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07 Nov 2022 19:07:08
Montreal: Joshua Roy, 2nd 2023 and 3rd 2024

Columbus: Adam Boqvist

Montreal- Adam Boqvist is a perfect fit on the Canadian weak right side. He is a young PP specialtist who'd instantly step into the 1st PP and has the potential to mold into a Tyson Barrie like player ( in prime ). Boqvist is struggling in torts system but in a creative system like Martin St Louis has has to offer I could see him produce at a 50 Pt pace.

Columbus- Boqvist just isn't a fit in Torts system and is blocked by Werenski and Jiricek. They get back a few decent pieces while giving a redundant player a chance else where.

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1.) 07 Nov 2022 23:12:45
MTL passes and will continue to stockpile ‘23 picks and develop promising talents like Roy.

Also, Columbus is coached by Brad Larsen. John Tortorella coaches Philly. Larsen had a full training camp and preseason with his team and they’re certainly not playing the old Torts system that got him fired.

Cue the meltdown….


2.) 07 Nov 2022 23:51:56
Sorry VB, but Torts is a Flyer.

I dobt think Habs should trade Roy away.
Now if they would want Hoffman, let's do it!


3.) 10 Nov 2022 02:21:32
Ohh crap my bad well it still stands that he is blocked by tons of other players.


 

 

24 Sep 2022 13:10:00
Montreal: Christian Dvorak, Kaiden Guhle and 2024 top 10 protected 1st changes to a 2025 unprotected 1st

Winnipeg: PLD+ cap dump

Montreal gets a very good 2c and Winnipeg gets a solid package for a player who wants to go.

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1.) 24 Sep 2022 13:30:39
Way too much in my opinion. Montreal wants to tank for Bedard and can potentially just sign PLD.


2.) 24 Sep 2022 15:52:39
If PLD doesn't want to sign long term the Jets will trade him to a team he wants to play with, for a better return than this. Winning teams like NYR, LA, Florida, Colorado and Tampa have the type of players they would be willing to trade that the Jets would want in order to get PLD and ability to sign him long term.


3.) 24 Sep 2022 16:44:23
I wouldn't part with Guhle for him. Guhle will be a top pairing Dman in 2 to 3 years.
Habs just acquired Dach, he will hopefully become that number 2C, also with this upcoming draft, maybe they don't get Bedard, but Fantilli would be a good pick, if it Habs are in top 3, which, there is a good chance.
I like PLD, but not enough to give up Guhle. He has the opportunity to be a cornerstone player for the Habs for the next 10 years plus.


4.) 24 Sep 2022 20:44:49
That's a fairly easy no from Winnipeg. Plus Dubois has never said he wants to go.

At this point of the off season, Winnipeg isn't going to trade a top 6 center without having an equivalent top 6 center coming back. Barring that, it would take an exceptional offer to get Winnipeg thinking. A TDL value offer now, doesn't offer any enticement.

Guhle is alright, but as an LD doesn't give Winnipeg anything they need. Dvorak as an expensive, average 3C doesn't add much value and there is less than a 0% chance Winnipeg would agree to wait to until 24 for a protected pick.

All in all the Jets get at least this value at the TDL this year. The extra value of Guhle is more than offset negatively by have to wait 2 drafts for a protected pick.

There's just no logical reason for Winnipeg to consider this. Teams don't trade star players for pieces they don't need or protected picks years in the future.


5.) 24 Sep 2022 20:52:09
Additionally, the Jets wouldn't lower Dubois' value by attaching a cap dump to him. Why would any team do that?


6.) 25 Sep 2022 00:09:28
Easy no from MTL. They’re not trading Guhle OR a 2023 1st for a player who isn’t a difference maker. WPG has zero leverage to demand a package like this. The player clearly isn’t going to re-sign and the other 31 teams know it.

IF MTL wants him, they can sign him in 2 years as a UFA, but who knows if Gorton or Hughes like what he brings, let alone how much he’d want? Just because the player prefers the team doesn’t mean the team wants the player.

I hope WPG gets a good return for the fans to be happy about, but this is pure fantasy.


7.) 28 Sep 2022 14:46:31
MTL turns it down. we can't give up our best D prospect for PLD. Pretty much just echo everything Sosa said.


8.) 25 Oct 2022 11:39:27
This is most stupidest suggestion I saw on this entire site.
PLD for all that ? must be jets fanboy.


 

 

28 Jul 2022 00:45:21
Jason Zucker, Teddy Buleger and 1st 2023 for Johnathan Towes @50% retained

Chicago gets a 1st in a solid draft for a player who is speculated to want out.

Pittsburgh gets a character 3C who is still solid defensively although he has lost a step.

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1.) 28 Jul 2022 14:11:39
I think Toews is more of a deadline trade since no one really knows where his health is at right now.
Teams will have to see him play to know where his value is at.


2.) 28 Jul 2022 15:21:29
Maybe a third team can retain to up his value. Chicago doesn’t need him but to only get a 1st for a guy that has multiple cups and gold medals doesn’t seem worth it to trade. Last season was like the only bad season of his career. Whoever trades for them will be getting a really good player still.


 

 

22 Jul 2022 16:19:10
READ EXPLENATION

NYI- Matt Barzal

Calgary- Mathew Tkachuk, Jusso Valamaki, Jacob Peltier and 2nd 2023

New York- the islanders run a defensive based system which really holds Barzals game back. A player like Tkachuk would thrive in this environment from a off the puck standpoint. Peltier could develop into a solid 2nd line winger aswell.

Calgary- the flames get an elite 1c who would put up 90+ points in a more offensive system signed to a great contract.

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1.) 22 Jul 2022 16:39:30
I usually agree with your takes but this ain’t it man, flames get robbed


2.) 22 Jul 2022 17:02:30
Calgary definitely adds, but I doubt the Islanders would be interested.


3.) 22 Jul 2022 17:11:27
I'll be mad if CGY Trades Tkachuk for Barzal, only roster players I like from NYI are Dobson, Walstrom, Pelech, Sorokin & Mayfield since we currently need 2 RD's

As for Prospects, Aatu Raty, Willaim Dufour & Samuel Bolduc (who we probably don't need given we already have Kuznetsov & Poirier)


4.) 22 Jul 2022 17:52:01
I’m from Saint John and I’ll tell you right now with absolute certainty that Porier and Kuznetzkov will never be NHL players. Porier is lazy and doesn’t even do team workouts. Kuznetzkov peaked young and is absolutely jacked but has like zero skill or hockey sense. Dufour is also pretty lazy. He’s actually literally fat.


5.) 22 Jul 2022 18:20:55
ROFLMAO

NYI can keep their small 60 point center.


6.) 22 Jul 2022 21:16:04
Both the Jets and Flamees will never get fair value for Tkachuk and PLD. However the Flames should get a better return for Tkachuk.


7.) 22 Jul 2022 21:47:31
Calgary fans would rather have Dube and Ruzicka? over Barzal so good luck with this post VB. Lol.


8.) 22 Jul 2022 23:25:47
Dube and Ruzicka combined make less than half of what Barzal makes. Almost a million less than half.

Dube is under contract for 2 more years at which point he's an RFA. Ruzicka is an RFA due for a raise now but it won't be very much. Both players have potential.

I can't speak for other Flames fans but I'd rather keep both players than trade them for a soft player making 7 million/ year who will be RFA next summer. Particularly when considering Calgary should have plenty of cap space to take on pretty much any player available through trade or free agency.


9.) 22 Jul 2022 23:31:17
I agree with islandjet.
Flames fans are forgetting Tkachuk can become a ufa in one season.


10.) 23 Jul 2022 00:50:55
vbbb, you've said that before about Poirier and just like this Trade Proposal, you're "Unbelievable". Jeremie Poirier = Kaidan Guhle

@Ebs, I took the time to write it all out for you, did you read it!? Dube & Ruzicka need less time and talent on their line to score goals and come at 11.5-33% of the cost. Flames will use the $7mil for much better options than Barzal.


11.) 23 Jul 2022 01:09:04
vbbb is nylander, he always trashes the Flames. He thinks Eichel the greatest player ever too.


 

 

09 Jul 2022 01:01:05
Flordia: Sergei Bobrovsky and Anton Lundell

Chicago: Seth Jones

Florida gets out of that awful Bob contact and roles with Knight-Hoaltby tandem. Seth Jones provides the Panthers with an elite Dman to compliment Eklblad.

Chicago gets a goalie to platoon with Mrazek and gets a top end young player for taking that contract.

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1.) 09 Jul 2022 03:10:37
I’d say Florida declines. Jones is almost as bad of a contract as Bob and Lundell is a super skilled player.


2.) 09 Jul 2022 03:32:34
Like ChickenFoot points out in another thread below, I don’t think CHI wants a Goalie who will actually stop the puck. That would only hamper their efforts to win the Connor Bedard Draft Lottery + the Bobrovski contact is way too long and will age very badly soon.


3.) 09 Jul 2022 16:53:33
The only thing maybe stopping Florida is Jones has an extra I think 4 years. But I think it’s a solid trade and both teams go for it.


4.) 09 Jul 2022 23:16:17
I just can’t see it happening from both sides, Jones could bounce back next season so I’d think it wouldn’t be smart to trade him now.


 

 

 

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28 Jan 2023 01:06:26
Deadline predictions

P.Kane- Returns a similar package to Mantha when he was moved to Washington

Horvat- Traded for a 1st and prospect ( B ) + more contracts potentially

Towes- Traded for a 2nd and a cap dump

O'Rielly/Taresanko-I think they stay but if moved they will return an equivalent to a 1st

Domi- Returns a 2nd or a 3rd

Chychrun- Stays in Arizona

Klingberg- Returns a 3rd

Timo Miere/Erik Karlsson both stay.

Monahan returns a 2nd

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1.) 30 Jan 2023 16:54:29
I read Toews salary for this season is only 2.9M so at the deadline it’s like 800K. For a third team to retain 25% of that (200K) it should only cost a mid to low pick. With that being said I could seeing him bringing back a first.


2.) 06 Feb 2023 19:38:39
Well I guessed the Horvat trade right.


 

 

15 Dec 2022 12:54:46
Is Nurse the modern day version of early Toronto days Dion Phaneuf? Most overpriced dman in the league is a very good top 4 guy but his price tag makes him extremely overrated?

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1.) 15 Dec 2022 13:20:27
He's always been an average 2nd pairing guy at his best. He's had one outlier year offensively, but other than that, average. He's always had the tools, just not the toolbox. It was a pretty huge miss on that contract.


2.) 15 Dec 2022 19:04:46
I dont know about being the modern Phaneuf, but I see your point.
Hes got all the tools to be #1 Dman, but just put it all together. I'd love to have this guy at about 5-6 M per year. But he's way overpaid.
He kinda reminds me of Josh Anderson, obviously different positions, but all the tools, but can't take the next step to being a legit star in the league.


3.) 16 Dec 2022 01:25:09
Josh Anderson is a fair comparison honestly.


4.) 16 Dec 2022 16:35:26
Good post and replies.


5.) 16 Dec 2022 23:46:46
He was a bonafide number one the season he signed his contract. He was a stud defensively and was on a 50 point pace. The GM made a mistake signing him to bridge deals then signing him long term after his best season. Should have either got him at a discount early or waited another season to see if he could repeat his 9M performance. He’s still a 2-3 D, top pair on probably ever team in the league though. I agree considering the cap going up he should have signed for 7-8. He’s been bad but I’m sure he’ll get back his game soon enough.


6.) 17 Dec 2022 02:06:13
I wouldnt even call him bad Ebs, just not worth the 9 million .
When he's on his game, the guy is a force. Love his all around game. ( when he's playing to his ability)


7.) 20 Dec 2022 02:39:13
Definitely agree with all of these points besides him bouncing back to a bonafide number 1 dman. #2-3 dman is a fairer expectation.


 

 

15 Nov 2022 00:08:43
Sounds like Chychrun will be heading to the leafs before the deadline. With Muzzin on LTIR and out indefinitely the leafs don't need to send cap back. Not sure if this is the right player to be targeting but time will tell.

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1.) 15 Nov 2022 17:16:30
Who/ What do you think the Leafs would need to send that way. I can see them wanting Robertson and more. would you part with Nick Robertson.?


2.) 21 Nov 2022 13:09:59
Not to sure honestly I think I’d be okay parting with one of Robertson or Knies. I don’t think Chychrun helps the leafs at all though I’d rather they target someone else.


 

 

05 Oct 2022 00:36:18
If you guys are building a team thinking long term who do you take between

Rasmus Dahlin and Adam Fox?

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1.) 05 Oct 2022 03:52:03
I think Dahlin. Better all around.


2.) 05 Oct 2022 23:46:04
Agreed.


 

 

02 Oct 2022 14:58:12
Does anyone else see Buffalo being a Bedard and a starting goalie away from being potentially the greatest Dynasty since the Montreal Canadians in the original 6?

Thompson-Berdard-Quinn
Savoie-Cozens-Tuch
Skinner-Mittelstad-Perterka
Krebs-Olfsson-Asplund
Oslund-Rosen

Dahlin-Jokerhariju
Power-Lybushkin
Samuelsson-?

UPL
Comrie

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1.) 02 Oct 2022 22:23:17
I don't see the vision you do. However, there are lots of good peices, as long as they all reach the potential they have.
I think the 80s Oilers are the last team we will see that displayed pure dominance for more than 5 consecutive years. If not for the Steve Smith blunder, I believe they would have beat my Habs and tied for most,
Off topic, but I wonder, if they would have won the 5 in a row, does Gretzky get traded in 88? Or do him and the Oilers go for 6? Lots of what ifs I suppose

Vb, Buffalo does look promising, however, id also say Ottawa can be great as well.
Many teams However are a Bedard and starting goalie away from Greatness.


2.) 04 Oct 2022 22:05:30
That is true but I’m Just eyeing really a D core of Dahlin and Power. In 3-4 years time they could 2 top 5 dman on the same team with potentially a top 5 player in the game in Bedard. You also have Quinn who is looking unreal I could see this guy being a superstar within 2-3 years. Tuch and Thompson are debatably among the top 10-15 PWF in the NHL currently. Peterka, Krebs, Savoie and Cozens are very promising that’s at the very least 2 top 6 players probably one of them becomes elite and I’m looking at Savoie to be that guy. Olfsson and Skinner are what they are and skinner honestly probably hurts more then helps with his contact. Then to put icing on the cake you got two first round forward picks in Oslund and Rosen + even Mittelstad as potential future impact players. The Sabres are in good hands.

But yes the oilers somehow blew past my mind. Pretty hard to beat them. Could see Berdard being Lemieux to Gretzkys McDavid. Quinn=Kurri and Dahlin=Coffee. Obviously they are missing Messier here but when you look at the depth it cancels out imo.


3.) 04 Oct 2022 23:09:18
It's so hard now though VB with the salary cap. I think these exceptional teams have about a 5 year window, maybe a little more. So to be a Dynasty like Edmonton, Montreal, NYI, its almost impossible.
You make good points, and Power and Sandin will be great, as would Bedars. But, when they are all in their prime, that's a minimum of 30 million if they reach potential. so, just so hard.


4.) 05 Oct 2022 00:28:43
I agree with you Sossa 100% the salary cap does hurt things alot.

And let’s hope Sandin will be great lol ;)


5.) 05 Oct 2022 02:52:23
Haha. I screwed that up. haha. No. Dahlin that guy I meant.


 

 

 

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06 Feb 2023 19:36:39
Poolparty is probably one of the most well know nicknames around the nhl it’s clear you don’t follow the oilers.

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06 Feb 2023 19:34:51
Yup let’s reunite Burns and Karlsson because that worked out fantastic in San Jose…ohh wait.

These are 2 very good PP specialists who just don’t work well together at all.

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02 Feb 2023 02:17:50
Yeah leafs have a ton of power forwards who average the second to most shots in the nhl per game and not to mention would have the second to most hits on the leafs roster ( more hits then Josh Anderson )

Tell me you haven’t watched the leafs or Timo Meier play with without telling me.

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30 Jan 2023 15:28:58
Then if the leafs stars don’t then they don’t and they won’t win the cup. it’s as simple as that the leafs need Rielly, Mathews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares ton carry the team due to cap structure. IF the leafs get a Stanley cup caliber Matt Murray who stands on his head like he did in Pittsburgh then the leafs can win.

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28 Jan 2023 16:27:18
That’s what was said about the Penguins core and they won 3 cups.

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06 Feb 2023 19:38:39
Well I guessed the Horvat trade right.

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24 Jan 2023 10:38:53
What do you mean? He’s considered a top 10 goalie prospect undisputed. At this point he’s probably only behind Askarov, Wallstedt, UPL, Tarasov and the goalie on Anaheim. He’s probably ahead of Cossa at this point.

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01 Jan 2023 23:24:21
You don’t move a player like Nuge if you’re contending.

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20 Dec 2022 02:39:13
Definitely agree with all of these points besides him bouncing back to a bonafide number 1 dman. #2-3 dman is a fairer expectation.

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16 Dec 2022 01:25:09
Josh Anderson is a fair comparison honestly.

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