Florida Panthers Rumours

06 Sep 2025 00:55:36
If mctavish is a no go , habs should inquire about Anton Lundell…. Imo Lundell is a perfect fit for 2 c , he plays a 200 foot game and put up 45 points centering a 3rd line , so that number should go up playing on the 2nd line with demidov and laine
MTL sends hage and a 2nd round mtl
To FLA for lundell

Habs trades with rangers for Lafrenière
MTL sends Matheson and 2027 1st round
To nyr for Lafrenière

Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov lundell Laine
Lafrenière Newhook Bolduc
Anderson Evans Gallagher

MTL trades with devils
Habs send : Kirby Dach , 2nd round (Columbus) , 3rd round , Sean Farrell
To devils for : nemec

Guhle Dobson
Hutson nemec
Xehjaj carrier
Struble reinbacher

06 Sep 2025 15:37:32
- why would the champs trade a key piece for futures when they’re clearly a candidate for a Cup this year?

- Habs are on record that Hage won’t be traded. You’re a Hab fan and you know this.

07 Sep 2025 02:10:26
Because Florida is 4.5 million over the cap and by the new playoff cap rule they won’t be able to activate tkatchuk without a trade . I know habs don’t want to trade hage .. but for a 23 yr old cost control 5yrs 5million legit 2 c , I think they should do it ! I personally value more hage than a 2026 15-25 1st round pick but I think Florida does too

09 Sep 2025 15:02:21
From how I read it the lineup just has to be cap complient. I do think Florida is going to have to get creative and may need to move some guys out; but that's why they pay someone the big bucks to do so.

As for the trade Lindell isn't going anywhere. Florida looking to 3peat this year and Lindell is a big part in rhat potentially happening.

Habs should just ride it out with their roster. Goaltending is still meh in the grand scheme. There's hope for Dobes to have continued success and Monty to take another step. Goalies are so hot and cold tho so we shall see. But Dach or Bolduc could take that 2C spot and run with it out of camp and into the season. Demidov could get some looks at 2C as well. No need to make a trade involving any 2026 1st until the deadline where they can see where they are at in the standings.

Last year's playoff appearance was ahead of schedule for the Habs. And they shouldn't look to get of course because of it. Hughes has the chance to make them great again if he builds the roster properly and players develop as they should.

10 Sep 2025 03:00:58
I tend to agree with MG. Why not see what you’ve got and accumulate more cap space for a deadline deal, if needed and warranted? There may be a hot deal to swoop in on, especially for teams that took care of their cap situation early?

11 Sep 2025 15:05:26
Im with MG69 on this. Everyone had an extra year of experience, hopefully everyone is healthy( im thinking of Dach most of all)
Let em play! Interested to see how Bolduc and Dobson fit in, and who will replace Savard, Armia and Dvorak as penalty killers..

Excited for this season!!!!

28 Jun 2025 00:09:35
Montréal has to call Florida and acquire Lundell!! Adding him would catapult habs into contention for years to come! That’s exactly what Hugo said they’d do!
MTL offers : matheson 50% retained, Logan Mailloux, 2nd round and 3rd
To panthers for : Lundell
Or : matheson 50% retained or Mailloux and top 5 protected 2026 1st round
For lundell
Habs would then trade price to sharks
This leaves habs with plenty of money to resign Hutson and demidov to long term extensions
2026 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov lundell Laine
Newhook dach Gallagher
Anderson evans Florian or ufa corey Perry
Dcore of
Hutson reinbacher
Guhle Dobson
Xehjaj carrier

28 Jun 2025 03:53:42
I don’t see FLA giving up a piece of their present two-time Cup winning team for Matheson + futures.

When you’re at the top you’re not thinking about building, you’re thinking about staying where you’re at.

FLA will go hard at repeating and they have an excellent shot at achieving something special IMHO.

26 Jun 2025 00:30:02
Tampa:Gabriel Szturc,3rd
Calgary:Coleman

Chicago:3rd
Calgary:Backland

Dallas:Robertson,bourque
Calgary:Andersson -50%rtn,Zary,Mews,1rd via Florida,2nd

24 Jun 2025 15:39:15
Toronto to get the ball rolling.

TOR: Jason Robertson
FLA: Brad Marchand
VGK - Reilly Smith
DET: Patrick Kane
BUF: Bowen Byram


Robertson - Matthews - Knives
Kane - Marchand - Nylander
Domi - Laughton - Smith
Tanev - McMann - Pacioretty

Rielly - Byram
Benoit - Tanev
McCabe - Myers

24 Jun 2025 18:51:49
I think you need to get out of the sub.

25 Jun 2025 17:51:57
?

What are the trade, signing, or cap details? Or are you just amusing yourself by aimlessly writing random names on the page?

21 Jun 2025 19:55:43
Pens fan…
Thoughts on this trade idea…


Pittsburgh Trades
Bryan Rust to Florida

Ottawa Trades
Dylan Cozens to Pittsburgh

Florida Trades
Matthew Tkachuk to Ottawa

Florida gets a great player and cap space to help keep the window open

Penguins get your Center locked in for a number of years

Ottawa get’s to unite the brothers

Deal works for everyone….

21 Jun 2025 20:59:58
Going to need to send another more to Florida.

21 Jun 2025 23:37:12
Thinking your right…how about this?

Trade # 5
Pittsburgh Trades
Bryan Rust to Florida
2nd Round 59th Pick 2025 to Florida


Ottawa Trades
Dylan Cozens to Pittsburgh
1st Round 21st Pick 2025 to Florida

Florida Trades
Matthew Tkachuk to Ottawa.

22 Jun 2025 17:23:22
Why does OTT or FLA want to do this?

FLA is chasing another Cup, and the Cozens trade was just last year, and he’s performed really well for them.

15 Jun 2025 03:14:34
I’ve been paying close attention to Anton Lundell, and I believe he would be the ideal trade candidate for habs! He’s only making 5mil per for next 4 years!. Florida could then resign Bennett ,ekblad and Marchand,. Habs would have a responsible 23 yr old 2way 2nd line center
Habs send (16 or 17 overall ),( Owen beck or Oliver Kapanen )
To Florida for Lundell
Habs also trade with rangers
MTL sends : (16 or 17 overall) engstrom and struble ( but might have to be matheson)
To nyr for Alexis Lafrenière

15 Jun 2025 19:21:33
Doubt FLA moves Lundell. They're very likely to lose Bennett this offseason so they need him as a 2C. If they were to move him, my guess would be that they move him for a better C

15 Jun 2025 19:22:43
I'm saying Bennett likely won't re-sign because he's probably the most attractive center option in free agency, so I'm guessing a lot of teams are willing to put money on the table, which Florida has a limited capacity to do

18 Jun 2025 15:17:37
I bet Bennett stays. They have a chance to go for three and that opportunity doesn't come around often. I won't be shocked at all if some team friendly deals are made to keep them together.

23 May 2025 23:20:11
My very Flames-favoured offseason (feel free to cook me)
Draft Weekend:
To CGY: 2nd overall
To SJ: Connor Zary, Rasmus Andersson, Sam Honzek/Aydar Suniev, Henry Mews

To CGY: 13th overall, 75th overall
To DET: Blake Coleman (50% retained for 2 seasons), FLA 1st (29-32), Daniil Miromanov

Calgary Drafts:
2 - Micheal Misa/Matthew Schaefer
13 - Brady Martin/Jake Obrien
18 - Braeden Cootes/Roger McQueen
54 - Eric Nilson/Cole McKinney/Will Horcoff
75 & 80 - Theo Stockselius/Philip Veilleux/Filip Ekberg/Peyton Kettles/Haoxi Wang

July 1st:
To CGY: Marco Rossi
To MIN: Nazem Kadri
(This deal doesn't NEED to happen if Calgary gets misa + Martin but that's unlikely to happen)
CGY signs Rossi to 7x7

Sign Vlad Gavrikov 7m x 3 years to play with Parekh (or with Weegar if Bahl is better with Parekh)

Resign Vladar or go sign Jake Allen if you don't trust Devin Cooley.

Extend Bahl (RFA) to 5m x 7-8 years
Extend Wolf (RFA) to 8-9m x 8 years
Sign Frost to 2-3 years at most. $ doesn't matter for that contract (call it between 3.5-5m).

Roll into opening night with:

Huberdeau-Rossi-Coronato
Sharangovich-Frost-Pospisil
Stromgren-Backlund-Farabee
Lomberg-Kirkland-Klapka

Gavrikov-Weegar
Bahl-Parekh
Kuznetsov-Pachal
Bean

Wolf
Vladar

The hope is this roster is dog water and lands us Mckenna, Stennberg, or Rooboreck.

Enter 2026 with

Mckenna-Rossi-Coronato
Sharangovich-Misa-Gridin
Huberdeau-Frost-Farabee
Stromgren-Pospisil-Klapka

24 May 2025 19:54:08
That is very busy. If they could pull that all off they would be set for future.

26 May 2025 19:23:14
Great thoughts. I feel you are selling low on Anderson. Anderson (with 50% retained and then an extension with the new team), Honzek and Mews should get you the 2025 second.

Instead of the Detroit trade I would take the same Calgary players and make the trade with Minnesota for Rossi.

This should put us near a McKenna draft position since Wolf is going to have an off year.

04 Mar 2025 02:01:04
Florida Panthers will look for a way to use their cap space with Matthew Tkachuk ruled out with a groin injury until at least the playoffs.

NY Islanders:
Brock Nelson

Florida Panthers:
2027 1st round pick
2025 conditional 4th round pick (becomes a 2025 2nd round pick if Florida wins the Stanley cup).

With Tkachuk on LTIR, Forida has the cap space to bring in Nelson without any salary retention. Although this means they potentally wont have any picks in the first 3 rounds for the next 2 years, the chance that this team can win back to back cups is worth the risk.

04 Mar 2025 03:01:30
Becomes a 2026 2nd round pick**.

05 Mar 2025 10:24:57
This seems like a realistic deadline haul for Nelson. ?.

02 Mar 2025 00:41:08
What's everyone's thoughts on the deal between the Blackhawks and the Panthers?

Chicago got Knight and a 2026 1st
Florida got Jones with $2.5mill retention.

02 Mar 2025 02:25:50
I think they have to a plan to trade mrazek or soderbloom. They can't retain on mrazek. So sell cheap on mrazek or high on soderbloom. Or just did it for the first and put knight on waivers to send him down to the minors which is probably most likely.

02 Mar 2025 12:47:30
I think it's a decent deal. This gives Florida security over ekblads UFA status. Losing knight could end up stinging in a couple years as Bob ages. But each team addresses a key issue for both now and next season.

04 Jan 2025 21:13:18
Moving some big pieces off the flames.

To TOR:
Kadri (2mill retained each year)
Klapka

To CGY:
Danford +
2026 1st OR 2025 2nd +2026 3rd
--------------------
To NYR:
Rasmus Andersson
2025 NJ 1st or 2025 FLA 1st(whichever is later)

To CGY:
Braiden Schneider + 2025 NYR 1st
2

05 Jan 2025 06:06:40
The first trade looks alright. Might be tough to trade Kadri knowing that he's got one foot out the door.

Last trade I doubt NYR would trade schneider. I think NYR is pretty high on him. But never know what Drury will do!

22 Nov 2024 00:34:34
Montreal trade with Carolina
Mtl sends: Mike Matheson and Kirby dach and Florida or Calgary 1st round
To Carolina fo r Martin Necas
That is if Necas doesn’t want to be I. Carolina for long term
If only Kent would of drafted mishkov instead of reinbacher 2026 roster would look like this
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Mishkov Necas Demidov
Laine hage Newhook
Anderson evans Gallagher
Defence
Hutson ekblad ( free agent)
Guhle Mailloux
Xhejaj struble

22 Nov 2024 05:23:17
With the season necas is having they'll not trade him. But if he does a not signing warning not a bad pitch but upped his trade value huge from a few months ago.

25 Aug 2024 02:49:09
Montreal trade option to contend…
Flames are clearly in a full rebuild , so I would target kadri
Mtl sends :
2025 first round ( Calgary or Florida) , 2025 2nd round ( habs got 3) , 2025 3rd round (habs also have 3) and Owen beck
To flames for :
Kadri ( 3 million retained, so would cost 4million per season for next 5 years until he’s 38yrs old)
Habs get a gritty skilled veteran cup winner center , perfect to center 2nd line for next 2-3yrs , then 3rd line for last 2yr
2026 lineup
1st line
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov Kadri laine
Roy Newhook dach
Gallagher evans Anderson
With hage, Florian xhejaj , kapanen and Mesar knocking on the door

25 Aug 2024 03:36:34
I'm pretty happy to see what we have now. Also remember Denidov will probably be here next year. I thimk Dach can be the 2nd line guy. Hopefully Beck can be the 3rd in a couple years. I think Kadri is a good player, I see why you'd like to add him, however I think he would be taking a spot of someone else who can do it.

25 Aug 2024 03:37:02
Sorry you had Demidov on. my old eyes are failing me haha.

25 Aug 2024 10:48:36
Kadri can help a team, but is the wrong age for a rebuilding team. I’d rather keep all that trade capital and grow the team internally.

25 Aug 2024 11:05:45
I dont think sending 3 picks plus a young centre for a 34 yr old fits the rebuild plan.

07 Aug 2024 17:40:44
I saw the deal ducks offered to habs at the draft :
Zegras and second round (35 overall)
For Mailloux and 21st overall
Kent should call verbeek and offer Mailloux and Florida 1st
For Zegras and 2025 second round
That would give mtl 3 second round picks to trade back in 1st round

07 Aug 2024 19:54:56
I seen that as well, I'm happy they didn't do it. I'd like to keep Mailoux. I doubt that Verbeek would accept Barron and the Florida pick and another peice. But I think Mailoux has a pretty high ceiling, wanna see how it turns out.

07 Aug 2024 21:12:54
I’m not a Zegras guy. Super talented, but not what you’d get to build a championship team in my humble opinion.

08 Aug 2024 01:12:31
That did not come from a reliable source.

08 Aug 2024 16:29:47
I like the talent Zegras has. but. u you do have to wonder why, on a young rebuilding team, Anaheim does not need / want him.

08 Aug 2024 21:16:05
Well they do want him. I feel like guys like Zegras and Guadreau aren’t really players teams need more or less complementary offensive players. They are unreal with space but they need they need to be on the rush to create space or on PP under pressure they pretty useless but a guy like McTavish/ Leo can compensate for that. I can see him having a 90 point season on a line with Cutter and Leo/ McTavish.

Zegras-Leo-Terry-McTavish-Cutter is a very good top 6 and then you got Becket Senneke. I like what they’re dining there aside from that pick this year.

31 Jul 2024 22:58:43
Edm: Ryan fla: 6th. Then Edmonton signs wheeler for a small savings. Id like to see perry- henrique- wheeler forth line. Perry and wheeler rw but think they could figure it out. That a cup 4th line. Florida gets more depth for cheap.

01 Aug 2024 15:06:51
- FLA is up against the cap with 766K left, and 1-2 more FWD to sign.

- Even if they could afford him, I don't think you'd get a 6th for Ryan, who is 37.

02 Aug 2024 01:52:23
Ok chickenfoot., Ryan still better than their options. Hes not a scorer, he'd be a pk guy and leader. Maybe a 7th or future considerations but I think he'd be a very good role guy for Florida. Tb has to have cheap contracts and he's still a good player for under 1m.

04 Aug 2024 21:11:02
Well put Shoots, but I think another move for space is coming in FLA to open some options, sooner or later?.

31 Jul 2024 02:57:37
If Minnesota disappoint and aren’t near playoffs habs should try and pry kaprizov from wild at the 2025 draft to play with demidov
Habs offer
Guhle, (Harris or Barron) , mesar, Calgary/Floridas 1st round , mtl 2026 1st round
Wild offer
Kaprizov ( mtl extends him 6yrs 10-11million per)
1st line
Demidov Suzuki kaprizov
2nd
Slavkosky dach caufield
3rd
Hage or beck Newhook Roy
4th
Gallagher or Anderson evans Florian xhejaj
Defence
Reinbacher Hutson
Mailloux Matheson
Xhejaj struble or engstrom
Goalie
Montembault
Fowler

31 Jul 2024 17:18:44
I can't see Minnesota giving away there Superstar. It would be nice to have him, sure .

31 Jul 2024 22:42:33
Kinda. that's better than pinball spare parts for a star.

30 Jul 2024 15:45:47
Habs- baron-mesar-florida 1st pick 2025

Wpg- mcgroaty


Mcgroaty could play in mtl top 9

Baron joining is bro, mesar And 1st Florida pick worth each a late first

30 Jul 2024 16:20:06
The first is nice, but the rest does nothing for Winnipeg. You'll need to pay Chevy's asking price or check again at the TDL.

31 Jul 2024 00:47:33
That is an overpay. One first round for three first rounders. I say again unproven me me.

31 Jul 2024 01:38:02
@memarcus

That's essentially 3 1st round picks for a guy who doesn't want to stay in the peg

I get, that chevy isn't giving him away, but this is a good package. I big young RHD, a young winger with potential, and a 1st.

31 Jul 2024 02:00:09
MEMARCUS: any word on what Chevy's price is? I haven't heard anything about it yet, and I'd heard that they're trying to work it out with the kid?

31 Jul 2024 03:34:14
Chickenfoot, there are no actual leaks from the Jets, but the insiders think he is asking for a young roster player or prospect that is NHL ready.

It makes sense as an ask, but that's about the only info out there.

31 Jul 2024 03:47:12
Hurdemz, just because a player
was drafted in the first round, doesn't mean they hold that value their entire career.

So, no that isn't close to 3 first round picks in value. The same reason Montreal fans want to get rid of them is the same reason other teams don't want them. They all realize the potential just really isn't there anymore.

Mesar, is okay, nothing impressive, maybe ends up as a small bottom six energy guy or something. Maybe worth a 3rd? But he fills no need for Winnipeg and is probably a couple years away. Almost no value to Winnipeg.

Barron, his new contract says it all. He's being paid for being exactly what he is, a low end 6/ 7 that couldn't consistently crack a horrible Montreal defense. Comparable players can be picked up off waivers or as an FA for even less money and Winnipeg doesn't need bottom pairing defensemen. He has zero value to Winnipeg.

31 Jul 2024 16:52:57
MEMARCUS: good info, and I think that price is fair if the kid comes as advertised. No matter what happens Chevy will do something smart because that’s what he does.

Good rebuttal email as well. You are consistently a good read on here. ?.

31 Jul 2024 17:19:24
McGroaty is likely a tough eval for anyone looking to acquire him. Do you take his demands for playing time as entitlement and unwillingness to work for it or do you look at it as he knows how good he is and is showing his confidence. It's a fine line.

Chevy will hold onto him until the deadline and will likely be in talks with his agent and him leading up to it to figure out if the Jets are a fit. And if not then he'll be used to go after a big fish, assuming the Jets are in a playoff spot or in the hint for one. And if not wait till the draft.

31 Jul 2024 17:24:40
I won't pretend to say I know much about the kid from the Jets. I do agree on most points with Memarcus. I'm just not sold on a kid that expects a roster spot, obviously I don't know the whole story. I'd have to fully understand what the situation is. Hard to tell if this would be an over or under payment.

31 Jul 2024 18:29:53
That's the whole thing with a McGroarty evaluation. None of us know and likely will never know what the actual situation is.

I can see why some teams may not be interested and why others would say "damn the torpedoes" let's go after him.

31 Jul 2024 22:45:59
Mcgroaty is a top 6 forward, not a star.

04 Jul 2024 18:11:15
EDM:

- 2025 2nd
- 2026 1st
- Kulak

MTL:

- Carey Price contract (2 years left @ 10.5M)


. EDM gets 2 years of major LTIR space to help with the last year of the James Neal buyout plus the first two years of the Campbell buyout. (3.016M this coming season, and 2.3M next season.)

. EDM sheds the final two years of Kulak to become cap compliant before the new season, with a chance to upgrade via trade with the extra cap space.)

. MTL absorbs the Kulak deal with an eye on flipping him for a pick or prospect before camp.

. MTL doesn't require the Price contract's LTIR space at this point in their rebuild, and turns it into assets for the future.

. Price has already said he's cool with MTL flipping his contract for assets if required.

. If EDM doesn't want to pay the price, a team like VGK, VCR or FLA will be tempted.

04 Jul 2024 22:35:57
Montreal would be the scummiest team to trade LTIR for assets. On top of the disservice it does to Price.

04 Jul 2024 23:37:56
CROZIER: not sure how closely you follow hockey, but MTL would hardly be the first team to trade an LTIR contract. A few off the top of my head would include Zetterberg, Pronger and Datsyuk.

Chris Pronger even made a joke about his HHOF induction saying that he might go in as a Coyote?

As for Price, he’s already said he’d be cool with it, which I already mentioned. Here’s his exact quote:

“Everybody here knows hockey is a business, and money management and cap space is part of that, ” Price said. “I’m going to be a Montreal Canadien for the rest of my life and I’m very proud of that. I’m willing to help this team in any aspect, whatever the team has to do. If they have to move money to make this team better, I’m here to help in any way I can. ”.

05 Jul 2024 12:17:16
This trade only saves the oilers the 2.75M of Kulaks contract. Being over the cap from LTIR isn’t a benefit to teams, it makes it so you don’t accumulate cap space throughout the season. Easy no from Oil.

05 Jul 2024 12:18:44
I like the idea of this Chickenfoot.

05 Jul 2024 12:59:48
EBS: trading a contract like Kulak would let EDM start the season compliant, and therefore max out the LTIR benefit in-season and acquire additional salary as they will likely want to do.

Here’s a link to the TAM-DET trade of Zetterberg’s LTIR cap hit that is helpful in understanding the very real cap benefits for EDM.

A 1st and 2nd is a steep price, but one a Cup contender like EDM would definitely consider very worthwhile, especially given the combined buyout cap hits of Neal & Cambell in this crucial upcoming season.

06 Jul 2024 21:53:09
This trade would take the Oil from say 88.75M down to 86M. And now have 10M on LTIR making it harder for them to accrue cap space and add at the deadline. They’d only lose 2.75M in salary counting towards the cap. They don’t gain 10M from Price. There is no chance they’d trade a 1st and 2nd to dump Kulak. Kulak isn’t a bad contract.

03 Jul 2024 23:59:16
Montreal trades with jets 2 scenarios
1:
Montreal sends
Harris, Barron, beck , Dvorak , Anderson
To Winnipeg for
Ehlers and McGroarty
2:
Mtl sends Harris or Barron, Anderson and Calgary/Florida 1st round (top 10 protected)
To Winnipeg for McGroarty

04 Jul 2024 03:09:50
You're not going to be able to dump Anderson and Dvorak without paying to do so and it won't be to Winnipeg.

Puck Pedia's dump calculator puts dumping Anderson at the 13 OA pick and Dvorak at 35 OA. So, keep adding you don't have enough to dump either.

04 Jul 2024 13:03:42
not sure i am sold on a guy who is already wanting out of a place he got drafted (Lindros relation? ) . plus the second trade is an overpay.

04 Jul 2024 16:41:05
The Jets have enough bottom pairing d-men and 4/ 5th line forwards of their own. The Jets would want less poor offered quantity of players and would want one top level player for Ehlers and McG.

04 Jul 2024 17:35:43
MTL declines as well.

06 Jul 2024 19:43:58
This trade in particular looks more like a MTL salary dump. With Dvorak and Anderson included.
Maybe do a Barron & Beck for McGoarty.
But I don’t See MTL doing any of this.
McGoarty’s style would look good in Habs top six tho.

11 Jun 2024 20:32:36
LA: Rights to Laurent Brossoit
WPG: Rights to Matt Roy

LA: Rights to Ilya Samsonov, Rights to Timothey Liljegren
TML: Rights to Matt Roy, 6th Round Pick 2024

LA: Rights to Anthony Stolarz
FLA: 6th Round Pick 2025

LA Goalie tandem: Stolarz + Brossoit
Or Stolarz + Samsonov

10 Apr 2024 13:18:01
Ottawa Trades
Chychrun
3rd Round Pick 2025 (Florida's Pick)

Toronto Trades
NRobertson
DeWar
Liljegren
1st Round Pick 2026 (Lottery Protected)


Leafs will be looking to upgrade Defence and adding Chychrun would fit into what they would be looking at.

Unless Chychrun is committed long term on a new contract it would be better to get assets back before he walks for nothing after next season, NRobertson would be either on the second or third line in Ottawa, Liljegren though not Chychrun would play in Ottawa full time, DeWar fills in the 4th line nicely and Sens also get a 1st Rounder out of this deal

Remember everyone Chychrun was traded for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders when Arizona traded him to Ottawa and had more contract as well, so my proposal imo is similar to that transaction.



Thoughts ?

10 Apr 2024 20:25:35
- explain it any way you like, and upvote yourself till the cows come home, but these one-sided trades you post incessantly are a waste of everyone’s time.

- OTT isn’t going to help your leafs out like this for that yard sale of a return. Their new owner would fire any GM that even suggested something like this.

11 Apr 2024 01:40:21
So chychrun for a bag of pucks turns ottawa's 3rd into a 1st? No thanks.

11 Apr 2024 14:13:34
Chickenfoot and Facelift39.
I guess none of those Leaf Players are NHLers in your world unless they play for another team got it.
What did Ottawa trade to get Chychrun from Arizona again with 3 years compared to an expiring contract next season?
If you don't know it was a 1st and two 2nd Rounders, so all of a sudden Chychrun is worth much much more?
Very odd way of thinking don't you think.

11 Apr 2024 22:03:07
Chychrun with one year left is much more valuable than the three players with zero years left.
Ottawa has their own RFA's to work on this summer.
What value does 4th liner dewar have to ottawa? (McEwen still under contract, kastelic still under contract, affordable RFA's kelly and katchouk)
What about bottom pair d liljegren? (Hamonic still under contract, zub under contract)
3rd liner NRobertson? (Matthieu joseph still under contract)
Maybe it's an odd way of thinking to you, but how about just keeping your RFA's and ottawa keeps their 3rd? This would make the trade chychrun to the leafs for a 1st. I'm fairly certain this offer won't work for you, because it doesn't heavily favor the leafs.

12 Apr 2024 03:59:00
Facelift39 N
Robertson gives Ottawa another young winger that has proven he can score playing limited minutes, that's why The Sens would want him.
DeWar is better than any of the 4th line forwards you mentioned, isn't Ottawa trying to get better?
Hamonic is in the same class as Liljegren? Ya sure he is in your world.
All the players in my proposal are RFAs not UFAs so they aren't going anywhere.
Again facts are facts Chychrun with 2 extra years on his contract went for a 1st and two 2nd Rounders.
For some reason you believe Chychrun is worth more than his going rate.
So if The Leafs had two 2nd Rounders and Ottawa kept their 3rd Rounder and NRobertson, Liljegren and DeWar were not part of the deal then it's fair?

13 Apr 2024 13:37:45
YES pinball, I would 100% click believable on chychrun to toronto for two 2nd's. I am certainly not trying to convince you or anybody that hamonic is equivalent to liljegren or that Parker kelly is equivalent to NRobertson, my point is that hamonic is under contract and likewise with zub. is ottawa really going to improve by having zub and liljegren in their top 4 on the right side and hamonic on the bottom pair? At forward, stutzle, Tkachuk, giroux, batherson, pinto, norris. would NRobertson be in their top 6? I'm going to go ahead and say no.
Joseph, kastelic, Greig, McEwen under contract for next year in the bottom 6 - I'm not suggesting these players are superior to dewar, I'm sure he's amazing on the leafs 4th line. I'm simply pointing out that they are under contract for next season. So unless ottawa can pull off a trade similar to some of the proposals you make on here, then these players will be taking spots.
To suggest ottawa would give up assets for fringe RFA's is absurd. Why not make a proposal where each of these players is involved in a sign-and-trade? I'm sure teams would be lining up around block. Ridiculous.

18 Apr 2024 22:57:03
I'd do this - puts Toronto in a salary cap bind after next season when Chychrun will want 8 mil per season.

19 Apr 2024 14:15:52
Pinball
Seriously the ratio of likes to dislikes on all of your posts through all these years isn't enough evidence to suggest you know nothing?

When are you going to pay attention to the 31 other teams in this league and what their position is on their players? You come at every trade with the same statement "the Leafs will be looking to do ___".

Assuming Ottawa is even shopping Chychrun, why would they settle for the worst return Toronto can offer just to help a division rival?

And lottery protected 1st round pick is absolutely hilarious, assuming the Leafs might potentially finish bottom 5 with the team they already have plus adding Chychrun?

19 Apr 2024 14:38:11
Adding Chychruns $4.6m would put the Leafs salary at $72.89m for players already signed til next season, out of a possible $87.7m.

You've offered 3 RFAs so there's no salary being sent back to Ottawa, and that's also 2 extra roster spots to fill out on the team.

Which means the Leafs would have $14.81 million left to complete their 22 man roster. They still don't have a starting goalie signed, they'd still need 1 more NHL defenseman, and they'd still need 5 more NHL forwards (10 forwards, 4 defenseman and 1 goalie are already signed for next season. )

$14.81m to sign 7 players, unless the Leafs want to ice AHLers to fill in those gaps which I'm sure you can agree would make them worse than they currently are.

Marner needs and extension, Tavares needs an extension, Knies needs an extension, Woll needs an extension. Oh, and Chychrun will need an extension after next season.

Lastly with this trade the Leafs would have no 1st round picks in the next 2 years which is brutal since they already have no 2nd round picks in the next 2 years. No cap space to extend and keep all the talent already there, and not enough quality prospects to fill in the rest of the gaps.