02 Dec 2023 18:22:28
DET : Seider

OTT : Chabot, 2024 2nd, Sokolov

Swap of a righty for a lefty. Detroit has lots of Rightys but no real Top end lefties and Ottawa is pretty much the opposite, and with the emergence of Sanderson and the way Chychrun has looked since coming aboard the Sens, using Chabot to get a near equal level right handed young right side dman like Seider makes a lot of sense.

Sanderson Seider
Chychrun Zub
Branstrom Hamonic
Klevin.

1.) 02 Dec 2023
02 Dec 2023 20:38:29
Detroit laughs.

2.) 02 Dec 2023
02 Dec 2023 21:57:30
I don't think you'll see Detroit trading Seider.

3.) 02 Dec 2023
02 Dec 2023 22:40:25
your trading for a future $10m RHD and not getting a 1st back, not even giving up a top prospect and to top it off, Chabot will be up for a new contract before you even lose control of Seider.

lets start the convo with Stutle anbd brannstrom, and detroit can add a 1st unprotected.

4.) 03 Dec 2023
03 Dec 2023 12:31:44
Why does Detroit laugh vbbbvvbb?

5.) 03 Dec 2023
03 Dec 2023 21:48:52
@Senslayer Assuming Detroit laughs because Seider is a RHD, 4 years younger and arguably the better player.

6.) 04 Dec 2023
04 Dec 2023 19:27:37
Not arguably better player, is better player.

7.) 05 Dec 2023
04 Dec 2023 23:57:02
Nathan you can say based on your own opinion that Seider is better but the fact is, stats don't lie dude. Seiders +/ - may be better, sure, but that only because that is a team stat, NOT an individual stat which is what you need to compare when comparing 2 individuals. And last I checked when I went to school, Chabot and his 0.59 points per game trumps Seiders 0.57 points per game. Am I wrong? No, I'm not!

When it comes to the stats they are relatively equal players in every way that counts. Hence the offer. Just because someone likes one better than the other based on the team they play for, doesn't actually make that one better lol. Seider is slightly better in some ways and Chabot is slightly better in other ways.

The reason I posted this trade wasn't to upgrade or downgrade either team, as it really doesn't do anything like that, it was to level out a lopsided blueline on both teams, a little more so for Ottawa sure.

Ottawa has Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson who are all Top 2 Level LHD who are Left Side Naturals

Detroit has both Seider and Edvinson who are Top 2 Level RHD, or in Edvinson case, will be that.

So instead of forcing them all to play less minutes or off sides, why not make a swap that would benefit both sides? Chabot would also bring leadership and a mentor like role for Edvinson, while Seider and Sanderson would be the perfect compliment for one another. And Chychrun and Zub together would be a solid 2nd pair for Ottawa.

8.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 04:09:55
At 22 chabot had.44 pts per game if you want to compare. I am not comparing points I watch the play away from the puck and Seider is far better and is only 22 lots of improvement still to come. I also not sure if any team would trade bonifide #1 dman.

9.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 11:44:38
I remember Stevie Y going off the board to draft Seider, and wow…did he ever know what he was doing.

Chabot has lost his game, but is still a young man, and can find it again. Nonetheless, at 8M/ season he is overpaid for what he currently brings.

DET has zero reason to consider this trade, especially since they’re under internal pressure to take a step this year.

10.) 05 Dec 2023
05 Dec 2023 16:08:16
Senslayer, this proposal is wrong for Detroit on so many levels, its difficult to choose where to begin, but, let me try;

1. Detroit is not trading Seider, their only legit RHD for the next 2 or 3 years.

2. despite your lofty claim, neither Chabot or Chychrun are a top pair LHD. Both are gifted offensively, but neither is know for their defensive zone play. I have been reading other Ottawa fans on other blog sites complain about Chabots D zone performance for the last 2 years.

3. Detroit is doing just fine with the 4 LHD's on their roster - and Chabot is not an upgrade defensively to Walman, Chiarot, Maatta, and might be on a par with Gostisbehere. In addition, Detroits top 2 NHL ready prospects are both LHD's, and one of them, Edvinsson, has a highjer upside than Chabot.

This trade makes zero sense for the Wings.

And, though I said Detroit is not trading Seider, if Ottawa did want to entice Yzerman to listen to an offer, it would need to include either Tkachuk or Stutzle. Other than that, there is nothing else that Ottawa has worth considering.

In essence. dont bother picking up the phone.

11.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 22:30:52
Chickenfoot Chabot hasn't lost anything. He's still a Bonifide Top 2 Calibre DMan, Ottawa just has an abundance of those who all play the Left Side now. Tough to fully showcase what he's got when he's sharing equal minutes 3 ways and still has Branstrom also on that side. Yet he's still getting pretty much the same point totals. And 8 million for what he does is a steal.

12.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 22:43:40
Nashan as I said before, the stats don't lie. Is Seider better defensively? Sure he is. But NOT to the extent you're letting on. He's slightly better at best defensively just like Chabot is slightly better offensively.

And at 22 Chabot was also playing 2nd string to Erik Karlsson and barely had any ice time and no legit defense partner while Seider was a Top Pair guy with the best defense partner Detroit could offer. Do the math, of course Seider would have an advantage at those times. That's like me suiting up with Scott Neidermeyer as my partner and you suiting up with John Scott as your partner and me putting up better points totals and claiming I'm better than you when I can't even skate backwards and can barely stop properly lol it don't make sense to compare rookie years.

13.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 22:59:16
Lago NOT true at all dude.

Point 1 ill give you some credit sure, but they do have Edvinson on the way for that role. What exactly do they have for the Left Side? Nothing!

To point number 2, Sanderson Chychrun and Chabot are ALL TOP 2 LHD. Name 5 LHD or Left Side Defense who trump any of them?

To point 3, Chabot is a major upgrade on any of those Left side guys no matter how you look at it. I shouldn't even need to explain why. And Edvinson, pretty sure is a right side dman, NOT Left side. I could be wrong there though, not gunna bother looking it up, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Though I highly doubt Edvinson will match Chabot let alone eclipse him like you say.

And Stutzle or Tkachuk, Detroit would be adding a lot more than Seider to get either one of those guys, don't make me laugh. They are both Franchise guys while Seider is upper elite at best which is below Franchise level. Any 1 of Chabot, Chychrun, Sanderson, Norris, or Batherson with a smaller much less significant piece or 2 would be well more than enough to get something done as they are all on Seider level.

The only DMAN worth even talking about involving Stutzle or Tkachuk for would be Makar who is well above Seider level sorry to tell you.

14.) 28 Jan 2024
28 Jan 2024 16:26:08
Sorry dude - you haven't checked your facts.

First, Edvinsson is a LD, not a RD.
Second, beyond Edvinsson, Detroit has another NHL ready LD in Grand Rapids, Albert Johansson, and another who will be in 2025 in William Walinder.
Third, I think you vastly underrated Detroits current LD's. Walman, Maatta, and Chiarot are all just fine defensively. Matta is very good with the puck, and Walman has a snapshot equal to that of Chabot. He has 10 goals this season.
Fourth, you rate Chabot much higher than most folks do. He has offensive talent for sure, but, if I were to want to upgrade Detroits defense, I would never think or want to add Chabot.

Sorry dude. Have some warm milk and cookies and take a nap. Maybe you will feel better then.