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06 Dec 2023 04:52:49
Edmonton: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, Philip Broberg, 1st 2024 and 2nd 2026

Philly: Future Considerations

Edmonton gains 5 million of cap space and Holloway and Broberg haven't looked great

Philly takes on dead cap that'll last for 7 years post buyout but gets 2 solid prospects and 2 high picks for there rebuild. Holloway is built for flyers hockey.


1.) 06 Dec 2023 14:40:24
Edmonton's 1st isn't in play without an asset coming back.

2.) 06 Dec 2023 18:27:38
Wow VB………that just might be the worst trade posted on here. ??.

3.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:14
3.85M in the minors for Campbell. I’d rather keep him down there for another season then think about a buyout over doing this.

4.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:37
Or pay extra to add Hart.

5.) 08 Dec 2023 00:26:50
In order to get out of the Campbell contract the oilers will need to pay a kings ransom.

6.) 09 Dec 2023 00:01:41
Vb is a bit dense and doesn’t realize worse contracts exist and wouldn’t cost this much to move. Buyouts are an option….

7.) 09 Dec 2023 05:48:34
No team wants 7 years of dead cap via buyout. There is no worse contract. Campbell is literally 5 million of dead cap. He is not a nhl caliber player.

8.) 09 Dec 2023 16:58:55
I agree probably no team would buy him out this offseason. Might have to have him buried in the AHL for another. 3.85M dead cap for another year then a 4 year buyout cost of 1.5M. Straight up it would take a lot to dump but I think taking back a contract would help the cost. Binnington/ Merzlikins maybe.

9.) 10 Dec 2023 03:29:14
Binnington would be the most likely route imo.

Campbell, Broberg and a unprotected 1st 2024 for Binnington.

10.) 11 Dec 2023 08:00:57
Gibson in Anaheim would be sweet too.



02 Dec 2023 17:23:00
Toronto: Chris Tanev 50% retained

Calgary: Roni Hirovinen, NYI 3rd round pick and Calgarys 5th round pick ( leafs own it )

I believe Tanev will be a leaf by the deadline and I feel like the return will be similar to this. Most will say it's not enough but this is the typical going rate for comparable dman with the flat cap.


1.) 03 Dec 2023 02:24:39
I think you’re right honestly

2.) 04 Dec 2023 15:29:44
Hirovinen can’t even get the call on a beat up not so good Leaf’s d. No thx on him.

3.) 04 Dec 2023 17:14:12
Well he probably hasn’t got a call up on the leafs d because he’s a centre lol.

4.) 04 Dec 2023 17:23:20
@Nashan you know Hirovienen is a forward right? Based on the cap and what some other players was are fetching, I'd say this will pretty close. Could see potentially a higher pick (not a first) if there becomes a bidding war.

5.) 04 Dec 2023 19:20:19
Thx MG. Must have been looking at one of the Fin defencemen. my bad. Still wouldn’t want him lol.

6.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:20
@Nasher probably thinking of Niemela or Kokkonen

7.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:31
@Nashan* oops



29 Nov 2023 17:55:59
Nashville- Jusso Saros

New Jersey- Vitek Vanecek and Nemec

Nashville- passes the tourch onto Askarov and gets a potential number 1 dman to build around in Nemec.

New Jersey- there goaltending has been awful and with Saros in net they get a top 5 goalie in the league who's still young.


1.) 01 Dec 2023 01:10:40
You'd have to add a first + for saros.

2.) 01 Dec 2023 01:24:13
Goalies don’t typically hold that kind of value. The most a goalie has ever been traded for was the 9th overall pick in the 2012? NHL draft and he was the 23 year old goalie who surpassed Roberto Loulongo coming off of a Olympic gold medal win as the starter.

Goalies=NFL Kicker of NHL

Nemec a 2nd overall pick last year is enough for Saros imo.



16 Nov 2023 21:54:01
Lindholm and Tanev both 50% retained.


Kulak, McLeod , 2 1sts, 3 2nds, Bourgault, Campbell, Lavoie

Lindholm for 1st and 2nd
Tanev for Kulak, McLeod 2nd
To take Campbell- 1st,2nd, Bourgault, Lavoie


1.) 16 Nov 2023 23:36:37
wow. that's a lot for 2 UFAs.

2.) 17 Nov 2023 00:26:03
Edmonton also gets out of a awful Campbell contract.

3.) 17 Nov 2023 14:23:43
I guess I would be somewhat surprised if EDM & CGY come together on a major trade.

They’ve made 3 smaller ones in their history, but I think it would be challenging to complete a transformative trade with your provincial rival.

4.) 17 Nov 2023 15:26:46
Campbell and a 1st/ 2nd for Markstrom. Lol same style as the Lucic Neal trade.

5.) 18 Nov 2023 15:31:45
Except Lucic and Neal were serviceable NHLers and Campbell isn’t even a serviceable AHLer. Markstrom is also better then all 3. 4 1sts is the price to dump Campbell.

6.) 19 Nov 2023 15:22:12
No team would ever trade 4 1st over buying him out. Lol.

7.) 19 Nov 2023 17:58:13
No contender wants dead cap space of a buy out his buy out is long enough for rebuilders to cause an issue down the road. Oilers are in a tough spot.

8.) 19 Nov 2023 20:50:48
- Agree with EBS.

- Some rosters just have too many mistakes to fix with trades, buyouts or both.

- A hard cap means there’s less room for error than ever.

- Eventually you get to a point where you can’t fill one hole without creating another.



12 Sep 2023 20:09:35
Toronto: Nick Robertson

LA: Alex Turcotte

Both have had unfortunate injuries that set back their development. Robertson has produced a little more but Turcotte is a C and has the draft Pedigree. Leafs need C depth and LA needs winger depth.


1.) 13 Sep 2023 06:13:09
That's actually a pretty fair deal, however I could see the Kings saying no due to how high Turcotte was drafted. Maybe they're willing to be more patient with him but it is a very fair trade.

2.) 18 Sep 2023 18:28:24
They both terribly injury prone but turcotte has always been the much better player. If they both had a change of scenery and were healthy, Toronto would win this trade by a mile.

3.) 19 Sep 2023 18:03:10
Turcotte when he has played post draft year has not looked better then Robertson at all. Turcotte has 0 Points in NHL and awful AHL stats.

4.) 19 Sep 2023 22:47:30
Vbb, I'm gonna say turcotte has his turn this year. how about McMichael from Washington. Robertson and him were neck and neck in ppg in ohl and he hasn't panned out.




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25 Mar 2024 01:58:00
I don't think the pens can compete with their old core the currently have. If these players were willing to waive what could the Pens get for-

Crosby (Colorado is probably the only other team he'd go to)


1.) 26 Mar 2024 16:05:12
Crosby may waive for the Habs as well. If he's content with bot winning a cup and more so wants to closer to family and play for his childhood team.

Crosby likely returns a top 6/ 9 player, mid/ high end prospect, a 1st and likely a conditional 1st as well.

Malkin likely gets a mid level prospect and a 1st or 2nd. More likely the 2nd though

Rust likely brings back a mid level prospect, a 1st, and a 3rd. He's still only 31. Can play center and the wing and makes just over $5mill. Probably brings in maybe another prospect or pick if money is retained.

Letang is a tough one cause when he's healthy he's a very solid dman and still shows he can give you top pairing minutes and production. But his health is a big concern. I'd say it's likely a mid level prospect and a 2nd or 3rd for him. Maybe a 1st if money is retained or if a team really wants him.

Karlsson is likely a similar return as Letang. That cap hit is just nuts.

2.) 27 Mar 2024 10:32:27
I think you’re off on Malkin. He’s still a 1C and has that cup pedigree I think he nets a good return if he gives a list of teams. If he is picky then that return makes sense.

3.) 27 Mar 2024 11:33:15
He's just slowed down a tonne. Still has a tonne of skill and gets hot for streaks. Just inconsistent, which is to be expected when you're at his age. Definitely could still be a 1C, but not many teams in need of one, especially contending ones.

4.) 30 Mar 2024 23:06:07
Any contender would take Malkin then shuffle around there team to make the cap work imo.

5.) 31 Mar 2024 02:55:35
For sure no doubt in my mind they would. I was more leading to the likely hood of him being a 1C on a contending team would be low. More likely you see him as the 2C or moved to the wing on a contending team. Still a great player; father time definitely showing his signs on him though and his movement/ trade clause would play a big factor into what his return would ultimately be.



12 Mar 2024 19:11:35
Idk who's more delusional Pinball posting the awful Dumba to leafs trades or Chickenfoot saying Arizona declines.

Dumba and a 7th for a 2025 5th was what he went for incase someone missed it which I wouldn't blame them because he's irrelevant.


1.) 13 Apr 2024 14:20:20
Is this not the place to make trade proposals and receive feedback? Quit your whining!



06 Mar 2024 23:09:04
Deadline predictions-

Lindholm- Boston

Debrusk- Pittsburgh

Guzentzel- Vancouver/Carolina

Zucker- Vancouver/Carolina

DeAngelo and Edmonston- Toronto (Hopefully Ryan Johanson)

Markstrom- NJ (Vancek in deal)


1.) 08 Mar 2024 01:35:01
I think Toffoli heads to Vancouver now.



22 Nov 2023 19:30:30
What happened to Matt Dumba? Only 30 and went from a top 4 guy to the absolute worst player in the NHL? I don't even think he'd be good the AHL at this point.


1.) 24 Nov 2023 23:02:19
Is he really that bad? I honestly haven't seen alot of him. I do remember not so long ago, he was a really good 2 way Dman, capable of highlight reel body checks here and there. How has his game regressed? He can't be worse than Klingberg?

2.) 25 Nov 2023 21:46:55
Klingberg can QB a PP and put up the odd 5 on 5 point at times. Dumba skates like he has cinder blocks on his feet is awful in his own end and stoped producing offence.



16 Oct 2023 02:56:32
I'm still waiting on Nylander or TJ Brodie to be traded because there's no way the leafs can become cap compliant without it.






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26 May 2024 15:01:53
Lindstrom probably goes 3rd.




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19 May 2024 12:21:50
The leafs aren’t moving Lili has there only RHD.




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12 May 2024 13:19:41
Tavares has 1 year left Lmao just ridiculous he won’t be moved he’ll ride out the contract for 1 year then sign a league minimum like Spezza. He’s also still a great player.




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12 May 2024 13:17:09
You’d need to give up Roy or Malioux or maybe something like winnipegs 1st and a 2nd to move up from 5.





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12 May 2024 13:21:29
This was the first year it ended.




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30 Mar 2024 23:06:07
Any contender would take Malkin then shuffle around there team to make the cap work imo.




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27 Mar 2024 10:32:27
I think you’re off on Malkin. He’s still a 1C and has that cup pedigree I think he nets a good return if he gives a list of teams. If he is picky then that return makes sense.




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08 Mar 2024 01:35:01
I think Toffoli heads to Vancouver now.




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06 Mar 2024 23:10:28
Take a look at what he got back last year with no, no trade clause. You're wrong imo. Rielly Smith will return even less.