14
New York Rangers:
- RW Kaapo Kakko ($2,100,000 pending RFA)


Detroit Red Wings:
- C/LW Robby Fabbri ($4,000,000 until 2025)
- Conditional 2024 3rd round pick (becomes 2024 2nd round pick if Detroit make the playoffs)

Drury is listening to offers for Kakko, and with Filip Chytil out for the remainder of the season, NYR will need more stability in their center depth as they push for playoffs.

Fabbri is a versatile forward that can be used at center or on the wing and can be used in a top 6/top 9 role and has another year of term on his contract after this season.

NYR have no picks in the 3rd round this year, at worst they gain a pick in the 3rd round and at best they potentially make playoffs this season with a 1st and two 2nds in the upcoming draft.

As Kakko is a former 2nd overall pick that hasn't quite performed up to the expectations that came with how high he was drafted.

I'm not quite sure what his trade value would look like at this point but I tried to look at what NYR's needs are at the moment as well as the opportunity here for Detroit to gain younger talent in the locker room while they continue to trend towards being a future contender in the next few years.

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02 Feb 2024 13:36:49
- I think this is a clever, under-the-radar kind of trade.

- It will be very interesting to see what Kakko's eventual trade value is. A trade might be just the thing to turn his career around.

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02 Feb 2024 14:14:24
I guessing depends on what NY is looking fore in return. Fabbri is, above all else, a sniper/ finisher. He has an accurate wrister with a quick release. His other attributes are OK, but nothing special.

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06 Feb 2024 13:09:07
Just looking back at some recent high draft flops like Glass, Patrick, Puuljarvi Juolevi etc, I would think that the price is too high for Kaako, considering that Fabbri is the better player.

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02 Feb 2024 11:24:09
PlayStation mode

Mtl - gallagher-allen 50 retain

EDM - Campbell

But to make it work, nashville is included in the trade

They retain 50% on both Gallagher and Campbell

For that, they receive

EDM 1st and Broberg
Mtl 2nd (Colorado) and Barron

So when Habs buy out cambpell at the end of season and EDM buyout Gally after the playoffs run or maybe the next year, Nsh absorb half of the deadcap. Make it very affordable for the 3 teams.

EDM get 2 usefully depth player and cap space

Mtl get cap space, resolve issues with the 3 goaltender situation and send Gallagher to his hometown, Cup contender.

Nsh get very interesting assets

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02 Feb 2024 12:15:02
- MTL & NSH decline.

- NSH can only retain on one more salary, so they couldn't participate fully as described in this transaction.

- the next 4 years NSH has some "Minnesota-esque" cap penalties for contract buyouts & retained salary:

. 2024-25: 11.8M
. 2025-26: 8.8M
. 2026-27: 3.55M
. 2027-28: 3.55M.

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04 Feb 2024 17:51:26
Oilers decline.

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01 Feb 2024 21:54:14
Mtl trade with la kings
Mtl sends:
Monahan ,farrel and Norlinder
For
La: kalyev and turcotte

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02 Feb 2024 02:19:06
MTL respectfully declines.

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01 Feb 2024 15:20:14
If nyr wants money monahan its gonna cost similar package van paid for lindholm!
Mtl needs to start with
Mtl ; monahan
For
Nyr lafreniere
If refused , you ask kakko and a 1st!!

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01 Feb 2024 17:13:25
I'm not sold on Kakko or Lafreniere yet. I wonder if there could be better options out there.

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01 Feb 2024 19:27:51
Both sound like solid plans👍.

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01 Feb 2024 20:57:14
Thats funny.

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01 Feb 2024 21:53:42
They gonna stick with laffy I think, this year, hes better and cost control for next year.

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01 Feb 2024 21:55:41
Post it like a week ago, Monahan and Pearson (maybe armia) half retain for kakko and a first, with what Lindholm fetch, I won't be surprised but Callum Ritchie seems interesting from ava too.

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02 Feb 2024 02:21:16
BFG: what is “ava”? (Not being smart, but I didn’t understand your post. )

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02 Feb 2024 11:07:21
Colorado*ava*avs sorry.

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02 Feb 2024 12:22:07
BFG: I'd do a trade for Ritchie for Monahan in some form or another in a heartbeat.

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02 Feb 2024 12:50:53
I would absolutely be thrilled if habs could get both lafreniere and Perrault!
I taught Perrault was the best player of the trio ( smith, Leonard,Perrault) to me he might end up being the steal of the draft! And imo lafreniere would thrive in mtl

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02 Feb 2024 13:12:58
I posted a Kakko to Detroit trade idea but as much as I'd like to see him go to Detroit, I see Kakko being a better fit in Montreal's future plans than Detroit.

Considering Montreal has an abundance of center depth to work from and are going to be shopping Monahan, I'd think Monahan and one of Montreal's two 3rd round picks would be fair (NYR dont have a 3rd round pick this season) . Monahan fits their need for a Chytil replacement and Kakko would make a great addition to a the future forward core with Suzuki, Dach, Caufield, and Slavkovsky.

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01 Feb 2024 14:41:22
Calgary Trades
Hanifin*
CTanev*

Toronto Trades
Brodie+
Liljegren
Minton (WHL)
1st Round Pick 2024
5th Round Pick 2025


*Flames retain 50% of both Hanifin and CTanev's expiring contracts.

+Brodie would have to waive his NTC to go to Calgary where his career started otherwise this proposal can't happen.


With The Flames trading ELindholm yesterday I believe there is more to happen now, it's no secret that Hanifin and CTanev's names are out there to be traded and my proposal might not be the best Calgary can possibly get but I believe it's a solid offer.

Everyone keeps saying Defence Defence when it comes to The Leafs well this proposal will do that adding 2 quality Defencemen in my proposal.


Thoughts ?

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01 Feb 2024 17:13:59
not a chance. much better offers out there with out holding back $$$.

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01 Feb 2024 17:21:44
Targeting defense is a good start!

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01 Feb 2024 19:27:46
balsam8
Please let us all know the better offers that you're claiming.

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01 Feb 2024 19:30:29
CGY respectfully declines, and will get better offers from some of the contenders who are going for it this season like VCR.

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02 Feb 2024 13:36:31
Tanev and Hanafin can both bring back better returns in separate trades. Tinkering with that proposal from Toronto I'd suggest:

Chris Tanev for

Brodie *with M-NTC being waived
Minton (WHL)
2024 1st round pick
Conditional 2024 5th round pick (becomes a 2025 3rd round pick if Toronto makes the conference finals)

But even then, this isn't Toronto's year with the questionable goaltending and lack of scoring depth. They'd be better off holding onto their 1st rounder this year and restructuring this team to be a cup contender in 2025-26.

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02 Feb 2024 15:24:23
It's not the worst offer; I think we'd be sending probably a pick or two more. I think the Flames do likely fetch a better return if dealt separately (they get more in total from seperate deals) . Like the idea of adding either of them though, especially if we can hold onto Lily in the process.

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31 Jan 2024 17:51:47
EDM - Campbell, Bourgault, 2024 1st

MON - Anderson (1.5M retained)

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31 Jan 2024 20:28:32
Oil lose 150k cap space and Montreal gain 150k with Campbell in the minors.
Oil get Anderson probably 1M overpriced but get a good RW to try up and down the lineup.
Montreal could use some more picks and prospects to speed there rebuild along.

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01 Feb 2024 03:58:15
MTL declines.

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01 Feb 2024 17:25:34
I respect your opinion Chickenfoot but I think we’re both bias towards our teams so I’m curious about anyone else’s opinion.
Montreal get a 1st and an okay French Canadian prospect for downgrading from Anderson to Campbell while not taking on any cap or term.

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01 Feb 2024 19:39:56
EBS: I’m not biased for saying I don’t want to trade Anderson. I like the player and I don’t view him as a cap dump. I just don’t want to move him, so that’s not bias.

I respect you don’t like the player and/ or see him as a cap dump. I’m 100% okay with that👍

If the deal was for another player that I saw as a cap dump I think the deal you’ve proposed would be a good framework to consider. Losing Anderson and gaining Campbell is a complete no-go for me. We just see things differently, and that’s okay, but it’s not bias.

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04 Feb 2024 17:51:23
Anderson, though overpaid, is someone you'd want to have on a young team. He'll be 32 when the team will likely be competing in the playoffs again. They don't really need the cap relief either. Only way I see him being moved is if he asks to get traded for a chance at a cup.

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04 Feb 2024 17:54:49
Has the start of something but. mtl already has too many tenders.
More pieces needed to be involved.

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