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07 Jul 2020 17:12:30
Vesalainen for logan brown.

Jets get their centre, Sens get winger to play with the depth at centre they will have after draft.


1.) 07 Jul 2020 17:34:36
No thanks from Winnipeg. The Jets don't need a 3-4C.

2.) 07 Jul 2020 18:00:16
I like Brown and with his size I think he could develop into a top 3 center, given time which is what he would get with with Jets. Its just that the Jets have a few 3/ 4 centers and what they really need a #2. If trading Ves I would like the Jets to bundle him with another play (s) or draft picks to get a true #2 center. Maybe sign TB's Cirelli to a RFA offer sheet which the Jets wouldn't do. The trade is fair but would it really make the Jets better?



08 Feb 2020 15:59:40
I don't think price will be moved, but if edmonton believes in him, price for neal and kosk.




13 Jan 2020 23:48:36
Since price offs on here lots, why not to a team that needs him?

Price to NJ for blackwood and Hirschier.


1.) 14 Jan 2020 03:40:28
No chance NJ would consider it.

2.) 14 Jan 2020 07:56:18
Price for Subban? Bad contract for bad contract ;)

As for original deal, NJ laughs and blocks MTLs number.

3.) 14 Jan 2020 21:25:24
Most teams wouldn’t take price and that contract for free.

4.) 14 Jan 2020 22:33:14
Most can’t afford his contract vbb but slot of those who can would take him.

5.) 15 Jan 2020 01:32:53
Price will most likely stay with Montreal, and I'm quite fine with that. Hopefully a few minor tweaks, and Habs can contend. All I can really hope for. moving him will he near impossible, and I have a feeling at 35, 36 whatever, he will still be better than most that are 26 27. so, until he asks for a trade ( which I wouldn't blame him), I'm sure he stays.

6.) 15 Jan 2020 14:05:04
If he can keep his head in the game like he has the last 2 games I'm fine with him staying too. I'm not getting any money on that's going to happen though.

7.) 15 Jan 2020 20:36:56
Habs are more than a couple tweaks from contending.



09 Sep 2019 07:55:13
What about not Detroit?

Winnipeg trades patrik laine

Columbus trades wennberg, Jenner, and nutivaara.

Columbus gets someone to play with Dubois, who can help sell tickets (would probably have to fire tortorella though, as he'd constantly bench laine for not playing defense).

Winnipeg gets some centre depth and another steady defender.


1.) 09 Sep 2019 10:51:56
Laine didn't fit in Columbus bcuz of the reason you mention. And Ii n pretty sure Jarmo is not acquiring a star player to fire his star coach Wich he has to do if he gets Laine.

2.) 09 Sep 2019 10:56:09
Wennberg is closer to a contract dump than a useful player, so jenner+nutty isn't close to laine. I.

3.) 09 Sep 2019 14:06:07
Nice troll.

One local rumour for teams that call about Laine is that Chevy is asking for a good, young roster player with some term and 2 firsts/ A prospects.   So, it doesn't sound like Laine will be moved unless or is a pretty good return.

The Jets needs are 2C and top 4 RHD.   Wingers, bottom pairing defenseman and goalies have minimal value to the Jets.  

So, a 3C, 4C and bottom pairing defenseman won't get you a call back.

4.) 09 Sep 2019 14:58:28
I still believe the Jets are not looking to trade Laine at this time unless it a crazy offer that Chevy can't refuse.

5.) 09 Sep 2019 19:41:28
Nutty isn’t a bottom pairing defenceman, def. not on WPG (as you liked to point out with the Nino trade, he'd be the #3 there), he isn’t enough but why exaggerate like that?

6.) 10 Sep 2019 14:33:06
Well top shelf, if we've learned anything from this site, trouba is the best defenseman on the planet and Laine is the best forward on the planet. Worth 4 1sts and top 6 forward and top 4 defenseman.

7.) 10 Sep 2019 14:56:04
Nutti and Morrisey are not that far off. Of course Morrisey is better but not by a massif margin.



06 Aug 2019 16:28:05
Still don't think leafs trade him, but

Toronto trades marner

Carolina trades slavin and svechnikov.


1.) 06 Aug 2019 16:38:17
Carolina says no. Marner doesn’t have that kind of value.

2.) 06 Aug 2019 20:59:37
If you switch Slavin with Pesce, Carolina might go for it.

3.) 06 Aug 2019 21:23:09
Vertius. out of curiosity, what type of value do you think Marner has? Top 3-10 winger in the league.

4.) 06 Aug 2019 22:32:06
He’s an elite player for sure, one of the best wingers in the league, but at the end of the day, he’s a winger asking 11+, the value just isn’t there, especially when you look at what’s coming back.

What is Svechnikov? I think it’s fair to say he has a minimum of 70 point potential, right? And let's say Marner hits 90 again (because I’m sorry Vb, but no matter how many times you say it, he ain’t getting 130) that’s a difference of 20 points.

Are you really going to sit there and tell me Slavin is only worth a 20 point forward? Hell, even a 30 point player if Svech caps at 60 points. Your going to tell me Slavin is only worth a 3rd liner?

Get out of here. No player, no matter how ‘elite’ they are, will EVER get these stupid values that fans think they should get, especially not A WINGER ASKING 11+.

Get out of here.

5.) 07 Aug 2019 00:25:45
Is it really safe to assume Svechnikov is a 70 point player though? Sure didn’t look like it last year. I know he’s still he’s young, but Marner has double the points at the same age. Svechnikov has lots to prove before making an assumption like that. Right now I see Svechnikov is a 35 point player, which is about equal the difference between Marner and Slavin.

6.) 07 Aug 2019 02:06:26
Little defensive Vertius? I asked a simple question. I didn't say it was a fair trade did I?

7.) 07 Aug 2019 06:46:29
Defensive? I answered the question. not sure what your on about?

8.) 07 Aug 2019 07:18:25
@HockeyFanatic: I think so. Svechnikov had extremely good underlying numbers last year. Everything about those stats screams breakout in Year 2. And not like his rookie season was bad, he was around 30G, 40 pt, no?

9.) 07 Aug 2019 08:52:20
130-90 is 40 bud. pre school math dog. Svechnikov isn't proven yet to be a 70+ Point player so his value is based on what he could be rather than what he is. Marner is s proven 90 Point player with 100+ potential. I agree that adding Slavin may be too much from carolina but I don’t think it’s that far off. maybe TO adds a decent prospect like bracco or a pic.

10.) 07 Aug 2019 08:54:05
LOL most players don’t even play in the NHL at 22 and he already has a 95 point season behind his back and that’s the dumbest evaluation I’ve heard in my life you really think Arizona will Trade Kessel for Pettersson? Kessel had 80 points and Pettersson had 60 that’s a 20 point difference. And no way Pettersson scores 80 points next year in sorry to say vertius that’s a 20 point difference.

News flash Marner had 69 points 2 years ago 25 point difference. 94+25=119 points that’s just mathematical projection a mathematician would conclude the probability of breaking the 115 mark is inevitable in a linear function assuming his statistical development is indeed a true function while which is obviously an irrational way of thinking but it indeed helps credit my argument. As it is the only logical of predicting his projections unless it’s a blatant guess.

11.) 07 Aug 2019 09:41:25
With Marner wanting 10m x 3yr bridge deal i'd say that's a hard pass from canes

12.) 07 Aug 2019 10:14:50
Wow, ok vbb, Patrick kane had 110 points last year, 76 the year before, with your calculations he'll get 146 points next year? That's very smart. I wish I had your knowledge of math.

13.) 07 Aug 2019 14:35:36
lol! you had me at linear function!

14.) 07 Aug 2019 15:10:35
LOOOOOOL, Vb’s deduction is great, it is SO f’ing funny how salty he gets when Marner is involved. His reactions are pathetically hilarious.

15.) 07 Aug 2019 15:16:31
I love how in your ''functions'' and ''projections'' Marner will never stop developing. Using your very idiotic math, Marner will hit 200 points at one point.
I love how you called your little fact ''irrational'' and then say that it helps your argument. You called your own evidence irrational.
The only thing that backs up your claims is made-up math.
You can't apply the math you have used to a players' development.

16.) 07 Aug 2019 16:28:51
Vertius, read your response and tell me if it sounds like your angry because it does to me. If that is you answering a simple question then you have anger issues.

17.) 07 Aug 2019 17:27:05
Read my response and tell you if I sound angry? Uh. Or I could just tell you that I’m not since, you know, I’m the one who wrote it and I know how I’m feeling.

Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean I’m somehow angry with the world. If anything, you’re the one who seems to have some issues here.

18.) 07 Aug 2019 22:30:48
I said it is an irrational way of thinking but Petterson will never be as good as Matts Sundin let alone Marner.

19.) 08 Aug 2019 03:23:41
That's funny same age of 20. Elias puts up 28goals and 38a tha ts 66 points in 71 games on a lesser team. Marner at 20 puts up 61 points in 77 games and only put up 19 goals. Marner is a winger Patterson is a center. So at this point to say Peterson will never be as good is a crap statement. Especially since Patterson is a center good luck arguing that.

20.) 08 Aug 2019 09:21:08
I’m just saying a function would suggest that not that it is accurate or even relevant the reality is it is almost certain Marner breaks 100 he’s young and he’s trending upwards. He’s going to make 10+ million because he’s a top 3RW in hockey and he deserves it. Pettersson will probably get 15 million on his next contract taking into account the increase in cap.

21.) 08 Aug 2019 09:25:15
Pettersson will never be as good as Sundin let alone Marner? LOL. You already have zero respect from anyone on this site Vb, but man, you just can’t help but dig that hole further.

I stand by what I said before. There is no chance Vb is anything but a troll. There is no way this dude doesn’t come onto this site looking to say stupid sh*t, he’s got to be fishing for reactions because no one can be this clueless.

22.) 09 Aug 2019 17:34:48
You can talk to me when Pettersson out produces Marner.




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12 Nov 2021 06:14:47
Is Connor brown worth more than monahan? Could probably just put monahan on 3rd line wing and not downgrade a draft pick.

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10 Oct 2021 18:36:01
I would try to keep gadreau, since eichel might convince gadreau to stay, or raise deadline value.




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09 Oct 2021 03:27:24
Calgary would either have to give another piece to Anaheim or replace one of their pieces to Buffalo. Zary to buf instead of steel for example.




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05 Oct 2021 12:27:40
This trade would look better if subban wasn't still making a ton.




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22 Aug 2021 23:04:30
McCann and Tanev are good players, but they will not be as good as backlund. I don't see why either team does the trade, but backlund is the best player of the 3, by a decent ga.





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