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23 Aug 2018 15:31:25
Detroit Trades: Gustav Nyquist

Nashville Trades: Conditional 2nd 2019 ( Becomes 1st if Nyquist re-signs or Nashville reaches Conference Finals), 3rd 2020

Detroit reason: Clears cap space and Roster Spot for youth

Nashville reason: Gets a scoring winger to help add depth up front where they need more help.

Fair value? Who adds?

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) 23 Aug 2018 18:45:51
I like it.


2.) 23 Aug 2018 19:40:01
Seems good value both ways.


3.) 23 Aug 2018 20:46:22
I think that if the xondition isn't meet then the 3rd 2020 should convert to a 2nd 2020.

AT minimum Nyquist is worth 2 seconds. very defensivley sound 20 goal scorer50 point winger.


4.) 25 Aug 2018 04:51:45
Thanks for the Feedback everyone. I feel Nashville could be a great Destination at the Deadline go push for this deal.

@redwing1

I agree with that. Two 2nds would be solid, he won’t get what Hartman go but still should fetch a nice return. Especially if there is a bidding war for his services.


5.) 25 Aug 2018 06:16:06
Maybe more like a late 1st but idk.


 

 

23 Aug 2018 08:45:57
Detroit Trades: Jonathan Ericsson (2 years, 4.250 million)

New Jersey Trades: 3rd 2019 (ANA), Conditional 3rd 2020 (2nd if Devils Re-sign Ericsson)

Detroit reason: Clears cap and makes room for Hronek or Hicketts to crack the roster.

New Jersey Reason:Gets Veteran Swedish Defenseman to help mentor and anchor Severson. Fills the gap left by Moore and they have enough cap space to try him out for this year and next.

Is the value fair? Too much? Too little?

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) 23 Aug 2018 13:18:47
Don’t usually see ‘condition on signing’ with 2 years left. That would be entering his final season, deadline of final season or trading his rights after the season.


2.) 23 Aug 2018 15:40:55
Eww no from NJ, Wings are stuck with Ericsson.


3.) 25 Aug 2018 04:56:14
Thanks for the feedback.

@unbiasedjim You make a good point about conditions. Maybe the condition could be play related.

@Hotguybabes

Ericsson is a decent Defenseman who may succeed with a change of scenery. Also his term is much lower which makes his contract more tolerable. New Jersey also has cap space and a need for Defenseman. Adding depth like Ericsson for picks can certainly help them push to make the playoffs again. They may not go far but deeper defense can help get you I’m.


 

 

15 Aug 2018 19:01:58
Detroit Trades:
Jimmy Howard
Gustav Nyquist (50 % retained)

Calgary Trades:
Tyler Parsons
3rd 2019
Conditional 2nd 2020 ( 1st if Nyquist re-signs)

Detroit does this to clear cap and gain a young goalie prospect with upside.

Calgary gets a veteran 1B goalie t share with Smith and depth for their Top 9.


Who adds? Is it fair?

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) 15 Aug 2018 20:43:07
Calg can't add all that $$. Lol.


2.) 16 Aug 2018 18:49:49
@yupp That was my concern too.

I als forgot when I saw Capfriendly that they haven’t re-signed Hanafin.

Is there any cap they can send back? I know Brouwer was their main cap dump but he’s bought out.

Is the value fair otherwise?


3.) 16 Aug 2018 22:24:20
I don't see the Flames trading for aging guys when they already have a 36 year old goalie and they like their backup Rittich (? ) . And they just let older Brouwer go and made a trade to get younger on D and wing respectively. They have some good young players who are knocking on the door and will get their shot, I just do see them bringing in an old Howard with the two goalies they have now and an older winger when they just brought in Neal and Lindholm.
I think they would just rather keep that prospect. Also they can't fit that money anyways. But if they could I would say a big no from Calgary anyways.


4.) 17 Aug 2018 18:01:13
Parsons has struggled thus far its never a good sign for a goalie to be playing in the ECHL the future for him isn’t that bright and why would Philly need a struggling goalie prospect? Hart looks like a stud.


5.) 17 Aug 2018 18:03:09
Disregard my last post I’m not sure what I was thinking. I read the previous post and got confused.


6.) 18 Aug 2018 02:57:55
@yupp

You make some good points. Thanks for the feedback.

Just trying to see if Wings can get a nice G prospect. After Howard and Bernier it’s all just hoping that one becomes a stud.

Is there any other teams that might consider moving a G prospect with Parsons similar upside?


 

 

01 Jul 2017 10:41:18
Kinda had this idea in mind for my Red Wings looking to get Younger while clearing some cap space:

Detroit Trades:
One of Frans Nielson/ Henrik Zetterberg (Assuming they want a cup and willing to move on to get one)
One of Gustav Nyquist or Tomas Tatar (Nashville's choice)
Petr Mrazek

Nashville Trades:
Kevin Fiala
Dante Fabbro
1st 2018
Conditional 2019 2nd that becomes 1st if Nashville reaches cup final once in next two years.
Cap dump

Why for Detroit: Detroit clears cap space and gets young pieces for the rebuild that needs to happen.

Why for Nashville:
Nashville loads up on Offense to prep for a Stanley cup run with their already fantastic Defense. Plus they get a young goalie to help learn from Rinne and eventually take over when he is done(similar to Reimer for Luongo). Nashville takes a lot of cap but sends back bad contracts or asks for salary retention.

Is this plausible in a potential deal? May not be equal? Who adds?

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) 01 Jul 2017 14:30:53
Nashville doesn't need Mrazek because they have Saros.


2.) 01 Jul 2017 16:52:09
@KingsLover

Yes they have Saros but Saros wasn't fully ready especially to play Playoff hockey. Mrazek only has slightly more experience. I think because Saros isn't a sure thing, having the ability to run Rinne-Mrazek and then Mrazek-Saros in the future would be great to fill the goalie void so there is no future net concerns after the Rinne era.


 

 

24 Jun 2017 02:45:01
Confirmed Trade:

Philadelphia Trades:
Brayden Schenn

St. Louis Trades:
Jori Lehtera
2017 1st round pick #27
Conditional 2018 first round pick

Wow! Just wow!

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) 24 Jun 2017 05:40:08
That's a lot for schenn.


2.) 24 Jun 2017 05:45:36
I think that is terrible for philly. Did they really want this Frost kid or something? I didn't get to watch it but I don't like the deal. St. Louis now has a solid #2 centre who also plays wing.


3.) 24 Jun 2017 06:06:53
Agree with not today.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 10:09:06
I think this move shows that Philly thinks Patrick is ready to play next year.


5.) 24 Jun 2017 11:41:44
I agree hattrick but Schenn also plays wing and philly is weak on the wings. I still don't like it.


6.) 24 Jun 2017 16:34:54
Don't like the trade at all for the Flyers. You took back a near 5 million cap hit that's a stiff ad 2 probable lower 1st round picks, and hope they can both do what Schenn did. Flyers are now a weaker team, Hextall's trades are poor at best.


7.) 24 Jun 2017 20:06:41
I'm guessing they are going for Someone like Neal, Chuck or JVR for the 1st line LW role.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2014 00:01:10
Just out of Curiosity.

I want to know the value of the following players that would be needed to be sent in return for them.

1. Marian Hossa (Chicago)
2. Alexander Semin (Carolina)
3. Bobby Ryan (Ottawa)
4. Mike Green (Washington)
5. Reilly Smith (Boston)
6. Niklas Hjalmarsson (Chicago)
7.Mike Richards( Los Angeles)
8. Marc Staal (NY Rangers)
9. Dennis Wideman (Calgary)
10.Jeff Petry (Edmonton)

Please comment what you believe is fair value from any team to give for these players.

Datsyuk_Fan13

1.) I think it would take at least a combination of Kessel, JVR and Bernier pluss some picks and prospects to land Petry


2.) But everyone else in the list could be got for Gardiner and a 7th. He's a future multiple Norris winner, dontcha know.


3.) ^ doubt he ever wins a trophy, but he's not nearly the plug people on here like to make him out to be.


4.) ^ the irony about Petry is that people seem to value him so high, yet they are always trading him away. Seems counter-intuitive given Edmonton NEEDS good d-men.


5.) While I don't want the Oilers to move Petry (same goes for Smid when that deal went down) his value is probably approaching a high right now. He's zero flash but definitely a sturdy middle-pairing dman and has been one of the better Oilers dmen the past couple of years. He wouldn't be traded for picks and prospects, that's a backwards move, but if the Oilers choose to make a trade for a #2C then Petry will very likely be the first guy on the block. There has been a big change amongst the top-6 dmen and IMO it looks better now than it did the past couple years. Moving Petry could end up being a bad move, it's risky, but the Oilers are getting to a point where they are becoming logjammed with defensive prospects. Klefbom, Marincin, and potentially Nurse are all knocking at the door looking for full-time jobs this year.

I think Petry will be an Oiler at the start of the year. Marincin likely makes the team full-time and Klefbom will either be first callup or the #7 on the Oilers. Around the deadline, if the Oilers are far out of the playoff discussion again, he will likely be moved for a good center prospect to shore up that position further and Klefbom will finish the year in the bottom-pairing.

None of this is ideal, and keeps the rebuild process at its snails pace, but it's probably better than a drastic move like trading a player like Eberle.


 

 

 

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25 Aug 2018 04:59:59
Would Howard @50% retained from Wings be of interest to Caps? Looking for at least a 3rd, maybe becomes 2nd if re-signs or Caps make conference finals

Also if they no longer want Copley, we can take him to play back up and help us get Jack Hughes (I can dream haha)

Another option could be Lehtonen, would be a decent back up.

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25 Aug 2018 04:56:14
Thanks for the feedback.

@unbiasedjim You make a good point about conditions. Maybe the condition could be play related.

@Hotguybabes

Ericsson is a decent Defenseman who may succeed with a change of scenery. Also his term is much lower which makes his contract more tolerable. New Jersey also has cap space and a need for Defenseman. Adding depth like Ericsson for picks can certainly help them push to make the playoffs again. They may not go far but deeper defense can help get you I’m.

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25 Aug 2018 04:51:45
Thanks for the Feedback everyone. I feel Nashville could be a great Destination at the Deadline go push for this deal.

@redwing1

I agree with that. Two 2nds would be solid, he won’t get what Hartman go but still should fetch a nice return. Especially if there is a bidding war for his services.

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23 Aug 2018 08:36:52
@UnbiasedJim

I agree with what you said. Although I may have been a little out of context.

What I was trying to say is that I read a single article that Liljegren was a potential piece in a deal that obviously fell through at the past deadline (forgot when it was) . Clearly that author knew nothing about hockey.

Now obviously one article does not lead to accuracy on the real asking price. What I will add is that Leafs did show interest so they could re visit this at the deadline again.

I know that Glendening a 4th line C and is not getting a stud D prospect like Liljegren. Just expecting draft picks and as high as the bidding war will take it.

However, I feel overall that my Wings won’t move him because we don’t have a replacement for him who does the intangibles on the PK and flexibility to move around the lineup.

Basically, trying to get across that I would prefer picks/ prospects over Pickard. Pickard’s ceiling isn’t high so just from a Red Wings Team need perspective, we would be looking for like Tyler Parsons, Carter Hart or someone like that. Not saying we will get them but that’s what we’re looking for.

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22 Aug 2018 17:38:53
I guess this works for the Habs since they just stocked up on Center prospects.

There may be cap concerns but this is fair for Patches as a rental.

Overall a good proposal.

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I think the leafs should have taken that deal. Despite how good Sundin is, they could have had a team instead of just a player for the future.

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Good signing. I wish Detroit did this instead of signing Quincey

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