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29 Jun 2022 23:14:12
Fiala traded to La for 19 + Faber
I feel like Minnesota could've gotten more so good on LA. Will be interesting to see his new contract

Hockey Dad

1.) 29 Jun 2022 23:24:14
nearly 8 mil per for 7 years. 7.8 something.

2.) 29 Jun 2022 23:28:55
Both teams did good but yeah they honestly could’ve gotten a little more for Fiala imo. LA has been making really good moves recently.

3.) 30 Jun 2022 00:10:09
Time will tell whether he’ll be consistent enough to justify $7.85mil/ ur. Yikes! But definitely a lower acquisition cost than I think most were expecting.

4.) 30 Jun 2022 01:57:29
Yeah I thought most were overvaluing him by quite a bit but even I thought he'd fetch more than that.

5.) 01 Jul 2022 02:21:35
Sandin is a good Defensemen, just undersized but he literally just turned 22 and will only improve, so he’s still worth a 1st IMO. He’s better than Valimaki so far, but Maki has the ideal size and is being brought up in a development system that believes in lots of AHL experience, so hasn’t been able to play 100 NHL games or get comfortable and in a routine yet.

Robertson is more comparable to Matthew Phillips. Pelletier should be much better than both. Robertson hasn’t done anything to warrant a higher value but is only 20-21, so is still developing.

Kerfoot is under valued and paid appropriately. Coleman’s a good comparable, but he’s bigger & tougher and better at getting shots on net and digging pucks out of the corners, while Kerfoot is smarter and a better playmaker. I don’t think Coleman earned his contract this year, but I believe he will be much better than Kerfoot next season. He usually needs a season to get adjusted to a new team. Hopefully he scores 20+ goals next season.

6.) 01 Jul 2022 03:06:12
You've been drinking too much Toronto koolaid Trevor. That stuff is spiked!



21 Jun 2022 16:53:59
Flames fans how would you feel about a Monahan + 2023 1st for Connor Brown + Austin Watson + 3rd.
Essentially exchanging two UFAs (assuming both teams can't arrange long term deals prior to the season starting) with Calgary paying their 1st to get the better one and save 4M in cap.
Ottawa gets a 1st and can give Monahan more minutes

Hockey Dad

1.) 21 Jun 2022 17:47:47
Connor Brown for Monahan sure but no way Calgary adds their 2023 first. Calgary doesn't have a first or many picks at all this year, the 2023 first is one they'll be keeping unless it's part of a package for a top 6 center or something.

2.) 21 Jun 2022 18:18:02
Get real monix. Monahan is trash. Wouldn't be worth a Connor Brown autograph without adding a 1st so they can get rid of him.

Don't mind this guy Hockey Dad, he always underrated sens players values by a mile. Your trade here ain't bad, the only thing I'd change is switch Watson with Teirney or another 3rd. Otherwise it's a decent trade.

3.) 21 Jun 2022 18:18:37
Monahan + a late pick/ Prospect for Connor Brown maybe, but I agree with @MoxNix, definitely not giving up the 1st.

4.) 21 Jun 2022 19:19:10
MyBad how many accounts do you have now? 10?

5.) 21 Jun 2022 19:19:36
@TrevorA exactly.

6.) 21 Jun 2022 21:28:42
Calgary already traded it for Toffoli no? Otherwise I don’t mind it, maybe even Monahan, 1st (26th? ) for Brown, 2nd (64th)

7.) 21 Jun 2022 21:30:47
Pretty easy to quickly say Brown is more valuable based on statistics/ more assist this season, but they both had a down year (8G in 65GP for Monahan vs. 10G in 64GP for Brown) and both missed the remainder of the season due to injury, so they're both a bit of risk, but if Monahan can get back healthy, he can be WAY better than Brown.

I'd say Brown likely played with better scoring partners as well, since Monahan was relegated to 3rd/ 4th line duties. Monahan is a Centre and is good at Faceoffs whereas Brown Kills Penalties. So in the end they're close, but to shed cap space and reunite Brown with Mangiapane, I would offer Monahan + a mid-to-late Pick or Prospect

Austin Watson is better than I thought (Hits, Kills Penalties and has decent Takeaway Giveaway Stats and Shot%), my concern is that we don't want another Tyler Pitlick and @$1.5mil/ yr, it might be best to go with Duehr. Watson's a rental worth probably a 5th RD Pick = exactly what they received for Zack Sanford

In the end, I'd do this trade if CGY sent Monahan + their 2nd and 5th RD Picks instead and received Brown + Austin + OTT's 3rd RD Pick in return.

8.) 21 Jun 2022 22:50:36
@Ebsolutely Calgary traded this year's pick for Tofolli, not next year's.

9.) 21 Jun 2022 23:25:27
So are @MyBad and @HockeyDad actually the same person with 2 accounts!? Is that what we are insinuating here, cause I could definitely see that being the case lol.

10.) 22 Jun 2022 02:31:30
A lot more than just 2 accounts.

11.) 22 Jun 2022 12:11:57
I’m not myBad. I’m just me haha.
Definitely wouldn’t do straight up. 4M more for the worse player.
It would be if Calgary wanted to sign a free agent for 4M ish and we’re cap strapped.
Ottawa will likely trade Brown for a late 1st if they can’t reach a deal with him.

12.) 22 Jun 2022 12:14:14
@myBad Monahan is trash, but he’d just be a rental. That’s why I wouldn’t do it unless there was a 1st involved.
Tierney is a ufa so we don’t have his rights anymore.

13.) 22 Jun 2022 14:26:07
Ottawa might get a late first for Brown but they aren't getting Monahan AND a late first.

In fact considering the chemistry Brown had with Mangiapane at the World Cup Calgary would trade a late first for him if they still had this year's first round pick. But it still wouldn't be Monahan AND a late first.

14.) 22 Jun 2022 17:39:52
Monahan + a 2023-4th-CGY OR Dube + a a 2023-4th-CGY with Brown 50% Ret.

They can try to get a late 1st, but I doubt Brown brings back more than a 2nd or high 3rd given he's currently a rental, only scored 10 Goals last season and is coming off a season ending wrist injury.

15.) 22 Jun 2022 18:00:57
A 1st would get you RFA C/ LW Pavel Zacha who’s >>> much greater value than Connor Brown.

16.) 23 Jun 2022 00:04:35
Nick Foligno got a 1st. Trevor I’ll bet you any money that Brown gets a late 1st.

17.) 23 Jun 2022 01:15:49
Dubass overpaying for Foligno is completely irrelevant. Connor Brown could fetch a late first but there's no chance he returns Monahan and a first.

18.) 23 Jun 2022 02:11:15
Not sure how we’d go about exchanging money, but for bragging rights, sure it’s a bet. I’m fine being wrong from time to time, it just doesn’t happen very often. I like Brown, especially when he plays with Mangiapane, but if he plays like he did this year, I just don’t see him getting a 1st Round Pick, especially as a pending UFA.

19.) 23 Jun 2022 03:51:13
So if Connor Brown is worth a 1st, than Alexander Kerfoot must be as well right!? They’re similar players with similar stats… ?

I don’t think so, they’re just not worth a 1st.

20.) 23 Jun 2022 05:02:30
I’d say these players almost have more value as UFA’s to cup contenders because they don’t effect the cap for the following season or maybe just 50% retained? Retained or UFA I could see both Kerfoot and Brown getting a 1st. Copp got a conditional 1st/ 2nd and a 2ndI believe.

21.) 23 Jun 2022 05:28:06
Good example with Copp @Ebs. I think that was an over payment for him, but did it ever work out well for Copp and the Rangers. He was a stud for the rest of the season after that trade. Definitely increased his value. Will probably demand $5.5-$6m/ yr+ On his next contract, whereas I’d say Kerfoot and Brown have probably already peaked and aren’t as desirable.

22.) 23 Jun 2022 15:24:36
Brown > Kerfoot.

23.) 24 Jun 2022 04:48:39
Here's a concept that works! Put all 3 of them together (although for the price, Dube at Centre is likely better) . Could you imagine Mangiapane with 2 Set Up Guys and if Brown got his wrist healed and shot back!?

C. Brown-A. Kerfoot-Mangiapane.



14 Jun 2022 16:31:43
Sens get Pulijarvi and Keith, Oilers get Murray (bit of retention if necessary) and a late pick.

Oilers secure their goaltender and shed a bit of cap. Sens buy low on Pulijarvi and obtain veteran leadership in their backend to mentor Sanderson, Thomson and JBD.

Hockey Dad

1.) 14 Jun 2022 17:32:20
Keith won't waive his NMC, wants to stay in the West to be closer to family. Oilers have better Free Agent Goalie options available at no acquisition cost and will get a much better return for Puljujarvi in Trade than Murray. Columbus would be a good Trade Partner for Bison King.

2.) 16 Jun 2022 16:23:13
I'm surprised by the # of down votes here. Why would Keith waive his NMC to go from a contender to OTT? Also, Oilers could pursue Kuemper, MAF, Husso, Campbell, Holtby for no acquisition cost OR Trade for Raanta or the Rights to Vanecek, Samsonov or Georgiev.

Heck, Eric Comrie and Casey DeSmith would be better Goalie acquisitions than Murray who's play has regressed significantly the past few years. John Gibson is only slightly better; his play has regressed as well.

3.) 17 Jun 2022 04:04:05
@TrevorA .906 sv percentage isn’t that bad for being on a rebuilding team.
Campbell, Husso and Gibson are all better options, but I’d they can’t get any of those, Murray is better than all those other goalies listed.

4.) 17 Jun 2022 05:05:12
I what world is Murray better than Fleury, Vancek and Samsonov?



01 Jun 2022 20:13:27
Feel like next year is playoffs or bust for Sens so expect some big moves this offseason.

JBD, Watson and 7th OA
Minnesota gets a defensive prospect to add to their system, a cheap 4th line grinder who fits right into their roster and a very good pick in this draft for a guy they can't afford.

Sign Giroux/Strome/Trochek to be the 2C

Resign Norris, Formenton, Gaudette, Joseph, Brannstrom

Call up Grieg, Sanderson, Thomson, and Kleven.

Ideal 2022/23 lineup would be:
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
Fiala - Giroux - Stutzle
Formenton - Pinto - Joseph
Kastelic - Grieg - Lodin
Chabot - Sanderson
Brannstrom - Zub
Holden - Thomson
Zaitsev - Kleven

Hockey Dad

1.) 02 Jun 2022 09:56:24
I wouldn't say playoffs or bust. There are some weaknesses they need to plug up. But I do like how they have been building themselves and aren't far off.

2.) 02 Jun 2022 14:12:29
The pick is nice but Minnesota probably asks for a better player or prospect than Docker or Watson.

Giroux is going to be looking for a shot at the cup. He'll sign with whichever contender he likes most. Or maybe he'll resign for one year with Philly and be a deadline rental again.

Strome is RFA so it's not as simple as just signing him.

Trochek could be available.

You seem to have forgotten Conner Brown entirely. Unless they can trade for Strome cheaply I'd pass on those 3 centers and if they get Fiala make Stuzle the second line center with Fiala and Brown on the wings.

3.) 03 Jun 2022 22:38:09
Very strong HELL NO! From Ottawa. Fiala for the the 7th alone is way too much, let alone adding a high end prospect like Docker and a solid role player like Watson to boot lol. Minnesota would need to add, NOT Ottawa lol.



11 May 2022 16:24:15
Devils: Fiala + Min 2022 1st
Minn: #2 overall pick

Devils get a guy they've been interested in for a while and a low first round pick.
Minnesota gets a cheap talented prospect for a guy they can't afford anyway

Hockey Dad

1.) 13 May 2022 22:22:21
Value seems about right but I think the Devils hold onto their pick anyhow.




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27 May 2022 02:14:26
I think a Dadonov trade is inevitable.

Realistically what does Vegas have to add to him to make it happen?

Hockey Dad

1.) 02 Jun 2022 22:49:55
Good player but the NTC is the problem.



05 Feb 2022 13:02:34
Pierre Dorion recently stated that Ottawa will be looking to trade their 1st this year. Realistically who should they target and what can a pick in the 5-15 range get this year?

Hockey Dad

1.) 05 Feb 2022 23:31:26
Chychrun, DeBrincat if there actually available would be good young options to trade for.




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09 Jul 2022 03:10:37
I’d say Florida declines. Jones is almost as bad of a contract as Bob and Lundell is a super skilled player.

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09 Jul 2022 01:26:49
Ottawa laughs. I’d argue both Barherson and Norris are the two best players in the trade.

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09 Jul 2022 01:26:49
I think there’s something here tho… I like Hall in Calgary and Carlo fits their team better.

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09 Jul 2022 00:45:07
Don’t need Matty. The cat > him and we got him for cheap.
Just got to make a trade for a dman and maybe a better goalie.

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07 Jul 2022 22:42:37
Way too much to Vancouver.

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