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09 Feb 2024 19:43:49
TAM Trades:

- Howard
- 1st ('26)
- 2nd ('25)
- 3rd ('24)
- Myers (UFA/minor cap dump)
- Fleury (
- Shalagin (Unsigned)

OTT Trades:

- Chychrun
- Tarasenko (UFA/50% retention)


- TAM pays a price to replace Sergachev
- TAM includes some contracts to create contract space.
- Sergachev's injury creates the need and the cap space to do it.
- TAM will need to send one waiver exempt player to make the 23-man roster limit.
- OTT gets picks and the Bolts top prospect
- OTT recycles 2 guys not in their future plans for futures.

Chickenfoot

1.) 14 Feb 2024 18:04:34
So much wrong with this I don't know where to start?

For one who's Howard? Are you talking former Detroit Goalie Howard? If so Ottawa don't need a goalie.

For 2 Tampas picks aren't high enough to mean anything here

For 3 Chychrun ain't going anywhere, Chabot is more likely to be traded than Chychrun is, he litteraly already put the kaboosh on those dumb rumors.

And for 4 why is Ottawa retaining anything, let alone 50% on Taresenko when they are already taking back cap hit on Myers and Howard (if it is the goalie)? Ottawa don't have the space for that.


2.) 15 Feb 2024 01:39:07
Hahahaha…Howard is Tampa’s top prospect, not a goalie. ?.


 

 

02 Feb 2024 18:33:34
LA Trades:

- Rittich
- 2nd ('25)
- 4th ('26)

MTL Trades:

- Allen



- LA has Talbot as their starter, and desperately needs help beyond what Rittich can offer.

- Allen can help this year and next, and because the G supply is limited and demand is high, he brings a higher return due to market conditions.



"MTL still encourages teams needing cap relief to bring their garbage pending UFA contracts for some sweet, sweet cap relief at OUTRAGEOUS asset costs."

: )

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 22:24:08
I would like to see a little more. If the Kings ( which they do) are in desperate need for a other goalie., well id take advantage of that and ask for a little more. Would rather not have Big Save Dave in the deal.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 23:18:18
I think rittich is on a roll and Talbot is a bit on a downfall.


3.) 02 Feb 2024 23:25:27
This would be an above-market return.


4.) 03 Feb 2024 22:13:35
makes a ton of sense for the Kings, they need more stability in net


 

 

02 Feb 2024 18:03:15
NYI Trade:

- Matt Martin
- 1st Round Pick ('26)


MTL Trade:

- Savard



- NYI only have 2 healthy RD, and Savard is playoff-tested, big, and still has plenty shot-blocking & timely scoring in him to help them this year and next.

- MTL gets a second 1st in each of the coming 3 seasons. I see them packaging some of their extra NHL-ready yound D along with some 1st rounders to get some high-end talent up front. (They have quantity, now it's time to target some quality high-end targets.)

- Martin has been a good soldier for Lou, but he's a throw-in on this deal to make the dollars work.

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 22:26:29
No need for Martin, I dont mind this though at all.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 23:28:20
SOSA: as I mentioned above Martin is only a salary take back to facilitate the deal, as Rittich is above. (The return to the Habs is the picks. )


3.) 03 Feb 2024 22:14:58
I think you nailed Savard’s value in my opinion, a 1st is very reasonable.


 

 

02 Feb 2024 13:31:42
WPG Trades:

- 2024 2nd (MTL)
- 2025 1st

MTL Trades:

- Monahan
- Kapanen


- Chevy gets the C he needs to take important faceoffs without taking from his active roster.

- MTL increases picks for draft or trade.

- MTL increases available cap space to 7.2M, and encourages all teams in need of deadline cap space to come with offers to dump their garbage for prospects & picks.

Chickenfoot

1.) 02 Feb 2024 14:39:47
No from Winnipeg as the Jets need a 2C. Monahan isn't an upgrade over anyone in Winnipeg's top 6 and isn't good enough defensively to play in the bottom 6.

I doubt Chevy has any interest especially at that cost.


2.) 02 Feb 2024 14:40:29
I think that the value is there but if I'm MTL, I'd prefer going for prospects instead of picks. Rebuild is going along well and a young core is being built and I think it's important for them to have a core of players that have similar age ranges, considering they already have a good amount of draft picks in the next few years. I would swap that 1st for a young promising player like Lambert, assuming a deal would be done with WPG.


3.) 02 Feb 2024 15:34:04
Lol memarcusjoe what was that about Chevy not having any interest? ?.


4.) 02 Feb 2024 15:55:19
Nice chickenfoot, didn’t think Montreal was getting a 1st for Monahan. These early trades may be worth more than deadline deals. Montreal killed it with Monahan.


5.) 02 Feb 2024 15:55:59
Well that didn't take long. Excellent return for Montreal and a disappointing trade for Winnipeg.


6.) 02 Feb 2024 16:42:49
@memarcusjoe

Well. this reply aged well.


7.) 02 Feb 2024 16:45:54
Well, your doubts didn't pan out as you thought. Monahan is now a Jet! For a 1st this year and a conditional 3rd in 2027 if they win the cup.


8.) 02 Feb 2024 17:12:46
Hopefully Monahan is as good as Montreal fans say, but I'm not getting my hopes up.


9.) 02 Feb 2024 19:43:51
Pretty close value to the actual trade, well done.


 

 

28 Jan 2024 17:43:21
MTL Trades:

- Gallagher (25% retained)
- Primeau
- Norlinder

EDM Trades:

- Campbell
- Bourgault
- 1st ('25)


- EDM gets two guys who can play now.

- EDM gets depth in net and at forward.

- Gally gets to come home and refocus his game on a true contender.

- EDM gets rid of the Campbell contract AND adds to their team, while keeping their 1st in 2024 for another move if needed.


- MTL does right by Gally, sending him home to a contender, so that he can play meaningful games again.

- MTL & EDM exchange prospects that no one values especially highly, but wouldn't want to lose for nothing.

- MTL scan but out or bury Campbell in the minors, without any of the guilt of doing it to a good soldier like Gally.

- MTL gives some future in Norlinder to secure the 1st, while freeing up prospect space on D.

Chickenfoot

1.) 28 Jan 2024 20:40:44
i doubt montreal accepts the trade. just not enough to justify campbell's contract.


2.) 28 Jan 2024 22:10:43
Regarding the Campbell contract, MTL is one of the teams in the unique position to make it work to their advantage.

3 Options Include:

1. Campbell’s salary in the minors is only 3.85M for the next 3 years.

2. The Habs aren’t even using all the LTIR cap relief from the Price contract, which provides ample relief in its next two years. (His contract of 10.5M is on the books the next 2 seasons. )

3. if the Habs wanted to they could buy out Campbell’s contract for 1.1, 2.3, 2.6, 1.5, 1.5 & 1.5. (6-year buyout)

- If it were me, I’d utilize option #1, and be done with it in 3 years. Cap space isn’t an issue in MTL with where they’re at as a rebuilding team, and they’re available LTIR the next 2 years.

- If they need cap space in year 3 the cost for relief in trade will be a lot less that it will be this year in a capped-out league.

- Campbell can be the 3rd-string vet they can use as a veteran backup in the need of a call-up, or send him to the ECHL if he’s blocking a development space.

This provides EDM with contract relief & depth they need, and it works for MTL too. A “win-win” that addresses the needs of two teams, unlike the steady stream of leaf-friendly deals that we see here far too often.


3.) 29 Jan 2024 06:29:45
Not much of a point for EDM to add there 1st and Bourgault when they get that bad of a contract back. 50% retained sure, otherwise they may as well keep the picks and buy Campbell out.

If it costs Edmonton a 1st and 3rd to trade Campbell it cost Montreal a 1st to trade Gallagher at 5M.


4.) 29 Jan 2024 14:44:08
- Everyone knows Bourgault & Primeau are available, and I suspect neither team will get what they originally thought they’d get. Thus the saw-off in this deal.

- Campbell isn’t even an AHL asset anymore. Gally has tread left on his tire, and EDM needs depth up front and in net. This trade addresses all of that.

- A summer buyout of Campbell doesn’t help them when they need it most: now. This may be their last season with Draisaitl, so it’s now or never.


5.) 29 Jan 2024 15:31:16
Gallagher at 5M hurts them more than Campbell buyout of 1.5-2.5 does. Not that it matters but Campbell has been playing well in the AHL.


6.) 29 Jan 2024 18:01:52
Also the Oilers have a vet Pickard playing good hockey, Primeau would probably have to be sent down and I’m guessing he’d have to pass through waivers?


7.) 29 Jan 2024 18:43:24
I’m willing to bet the farm that Kenny knows he needs a better insurance option than Pickard.

This team needs to make the most of this offseason. As soon as this season is over then the questions will be loud about what to do with Draisaitl.

One thing is for sure: Kenny will be the most interesting GM to watch going into the deadline IMHO. ?.


8.) 29 Jan 2024 20:31:13
Definitely a good idea to get an upgrade in net but Primeau isn’t it.


9.) 30 Jan 2024 02:41:07
I would agree with you that Primeau isn’t the answer, but on balance, EDM achieves multiple objectives in this deal to my eyes.

With cap space at a premium, and with the availability of options and asset cost in a capped-out league, I stand by this being a balanced move to address multiple areas of need. Waiting to buy out Campbell in the summer just isn’t good enough if this is the last season with Drai, IMHO.


10.) 30 Jan 2024 14:01:59
Coughing up that retained contract on Gallagher handcuffs Edmonton a lot and offsets the cap space gained by trading away Campbell. My guess is something close to a 50% retention would be a lot more enticing for Edmonton. With the cap reportedly going up a lot in the next few years, MTL will have a lot more flexibility going forward, even with retention on his contract for a few years. Also, by the end of 2025, they'll have more than 5M in dead cap freed from the retention of Petry and Edmundson's contracts and on top of that Alzner's buyout.


11.) 30 Jan 2024 19:50:47
Excellent post Matador.

I see Gally and EDM being a fit, and being good for each other.

You may be right about retaining 50% rather than 25% on Gally, but you have to remember that it's about striking the right balance between asset and cap values. 25% seemed like a good balance considering the Campbell contract coming back the other way, and the fact that Gally can still play if the cap hit is adjusted.

I just can't imagine a more generous offer for Campbell than this, but maybe Kenny will do something that will blow us all away? (Kenny seems primed for a big surprise! )


12.) 01 Feb 2024 15:02:01
Wont be surprised at all if Edmonton maybe adds Jones for a late round draft pick once Woll comes back. He's had some good games for the Leafs, he'd be a good vet to backup Skinner. I'd love for the Leafs to hold onto him, but there's no one lining up to take Samsonov from us so ?.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2023 14:32:19
Off-Season Bobrovsky Contract Options:

CAP HIT: Next 3 seasons at 10M/year.

TRADE: less likely, given FLA has already traded their next three 1st-round picks, and moving it wouldn't be cheap.

BUYOUT: to buy out the next 3 years it would create a cap hit of 6.666M for 3 years, plus 3 more years at 1.666M. Ugly, but necessary. Bob's game is structurally unsound and at 35 to start next season he's unlikely to be able to change some of his bad habits. (i.e. side to side movement.)

The buyout is ugly, but why waste one more season of this team's core? (At least it's better than the MIN buyout.)

Like Buckley's, it will taste awful, but it will work (better) than status quo.

Chickenfoot

1.) 17 Jan 2023 19:07:46
3 years of saving 3.4M then 3 years of only 1.6M isn’t actually that bad. They don’t really have any expiring contracts so maybe they wait one more season with him?


 

 

09 Aug 2022 13:11:34
I'm curious how WPG fans assess PLD's trade value. (Full respect WPG fans - sorry to bring this up.)

I respect Jets' fans and I hope they get good value for him in the way Treliving with Gaudreau.

Given that PLD will have to wait 2 years to "possibly" sign with MTL, and the fact that every NHL team now knows his preferred spot, his in-season trade value is impacted. It seems like the best chance to trade him is as a deadline rental. (For several reasons I don't see MTL as a logical trading partner.)

At the Trade Deadline I can see a max value for PLD as a 1st and a 2nd or a good prospect. At the least I see a 1st.

I'm curious how WPG fans see this ending. Island Jet, you're a legit WPG fan and a prudent/realistic observer. How do you see the PLD saga concluding, and where do you gauge the return?

(My apologies if this posts twice. I posted yesterday but perhaps something went wrong on my end?).

Chickenfoot

1.) 09 Aug 2022 15:08:53
I believe that if the Jets can't sign PLD by the trade deadline the Jets have 3 options.
1. trade him around the new year to a team that has a young skilled player that needs a change 1 for 1. Similar to the Laine trade.
2. trade him at the deadline in which they will get a couple of prospects and draft choices. This is a future trade if the Jets believe they need a do a rebuild.
3 trade him at the draft where they will get the best return of a top end player, A prospect and/ or high draft pick.


2.) 10 Aug 2022 05:08:18
I think assuming he is dead set on signing with the habs is ignorant. I’m sure if a team like Tampa has the cap room he’d consider there in a few years.


 

 

08 Aug 2022 16:55:44
Just to change the subject a little.?.I'm curious about what WPG fans think about PLD's trade value.

First and foremost, I respect WPG fans, and I want them to have a great season and get a fair deal for the PLD asset.

Given that PLD is an RFA this coming June, and a UFA the following June, and given his interest in landing in MTL eventually, his value seems to be that of a pure deadline rental. Whoever gets him knows they're unlikely to re-sign him.

I doubt the Habs will trade for him. It's not the right fit for a few reasons. Therefore, if true Cup contender is looking for a 2C-3C for a playoff run this year and next, I suspect his max-value is:

1st & 2nd

or

1st & decent prospect

What do you think Jets fans? What will he bring, and when will he be traded?

Chickenfoot

1.) 08 Aug 2022 18:59:18
I would like to see the Jets trade him 1 for 1 to a team that needs a change from one of their young, top end centre/ wingers. This type of trade can happen anytime by January or at the draft. If the Jets trade PLD at the deadline they will get A prospects and/ or high draft picks.
I would like to see them get a 1 for 1 top end player but if PLD doesn't sign long term before the deadline then he has to go by the draft.


2.) 09 Aug 2022 13:24:50
PLD's minimum value at the TDL in two years is a first and a good prospect.

So, if he is moved now, you would need to pay for those extra two years and would need to add probably either another good prospect or a young top 6 player.

Most likely nothing happens until next summer unless Chevy gets a too good to be true offer.


 

 

 

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26 Feb 2024 10:07:35
Read the feedback Pinball. It’s not bias against your leafs when your fellow leaf fans are saying your trades are unrealistic.

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26 Feb 2024 10:03:42
- I agree that MTL will need to move some of their young D that they’ve developed, and that Harris is one of the likely candidates.

- I think Harris easily has top-4 potential, and I don’t see Turcotte as enough of a return for Harris. With so many teams needing cheap young D, I see Harris yielding more than Turcotte.

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25 Feb 2024 17:03:33
PINBALL…no…I do not recall what a posted a year ago…get some perspective man…?

- The Trade Deadline is not a “Telethon in support of sending the leafs to the 2nd round”.

- Surely you are aware that most think your trades are outrageously one sided?

- 99% of your trade proposals are strictly “Make a Wish” nonsense.

- Post something good and positive feedback will follow, and stop being so darn whiney and defensive.

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25 Feb 2024 16:54:34
- I firmly believe Gally would jump at the chance to play in EDM, and that he’d be a great depth add at the right cap hit.

- a MTL 1st for seems steep, but it may well be market value for this deadline.

- Good one BFG?.

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24 Feb 2024 14:12:34
HAHAHA…Pinball chiding someone on their hockey knowledge? ??

You can’t make this stuff up.

Facelift is right. Pinball is wrong, and will be very disappointed that the trades he’s envisioning won’t be anywhere close to what eventually happens at the trade deadline. The leafs don’t have the trade capital to make big moves, and will be planning modest upgrades where they make sense. Treliving is a smart hockey man.

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