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10 Feb 2024 15:05:10
Heard rumors that buffalo is looking to trade mittlestad for a goalie


Buff- mittlestad

Nsh- askarov- fabro

Thoughts?

10 Feb 2024 21:06:37
Might do just askarov for mittelstadt straight up.

13 Feb 2024 19:03:32
Askarov wont be moved.

19 Oct 2023 09:31:19
To Vancouver Canucks:
RD - Henri Jokiharju (2.50 @ 1 RFA)

To Buffalo Sabres:
RW - Conor Garland (4.95 @ 3 UFA)


Andrei Kuzmenko - Elias Pettersson - Brock Boeser
Pius Suter - J.T. Miller - Ilya Mikheyev
Phil Di Giuseppe - Teddy Blueger - Anthony Beauvillier
Nils Hoglander - Sam Lafferty - Dakota Joshua

Quinn Hughes - Filip Hronek
Carson Soucy - Tyler Myers
Ian Cole - Henri Jokiharju

Thatcher Demko
Casey DeSmith


Jeff Skinner - Tage Thompson - Alex Tuch
John Peterka - Dylan Cozens - Conor Garland
Jordan Greenway - Casey Mittelstadt - Peyton Krebs
Zemgus Girgensons - Tyson Jost - Kyle Okposo

Rasmus Dahlin - Mattias Samuelsson
Owen Power - Erik Johnson
Jacob Bryson - Connor Clifton

Devon Levi
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen

20 Oct 2023 03:26:35
Add benson and Quinn to that lineup and no need for garland.

21 Oct 2023 01:09:36
Buffalo does not need Garland at all.

09 Oct 2023 20:31:59
Buffalo:
W. Nylander RW
N. Robertson RW

Toronto:
O. Powers D

09 Oct 2023 23:21:14
Did you change your screen name Pinball?

09 Oct 2023 23:44:26
MEMARCUS: “Les Habitants “ only posts leaf-friendly deals while posing as a Habs fan.

(Kinda funny that someone is so ashamed of their actual team that they pretend to be a fan of another eh? ?)

10 Oct 2023 01:51:53
memarcusjoe
Nope this isn't me or my post.

11 Oct 2023 03:44:51
As a Habs fan I believe this trade is not overly inclined in one direction. Could be worst, Leafs may need a better sweetener then Robertson 2 get Pow or a pick on top.

11 Oct 2023 13:02:27
Buffalo hangs up the phone and it ain't even close.

Nylander is a 27 year old winger with 1 year left on his contract. Robertson is an unproven, undersized, injury prone 22 year old who has played a total of 82 games split between the AHL/NHL over the past 3 seasons. Power is 20 years old and was drafted #1 overall in 21'. He is a big 6'6 skilled defensemen going into his second pro season. You actually think Buffalo or any team takes an offer like that? Even with Nylander extended it wouldn't be close.

11 Oct 2023 13:36:24
JAnderson: 1 year of Nylander before he hits the market as a UFA & oft-injured former/ small prospect Robertson does not get you Owen Power, regardless of who you cheer for.

Consider:

- Owen Power is only 20, yet had 35 points in 79 games, showing why he was drafted 1st overall.

- At 6-6, 214, the kid is a monster who can skate, and is a +38 in his first 87 NHL games.

Power has come as advertised, and I would suggest that aside from the most die-hard leaf fans that this is not a credible trade offer. BUF has a serious piece in Power, and through years of mediocrity have really built a compelling young core prospect group.

12 Oct 2023 11:57:57
I can not stand William Nylander, however he’s a top 10 winger in the game and that is not debatable. He’s worth at least 3/ 4 of Owen Power’s worth.

12 Oct 2023 15:36:57
You’re taking about a 1st overall potential franchise D for a really good UFA winger.

12 Oct 2023 18:20:06
JAndersonBPF: respectfully, I do not see Nylander as worth 3/ 4 of Owen Power's value, nor do I see Robertson making up the other 1/ 4, based on the reasons included in my reply to you.

12 Oct 2023 20:47:15
@JAndersonBPF the Sabres can just sign Nylander in free agency lol

03 Sep 2023 23:21:35
To Calgary Flames :
C - Peyton Krebs ( 863k @ 1 RFA )
LW - Victor Olofsson ( 4.75 @ 1 UFA )
1st Round Pick in 2024 - BUF

To Buffalo Sabres :
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )
C - Mikael Backlund ( 5.35 @ 1 UFA )

Reasons :
Noah Hanifin & Mikael Backlund are rumoured to want out.
Buffalo wants to make the playoffs, they have been really interested in Hanifin since the Draft and have 8mil in cap space.
Krebs has been extremely disappointing but I think the Flames would take the risk. Olofsson has been rumoured to be on the trading block for some time now.


Jonathan Huberdeau - Elias Lindholm - Matt Coronato
Victor Olofsson - Nazem Kadri - Andrew Mangiapane
Jakob Pelletier - Peyton Krebs - Yegor Sharangovich
Dillon Dube - Blake Coleman - Walker Duehr

Mackenzie Weegar - Rasmus Andersson
Oliver Kylington - Chris Tanev
Nikita Zadorov - Jordan Oesterle


Jeff Skinner - Tage Thompson - Alex Tuch
JJ Peterka - Dylan Cozens - Casey Mittelstadt
Jordan Greenway - Mikael Backlund - Jack Quinn
Zemgus Girgensons - Tyson Jost - Kyle Okposo

Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Dahlin
Mattias Samuelsson - Owen Power
Connor Clifton - Erik Johnson

06 Sep 2023 00:20:20
Take out backlund and is close.

06 Sep 2023 00:23:20
No responses……. lol. I’m thinking Buffalo needs one of their prospects added. Especially if it is sign and trade. Which is what the Flames should do.

06 Sep 2023 19:10:31
No one wants Hanfin. I can’t wait to see him moved for a couple of 2nds or maybe a late 1st at the deadline.

07 Sep 2023 01:05:41
I know right. Who would want a 26 yr old 6’3” 210 lb half a point per game great skating dman? I don’t know.

07 Sep 2023 18:32:45
Just because you’re attracted to men at that height and weight doesn’t mean other men in those positions are.

07 Sep 2023 20:20:56
Well today some website is saying hanifan and mangiapane for nylander and liljegren and prospect. I hope that happens so vbb can start saying what a bargain defenseman he is.

08 Sep 2023 10:13:30
Nashan made a great point and backed it up.

Then he receives a homophobic reply.

Nashan - that just means he can’t counter your logic. He is what he is, and you are 100% correct.

24 Aug 2023 08:00:48
To Toronto Maple Leafs:
RD - Brett Pesce (4.02 @ 1 UFA)
RW - Seth Jarvis (894k @ 1 RFA)
2nd Round Pick in 2024 - CAR

To Carolina Hurricanes:
RW - William Nylander (6.96 @ 1 UFA)


To Toronto Maple Leafs:
RD - Jani Hakanpaa (1.50 @ 1 UFA)

To Dallas Stars:
3rd Round Pick in 2024 - NYI
RD - Conor Timmins (1.10 @ 1 RFA)
LW - Nicholas Robertson (796k @ 1 RFA)


To Toronto Maple Leafs:
LW/RW - Jordan Greenway (3.00 @ 2 UFA)

To Buffalo Sabres:
LD - Jake McCabe (2.00 @ 2 UFA)


Brett Pesce would be an incredible add for the Leafs defense, Jarvis has good potential and was solid in the playoffs.
Jani Hakanpaa registered 224 Hits (#4) last season and is exactly the type of defensemen that the Leafs need.
Leafs get bigger by adding Jordan Greenway.


Tyler Bertuzzi - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Max Domi - John Tavares - Seth Jarvis
Matthew Knies - Calle Jarnkrok - Jordan Greenway
Sam Lafferty - David Kampf - Ryan Reaves

Morgan Rielly - Brett Pesce
TJ Brodie - John Klingberg
Mark Giordano - Jani Hakanpaa / Timothy Liljegren

Ilya Samsonov
Joseph Woll

24 Aug 2023 13:43:38
As a Leafs fan I wish all of this would happen. Unfortunately I don't believe any of it would.

24 Aug 2023 15:36:12
#4 in hits for defensemen is what I mean to say #15 overall

24 Aug 2023 19:34:39
Toronto would need to add more to Carolina and it would have to be a sign and trade even still. Could see Leafs adding Liljgren or Niemela and Jarnkrok.

30 Aug 2023 06:06:14
Jarvis might be too much, my opinion peces cap hit to nylander is not far off. Peces and a first because it'll be a late first most like. Others opinions?

14 Aug 2023 18:55:26
Calgary. Hanifin and Backlund(50%). Buffalo. Krebs Peterka and 2024 second.

15 Aug 2023 16:27:53
- Hanifin is a LD, and so is Dahlin & Power.

- While Dahlin & Power can also play RD, most coaches on contending teams will be more likely to play their D on their natural side, and BUF is definitely closing in on a playoff spot this season.

- I see BOS finding a way to sign hometown boy Hanifin next year as a free agent, which would make their top-4 D amongst the best in the league.

15 Aug 2023 19:52:31
Hi chickenfoot good statement and I agree but there is a shortage of RHD for some reason lol. The reason for suggesting this trade is because I’m thinking Buffalo will make playoffs and some experience will help. Power has and can play right side. Hanifin would be a perfect partner for him.

15 Aug 2023 23:02:54
Isn’t that odd about the shortage of RHD? I too find that kind of funny.

Dahlin and Power are freakishly talented, so perhaps they would be more than capable of switching to the right side. If so, I would tend to agree that they would form one heck of a D corps, and they’d all have size too.

Interesting take Nashan ?.

19 Jul 2023 12:51:27
Anaheim Trades
Gibson

Buffalo Trades
Luukkonen
Lyubushkin
1st Round Pick 2024
2nd Round Pick 2025

Thoughts ?

19 Jul 2023 14:38:41
Huge overpay.

19 Jul 2023 17:12:59
I’m not sure if Gibson has positive value. He reminds me of OEL when traded from Arizona 3 seasons removed from being a star. Gibson has been awful and is signed to a high cap hit.

I’d bet against him having positive value. I’d think Anaheim would be happy to get out of his contract.

25 Jul 2023 14:39:42
In with vbb, they're gonna have to convince a team to take him more then teams banging down the doors for him. Goalie market is so open. There's like 6 elite goalies and gibson isn't one of them. Teams win cups without elite goalies these days. 2 pretty good goalies for the price of an elite is better because you just play the hot goalie.

16 Jul 2023 18:33:04
Posted as a comment fee days but like I said a few days ago, if buffalo and calgary talking, definitely not lindholm calgary: Hanifan Buffalo: jokiharju , peterkara.

16 Jul 2023 22:07:38
They have Dahlin and Power on the left side. Hanfin on the 3rd pair is to big of a luxury for a wildcard contender.

17 Jul 2023 13:38:38
VB - the last two comments you've posted are bang-on.

17 Jul 2023 13:40:38
Yes, but he can play both and his price makes a fit with almost quite a lot of teams. Buffalo talking to Calgary i dont see anything but hanifan unless they want to sell the farm for lindholm.

17 Jul 2023 18:43:54
Lots of players make more sense then Hanfin. They lack defensive minded forwards so Backlund and Dube make sense especially backlund.

Honestly Zandorov also would make sense on the bottom pair. I want him no where’s near the leafs but Buffalo lacks that physicality on the backend. Honestly probably the perfect spot for him on that bottom pair.

18 Jul 2023 03:26:10
Vbb, you make sense. If calgary is trading with buffalo i doubt its lindholm though. Backlund I only see them dealing him if he's definitely not signing in calgary. But similar return for Backlund and zadorov than just lindholm. My opinion though.

13 Jul 2023 14:29:18
Leafs need to move on from Willy, he wants his bag more than he wants to win.

Leafs trade

Nylander

Buffalo trade

Jack Quinn
Victor Olofsson
Isla Rosen

13 Jul 2023 17:45:01
Far too much from Buffalo.

13 Jul 2023 19:12:41
kyle98.Willy learned that from Austin.

14 Jul 2023 03:36:30
A little too much coming from Buffalo but it’s closer than people think imo.

14 Jul 2023 05:15:23
Buffalo doesn’t move Quinn for Nylander.

11 Jul 2023 16:10:47
Buffalo Trades
Krebs
Lyubushkin
1st Round Pick 2024

Calgary Trades
ELindholm

Each Team going opposite directions as Calgary needs to sell off and retool/rebuild, while The Sabres are probably this upcoming seasons NJ Devils and ready to push as a contender.


Thoughts ?

11 Jul 2023 18:02:53
Drop Lybushkin then it’s solid but I think they target a dman or goalie before a forward.

12 Jul 2023 14:02:39
Super unreliable source that came up with this by the way. The guy runs his website like hes posting here. If they're talking, Probably hanifan and jokikarju, peterka, maybe Krebs. and weak calgary add. The guy threw out Krebs name cause hes from okotoks. Hes definitely not calgarys kind of guy judging from there draft.

11 Jul 2023 04:21:36
Bookmark this and look back on this I'll be calling out the people when Helly is traded.

Right now the market for Helly is tiny ( New Jersey and Buffalo )

I'm betting he heads to Jersey as there is mutual interest there and Buffalo is very frugal with their assets.

Goalies tend to have little value and the most a goalie has gotten were A. Schnider a young cost controlled goalie coming off a phenomenal playoff run with Vancouver B. Ryan Miller ( comparable to Helly imo )

People are going to really be surprised on the little value he brings in. I'd say 75% chance he's moved if not the Jets will ride out his contract because they are still a playoff team in there division and a playoff team trading there élite starting goalie mid season is a disservice to season ticket holders and the players on the team.

With that being said here is my vague estimate on what he returns.

New Jersey: Vanacek and a 1st 2024

Winnipeg: Hellybuck ( 50% retained )- yes If they move Helly that signals a rebuild so they will retain on him to maximize value very likely

Or

New Jersey: Vanacek, B level prospect and a 2nd 2024

Winnipeg: Hellybuck ( 50% retained )

I'm very interested to see his return. Vanacek is pretty solid and honestly in the long run maybe he's a better option then whatever Helly gets payed ( Loulongo, Price and Bob come to mind )

Dark horse team: LA kings don't think they do it with Copley and Talbot set but it's possible

11 Jul 2023 13:35:49
It's hard to say what the return will be if they trade Hellebuyck. There aren't any real comparables in recent history as elite goalies rarely get traded and Miller and Schneider just aren't the same level. However, your trade looks reasonable, you just may be a decent prospect light on it, especially with retention.

Because as you say, if goalies don't have much value, you're basically just oferring a late first for Hellebuyck, which likely doesn't do it. Chevy is a grinder and has shown he will get good returns on players when everyone else is saying he will get nothing.

11 Jul 2023 16:02:47
Although I agree that goalies don't get back a good return in trades.
Helly wanting $9+ mil a year doesn't make finding a trading partner easy for the Jets.
I believe that the Jets could do better than Vanacek and a 1st if he is traded before the season starts.
If he is moved at the trade deadline the Jets will most likely have to settle for an A prospect and a #1 draft pick but nothing better than a middle 6 forward or a 3rd pairing d-man.
Neither of those type of players would help the Jets.
Trades are hard to get a fair return in this new NHL.

11 Jul 2023 18:11:07
I dissagree on Miller. I think he’s better then Helly when he was moved. He did win a vezina on a horrid team and his numbers were among the top consistently again on a weak team also he had 2 Olympic medals at the time of the deal. He fell off a cliff after but at the time he was a top 5 goalie during the peak of goaltending in the 21st century.

11 Jul 2023 19:06:22
Well said Memarcus and Jet.

Chevy has shown himself to be a shrewd trader, so I expect him to do something worthwhile or nothing at all. He certainly exceeded expectations with the Dubois trade considering he was moving a distressed asset. Full respect?.

11 Jul 2023 23:03:56
I'm waiting for the deangelo to Carolina trade to go down before I bookmark anything by you vb, with all do respect.

12 Jul 2023 10:25:58
Sounds like nj is out. Im torn on hellybuck, hes top few goalies in the league now but a free agent at 31 and gonna want 8 mil and too many years. Only makes sense if he can win them 1 cup this year and hope he will sign for 5 years or less. I definitely can see gm's reluctance.

12 Jul 2023 13:10:05
SHOOTS: you bring an interesting perspective man. You're a well thought out cat?.

08 Jul 2023 15:17:03
Buffalo Trades
Tuch
Lyubushkin*
2nd Round Pick 2024

Toronto Trades
WNylander

*Buffalo retains 50% of Lyubushkin's expiring contract.


With Treliving at a point of having to make a choice of what to do with WNylander this is the type of proposal that I believes works, there would be more to do but this one starts the ball rolling.

Buffalo has added on Defense and at this point Lyubushkin is expendable to trade, adding WNylander over Tuch makes them better at RWing also.


Thoughts ?

08 Jul 2023 19:24:39
Tuch's value is probably very similar to Nylander's value, and on top of that, he's got a great contract. No way Buffalo wants this

10 Jul 2023 09:02:48
Why does pinball talk about other teams need to eat contracts so Toronto can do good. Toronto is in the worst shape and needs to take terrible deals.

07 Jul 2023 12:50:45
Buffalo Trades
Tuch
Lyubushkin
2nd Round Pick 2024

Toronto Trades
WNylander
Brodie

Thoughts ?

08 Jul 2023 03:27:55
Toronto gets robbed, you'd do that a Leafs fan?

08 Jul 2023 03:29:35
Oops wrong post, I was talking about the trade below. This is a very fair trade in my opinion.

22 Jun 2023 00:40:22
To Buffalo Sabres :
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )

To Calgary Flames :
13th Overall Selection in 2023 (1ST) - BUF
C/LW - Peyton Krebs ( 863k @ 1 RFA )



Jeff Skinner - Tage Thompson - Alex Tuch
Victor Olofsson - Dylan Cozens - Jack Quinn
JJ Peterka - Casey Mittelstadt - Jordan Greenway
Zemgus Girgensons - Tyson Jost - Kyle Okposo

Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Dahlin
Mattias Samuelsson - Owen Power
Jacob Bryson - Henri Jokiharju

Devon Levi
Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen



Jonathan Huberdeau - Elias Lindholm - Tyler Toffoli
Peyton Krebs - Nazem Kadri - Matt Coronato
Jakob Pelletier - Mikael Backlund - Andrew Mangiapane
Dillon Dube - Blake Coleman - Walker Duehr

Mackenzie Weegar - Rasmus Andersson
Oliver Kylington - Chris Tanev
Nikita Zadorov - Troy Stecher

Jacob Markstrom
Dustin Wolf

22 Jun 2023 01:55:47
I have Dahlin and Power on the right side because they have played a good portion on the right side and Capfriendly has them listed as LD/RD. Buffalo is interested in Hanifin and they really want another defensemen to take the workload off Dahlin. My reasoning just incase someone’s confused.

22 Jun 2023 07:30:39
If there’s an extension in place I think the value is decent!

22 Jun 2023 21:40:31
That’s more then what Bo Horvat got. He’s probably worth a 2nd and a prospect right now or a 1st at the deadline. Extremely overrated player and a complete lack of research to find a comparable.

23 Jun 2023 00:03:27
Horvats value was inflated and it was obvious he’d need to be overpaid to extend. He was also traded at the deadline and not at the beginning of the season. Would it be possible for Buffalo to trade back then make the deal? I don’t know I think the fit is good and the value isn’t terrible.

23 Jun 2023 01:56:22
vbbbvvbb Hanafin can play on a first or second pairing on a lot of teams. With a cap hit under $5mill and only a year left a playoff bound team likely gives up a 1st and a decent prospect for him if 50% of his salary is retained. Let's call it $2.45mill for a guy who adds to your defensive depth and is capable of slotting in on any of the pairings is easily worth what I said for a playoff bound team looking to make a run.

23 Jun 2023 04:28:24
Make it a 2024 1st, maybe a better solution to lowering the value of the 1st.

23 Apr 2023 21:13:13
Hypothetical DeBrincat trades

Ott: DeBrincat

For the 5th overall

Ott : DeBrincat, 2nd in 2024, and a 3rd in 2025

For the 4th overall

Ott : DeBrincat

Nyr : Zibanejad

Ott : DeBrincat, Jarventie

Nyr : Lafreniere, Kakko, 2nd (any year in the next 5 drafts, becomes a 1st if Rangers win the cup in any of those years)

Ott : DeBrincat, Sokolov, 2025 3rd

Buf : Peterka, Savoie, buf 2023 1st

Ott : DeBrincat, 2024 2nd

Col : Byram, Lehkonen

Ott : DeBrincat, Formenton

Lak : Clarke, Byfield, 2023 1st.

24 Apr 2023 04:54:35
Last two trade proposals must be trolling to get people to respond. (ya got me)

For the record, these are all bad. Why sell low on a guy. c'mon man.

? Homer Trades.

24 Apr 2023 17:57:00
I’m with the Bee ?.

24 Apr 2023 20:19:46
I wouldn’t trade after a down year. I think he can mesh well with the guys (same age) and get a groove going. He doesn’t seem too opposed to resigning either so If the AAV is reasonable then why not.
-Think of it this way, you won’t get someone better who can help out immediately in the trade.

24 Apr 2023 23:37:03
Lol Debrincat was traded coming off of a career year now he’s a RFA with less term control. The sens payed a 7th overall pick in a weak draft for him he’s worth less now due to underplaying and term control so now he’s probably worth around the 14th overall pick.

25 Apr 2023 02:45:30
So much wrong with a lot of these responses it's crazy. Where to start?

Well first. 2022 being arguably the 2nd deepest draft class, next only to 2023 class, since the 2003 draft, means it's hardly a weak draft class. So let's just nip that garbage in the but now.

Now, secondly, not a chance DeBrincat value has gone down even a hint. If he was a UFA then sure, but he's NOT, he's an RFA. And sure he's coming off a career year, but again, who was he playing with that year? Patrick Kane, arguably the best American born player to lace em up. Binified super star. No way he's going to come in to Ottawa and match that output. Not going to happen. But the fact he came in and proved he can do it without a superstar partner like Kane, and still put near a point a game, at worst keeps him at the same value he was, or betters that value. Anyone with half a brain knows that's a fact!

Thirdly, I'm curious as to how any of these are bad trades? Do you think Ottawa can get more for DeBrincat? Because they definitely would NOT get less, as that would just be dumb of them. A former 40 goal scorer who is capable of what he's done in Ottawa on the 2nd line without a superstar partner is minimum getting what you see here. That's NOT up for debate!

25 Apr 2023 15:59:14
Wow, that a lot of word salad pal. There's no question anymore of who has half the brain any more.

I would love to know how you Value players.

DeBrincat - 25 yrs old, 5' 7" tall, 165 lbs.

Where do owners make the bulk of their money? I think we can all agree, during a playoff run. I'm sure we can all agree as well that playoff hockey is a totally diffrent animal.

DeBrincat is a good player, but is way to small for playoff hockey.

So lets ask that question again, how do you value players?

No one said he's a bad player, it's just that those trades are horrible for any team trying to pursue the Stanley cup.

25 Apr 2023 19:21:09
ya but he would help any team get to the playoffs you don't make money from the playoffs if you don't make them.

25 Apr 2023 21:00:04
Your right for sure. it's just the trades and the logic behind them are so out to lunch. any GM would never do this. even Jim Benning wouldn't do this.

25 Apr 2023 21:07:41
1 more thing, DeBrincats qualifying offer is is 9 MILLION PER YEAR. who would want that. I can see why Ottawa wouldn't want him lol.


? Homer Trades!

P. s. don't try and defend thus proposal. it's just bad.

25 Apr 2023 21:38:14
Not good enough for playoff hockey? Lmfao there's litteraly at least 1 playoff run in his history with the Blackhawks that proves you wrong dude. He had played 9 playoff games already and scored 6 points which ain't that bad at all. And that was litteraly the worst year of his personal career and if I'm not mistaken, he was playing hurt in that playoff run too.

Furthermore, Martin St. Louis is one of the best playoff performers in history and was a comparable size and points output to DeBrincat as well.

This trades are anything but out to lunch. I'd say I'd love to hear what you think his value is in a trade but I'd sooner as a monkey for its opinion as it would likely be a lot less biased lol

Where did you get that number for the Qualifying offer? Lmfao his cap hit was 6.75 or somewhere around that which is where the Qualifying offer would be sitting around, NOT 9 million lol. Though if it were that would be better as I'd just say let another team offer sheet him in that case and collect the 4 1sts in compensation lol.

Fact is, if a team wants high quality, they need to offer high quality in return. And it don't get much higher quality than a proven 40 goal scorer who doesn't need a superstar crutch to lean on.

And while bigger guys might have a few advantages that smaller guys don't, the smaller guys also have their own list of advantages, like speed, agility, and longevity of career.

26 Apr 2023 00:58:17
Mybads takes are awful but Debrincat is not a soft player. He’d do well in playoffs he’s a very good player. A comparison would be a smaller Jake Guzentzel.

26 Apr 2023 01:35:19
Don't be salty bud. your post just shows you hockey knowledge is more of a day dream than reality.

You made this post, now we all get to comment. and laugh a little.

One playoff run isn't much of a playoff history lol.

As for making any trades. I don't think I would trade him, being a down year.

Not many teams would be able to accommodate his contract.

Little guys do have speed and agility, but one good hit smaller guys will take a second thought at going into the greasy areas!

26 Apr 2023 22:56:24
Bumblebeetuna- I guess you never heard of Brendan Gallagher and Brad Marchand? Guess who hits more then both? Alex Debrincat. Wanna know who else he hits more then? Mathew Tkachuk. Not defending this guy but just saying Debrincat is an absolute warriors not to the extent of Gallagher but a similar mortar to Marchand without the Pestiness.

26 Apr 2023 23:39:57
Vbbbvvbb

He is a great player, as are Marchand and Gallagher. but these 2 guys you mentioned and 5'9" (2" talked. not a huge deal) but also hover around the 180 lbs.

DeBrincat is 165 in his bio.

I'm not hating on DeBrincat at all. he has done remarkably well for his stature!

Just think those trade are bad, that's all.

27 Apr 2023 03:12:40
Qualifying offer comes from salary not cap hit. Don’t know the exact number but I’m pretty sure it is around 9M. Also heck no from Colorado and the Kings.

27 Apr 2023 13:17:55
Further to what the Bee said, Gallagher's Dad is a strength and conditioning coach, and told his son he is too small to play in the NHL. Gallagher has always worked hard to add muscle weight.

Marchand is a lot of things, but like Gallagher, he put on a lot of muscle weight, and it has served his exceptionally well. Being physically strong translates to everything, especially attitude. I like Debrincat a lot, but with 15 pounds more muscle on him, he'd be scary good.

Also, EBS is right about how Qualifying Offers are determined.

27 Apr 2023 19:12:31
A mid to late 1st round pick, plus conditional picks if the player extends would be my guess.

01 May 2023 00:59:13
Ebsolutely, no it doesn't. Qualifying offer comes from the average annual cap hit value, NOT actual last year salary as you say. Always has.

Facelift39, not a chance dude. That's nowhere close to DeBrincat value. He was aquired for a lot more than that last year when it was very clear to the whole world and every expert that Sens got him for a steal of a deal. It was the talk of the league. After proving he can still go without Kane feeding him, his value is up from that now. And it sure as hell ain't gone down. No chance. That value you gave might get a sign a trade for Formenton and Branstrom or Joseph with him. But it ain't getting DeBrincat.

01 May 2023 01:05:42
Bumblebee, you're embarrassing yourself with these piss poor evaluations of DeBrincats value dude. He's a Top 6 player on all teams and a Top 3 on some. The value you keep implying is that of a bottom 6 role player. You can't get players like DeBrincat for rubbishty prices like that. It will never work like that. Hell JGP was nowhere near what DeBrincat is when he was traded for a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd. Do the math bro. JGP was a high end 3rd line Center at best and got that value. DeBrincat, however, at best can be a mid level 1st line winger and at worst a low 2nd line winger. He will get a much bigger return than JGP did and you know I'm right.

01 May 2023 05:17:10
The sens paid for two years of a player and now they're trying to sell a year is a way of looking at his value
And ebs is right about the qualifying offers, debrincat cap hit was 6.4 on his last deal and his QO 9 mill agreed?

02 May 2023 04:00:41
@mybad2

Has anyone agreed with you yet.?

??????????????????.

05 Apr 2023 23:05:02
Here's a thought if Ottawa can't get DeBrincat Signed long term.

Ott : DeBrincat, Chabot, and Thompson/ Docker

Buf : Dahlin, Savoie, and BUF 2023 1st

Again this only if DeBrincat won't sign in Ottawa. Otherwise, sign him and forget this one.

Buffalo gets a 40 goal scorer who could help them to entice Kane to come home and play with a former team mate and still gets a quality Top 2 capable DMan in Chabot to replace Dahlin. Having Power already doesn't hurt this either.

Ottawa gets a slight upgrade on Chabot who is less injury proned and at the same time recovers the pick the lost in original DeBrincat trade no harm no foul plus gets a mid first in a strong draft to replace Docker or Thompson and the other 2 picks originally given up in the original DeBrincat trade.

If DeBrincat does sign however here's another one to look at

Ott : OTT 2024 1ST, Sokolov, and Chabot

Buf : Buf 2023 2nd, and Dahlin.

06 Apr 2023 02:25:54
LMAO Dahlin wont be moved. When it’s all said and done I believe in 20 years time Dahlin will be known as the better player then Makar. He is Nick Lindstrom with better offence. He was in the Norris race prior to injury ( it’s speculated he’s playing injured)

06 Apr 2023 11:36:21
Trading Dahlin would be a mistake of epic proportion. He is on the brink of taking a spot in the top 3 defenseman in the NHL, and has as much or more talent than Makar or Fox. I am sure that the Sabres GM would give a big NO to this proposal, as soon as he picked himself up off the floor. he fell off his chair laughing upon hearing this proposal.

06 Apr 2023 18:55:40
I wanted to do this trade years ago as I don’t like Chabot and saw huge potential in Dahlin (his value was lower when people thought he may only be average) . Unfortunately now you don’t trade top Dmen for any offer.

I still think Ottawa should trade Chabot as I think his value is higher than his ability- maybe for a #1 goalie or just restocking the draft pool.

07 Apr 2023 17:41:03
HockeyDad Ottawa don't need another Goalie. Especially not one that would cost them something like Chabot. No thank you lol.

VbbVbb they were litteraly just talking about moving Dahlin last year when all that Eichel crap was happening. Sure those talks went quite but if Dahlin wants out they will likely accommodate his wishes. And this is about as good an offer as they would get for him as far as I'm concerned, I really don't see any team giving up much more for him as good as he is. Chabot has proven he's not a far cry in skill or value from Dahlin and DeBrincat is a proven 40 goal scorer who has also proven he can play without a superstar feeding him. Plus Kane already on record saying he'd love to play with DeBrincat again so this would be the perfect way to entice him to come home to Buffalo.

08 Apr 2023 16:27:17
If I’m the leafs I’d offer Mathews++ in a heartbeat they were never talking about moving him that’s ridiculous don’t believe everything you read on instagram.

27 Feb 2023 16:17:47
Mtl-dvorak

Buff- 2nd pick 2024

Buffalo need that kind of shut down center behind thompson and cozens.

Mtl- edmundson 50% retain

Edm - puljuarvi- 1st pick 2023

Edmonton dump puljuarvi, edmundson at 1,75 M this year and next edm gain cap flexibility, an get a physical lhd with good playoff exp

Mtl- allen 4th pick 2023

Pits- desmith-2nd pick 2024


Penguins need a reliable backup with jarry injury history

Offseason

Mtl send gallagher 25% retain to the hawk and give them edm 1st in 2023- 2nd pick 2024- gurianov and strubble right

Habs still have 2 first rounders in 2023 and gain a lot of cap flexibility with dvorak, allen and gally gone.

They sign toews 2year 7M
Korpisalo 2year 6M

27 Feb 2023 18:18:10
MTL respectfully declines each and every one of these.

27 Feb 2023 18:40:52
Good trades. Not sure if Montreal values a 2nd more then what Dvorak brings as a filler to take pressure off the younger guys tho.

26 Feb 2023 15:10:28
Flames start their re-tooling:

Cgy: Backlund

Car: 2023 1st

Then,

Cgy: Tanev

Buf: 2023 1st

Car gets quality 2-3 C. Pit, Col would bid as well.

Buf gets quality shutdown D, good example for their young d-men going in to the postseason.
Tor, Wpg would be interested too.

Tough to deny Flames' problems when exhibit A is on national tv. Never seen them so disengaged, and goalie issues for sure.
Even IF they somehow managed to make the playoffs, they are not contending with this lineup. Might as well get younger.

@Coulson
Again, I never said Leaf's prospects were crap.
There are a, b, and c prospects. To entice trade partners and outbid others, you quite often have to include a prospects to acquire a sought after player.

26 Feb 2023 15:34:09
Can see the Carolina Trade, but Tanev won't get Calgary a 1st Round Pick 2023 and being a lottery pick probably, no way Buffalo would do that, a 2nd Rounder yes imo.

26 Feb 2023 16:20:12
Backlund and Tanev could get slightly more imo, especially Tanev.

26 Feb 2023 17:05:42
Gutsy call Burner - knowing when to throw in the towel and keep your powder dry for another day is what shrewd managers do.

PINBALL: I complete agree with your call on the second for Taney?.

26 Feb 2023 20:59:10
Difficult to know exactly what the Flames’ problem is, unless it’s just having to start a lot games down 2-0. Markstrom is so inconsistent, he is starting to look like Andre Red Light Racicot.
Even after Lucic planted Macdermid (which I thought might be a turning point for their season), they scored on a power play, but then promptly went back to sleep, aside from a few after-the-whistle pillow fights. No focus, no purpose, especially on offence.

What do you guys think? Is it the goalies? Is it Sutter? Both?

Anyway, I think Backlund and Taney would draw significant interest. There are a number of contenders who have yet to make a move.

26 Feb 2023 23:45:49
NHL players are also high value assets. But they’re also people…and not everyone works well together.

It’s hard to describe when you have a tight team, be it be it an office team or a hockey team, but you know it when you see it. The opposite is also true.

Maybe it’s the wrong mix, maybe it just needs time to settle in. It’s hard to get the offense going when they’re worried about getting a save too.

Maybe the Coach has lost the room?

I imagine the they’ll figure it out in the off-season. Tre did a great job recovering assets this year, and maybe they just need extra time to settle in.

Whatever it is, time always tells the truth, and I suspect next year will be more productive in CGY.

27 Feb 2023 02:03:14
I agree that A prospects have to be included to get a sought after player, just not a forward who has topped out at 34 points in first 6 seasons (Crouse) or a 3rd pairing dman (Schenn) . And I wouldnt send 3 B prospects for Crouse either. Most I would send is the 2023 3rd rounder and Niemela. If that doesn't get him I think the Leafs should move on.

But thank you for the polite convo. Doesn't happen much on this site.

27 Feb 2023 13:27:35
Lots of 1st round picks and good prospects changing hands.

It's probably a reality check for some that the deadline is THE most expensive time to add. Look at all the picks that Jeannot got for NSH.

On the other side of the coin, if Kane only picks NYR as an acceptable team to waive to, he might only bring a 2nd with a prospect.

CGY would be wise to do either of these trades, and I could see COL adding Backlund as their #2 center.

22 Feb 2023 12:59:23
This is an offseason trade proposal, likely before or during the draft.

Vancouver : Thatcher Demko

Buffalo : 2023 2nd, Jiri Kulich

Demko is 27, has 3 more years at 5M AAV after this one and doesn't fit Vancouver's rebuilding timeline. He's had a down year (like 80% of the Canucks team) but he's still a solid goalie. They would get one of Buffalo's three 2nd round picks and a decent prospect in Kulich to bolster their prospect pool

Assuming Anderson doesn't sign a contract into his 50s, Buffalo needs a steady presence in the net for them to be a real playoff contender. Buffalo has heaps of cap space for the next few years, why not have him play the big games and give more sheltered starts to one of Lukkonen or Levi while they develop.

22 Feb 2023 13:34:11
Not even close to enough for Demko.

22 Feb 2023 13:52:43
I had a hard time gauging Demko's value, but I think you may be right. Goalie value is sometimes hard to predict, since generally, their value is lower than players of the same talent at other positions. I could see a first being added instead of the 2nd or another prospect being added to the mix

22 Feb 2023 14:42:24
MATADOR: I agree with you about determining goalie values. With only one starter per team, there always seems to be lots around, so there's usually a value to be had beyond the big names.

There are some teams, such as LA & FLA, who would appear to have a bigger need for decent goaltending. FLA is tied to Bob's awful contract for 3 years after this one, so I'd say LA is the most likely to have the prospects and picks to be able to find the right fit for VCR, in my humble opinion.

22 Feb 2023 15:43:56
If Vancouver wants a fast rebuild, they'll probably have to trade him this offseason. No need to keep a capable goalie that could potentially make them a more middling team instead of a bottom dweller. If I'm VAN's gm and Buffalo really wants Demko, I'd ask for something along the lines of Ostlund, and two of the three 2nds that Buffalo has. If the trade were to be made before the deadline, I'd ask Buffalo to chip in Subban so that I at least have somewhat of a goalie tandem.

22 Feb 2023 20:40:43
As a Canucks fan, I would be happy with that. Kulich is going to be a good player and a 2nd should be able to get the Canucks a defenseman into the pool.

22 Feb 2023 20:57:22
Kulich is the last prospect not in the NHL buffalo moves ( Well him or Levi ) he looks like he’s going to be a star.

Mathew Savoie, Comrie and 2nd for Demko.

22 Feb 2023 21:22:00
Buffalo looks like they could be patient on the goalie front. Colorado just got Georgiev for a 3rd so I don’t see Buffalo paying a high price for Demko.

22 Feb 2023 22:11:13
@vbbbvvbb

You really place Kulich in front of Savoie in Buffalo's prospect pool? That's something

21 Feb 2023 17:37:33
Canucks trade JT Miller and Luke Schenn to Buffalo for Tyson Jost, Peyton Krebs, 2-2nds(Flyers and Vegas)

Buffalo gets a quality top 6 forward with some snarl, that is signed to a long-term deal, plus a quality depth defender, who will help with the playoff push.
Canucks get 2 young nhl calibre 3rd line players, and a couple valuable 2nd round picks, to help build a prospect pool.

21 Feb 2023 21:11:13
Vancouver says no, they'd want a tip line player coming their way.

22 Feb 2023 12:46:31
Switch those 2nds for a first and I think Vancouver considers the trade. Miller is 29, produces at a PPG, so his value is high, even with his extension.

22 Feb 2023 14:46:35
I see Schenn going to a contender. BUF is close, but not quite there yet.

 
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