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02 Jun 2023 14:06:51
To Chicago Blackhawks :
15th Overall Selection in 2023 - NSH
C/RW - Ryan Johansen ( 8.00 @ 2 UFA )
47th Overall Selection in 2023 - NSH

To Nashville Predators :
94th Overall Selection in 2023 - CHI


To Chicago Blackhawks :
28th Overall Selection in 2023 - TOR
G - Matt Murray ( 4.68 @ 1 UFA )
D - Timothy Liljegren ( 1.40 @ 1 RFA )

To Toronto Maple Leafs :
99th Overall Selection in 2023 - CHI



Taylor Raddysh - Connor Bedard - Ryan Johansen
Jason Dickinson - Tyler Johnson - Philipp Kurashev
Boris Katchouk - Mackenzie Entwistle - Anders Bjork
Reese Johnson - Colin Blackwell - Auston Wagner

Caleb Jones - Seth Jones
Nolan Allan - Connor Murphy
Jarred Tinordi - Nikita Zaitsev / Timothy Liljegren


They’re obviously gonna make some free agent signings but holy f**k this Blackhawks team is so bad lmao, also Johansen fell off so hard. But apparently Chicago wants some first round picks and is willing to take on bad contracts that’s why I made these trades.

02 Jun 2023 17:23:11
If Toronto is giving up on liljgren id be happy with the second trade but think still needs a small tinkering. First one i think would be an overpayment by Nashville unless last option to get out of hiss contract. fun to see chicago have 2 1st round picks from bad goalie signings.

02 Jun 2023 18:36:44
Lol both trades are awful. The leafs will just buyout Murray and call it a day. Johanson also doesn’t have Negative value.

02 Jun 2023 19:08:03
Johansen definitely has negative value IMO but Nashville is due for a retool and they’ve already started, keep the 15th pick and a decent veteran. In two seasons he’ll be gone and the 15th pick will be ready, they’d be way farther ahead to do that.

02 Jun 2023 23:20:05
Wdym he doesn’t have negative value? They’re paying him 8mil to put up 28pts lmao

01 Jun 2023 06:56:26
To Toronto Maple Leafs :
LD/RD - Cam Fowler (4.22 @ 3 UFA)
(35% Retained Salary)
LW - Max Comtois (RFA)

To Anaheim Ducks :
1st Round Pick in 2023 - BOS
RW - Nicholas Moldenhauer (unsigned)
RD - Timothy Liljegren (1.40 @ 1 RFA)
G - Matt Murray (4.68 @ 1 UFA)


To Toronto Maple Leafs :
RD - Brett Pesce (4.02 @ 1 UFA)
RW - Seth Jarvis (894k @ 1 RFA)

To Carolina Hurricanes :
RW - William Nylander (6.96 @ 1 UFA)



Matthew Knies - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Ryan O'Reilly - John Tavares - Seth Jarvis
Michael Bunting - Calle Jarnkrok - Nic Robertson
Max Comtois - Noel Acciari - Sam Lafferty

Morgan Rielly - Brett Pesce
Cam Fowler - TJ Brodie
Mark Giordano - Jake McCabe

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll

31 May 2023 12:47:47
Habs edmunson 50%retain - 4th pick mtl

Wsh- mantha-2nd round pick

Habs- armia-hoffman 50 %retain- 2nd pick wsh- 2nd pick col 2024

Arz- 6th pick

Habs- harris- 2nd pick mtl

Van- 1st pick van -myers

Then at next deadline habs can flip and retain on mantha and myers

Mantha-suzuki-caufield
Slaf-dach-anderson
Rhp-dvorak-gallagher
Belzile-evans-pezetta
Pitlick


Matheson-savard
Guhle-myers
Xhekaj-barron/mailloux/kovacevic

31 May 2023 16:14:19
The first part of this is a MTL-WAS trade. (I wouldn't do it, but I can follow what you're saying. )

There appears to be a second trade. but it's hard to follow as written. Looks like you're proposing a 3-way trade, but it doesn't seem to make any sense. Maybe you can reply and clarify who is trading what to whom? (The ARI 6th doesn't seem to jibe with the packages MTL & VCR are giving up? )

31 May 2023 23:32:54
6th rounders.

02 Jun 2023 03:23:13
I'm sorry but that Vancouver one looks terrible!


🚫 No Homer Trades.

30 May 2023 16:15:03
Arizona Trades
Keller
Crouse
Schmaltz
Cooley (Big-10)

Toronto Trades
Matthews
WNylander


Would Arizona and Toronto have a true blockbuster like my proposal ?

It's the fun time to be an armchair GM and with all these players involved being possibly moved including Cooley staying in College, and not convinced he ever signs with Arizona would this work for both teams in there situations?


Thoughts ?

30 May 2023 19:42:58
This does not make Arizona a playoff team so they decline.

31 May 2023 10:19:36
- the whole league knows Matthews and Nylander aren’t winners, and both have one year left in their current deal.

- why would ARI trade 4 young building blocks and sacrifice their rebuild for salaries they can’t afford to pay?

Think it through Pinball…the rest of the league doesn’t exist to restock your leafs. You have to propose trades that make sense for both sides. This isn’t close to realistic bud.

🚫Homer Deals.

31 May 2023 18:21:22
Matthews to ARI makes sense in terms of it making the franchise more money as a whole. Does it make them a playoff team. I truly don't know. They went 28-40-14 last season relying heavily on Keller. Could Arizona wait another year and take a run at him, absolutely. But for a team trying to create an argument as to why there should be hockey in the desert and increase revenue, adding a top player in the league would definitely help the case. especially one from the state. Like it's been stated on other things a deal would have to be in place or Toronto wouldn't get an ideal return for him. As for the trade itself don't see Arizona parting with any of those pieces except maybe Cooley and that would only be if they think he's not gonna sign with them at all. I think they have some of those big dead contracts coming off the books this season so they'd have the cap to make some moves. Don't think the Leafs package Matthews and Nylander in one deal, probably be two seperate deals.

29 May 2023 06:26:59
Habs- 5th overall-farell-harris-edmundson and armia, hoffman as dump


Arz- keller-mcbain


Slafkovski-suzuki-caufield
Keller-dach-anderson

29 May 2023 13:13:10
Habs decline and will make the 5th pick. ARI declines as well.

27 May 2023 14:11:46
Philly: 7th overall, Kevin hayes. Chicago:19th overall,chi 2nd, tb 2nd rd all this year, Dallas 2nd 2025. Thinking is Philly trying to trade hayes for a while and rebuild. Chicago could get michkov because i doubt any teams above will wait a few years for him, but chicago will be right in their upswing and end of hayes contract. Subject to hayes 12 teams but already screwed Chicago once so probably not a fit but an idea.

29 May 2023 03:36:19
I doubt that’s enough but maybe.

26 May 2023 16:23:49
Anaheim Trades
McTavish
2nd Overall Pick 2023
60th Overall Pick 2023

Toronto Trades
Matthews
28th Overall Pick 2023

Anaheim with a ton of Cap Space can make this happen money wise including signing an extension (a sign and trade would have to be in place) to make it work for The Ducks, Matthews is young enough that he would fit with the rebuild.

Leafs are still in a Cap Space issue, trading Matthews helps huge and restocks the team going forward with Cap Space added, McTavish and probably Fantilli will be the next wave of young forwards coming in, I have heard none of the core 4 will be traded but if a proposal like this is in play you would have to consider it for both teams.


Thoughts ?

26 May 2023 17:36:03
Far too much for Matthews. If he wants to sign in Anaheim and Toronto wants that much, just wait the year and keep the assets, or wait until Toronto's ask is at least reasonable.

No point in gutting the prospect depth you've been building up to get him a year early when he won't make you a contender anyways.

26 May 2023 20:52:57
memarcusjoe
Gutting the prospect pool?
Matthews isn't a 30+ Centre in decline, if anything he is about to hit his prime.
This would be an opportunity for Anaheim to add one of the best Centres in The NHL, don't expect Matthews to be on the market after next season, if it isn't Toronto it will be a team that trades for him before July 1.
Adding him now gives Anaheim 2 extra years as only the team owning his rights can sign him for 8 years, you include next season that's 9 years compared to 7 years as a UFA.
I believe if this proposal is out there both teams would be interested imo.

26 May 2023 21:58:37
Sorry Pinball it isn't good for Anaheim. You want two top 3 picks for one year of Matthews. Anaheim tells you to pound sand. He's good, but not that good especially when you factor in his current contract and add his next in there as well.

It's unlikely Matthews signs an 8 year deal imo. He'll sign another short to medium one and try to cash in again.

As I said he doesn't help Anaheim much next year, so if he wants to sign there that bad, they can wait and keep the 2 top 3 assets.

27 May 2023 14:47:25
Seems better than usual but Anaheim would easily refuse. McTavish is really good and fantelli may be better than matthews.

27 May 2023 16:59:39
If a leafs did something extremely unethical like sign him to a 8 year contract and now he’s off the market teams can no longer sign him he’s a leaf and he wants to be a leaf then they turned around and traded him before his NMC kicks in then this would be fair but that’s not going to happen. He’s worth slightly more then what Erik Karlsson got at the moment. In theory yes you can wait until free agency but then you lose certainty.

28 May 2023 22:25:02
vbbbvbb
That's why I stated a sign and trade, Calgary did that last off season with Tkachuk and Florida.

29 May 2023 13:23:45
Memarcus nailed it.

If you're trying to get a great regular season team, Matthews is your guy.

If you're trying to build a winner, get someone with heart.

Last but not least, the other 31 teams do not exist to save the leafs from their own bad asset management. Dubas inherited a sweet hand and played it very poorly. Cue the next rebuild.

29 May 2023 18:52:41
Thanks chickenfoot 👍🏻.

30 May 2023 04:13:45
Why would a playoff team rebuild? Teams make money by being competitive and the leafs are. They make more money by getting bounced in round 1 every year then they would not making playoffs. Just a dumb take the leafs wont rebuild just like they won’t move Mathews, Nylander, Marner, Rielly or Tavares.