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04 May 2016 05:41:06
Jvr to Pittsburg.
1.) 04 May 2016 10:50:50
Good deal.
06 Jul 2015 17:29:00
The leafs should give Nonis Phanuef back.
Anaheim - Phanuef
Leafs - Stoner, Nick Ritchie and a 3rd
Ritchie is a big dude that the leafs need since many of their top prospects are under 180lbs. Stoner is a salary dump. The 3rd pick should be a conditional where it turns into a second if the ducks make the playoffs.
What do you guys think?
1.) 06 Jul 2015 18:28:45
Not bad, I'm not sure if Anaheim would want Dions full 7m contract considering the players they will need to sign in the coming years but this seems reaonable. Maybe a 2nd instead of the 3rd?
2.) 06 Jul 2015 19:46:41
I would make these changes:
Instead of a 3rd add a 1st rounder.
Make the leafs eat up his salary. (try hard for 2.5m of eaten salary)
But again, the Ducks got Kevin Bieksa, and honestly. Now I don't even know who has more value because Phaneuf has a terrible contract. Bieksa play the same way as Phanuf but takes less salary.
3.) 06 Jul 2015 20:26:25
Anaheim could DEFINTLEY use him. The west is so conptetitive and Dion is (like it or not) a complete defender who could play a #2 or #3 position greatly. But the leafs do need to retain 1 million and the pick becomes a second
4.) 07 Jul 2015 01:12:01
The Bieksa trade almost certainly means they won't be going after a dman with a big contract. Look at their contract situation, they will regret trading Phaneuf with all there set to be free agents next year.
5.) 07 Jul 2015 17:51:00
Thats a better return than they got for kessel. Not getting that for him
6.) 07 Jul 2015 18:15:32
@vb. how so? Spallings contract is easier to move than stoners and Ritchie has as much promise as Kapenan. Both have promise and both could be a dud. Kessel was traded to the only team interested in him. Plus his attitude effected his resume. That trade wasn't a hockey trade. It was simply the only trade available. So we took it.
04 Jul 2015 16:51:38
Wondering if a trade with Edmonton would be a good idea. Since they are one of the most solid looking teams, minus a few parts. Maybe the value is off but the cap levels it out depending on what they sign Bernier for.
Edmonton trades - Yakupov, Purcell, and Ference
For
Toronto trades - Phaneuf and Bernier
1.) 04 Jul 2015 17:35:05
Two cap dumps and a solid yet unpreforming young player for a starting goaltender and a #2/3 defenceman?
Leafs pass.
2.) 04 Jul 2015 18:40:56
Uhhh, no from the Oilers. For sure. Even though getting rid of Ference would be lovely.
3.) 04 Jul 2015 20:29:53
For the first time a Edmonton leafs trade results in the leafs being totally trolled this is horrible value for Bernier and Phanuef
4.) 05 Jul 2015 00:08:59
Even if you consider Ference and Purcell cap dumps (not great contracts but still have some use) they only have one season left on each. No way Phaneuf gets a decent return unless they retain.
5.) 05 Jul 2015 01:46:41
Retain money on Phaneuf for Edm to even think about it. Oilers say no.
6.) 05 Jul 2015 06:47:53
Would take that to get bernier alone in my opinion
7.) 05 Jul 2015 08:53:33
^how so? Yak alone is easily worth more than Bernier
8.) 05 Jul 2015 15:49:00
If Toronto is retaining money, drop one of Ference or Purcell from the deal.
9.) 06 Jul 2015 05:18:08
The leafs can't retain anymore salary on another contract because we already have three, in kessel, Gunnersson and and that other Dman I'm too lazy to google or remember that Nonis randomly bought out. So in order to trade phanuef then we are taking contracts back. Yakupov is the only piece we are after.
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02 May 2016 03:44:41
I have seen many versions of the 'Auston Matthews to Arizona' trades. I think that it is possible to pull off. If it happens then we Lamoriello better get overkill for the trade in value. Otherwise the possibility of Auston Matthews becoming a the next best thing will come back to haunt us.
A trade that will land three of any of these pieces will make the trade worth while. Making sure that we will not kick ourselves later.
Their 1st pick in 2016
Duclair
Domi
Strome
Larsson
Again that is 'overkill' for a reason. Because otherwise we keep Matthews and have a solid number one center to build around. If the Leafs move down to 7th overall then they can draft a Defenceman like Chychrun.
Now that aside, trading Matthews or not, the leafs are stacked up front with young talent leaving room to part ways with a center-man to try to lure another solid defensman. Leaving Kadri and bozak available.
it will leave us with a nice team. someone make up our lines so I can see them one more time. with or without Stamkos.
1.) 02 May 2016 07:31:36
Mathews isn't worth that.
2.) 02 May 2016 07:36:03
so basically arizona trade their entire future for matthews?
3.) 02 May 2016 09:30:05
But it's the Leafs? Surely the 1st would bring back all 5 of the assets you mentioned. Maybe they'll even throw in Pirilini and Stone for Greening and Corrado lol
No team is going to want to part with multiple young players like OEL, Domi who are established. Most I can see Arizona offering is Strome+1st (Doubtful) for Matthews. Leafs can still draft a Dman in the top 10 that way. Idk. Toronto won't move the pick anyways so I don't know why I'm wasting everyone's time.
4.) 02 May 2016 13:27:51
OEL, Strome, 7th for 1st overall and Dermott
Lock it in.
5.) 02 May 2016 13:28:09
* btw I'm joking about locking it in.
6.) 02 May 2016 15:26:12
Drop the 7th pick
OEL >/ = 1st
Strome >> Dermot.
7.) 02 May 2016 16:14:32
^ i don't know if I agree entirely. In a vacuum maybe OEL is worth a first overall pick but trades don't happen in a vacuum.
In other words, I doubt you could convince TO that OEL = Matthews.
30 Jun 2015 00:48:50
Shanahan won't dump players because
he wants full value for each player.
Otherwise, we keep them and their
very high contracts. Our current roster
ends up meaning a high pick next year.
I have faith in our management.
Truly do
Unfortunately, in this process it is still
premature to what will happen.
Haters will hate but the leafs are
entering their first complete official
rebuild.
Phanuef, will go so will Kessel. But
understand that if no prospects or picks are
sent our way for the others. Then keeping
some means they are filling up cap space.
You all know losing means more high picks
Anyways. Here is the trade value
*salary retention means taking back a contract not taking off a couple mill
Phaneuf
(salary retained) a first and a prospect
or a 2nd and a prospect
Bozak
A 2nd
Or a 3rd and a b level prospect
Lupul
A 3rd
Or a 2nd (salary retained)
Kessel
A 1st a 2nd a high end prospect and a b level prospect
Or (salary retained) two 1st rounders and two prospects.
I think Pittsburgh wants Kessel but they don't have or won't give up the asking price. I think our best bet is to wait mid season to see if a young team like Calgary or Arizona are making a push for the playoffs and are interested in a sniper. That way we can take advantage of their young prospects.
1.) 30 Jun 2015 08:22:16
Wow. You highly overvalue your players. But you're a leafs fan so that doesn't really surprise me. 2 1sts and 2 prospects for Kessel? You're insane.
2.) 30 Jun 2015 20:53:48
Lol chirp. You seem like that caffeine addict on South Park. Always agitated with leaf fans. You must have nightmares with people in leaf jerseys hugging you. He's getting two firsts and 2 prospects of the leafs retain salary. Plus. Read my little hidden crostic poem I left you in my post.
3.) 30 Jun 2015 21:12:34
Well, Phaneuf value and Lupul value are somewhat okay. late 3rd for Lupul at the deadline isn't impossible. Bozak for a 2nd/3rd is okay, too. Phaneuf a 2nd and a prospect, I give you that.
But you're super far off on Kessel.
Plus, you don't know the definition of a B prospect. Think of someone like Nylander. He's a B+ prospect. So are guys like Ehlers, Larkin, Fiala, Dal Colle. You don't throw those building pieces in with a 3rd for Bozak. Let alone with 2 1sts and another prospect for Kessel.
What's Kessels value? While I don't think NSH wants him, I like to use their team to illustrate his value.
Think Colin Wilson, Ryan Ellis, prospect like Austin Watson + later pick
Or Craig Smith, Matias Ekholm, Aberg/Saros + 2nd/3rd
Or 1st rd pick, Ellis, Watson
29 Sep 2015 23:32:21
I don't agree with this trade at all. As a leaf fan, I want stamkos on our team. I do think Tbay is not going to get a full return for him. Similar to the Kessel trade with only having one trade partner. If stamkos doesn't sign and they ask him to give a list of team, I guarantee he will either say only the leafs and they will hose them or he gives a couple more teams and they don't give anything unless they are pushing for the cup or request to speak with him to negotiate a contract before they pull the trigger.
Now for all the leaf haters that have to jump on every crappy post made by a leaf fan to make themselves feel better. Go jump in a lake because there is no Calgary trade proposals for me to bash because their fans can't compete with the number of fans the leafs have.
12 Jul 2015 17:29:25
The funny thing is everyone is remembering Hertl for his first season. kadri is more consistent and has more promise. Imo
07 Jul 2015 18:15:32
@vb. how so? Spallings contract is easier to move than stoners and Ritchie has as much promise as Kapenan. Both have promise and both could be a dud. Kessel was traded to the only team interested in him. Plus his attitude effected his resume. That trade wasn't a hockey trade. It was simply the only trade available. So we took it.
06 Jul 2015 05:18:08
The leafs can't retain anymore salary on another contract because we already have three, in kessel, Gunnersson and and that other Dman I'm too lazy to google or remember that Nonis randomly bought out. So in order to trade phanuef then we are taking contracts back. Yakupov is the only piece we are after.
02 Jul 2015 16:08:38
So then let them take Phaneuf for The first. Then they can keep hall.
30 Jun 2015 20:53:48
Lol chirp. You seem like that caffeine addict on South Park. Always agitated with leaf fans. You must have nightmares with people in leaf jerseys hugging you. He's getting two firsts and 2 prospects of the leafs retain salary. Plus. Read my little hidden crostic poem I left you in my post.