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24 Jun 2024 19:58:56
The big rumour out here now is a deal around
Carolina: Necas
Nashville: Saros
For those who play fantasy this will massively increase both players value. Necas will get prime time offensive minutes beside Forsburg-O'Rielly and obviously Saros on a powerhouse Carolina team will be terrifying.
1.) 25 Jun 2024 03:18:14
Interesting swap. What's Andersen's status on Carolina? And Kochetkov for that matter too? Don't see Saros as a need for the Hurricanes unless they are getting rid of one of those guys. Maybe one of them going with Necas and another piece going with Saros?
2.) 25 Jun 2024 20:08:31
I’d assume Anderson will head to Nashville.
13 Jun 2024 20:25:37
From Eliot Friedman - The Vegas golden knights are still heavily interested in Mitch Marner they are offering Shea Theodore and Logan Thompson as a package.
1.) 13 Jun 2024 21:46:52
vbb
Not enough Marner is a Top 5 RWinger and an elite player.
2.) 14 Jun 2024 00:56:44
Seen something like this as well. Leafs should take it if this was offered.
3.) 14 Jun 2024 01:32:10
Seen him ranked #10 actually.
4.) 15 Jun 2024 04:16:47
Nashan
Top Scoring RWingers last season.
1.Kucherov
2.Pastrnak
3.Rantanen
4.WNylander
5.Marner
Don't believe me look it up yourself, Marner is a Top 5 and he missed games with that high ankle sprain, if not he might have been even higher than 5th on the list.
5.) 15 Jun 2024 05:11:52
I consider M. Tkachuk and Stone to be better all around RWingers.
6.) 15 Jun 2024 15:06:19
It is a hockey writers article that had him at 10th. And points are not the end all of evaluation of a player.
7.) 15 Jun 2024 19:14:43
Nashan
Marner plays both PP and PK.
How many of those top players do both?
8.) 17 Jun 2024 12:30:27
He might be top 5 in the season. what is in the playoffs? Toronto will have to pay to gain cap space. unless they can retain.
Secondly how is Vegas going to resign this guy.?
28 May 2024 21:38:41
Realistic Mitch Marner proposal
Chicago: Mitch Marner (resigned)
Toronto: one of Moore/Nazar/Richel/Rinzel, Alex Vlasic and Torontos 2025 1st (acquired in McCabe deal)
Chicago is rumoured to be interested in Marner along with Vegas/Nashville and another team mentioned by Kyprios
1.) 28 May 2024 22:22:58
To steep for Marner not worth that much future for a soft fringe player.
2.) 29 May 2024 00:02:02
Not realistic at all imo.
Marner is an Elite Top 5 RWinger in The NHL.
3.) 29 May 2024 01:01:49
So why if you are Chicago would you give up the youth for him, Still rebuilding. If they really want him wait a year and just pitch as a ufa. Remember the leafs are gonna take a hit to trade him as teams always have.
4.) 29 May 2024 13:08:19
Him signed at a reasonable cap hit holds value, a lot of it. All depends on what the cap hit is. If he is dealt it will be a sign and trade. No team is gonna give up a thing without knowing he's gonna be signed past this season.
5.) 29 May 2024 16:50:12
@Nashan- There is a very good chance he doesn’t want to hit the market. He hasn’t performed under pressure and there is a good chance he doesn’t want to play a full season knowing if he’s injured or underperforming it will lower what teams will offer. Signing in the offseason will assure security.
Why would a rebuilding team want Mitch Marner? Well that’s a question for Darren Dreiger who reported their interest. Marner being a an elite playmaker with the most puck strips (take aways) in the NHL beside an elite goal scorer in Bedard is very attractive.
Say what you will about his playoff performances where he is still a PPG player in his career 90+ point player will still command a big return. Not to the extent as leafs fans anticipate, they will be disappointed but this is in line and less then what Erik Karlsson returned when he was moved to San Jose
This package is actually similar to what Matt Duchene brought back when he was moved to Ottawa. Mitch Marner is a lot better then Duchene.
06 Dec 2023 04:52:49
Edmonton: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, Philip Broberg, 1st 2024 and 2nd 2026
Philly: Future Considerations
Edmonton gains 5 million of cap space and Holloway and Broberg haven't looked great
Philly takes on dead cap that'll last for 7 years post buyout but gets 2 solid prospects and 2 high picks for there rebuild. Holloway is built for flyers hockey.
1.) 06 Dec 2023 14:40:24
Edmonton's 1st isn't in play without an asset coming back.
2.) 06 Dec 2023 18:27:38
Wow VB………that just might be the worst trade posted on here. ??.
3.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:14
3.85M in the minors for Campbell. I’d rather keep him down there for another season then think about a buyout over doing this.
4.) 06 Dec 2023 18:30:37
Or pay extra to add Hart.
5.) 08 Dec 2023 00:26:50
In order to get out of the Campbell contract the oilers will need to pay a kings ransom.
6.) 09 Dec 2023 00:01:41
Vb is a bit dense and doesn’t realize worse contracts exist and wouldn’t cost this much to move. Buyouts are an option….
7.) 09 Dec 2023 05:48:34
No team wants 7 years of dead cap via buyout. There is no worse contract. Campbell is literally 5 million of dead cap. He is not a nhl caliber player.
8.) 09 Dec 2023 16:58:55
I agree probably no team would buy him out this offseason. Might have to have him buried in the AHL for another. 3.85M dead cap for another year then a 4 year buyout cost of 1.5M. Straight up it would take a lot to dump but I think taking back a contract would help the cost. Binnington/ Merzlikins maybe.
9.) 10 Dec 2023 03:29:14
Binnington would be the most likely route imo.
Campbell, Broberg and a unprotected 1st 2024 for Binnington.
10.) 11 Dec 2023 08:00:57
Gibson in Anaheim would be sweet too.
02 Dec 2023 17:23:00
Toronto: Chris Tanev 50% retained
Calgary: Roni Hirovinen, NYI 3rd round pick and Calgarys 5th round pick ( leafs own it )
I believe Tanev will be a leaf by the deadline and I feel like the return will be similar to this. Most will say it's not enough but this is the typical going rate for comparable dman with the flat cap.
1.) 03 Dec 2023 02:24:39
I think you’re right honestly
2.) 04 Dec 2023 15:29:44
Hirovinen can’t even get the call on a beat up not so good Leaf’s d. No thx on him.
3.) 04 Dec 2023 17:14:12
Well he probably hasn’t got a call up on the leafs d because he’s a centre lol.
4.) 04 Dec 2023 17:23:20
@Nashan you know Hirovienen is a forward right? Based on the cap and what some other players was are fetching, I'd say this will pretty close. Could see potentially a higher pick (not a first) if there becomes a bidding war.
5.) 04 Dec 2023 19:20:19
Thx MG. Must have been looking at one of the Fin defencemen. my bad. Still wouldn’t want him lol.
6.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:20
@Nasher probably thinking of Niemela or Kokkonen
7.) 04 Dec 2023 20:29:31
@Nashan* oops
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25 Mar 2024 01:58:00
I don't think the pens can compete with their old core the currently have. If these players were willing to waive what could the Pens get for-
Crosby (Colorado is probably the only other team he'd go to)
Malkin
Rust
Letang
Karlsson
1.) 26 Mar 2024 16:05:12
Crosby may waive for the Habs as well. If he's content with bot winning a cup and more so wants to closer to family and play for his childhood team.
Crosby likely returns a top 6/ 9 player, mid/ high end prospect, a 1st and likely a conditional 1st as well.
Malkin likely gets a mid level prospect and a 1st or 2nd. More likely the 2nd though
Rust likely brings back a mid level prospect, a 1st, and a 3rd. He's still only 31. Can play center and the wing and makes just over $5mill. Probably brings in maybe another prospect or pick if money is retained.
Letang is a tough one cause when he's healthy he's a very solid dman and still shows he can give you top pairing minutes and production. But his health is a big concern. I'd say it's likely a mid level prospect and a 2nd or 3rd for him. Maybe a 1st if money is retained or if a team really wants him.
Karlsson is likely a similar return as Letang. That cap hit is just nuts.
2.) 27 Mar 2024 10:32:27
I think you’re off on Malkin. He’s still a 1C and has that cup pedigree I think he nets a good return if he gives a list of teams. If he is picky then that return makes sense.
3.) 27 Mar 2024 11:33:15
He's just slowed down a tonne. Still has a tonne of skill and gets hot for streaks. Just inconsistent, which is to be expected when you're at his age. Definitely could still be a 1C, but not many teams in need of one, especially contending ones.
4.) 30 Mar 2024 23:06:07
Any contender would take Malkin then shuffle around there team to make the cap work imo.
5.) 31 Mar 2024 02:55:35
For sure no doubt in my mind they would. I was more leading to the likely hood of him being a 1C on a contending team would be low. More likely you see him as the 2C or moved to the wing on a contending team. Still a great player; father time definitely showing his signs on him though and his movement/ trade clause would play a big factor into what his return would ultimately be.
12 Mar 2024 19:11:35
Idk who's more delusional Pinball posting the awful Dumba to leafs trades or Chickenfoot saying Arizona declines.
Dumba and a 7th for a 2025 5th was what he went for incase someone missed it which I wouldn't blame them because he's irrelevant.
1.) 13 Apr 2024 14:20:20
Is this not the place to make trade proposals and receive feedback? Quit your whining!
06 Mar 2024 23:09:04
Deadline predictions-
Lindholm- Boston
Debrusk- Pittsburgh
Guzentzel- Vancouver/Carolina
Zucker- Vancouver/Carolina
DeAngelo and Edmonston- Toronto (Hopefully Ryan Johanson)
Markstrom- NJ (Vancek in deal)
1.) 08 Mar 2024 01:35:01
I think Toffoli heads to Vancouver now.
22 Nov 2023 19:30:30
What happened to Matt Dumba? Only 30 and went from a top 4 guy to the absolute worst player in the NHL? I don't even think he'd be good the AHL at this point.
1.) 24 Nov 2023 23:02:19
Is he really that bad? I honestly haven't seen alot of him. I do remember not so long ago, he was a really good 2 way Dman, capable of highlight reel body checks here and there. How has his game regressed? He can't be worse than Klingberg?
2.) 25 Nov 2023 21:46:55
Klingberg can QB a PP and put up the odd 5 on 5 point at times. Dumba skates like he has cinder blocks on his feet is awful in his own end and stoped producing offence.
16 Oct 2023 02:56:32
I'm still waiting on Nylander or TJ Brodie to be traded because there's no way the leafs can become cap compliant without it.
Apparently?
27 Jul 2024 03:55:47
As i mentioned for his whole Career in Buffalo Samuelsson has played beside Dahlin and a little bit beside Power. Strictly on the right side. While he is left handed similar to TJ Brodie on Toronto he plays strictly on the right side (not sure where he played in his amateur career he could’ve played on the left side but so far in the NHL he has only played on right side. )
Being a physical shut down dman he is a natural partner for Morrisey imo. I believe if he becomes available Chevy would be all over him with the attention of pairing him with Morrisey.
26 Jul 2024 18:46:50
If samuelsson is relegated to the bottom pair which is probably unlikely maybe something around Samuelsson and these 2 would make sense from a Winnipeg POV. He is a LHD but played on the right side for most of his career. If you don’t know him he’s very, very similar to Adam Larsson and would look good on the top pair with Morrisey. Passed for over 200 hits and BLKs last year and his advanced statistics put him in top 10 percentile in his own zone and top 5 percentile on the PK.
Ostlund (Projects as a 2C 16th overall in 2022 coming off a solid season in SHL) and Samuelson for Perfetti and McGority.
21 Jul 2024 17:20:42
Lol these are awful for every team not named Winnipeg.
18 Jul 2024 16:31:12
If the Penguins offered a 35 year old Crosby for McGority the jets would shoot him out of a cannonball to Pittsburgh.
17 Jul 2024 19:01:02
Lili will be on the leafs top Pairing with Rielly. He’s not amazing (doesn’t have a ton of trade value) but hes a home grown prospect and one of the longest tenured leafs and he won’t be traded.
26 Jun 2024 20:54:35
Korpisalo at 3mil is a steal. He is a very over qualified backup to Swayman. Absolutely phenomenal asset managemet by Boston imo. Swayman is the number 1 there and Ullmark was not needed.
07 Jun 2024 03:41:21
I think the Marcel Dionne award is the obvious choice for western conference MVP. Absolutely elevated his game in playoffs.
12 May 2024 13:21:29
This was the first year it ended.
30 Mar 2024 23:06:07
Any contender would take Malkin then shuffle around there team to make the cap work imo.
27 Mar 2024 10:32:27
I think you’re off on Malkin. He’s still a 1C and has that cup pedigree I think he nets a good return if he gives a list of teams. If he is picky then that return makes sense.