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06 Dec 2023 04:52:49
Edmonton: Jack Campbell, Dylan Holloway, Philip Broberg, 1st 2024 and 2nd 2026
Philly: Future Considerations
Edmonton gains 5 million of cap space and Holloway and Broberg haven't looked great
Philly takes on dead cap that'll last for 7 years post buyout but gets 2 solid prospects and 2 high picks for there rebuild. Holloway is built for flyers hockey.
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06 Dec 2023 14:40:24
Edmonton's 1st isn't in play without an asset coming back.
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06 Dec 2023 03:14:18
EDM - Cody Ceci
ARI - 2024 3rd
EDM - Philip Broberg, Jack Campbell, 2024 1st and 2024 3rd
CLB - Elvis Merzlikins and Andrew Peeke
EDM - Dylan Holloway and 2024 4th
CGY - Chris Tanev (50% Salary Retained)
Leon Draisaitl - Connor McDavid - Zach Hyman
Evander Kane - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Ryan McLeod
Warren Foegele - James Hamblin - Connor Brown
Adam Erne - Derek Ryan - Mattias Janmark
Mattias Ekholm - Evan Bouchard
Darnell Nurse - Chris Tanev
Brett Kulak - Andrew Peeke
Elvis Merzlikins
Stuart Skinner
Oilers upgrade significantly on D.
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06 Dec 2023 03:43:46
Definitely seems plausible 👍
I wouldn’t personally bet the Oilers season on Elvis, but EDM is known to be scouting CLB.
All in all this is very realistic to me👍.
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06 Dec 2023 03:07:20
Arizona needs another defensemen, they’ve been targeting Hanifin but maybe they could get a cheaper option. The Coyotes hold 13 draft picks in 2024. Edmonton sheds around 3mil in cap and gets a little more freedom to target a needed defensive defensemen.
EDM - Cody Ceci
ARI - 2024 3rd
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06 Dec 2023 03:00:10
If San Jose decides to rebuild this would help them out a lot, their biggest weakness is arguably D.
EDM - Philip Broberg, Jack Campbell and 2024 1st
SJS - Mackenzie Blackwood
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06 Dec 2023 02:35:54
EDM - Campbell, Foegele, 2024 1st
CBJ - Merzlikins, Peeke.
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06 Dec 2023 02:57:21
Not enough if Campbell is involved. Since Broberg is on the block, would him being throw in be enough?
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06 Dec 2023 02:30:16
Broberg on the block, McMichael has been on the block for a while. Both players could benefit from a change of scenery.
EDM - Philip Broberg
WSH - Connor McMichael
Broberg was drafted #8 in 2019, McMichael drafted #25 in 2019.
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04 Dec 2023 23:19:56
Toronto- Tyler Myers
Vancouver- Tyler Bertuzzi
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04 Dec 2023 02:55:56
CLB - Elvis Merzlikins and Adam Boqvist
EDM - Ryan McLeod, Cody Ceci and 2024 2nd
- Merzlikins is open to a change of scenery
- Jackets have been trying to trade Boqvist and Peeke
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04 Dec 2023 05:28:13
I wouldn’t want Merzlikins unless Campbell is going back the other way. Could be good trade partners though.
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04 Dec 2023 15:28:36
Columbus wants to get rid of dmen not collect another.
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03 Dec 2023 22:26:13
CGY - Noah Hanifin (50% Salary Retained)
DAL - Conditional 2024 2nd, Logan Stankoven and Nils Lundkvist
Condition: If Noah Hanifin resigns, the pick turns into their 2024 1st.
Jason Robertson - Roope Hintz - Joe Pavelski
Mason Marchment - Matt Duchene - Tyler Seguin
Jamie Benn - Wyatt Johnston - Ty Dellandrea
Sam Steel - Radek Faksa - Craig Smith
Noah Hanifin - Miro Heiskanen
Esa Lindell - Ryan Suter
Thomas Harley - Jani Hakanpaa
Dallas is one of the teams interested in Hanifin and the Flames are willing to let teams discuss a contract to raise the value.
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04 Dec 2023 00:07:55
Won’t be Stankoven- he’s one of the best AHLers that Dallas would like to keep.
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04 Dec 2023 02:53:54
@Hockey_Dads I mean, they’d have to give up something. I think this would be a fairly reasonable offer. 1st + prospect + 6th defensemen for a top pairing defensemen who you’d likely extend long-term since you’re given the opportunity to discuss a contract before the trade so you wouldnt be trading for a rental.
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04 Dec 2023 15:27:21
Bischel, Bourque (French for Huberdeau) 2024 2nd.
For an extended Hanifin and 50% this season
Just slight change but seems in the ballpark.
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04 Dec 2023 17:12:56
Yeah hahahahaha Calgary isn’t getting Stankoven or Bourque for anyone on their roster. Awful deal. Calgary will get a 1st and a prospect equivalent to a 2nd for Hanfin tops.
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04 Dec 2023 19:26:41
30th overall is basically a second.
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05 Dec 2023 11:35:09
Actually, teams can no longer offer trade conditions based on whether a player re-signs or not.
It got to a point where every time a pending free agent was traded a conditional pick was included, so they stopped allowing it in 2020. 👍.
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05 Dec 2023 13:45:08
@Chickenfoot Thanks for educating me on that, I actually had no idea that happened.
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05 Dec 2023 20:16:36
33rd overall is basically a 1st then? Yeah they’ll get a late 1st and a 2nd or a middling prospect.
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05 Dec 2023 22:48:42
CASUAL: someone educated me on that actually as well when I had proposed a similar conditional pick shortly after the change was made in 2020, so I’m happy to pass it along👍.
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02 Dec 2023 18:22:28
DET : Seider
OTT : Chabot, 2024 2nd, Sokolov
Swap of a righty for a lefty. Detroit has lots of Rightys but no real Top end lefties and Ottawa is pretty much the opposite, and with the emergence of Sanderson and the way Chychrun has looked since coming aboard the Sens, using Chabot to get a near equal level right handed young right side dman like Seider makes a lot of sense.
Sanderson Seider
Chychrun Zub
Branstrom Hamonic
Klevin.
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02 Dec 2023 20:38:29
Detroit laughs.
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02 Dec 2023 21:57:30
I don't think you'll see Detroit trading Seider.
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02 Dec 2023 22:40:25
your trading for a future $10m RHD and not getting a 1st back, not even giving up a top prospect and to top it off, Chabot will be up for a new contract before you even lose control of Seider.
lets start the convo with Stutle anbd brannstrom, and detroit can add a 1st unprotected.
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03 Dec 2023 12:31:44
Why does Detroit laugh vbbbvvbb?
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03 Dec 2023 21:48:52
@Senslayer Assuming Detroit laughs because Seider is a RHD, 4 years younger and arguably the better player.
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04 Dec 2023 19:27:37
Not arguably better player, is better player.
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04 Dec 2023 23:57:02
Nathan you can say based on your own opinion that Seider is better but the fact is, stats don't lie dude. Seiders +/ - may be better, sure, but that only because that is a team stat, NOT an individual stat which is what you need to compare when comparing 2 individuals. And last I checked when I went to school, Chabot and his 0.59 points per game trumps Seiders 0.57 points per game. Am I wrong? No, I'm not!
When it comes to the stats they are relatively equal players in every way that counts. Hence the offer. Just because someone likes one better than the other based on the team they play for, doesn't actually make that one better lol. Seider is slightly better in some ways and Chabot is slightly better in other ways.
The reason I posted this trade wasn't to upgrade or downgrade either team, as it really doesn't do anything like that, it was to level out a lopsided blueline on both teams, a little more so for Ottawa sure.
Ottawa has Chabot, Chychrun, and Sanderson who are all Top 2 Level LHD who are Left Side Naturals
Detroit has both Seider and Edvinson who are Top 2 Level RHD, or in Edvinson case, will be that.
So instead of forcing them all to play less minutes or off sides, why not make a swap that would benefit both sides? Chabot would also bring leadership and a mentor like role for Edvinson, while Seider and Sanderson would be the perfect compliment for one another. And Chychrun and Zub together would be a solid 2nd pair for Ottawa.
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05 Dec 2023 04:09:55
At 22 chabot had.44 pts per game if you want to compare. I am not comparing points I watch the play away from the puck and Seider is far better and is only 22 lots of improvement still to come. I also not sure if any team would trade bonifide #1 dman.
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05 Dec 2023 11:44:38
I remember Stevie Y going off the board to draft Seider, and wow…did he ever know what he was doing.
Chabot has lost his game, but is still a young man, and can find it again. Nonetheless, at 8M/ season he is overpaid for what he currently brings.
DET has zero reason to consider this trade, especially since they’re under internal pressure to take a step this year.
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05 Dec 2023 16:08:16
Senslayer, this proposal is wrong for Detroit on so many levels, its difficult to choose where to begin, but, let me try;
1. Detroit is not trading Seider, their only legit RHD for the next 2 or 3 years.
2. despite your lofty claim, neither Chabot or Chychrun are a top pair LHD. Both are gifted offensively, but neither is know for their defensive zone play. I have been reading other Ottawa fans on other blog sites complain about Chabots D zone performance for the last 2 years.
3. Detroit is doing just fine with the 4 LHD's on their roster - and Chabot is not an upgrade defensively to Walman, Chiarot, Maatta, and might be on a par with Gostisbehere. In addition, Detroits top 2 NHL ready prospects are both LHD's, and one of them, Edvinsson, has a highjer upside than Chabot.
This trade makes zero sense for the Wings.
And, though I said Detroit is not trading Seider, if Ottawa did want to entice Yzerman to listen to an offer, it would need to include either Tkachuk or Stutzle. Other than that, there is nothing else that Ottawa has worth considering.
In essence. dont bother picking up the phone.
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02 Dec 2023 17:23:00
Toronto: Chris Tanev 50% retained
Calgary: Roni Hirovinen, NYI 3rd round pick and Calgarys 5th round pick ( leafs own it )
I believe Tanev will be a leaf by the deadline and I feel like the return will be similar to this. Most will say it's not enough but this is the typical going rate for comparable dman with the flat cap.
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03 Dec 2023 02:24:39
I think you’re right honestly
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04 Dec 2023 15:29:44
Hirovinen can’t even get the call on a beat up not so good Leaf’s d. No thx on him.
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04 Dec 2023 17:14:12
Well he probably hasn’t got a call up on the leafs d because he’s a centre lol.
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04 Dec 2023 17:23:20
@Nashan you know Hirovienen is a forward right? Based on the cap and what some other players was are fetching, I'd say this will pretty close. Could see potentially a higher pick (not a first) if there becomes a bidding war.
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04 Dec 2023 19:20:19
Thx MG. Must have been looking at one of the Fin defencemen. my bad. Still wouldn’t want him lol.
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04 Dec 2023 20:29:20
@Nasher probably thinking of Niemela or Kokkonen
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04 Dec 2023 20:29:31
@Nashan* oops
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