NHL rumours 4

03 Mar 2024 16:14:59
Anaheim Trades
Vatrano*

Toronto Trades
McMann
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2024
3rd Round Pick 2024

*Ducks retain 50% of Vatrano's remaining contract.


Imo makes sense for both Teams.


Thoughts ?

03 Mar 2024 17:36:37
That’s a fairly nice package but Vatrano is on pace for 40 goals on a bad team. Two playoff runs under a 2M cap hit is gonna cost a lot. Maybe if the third had a condition to turn into a 2nd/ 1st based on playoff success?

03 Mar 2024 22:03:59
Ebsolutely
Vatrano about to turn 30 years old in a few weeks having the best season of his career, imo getting a young winger in NRobertson plus a 1st and a 3rd for a rebuilding team is pretty fair for The Ducks.
McMann is on an expiring contract and a UFA after this season and I bet he signs back with The Leafs so he is more for roster size for Toronto and for Anaheim just for this season.
I think this would be a great trade for both Teams imo.

04 Mar 2024 14:43:12
Toronto is really lacking forwards.

04 Mar 2024 21:24:41
Don’t really think his age is relevant, it’s still 2 years of him in his prime. I agree I think this is a big package for him I just thought considering the season he’s having, the cap hit/ term that the 3rd could be conditional. Keep McMann.

05 Mar 2024 16:12:28
NYR likely makes an aggressive offer for Vatrano that I don't think we'd be able to compete with.

03 Mar 2024 14:04:06
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*

Toronto Trades
Gregor
Grebyonkin (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2024 or 2026 (Sens choice)

*Sens retain 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.


I have brainstormed many different ideas of what if anything The Leafs could do before the deadline, I believe there is one more move to make to improve the forward group.



Thoughts ?

01 Mar 2024 16:56:51
Leafs Deadline deal

1. Washington: Jensen and Dowd (50% retained) For 2024 1st 3rd NYI, Timmins, voit and Niemala

Bertuzzi Matthews Robertson
Jarnkrok Domi Nylander
Knies Tavares Marner
Dowd Kampf Mcmann

Reilly Jensen
Brodie Liligrin
McCabe Benoit
Lybushkin
* Gio LTIR *

Woll
Samsonov
Jones


To Explain the Roster shift.

Marner and Matthews is to predictable as they will get shut down so they should diversfy the lines and have Tavares and Brodie more realistic roles. Also will have one extra Goalie and defencemen to rotate in and out.

01 Mar 2024 18:33:12
It's important note only dowd is 50% retained for the deal.

02 Mar 2024 19:55:13
we just traded for lyubushkin and your already benching him until an injury. nty.

02 Mar 2024 19:58:26
A 1st for those 2 is steep. Maybe Simplify it to Timmons, Volt and 1st for the two. But I don’t think these 2 will require a 1st but that’s a trade I wouldn’t hate as a leafs fan.

02 Mar 2024 21:04:38
seems like an overpayment from TOR

01 Mar 2024 14:40:56
Ottawa Trades
Tarasenko*
6th Round Pick 3024

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
McMann
1st Round Pick 2024

*Ottawa retains 50% of Tarasenko's expiring contract.


For Toronto they add upfront that can only help for the playoffs, NRobertson and McMann have played well enough that they have trade value, adding the 1st Rounder Ottawa would insist on because of the retention.

For Ottawa it's another year out of the playoffs and they will be shipping out players on expiring contracts like Tarasenko and looking towards the future, in my proposal The Sens get 2 forwards that will give them some more depth at The NHL level plus a 1st Rounder.


Thoughts ?

01 Mar 2024 20:33:58
Tarasenko is not needed. Rather the pick and the younger players.

02 Mar 2024 19:56:41
tarasenko has been one of my targets all season, he has the tools needed to do well in the playoffs.

02 Mar 2024 19:58:49
Senko doesn’t return a 1st.

03 Mar 2024 14:10:07
Toronto doesn't need a scoring forward they need defensive depth.

05 Mar 2024 16:14:44
Tarasenko may fetch a first if it becomes a bidding war for his services. Otherwise return is likely a prospect and a 2nd.

01 Mar 2024 00:57:36
NJD - Vanacek, Holtz, 2025 2nd, 2024 3rd

BOS - Ulmark.

01 Mar 2024 12:43:57
the rumoured package for Markstrom was Holtz + 1st + another asset (not named Vanecek) with some retention on Markstrom but the deal fell through cause the Flames wanted another asset on top of it for the retention. so I think the Bruins say no on this one.

01 Mar 2024 15:26:31
I don’t believe the Flames would turn down a 1st, Holtz + for Markstrom. Bruins are also in more of a position to trade Ulmark. They have to pay Swayman this offseason and Ulmark only has this and next on his contract.

01 Mar 2024 17:36:34
They turned it down because it’s a weak draft, that’s why they turned down 1st + Ceci from EDM for Tanev and 1st from DAL for Tanev.

01 Mar 2024 20:27:56
The Flames are selling everyone for picks. Are they going to be better next year? Should have traded Markstrom when his value is high considering the market and his play at this time. The rumour is they turned down the better pick from Edmonton because they didn’t want to take salary back right? Questionable move IMO.

02 Mar 2024 20:00:11
I think Markstrom is better than Ullmark. Ullmark and Swayman stats are clearly inflated due to the bruins being so good.

03 Mar 2024 17:38:46
Don’t think he’d still be a good target for the Devils? Bruins can do a quick retool and Ulmark is the most moveable.

29 Feb 2024 13:44:36
Time for Oilers to Trade Bouchard !!!

Option for replacement;
NYI - Noah Dobson

Could a trade be made here ??

29 Feb 2024 15:17:48
Don't think the Isles move Dobson. One of the best well rounded dmen in the league currently. He's probably there for the foreseeable future.

29 Feb 2024 15:25:51
Sweet Lou loves Dobson, who is a potential Norris candidate this season or very soon. I haven't such an effortless skater in recent memory. A few strides and he's down the ice. Very impressive to see at ice level.

29 Feb 2024 07:19:14
Habs-allen

Anh- Henrique


Col- Oskar olausson-behrens-1st pick col 2025- 4thpick 2025-joahnsen


Anh retain half on Allen,henrique

Habs-4th pick col

Anh- olausson-behrens-1st pick- Johansen

Col- henrique-allen

I've seen this rumors but with Callum Ritchie , pretty sure avs don't want to part ways with Ritchie so I swap him with olausson and swap the 3rd for a fourth seems more fair

Mtl- armia half retain- 4 the pick col

La - kaliev

29 Feb 2024 03:33:07
Tanev gone but now hanifan to Carolina for D'Angelo, 1st and Anderson and flames trade with la involving markstrom and gavrikov

29 Feb 2024 03:55:08
Dangelo I’m guessing is a no, ufa and has stated won’t play in Canada. Not sure Anderson is wanted either. Why would Gavrikov be involved to old for what seems to be flames plan.

29 Feb 2024 04:07:45
Markstrom gone gives Anderson a splitting share and hanifan kinda has flames hands tied so a first and a couple replacement players maybe best they can do. Offensive and defensive d to somewhat offset there losses this year and frees up money for futures.

29 Feb 2024 04:10:21
Gavrikov and Anderson signed through next year to. Find a place for vladar this offseason if at all possible.

29 Feb 2024 01:19:01
After season. If rumours are true petterson and van are having difficulty, so to Chicago for 2024 1st(tb) , 2025 1st(Chicago) 2025 1st(tor). Big jump for both but if petterson doesn't wanna resign, throwing it out there.

29 Feb 2024 15:29:43
If VCR can't work out a deal with Petterson, and they actually did trade him, they'd want a player who can help them now for a Cup run instead of futures, IMHO.

29 Feb 2024 16:16:19
From what I've seen an 8yr. deal is imminent and likely to be signed in the coming days so Pettersson can stay a Canuck. If things fall through then I'm assuming whoever is making a trade to get him will get to discuss an extension before hand and the return will be astronomical.

28 Feb 2024 20:14:52
Seattle Trades
Larsson*
6th Round Pick 2024

Toronto Trades
Timmons
Hildeby (AHL)
Grebyonkin (KHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

*Kraken retain 50% of Larsson's remaining contract.



Thoughts ?

29 Feb 2024 01:46:07
- This the same trade you posted yesterday, except you swapped AHL player you included.

- Do you seriously think it makes a difference whether you have Hildeby instead of Abruzzese?

- I don’t think Ronnie Francis looks at this and goes, “wow…Hildeby? We are DEFINITELY doing this deal NOW! ”.

29 Feb 2024 03:20:54
Chickenfoot
Seattle an expansion team only a few years ago has no serious prospect depth.
Look at the ages of all the goaltenders at The NHL and AHL level, Hildeby will be a stud goaltender because of Woll he is expendable.
Timmons is out now but will be more a next season defenceman for Seattle, Grebyonkin is a good prospect and adding a 1st Round Pick only helps for the future.
Why do you think a team like Seattle wouldn't want prospect depth?
Larsson is good but this isn't an AllStar they are trading.
We can agree to disagree but Ron Francis knows you build by having prospects and draft picks, minus a few players the entire organization has castoffs from other teams and not very many prospects.
So your logic again makes no sense.

29 Feb 2024 10:29:18
Don't think you see GMs take a chance on a guy like Grebyonkin until they see what he looks like playing on NA sized ice and how adjust to the different style of play. Obviously the potential is there for him to be an offensive NHLer, but his defensive game needs work and lots of it.

Hidleby has great numbers in the AHL and it is unfortunate Keefe didn't give him a game or two when he was up with us to see how he would fair. If he's going to be a "stud goalie" why are we trading him when goaltending is an area of weakness for us?

29 Feb 2024 12:31:07
MG69
Because Woll is our Goaltender going forward, plus Toronto has Peksa and Akhtyomov as future Goaltender prospects.
Toronto is actually deep with Goaltender prospects so Hildeby is expendable, and Seattle has no serious Goaltending prospects.
That's why for both Teams.

29 Feb 2024 13:27:43
We would be foolish to put all our eggs in the Woll basket. He's looked good in a small sample size there's no denying that, but until I see him log 40+ games in the season and put up good numbers I'm not willing to say that's our guy. If Hildeby is as good as we are hoping why would you not want to hold onto him and run a tandem of Woll and Hildeby rather than find a stop gap backup year after year? The other two you mentioned are probably 3-4 years away from potentially being able to compete for an NHL job. Seattle has 8 picks this upcoming draft and that's without any trades yet to potentially happen. They can easily grab a couple goalie prospects this draft.

You were onto something when you suggested a guy like Rutta or Brown. And thankfully Tanev didn't go for what I and most others thought he would go for so the odds of it costing a tonne to get a player like that went down. Larsson would be a great add, but Francis doesn't need to move him and can hold onto him till they get the deal they want which I don't think will be this. Rather hold onto our 1st and get another prospect (since we have very few of them) and see where we are at in the summer.

29 Feb 2024 15:34:05
PINBALL: Thanks for the unintentionally hilarious lesson in how to build a team. that was awesome! It's always notable to be condescended to and insulted by someone with your hockey acumen. You're on fire today Pinball!

03 Mar 2024 00:32:37
Seattle drafts a goalie in the 2nd round, back in 2022, then pinball claims Seattle has no goalie prospects.
You can't make this stuff up.

04 Mar 2024 15:50:15
@Renidrag I find it more ironic he's talking about Seattle having no prospect depth when we (the Leafs) don't either lol.

28 Feb 2024 03:35:58
Cal: tanev, hanifan 50% both. Dal: faska, lundkvist,kyrou, 2 first, 2 3rds. Tanev and hanifan should get a 1st and a young player or prospect, then 3rds for retention. Faska makes money work. Read Dallas has talked about getting both. Anywhere close?

28 Feb 2024 17:06:50
SHOOTS: wow, that's an aggressive play, and it totally works for both sides! This is a really interesting and realistic one Shoots! Nill is the kind of guy to be quiet for a long time and then pull something major if he finds it. Interesting stuff!

29 Feb 2024 01:21:16
Maybe 4ths cause faska is a decent player to get back.

29 Feb 2024 03:06:14
Guess not. 😂.

29 Feb 2024 03:24:35
Well got Dallas right i guess, kyrou the offensive d, grushnikov the defensive d so was close, 2nd and 3rd with no retention.

29 Feb 2024 15:35:27
Shoots: it was an excellent proposal, and you were obviously on to something.

29 Feb 2024 15:50:48
What how does kyrou work into this lmfao.

01 Mar 2024 11:06:16
REDWING: what’s your question regarding Kyrou’s inclusion?