New Jersey Devils Rumours

19 Sep 2025 03:22:59
If habs believe that dach will finally become the player they hoped and that laine will be his best version yet ( if so .. need to resign asap at a reasonable cap) I have a proposal that might be interesting for both parties

MTL sends : Matheson Mesar and a 3rd round pick
To devils for : dougie Hamilton
Guhle Dobson
Hutson Hamilton
Xehjaj carrier
Struble reinbacher
Engstrom

19 Sep 2025 13:21:22
Mesar isn't moving the needle on a trade anymore. His development has become stagnant. And Hamilton is a big part of that Devils dcore so I don't see them moving him.

Habs are fine how they are. They keep building smartly they will be a force in 3 years or so. They do need Slaf to take a big, big step this year. Even if his production stays the same they need him to a force when he's battling for the puck, throwing hits, blocking shots, and taking lanes away with his size.

19 Sep 2025 17:02:10
This doesn’t seem like a necessary move at all.

There is such a thing as too many moves, and there is value in taking the time to see what you have, what needs may present themselves, and what remedies might be available in the trade market.

I’m all for starting the season and making wise use of available cap space based on need and opportunity.

20 Sep 2025 11:08:13
not a fan of Hamilton . pass and continue to develop within.

20 Sep 2025 14:55:06
Last thing Montreal needs is an offensive defenseman.

23 Sep 2025 14:02:59
Hamilton and Dobson provide the same play style offensively (a great shot from point and ability to find the net which is a massive compliment to Lane Hutson who is a unreal QB but has a weak shot) but Dobson imo is significantly better defensively and is less injury prone. Hamilton is the last player the Habs need.

17 Sep 2025 23:08:24
CHI - Bedard, Korchinski

NJD - Hughes, Hughes

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CHI - Vlasic, Levshunov, 1st

VAN- Hughes.

06 Sep 2025 00:55:36
If mctavish is a no go , habs should inquire about Anton Lundell…. Imo Lundell is a perfect fit for 2 c , he plays a 200 foot game and put up 45 points centering a 3rd line , so that number should go up playing on the 2nd line with demidov and laine
MTL sends hage and a 2nd round mtl
To FLA for lundell

Habs trades with rangers for Lafrenière
MTL sends Matheson and 2027 1st round
To nyr for Lafrenière

Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov lundell Laine
Lafrenière Newhook Bolduc
Anderson Evans Gallagher

MTL trades with devils
Habs send : Kirby Dach , 2nd round (Columbus) , 3rd round , Sean Farrell
To devils for : nemec

Guhle Dobson
Hutson nemec
Xehjaj carrier
Struble reinbacher

06 Sep 2025 15:37:32
- why would the champs trade a key piece for futures when they’re clearly a candidate for a Cup this year?

- Habs are on record that Hage won’t be traded. You’re a Hab fan and you know this.

07 Sep 2025 02:10:26
Because Florida is 4.5 million over the cap and by the new playoff cap rule they won’t be able to activate tkatchuk without a trade . I know habs don’t want to trade hage .. but for a 23 yr old cost control 5yrs 5million legit 2 c , I think they should do it ! I personally value more hage than a 2026 15-25 1st round pick but I think Florida does too

09 Sep 2025 15:02:21
From how I read it the lineup just has to be cap complient. I do think Florida is going to have to get creative and may need to move some guys out; but that's why they pay someone the big bucks to do so.

As for the trade Lindell isn't going anywhere. Florida looking to 3peat this year and Lindell is a big part in rhat potentially happening.

Habs should just ride it out with their roster. Goaltending is still meh in the grand scheme. There's hope for Dobes to have continued success and Monty to take another step. Goalies are so hot and cold tho so we shall see. But Dach or Bolduc could take that 2C spot and run with it out of camp and into the season. Demidov could get some looks at 2C as well. No need to make a trade involving any 2026 1st until the deadline where they can see where they are at in the standings.

Last year's playoff appearance was ahead of schedule for the Habs. And they shouldn't look to get of course because of it. Hughes has the chance to make them great again if he builds the roster properly and players develop as they should.

10 Sep 2025 03:00:58
I tend to agree with MG. Why not see what you’ve got and accumulate more cap space for a deadline deal, if needed and warranted? There may be a hot deal to swoop in on, especially for teams that took care of their cap situation early?

11 Sep 2025 15:05:26
Im with MG69 on this. Everyone had an extra year of experience, hopefully everyone is healthy( im thinking of Dach most of all)
Let em play! Interested to see how Bolduc and Dobson fit in, and who will replace Savard, Armia and Dvorak as penalty killers..

Excited for this season!!!!

05 Sep 2025 23:04:28
Trades Montreal could make
1- habs trade with ducks
MTL sends 2026 1st round,both 2026 2nd round and Kirby Dach
To Anaheim for Mctavish ( signs for 7-8 yrs at 7.5 per)
2-habs trades with rangers
MTL sends : Mike matheson and 2027 1st round
To rangers for : Alexis Lafrenière
Trade 3-
Montreal sends , laine , 3rd round and Mesar
To new jersey for : nemec and Arseni gritchiuk
With prospects: reinbacher , hage , zharovsky, beck , engstrom

06 Sep 2025 03:11:27
Follow up .. in the pipeline I’m ready to trade draft picks to improve the team à la panthers style
Forwards lines
Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov mctavish Lafrenière
Roy or Gallagher Newhook Bolduc
Gallagher or Roy evans Anderson
Defence pairs
Guhle Dobson
Hutson nemec
Xehjaj carrier
Struble reinbacher

I could also see lines:
Demidov Suzuki Caufield
Slafkovsky mctavish Newhook
Roy Bolduc Lafrenière
Gallagher Evans Anderson

10 Aug 2025 06:41:51
These trade would probably never happen
1- mtl sends : Hutson, matheson, Newhook ,hage+ 2026 1st round
To New Jersey for : jack and Luke Hughes
Slafkovsky Hugues Caufield
Demidov Suzuki laine
Gallagher Dach Bolduc
Arber Xhekaj?! Evans Anderson

Guhle Dobson
L.hugues reinbacher
Struble carrier
Engstrom
Or
2- MTL sends Hutson
To devils for : hischer and nemec
Slafkovsky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov hischer laine
Dach Newhook Bolduc
Gallagher Evans Anderson

Guhle Dobson
Matheson reinbacher
Struble nemec
Engstrom carrier
Xhekaj

11 Aug 2025 16:17:52
Stupidest idea I've seen in my entire life TBO.

11 Aug 2025 17:37:48
I almost agree... however , no probably about it.. they would deffenitley never happen

13 Aug 2025 13:26:12
Why are yah even considering trading Hutson? I'll admit I was his biggest critic last year in regards to how he would actually perform being an undersized dman. Guy went out and dropped 60+ points as a rookie dman and was part of the reason the Habs managed to be in the playoffs. You don't trade away corner stone dmen when you have em.

Also I can't imagine why NJ would move Hischer or either Hughes brother. They are perfect age for being consistently and the playoffs and potentially coming out of the east if things fall the right way.

There's trades to be made if the Habs want to address the 2C spot. Rossi comes to mind, I'm sure a deal could be made grab McTavish, Bolduc already in the system could tske that spot and run with it out of camp.

13 Aug 2025 20:49:24
I agree with MG69 about there are trades to be made, but id stay as is atm . Im still on team Dach however, I give him this one last shot to prove he can do it.
Im quite happy with the current roster and want to just see these guys grow together.. not a contender yet, but really close, I think this is one more year of growth, then its go time..

14 Aug 2025 00:06:37
Wow…this is pretty out there.

08 Jun 2025 18:20:00
D. Mercer, T.Meir, J. Markstrom & 2025 1st for Q. Hughes & T. Demko.

Devils sign N. Ehlers.

Leafs sign Marner 13 X 8, trade to Carolina for Ty Smith & 5th round pick.

Leafs trade, buy-out or dump Kampf, Reeves, Jarnkrok, Robertson & Webber.

Leafs sign Tavares, Fabbro, Pacioretty & Mantha.

08 Jun 2025 19:40:14
why do leaf fans think that everyone is going to take their garbage contracts off of them. and why would you want basically want to ice the same team that hasn't won anything.

08 Jun 2025 22:07:25
Cap floor teams sometimes need & want overpaid players on short contracts. Webber & Robertson have trade value, Reeves, Kampf & Jarnkrok could move to cap-floor teams or be included in trades to offset salary differentials.

Wholesale changes don’t happen in a year. Leafs have talent, they need toughness & some chemistry. They took the champs to 7 games

IMO they win if their starting goalie wasn’t targeted & knocked out.

10 Jun 2025 00:43:59
No chance VAN does that trade, or Marner re-signs with the leafs.

As for the shoulda, woulda, coulda about the leafs advancing if they’re goalie didn’t get injured, or the satisfaction of having taken the champs to 7, (some) of you leaf fans have a unique outlook on hockey, and your team’s place in the league.

I’d be pissed if my team blew a rebuild after drafting a generational talent like Matthews, and managed only 2 series wins in 9 years. Most fanbases would have called for heads to roll 5 years ago.

10 Jun 2025 23:29:50
lol @chickenfoot you have no clue what you’re talking about Mathews is not a generational talent he isn’t even the best player on his team that would be Nylander . I guess I’ll give you some attention since you seem lonely.

11 Jun 2025 17:08:38
Lol Nylander is not the beat player on the Leafs. Does he have the potential to be, for sure. But as we seen in the Florida series he was quite content taking shifts off. Matthews picked up his defensive game at least and was battling an injury. Nylander clearly was not seeing as he hopped on a plane and was in a Swedish jersey the day after elimination. If Nylander can find another gear, another level I'd be happy to revist the conversation. But when his effort level was noticeably not there on numerous shifts, he'll in numerous games, because the bounces weren't going his way he can't be the best player on the team. The best players are still a factor in other facets of the game when their strengths aren't available.

11 Jun 2025 19:24:23
“Generational” is a term used by most with the drafting of Matthews, so it’s hardly an opinion unique to me?. (You’re a leaf fan and you don’t get it? )

MG is the most fair-minded leaf fan on this site, so his words on Nylander in relation to Matthews are good enough for me.

As for your “lonely” comment, that’s an oddly weird comment to make. You’ve done the projection thing before, so you definitely paint a picture. We’re all rooting for you to overcome this multi year funk VB. Better, happier, less angry days are ahead of you, so hang in there?.

11 Jun 2025 22:10:53
If the leafs won the cup hypothetically Stolarz or Nylander would have been the Conn Smyth winner and I don’t think that’s debatable (if the other teams top player didn’t win) . Defensive players don’t win the con Smyth. Atleast I don’t remember one that did.

12 Jun 2025 02:44:50
I mean. a goalie is literally the last line of defense.

Also the old saying has yet to be proven wrong. defense wins championships.

12 Jun 2025 10:33:10
VB:

- the leafs won one round. One. You’re getting VERY hypothetical trying to pick a Conn Smythe Trophy winner from the 2024-25 edition of your team.

- I’m not sure how much hockey you watch, but defensive players DO win the Conn Smythe Trophy. (That’s the trophy with the big Maple Leaf on it. )

- Since 2000, 6 defensemen and 5 goalies have won the Conn Smythe Trophy. 11/ 25 isn’t really an anomally.

12 Jun 2025 15:01:20
Usually the guy who wins conn Smyth is the guy who led teams in points.

12 Jun 2025 16:25:52
Sometimes. But as Chickenfoot pointed out 11/ 25 since 2000 have been a dman or a tendy. When Boston was winning you could have very easily made a case for Bergeron to win the Conn Smythe as well.

The point is Nylander isn't the Leafs best player. He has all the tools to be, but he takes too many shifts off and pretty much shuts down if the bounces aren't going his way. The best player on literally every team picks up their play in another area or in another facet of the game to still help the team.

All Leafs fans can hope for is this off-season we get a guy who will drag this team through the trenches when they need to be dragged. Maybe it comes internally and maybe it comes from a trade or FA. But we need someone who doesnt shy away from the guts of the game.

13 Jun 2025 00:31:30
I literally said goalie or leading offensive player. Obviously that goes for Dman aswell if a guy like Makar puts up 25+ points he’s going to win.

13 Jun 2025 12:53:02
2000- Scott Stevens won with 11 points, good for 4th on the team.

2002- Lindstrom won with 16 points, good for 5th on the team.

2007- S. Niedermeyer wins with 11 points, good for 8th on the team.

2014- Williams wins with 25 points, tied for 2nd on the team.

2015- Keith wins with 21 points, tied for 2nd on the team.

2016- Crosby wins with 19 points in 24 games, good for 2nd on the team.

2017- Crosby wins with 27 points, good for 2nd on the team.

2018- Ovie wins with 27 points, good for 2nd on the team.

2020- Hedman wins with 22 points, good for 3rd on the team behind Kuch and point who were well over a point per game.

2023- Marchessault wins with 25 points, good for 2nd on the team.

Any years I left out you were in fact right about it being the top scorer or a goalie. Even though you only mentioned the goalie winning once and that was with your hypothetical of Stolarz winning. After that you don't mention goalies at all. End of the day it all comes back to Nylander isn't the best player on the Leafs and won't be until he gets better in other areas when the bounces aren't going his way.

26 May 2025 15:01:16
New Jersey gets:
Matheson 50% retained (2.4375 mil)
Mallioux
Laine 50% retained (4.35 mil)
2025 2nd

Montreal Gets:
Nemec
mercer (4 mil)

Although montreal has Rienbacher I could see line up being

Hutson-Nemec
Guhle-reinbacher.

26 May 2025 15:30:40
C'mon be serious. Why on earth would Jersey do that?

26 May 2025 16:56:45
I see why Jersey doesn't do this, also, I don't want Habs to do this either.

27 May 2025 01:54:10
Honestly I think habs could get nemec for matheson 50% retained + 17th overall
New Jersey has a lot of right handed defenders
Hamilton, Casey, pesce, kovacevic… devils adding matheson makes them better and habs adding rhd nemec fits the plan of a rebuild
MTL future pairings
Hutson nemec
Guhle reinbacher
Xehjaj Mailloux.

27 May 2025 16:34:22
Habs decline.

28 May 2025 05:05:57
Mailoux , Reinbacher , Engstrom and also that Bogdonovic???? Something like that in KHL, Habs don't need any young Dman..

09 May 2025 15:06:07
Devils Trade
Mercer
Dillon
Nemec
Hameenaho (SM-liiga)
2nd Round Pick 2025

Canucks Trade
QHughes
5th Round Pick 2025



Thoughts ?

09 May 2025 16:17:32
As Jersey, I wouldn't do that. Why give up that much quality youth for 2 years? Either wait, or let Hughes put the pressure on the Canucks to lower the asking price. So that he has a good, deep team to come to.

09 May 2025 17:05:29
memarcusjoe.
Canucks trading their best player and Captain they would want a huge haul imo.
Vancouver isn't going to give QHughes away if traded I believe.
This is something that Vancouver would want in making this type of trade, and NJ gets better immediately.

09 May 2025 17:45:27
Sure that's what Vancouver would want, but that doesn't mean that's what they will get.

If he only wants to go to one team, there isn't a lot of bargaining power.

I wouldn't do it, if he has his heart set on going to Jersey only. I'd wait until the price becomes more reasonable, but that's me, maybe Jersey management is more cavalier with their assets.

26 Apr 2025 16:28:00
Nj: Mercer, Nemec, 2025 2nd

Van: Hughes

This is probably the general base of the trade. Not sure what adds what where but Vancouver gets great NHL ready prospect to replace Hughes on the back end. A talented and young NHL forward, and a second. The salary is about 3m difference which is covered in the cap raise, or moving another peice.

26 Apr 2025 19:31:09
If I was Jersey and Hughes wants to join his brothers that badly, I'd just wait a sign him as a UFA. Why throw away so much quality youth for 2 years?

30 Apr 2025 14:02:13
That's not close for Hughes.

25 Jan 2025 05:39:34
NJD - Hamilton, Mercer

VAN - Boeser, Desharnais, 2025 2nd

Or

NJD - Palat, Nemec, 2nd

VAN - Boeser, Kravtsov.

25 Jan 2025 12:04:03
NJ is overpaying in both proposals.

25 Jan 2025 21:55:22
NJD - Hamilton, Mercer
VAN - Boeser, Desharnais, 2025 1st

NJD - Palat, Nemec, 2025 3rd
VAN - Boeser, Silovs.

26 Jan 2025 11:14:34
All terrible for the Devils.

26 Jan 2025 12:40:57
You'd need alot more than that. Hamilton is a huge price for NJ. And is a huge catalyst as to why they didn't make the playoffs last year. Plus signed for more years.

That proposal might get just meecee from NJ, but your looking at 2 top tier assets along for hamilton.

26 Jan 2025 14:00:58
Boeser is the best player in either proposals.

26 Jan 2025 15:47:21
Hamilton is arguably better then boeser.

23 Jan 2025 23:05:21
To Van

D Mercer, S Nemec

To NJD

JT Miller + 3rd 2025

Is this enough? If not what pick would it take to make this happen?

24 Jan 2025 03:15:12
I wouldn't do that if I were Jersey.

24 Jan 2025 04:17:58
I think that New Jersey would have to get rid of more money. Maybe add palat to it? It seems like he has negative value.

24 Jan 2025 04:43:07
What would it take to make it happen?

25 Jan 2025 02:10:19
Interesting trade Bee! It puts NJ over the cap, so some cap space would need to be moved, but I think it’s pretty clever for both sides?.

12 Jan 2025 23:57:59
I think habs got to reward their core with a blockbuster trade during season and petterson fits the bill ( a lot of smoke coming from Vancouver)
Mtl sends : josh Anderson, kapanen, struble, Calgary 1st
To Vancouver for :
Elias petterson
Montreal also deals with devils
MTL sends : mtl 1st round and Jake evans
To New Jersey for : nemec
Montreal lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Dach petterson laine
Heinemen Newhook Roy
Gallagher Dvorak armia
Def:
Matheson hutson
Carrier Guhle
Savard or nemec xhejaj
2025-26
Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov petterson laine
Newhook dach Roy
Heinemen beck Gallagher
Défense
Matheson hutson
Nemec Guhle
Carrier xhejaj
Mailloux engstrom
With reinbacher, hage, Mesar getting ready to take a spot,

13 Jan 2025 02:22:25
Vancouver says no to the first one. You're not going to be able to dump Anderson for free. He will cost a 1st minimum to dump according to puck pedia.

Jersey says no to the 2nd. Nothing there helps them.

13 Jan 2025 12:47:37
I would agree with Memarcus.

Pettersson is absolutely the wrong kind of addition for the Habs. He doesn't have the mental makeup to help a team become a contender, and is easily defended at playoff time. He's also grossly overpaid. Adding him would hamstring the habs cap for years to come, much how the leafs added Tavares and then never had the cap space to finish their rebuild, especially on the back end.

Nemec is a great young D, and no way NJ trades him unless it's a huge overpay. MTL has lots of good young D coming, so there's no need to deviate from their rebuild. They'll add some more young talent to the roster next year, so no need to skip any steps in the rebuild.

13 Jan 2025 12:47:42
memarcusjoe. there was a first included in the Vancouver trade. but always cautious about players that may cause issues (McGroarty, Gauthier, Matthews) . seem to have ego issues. I agree on passing.

13 Jan 2025 13:27:04
Balsam8. The first is likely a mid-first, so not all that interesting plus I find it highly doubtful Vancouver wants to trade their 1C for futures.

13 Jan 2025 19:37:01
How does Nemec fetch a better return then Pettersson lol.

13 Jan 2025 22:15:08
I don't see this working for any of the teams involved. I think Chicnenfoot explained it best.

For Montreal, I think best thing to do is minor tweaks, but stay tbe path Gorton and Hughes have set.

15 Jan 2025 14:14:36
I agree with Sosa. this rebuild has been going well, play it out.

16 Jan 2025 13:10:21
I think Pettersson would be a great add for the Habs tbh. Most Habs fans were leery about bringing in Laine with concerns of his work ethic and attitude. safe to say it worked out. If they can get him without giving up a significant prospect then why not? Big contract, but the core players are already signed to team friendly deals. Most of the D prospects are right on the cusp of being ready for the NHL so Matheson and Savard can likely be moved soon.

A one two punch of Suzuki and Pettersson is damn good imo. Sometimes guys just need a change of scenery to go back to the player they were.

18 Jan 2025 15:22:09
Well hate to burst everyone's bubble as a diehard canucks fan if anyone is getting traded it won't be pettey it will be the guy that can't keep his emotions in check and basically ripped a strip up his coach after last night's loss. Ultimately it doesn't make sense to trade pettersen first off he is younger and second he isn't a head case like Miller.

18 Jan 2025 20:57:06
@Vancityguy just curious if you think Miller's actions may diminish his trade value or not?

After seeing him go on off on the HC it was made pretty clear the guy doesn't want to be there anymore. Curious to see where he ends up.

09 Jan 2025 19:07:02
There is talk that the Devils are interested in Evans.
NJ: Cotter
Mtl:Evans
Both teams would benefit with this trade. NJ will get an experienced forechecker and faceoff player. Mtl gets a more physical player upfront for the bottom six.

10 Jan 2025 00:22:18
Habs and Evans are working on a new deal.

10 Jan 2025 14:38:09
I hope so Chickenfoot . I'm hoping for 5 at 3.5M. What do you think he will get?

13 Jan 2025 13:17:09
SOSA: I think you're bang-on with 5 x 3.5M. It absolutely has to be less than 4M. On the upper end I could see them going as long as 8 years at 3.5M, which would make him 36 at the end of the deal. (Defensive centers tend to age well, so I could see them going that long if they had to. )

28 Dec 2024 19:15:14
Montreal has to think about trading evans and then resigning him this offseason, I think he could be the most sought after trade to any contenders …2 options
1st option
Mtl trades with Washington
Evans and a 2nd round
To Washington for Ryan Leonard
Out of respect to ovi caps have to go all in now
Option2
Jake evans
To devils for nemec

28 Dec 2024 21:59:28
Only Montreal considers those deals.

29 Dec 2024 02:36:39
Habs wouldn't get either of those top prospects for Evans. Best thing for Habs I think is try and keep him for 4-5 seasons. Don't risk losing him. He's a valuable bottom 6 player that when needed can play top 6 for injury relief as well as a great penalty killer .

29 Dec 2024 12:37:23
Nemec would require a serious package to even get NJ to consider it.

Evan’s will be traded, but it’s unlikely he’ll be re-signed by the Habs. His agent will rightly cash in on the season he’s had, but the challenge will be living up to the AAV he’ll earn. He’s a really good addition to any team, but every player has to slot in at the right cap hit.

30 Dec 2024 13:07:43
You think very highly on Evan's. He'll get a 3rd and a lower prospect.

01 Jan 2025 15:12:37
I suspect a trade for Evans will look similar to, but slightly better, than the Lehkonen trade that made with Carolina when they received a prospect and a 2nd.

Evans is on a 20+ goal pace, is a center who is good in the dot, defensively responsible, and he’s a pending UFA on a cheap deal.

Though it’s possible the Habs could keep him, it’s more likely they trade him. His value will never be higher, and it’s also likely the salary he’ll rightly earn as a UFA will exceed what should be paid a bottom 6 center, even one that can play up in a lineup.

Happy New Year one and all?.

12 Sep 2024 01:52:01
I see another low risk high reward trade for Montreal
Montreal make trade with rangers
Mtl sends :
Savard and a 3rd round (nj devils)
To rangers for:
Kaapo kakko
Rangers fill out their defence with a good defensive defenceman with Stanley cup winner
And mtl gets a high potential player a la laine ( both are Finnish)
2025 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Laine dach kakko
Roy Newhook Anderson
Gallagher evans armia or Dvorak
2026 lineup
Slavkosky Suzuki caufield
Demidov dach laine
Roy Newhook kakko
Gallagher beck Anderson

13 Sep 2024 17:45:06
Apparently the Rangers were shopping him, but took him off the market due to the low offers they were getting.

I'm thinking the Rangers would jump at an offer like this. I'm guessing they'll hope that a new year brings improved play, and perhaps a better offer for him at the trade deadline. At this point I think he is what he is, and I wouldn't give up more than a 2nd to get him.

15 Jun 2024 18:42:29
Montreal trades with devils

Montreal trades caufield and 26th overall
To devils for
10th overall, Alex holtz and Dawson Mercer

Montreal trades with Columbus
Mtl trades Anderson and Barron or Harris
To Columbus for Patrik laine

15 Jun 2024 19:48:22
No & no to each from MTL.

17 Jun 2024 12:16:39
Laine should be cheap to get. he doesn't want to be in Columbus, and he's has off ice struggles. At 8.7 million per year. the cap space is to valuable. A team like Utah mY the a shot at him. but cbj probably adds.

14 Jun 2024 19:23:07
Devils Trade
Mercer (RFA)
Holtz
Nemec
10th Overall Pick 2024

Leafs Trade
Marner*
Jarnkrok
Liljegren
DeWar (RFA)

*Marner would have to both waive his NMC and do a sign and trade otherwise this trade proposal can't happen.


NJ gets the best player in this proposal is why they would do it, all 4 played for Keefe last season with The Leafs so it helps also next season with his first year as coach.

Leafs can really never win a trade trading an elite player like Marner, but it gives them more Cap flexibility to improve as much as possible, all 3 players are solid players and getting the 10th Overall will help in getting a Top prospect in this years draft.



Thoughts ?

14 Jun 2024 19:46:09
Thats so nice of you to come up with a trade proposal that would leave New Jersey with $9.5 million in cap space to sign 6 more roster players including replacements for Holtz, Mercer and Nemec and a starting goalie :)

I mean sure, 2 of those players they're getting from Toronto are RFAs but even if they get signed for what they'll ask for, that still leaves about $5 million to find a stating goalie and round out the bottom 6 and bottom pair D right? Totally doable and exactly what their plan has been all along.

I especially like the part where you tried to make this sound like you're doing New Jersey a favor by trading for 2 of their future best players in Nemec and Mercer by saying that with Marner they're actually the ones getting the best player in this proposal.

And I mean we've all heard the rumors that the Devils are looking to acquire a top 6 forward right? All those rumors about looking for a starting goalie and showing interest in Markstrom, Ullmark and Saros are probably just fake news to distract from their real target which has been Marner all along.

And you even included the 10th overall pick too! :) that's so awesome Pinball. You know after the disappointing season Devils fans just went through watching the team finish bottom 10, I think what the fanbase really wants more than a starting goalie to round out their already complete team is to throw their whole future away for 1 year of Mitch Marner. I'm glad you took the time to look at this from the Devils fans perspectives as well.

I'd give this a 9.5 out of 10 for creativity, it would have been a perfect 10 but you forgot to include Robertson which I'm honestly surprised by since you rarely leave him out of your trades.

14 Jun 2024 19:49:28
"Marner will not be traded, everyone seems to forget a few things.

First of all Treliving isn't trading an elite forward for a package like that, he is too smart to pull that proposal, Treliving is looking to get better not worse and trading Marner doesn't make them better.
Second Marner has stated he is playing out his final year of his contract with TORONTO, he has a NMC in his contract and he has complete control of being traded.
Thirdly The Leafs have 19,405.333 million in Cap Space to improve, players like Cowan, Grebyonkin and Quillan or Minton are options at forward if they focus on Defense and or Goaltending.
Marner didn't have a very good playoff we all know that, but in the previous playoffs he did perform.

Trust me when I say Marner won't be traded, he won't. "

- Pinballisback, June 05, 2024.

14 Jun 2024 20:06:46
Fitz hangs up phone.

14 Jun 2024 21:08:04
#PinballNeedsATimeOut.

14 Jun 2024 21:34:17
Jesus man. NJ is literally a goalie away from being back in the playoffs. Honestly if Hughes hadn't got hurt they probably would've been in there this year. If Treliving got offered this he would take it and disconnect the phones before NJ could call back with second thoughts.

15 Jun 2024 00:37:49
Nashan, Chickenfoot and MG69.

No team wants an elite forward, how silly is that what was I thinking.

Amazing how you all think, and I am delusional?

15 Jun 2024 02:18:30
Don't listen to the haters Pinball. I think you're really good at these trades.

You always find a way to identify a team need for the Leafs like left handed defensemen or 36 year old franchise centers, and when it comes to packaging RFAs and late 1st round picks nobody does it better than you.

Whether it's Kopitar, Laine, Chychrun, or anyone else the Leafs have no use for, you're always finding a way to trade Liljegren, Robertson, and Dewar for the best return possible. ?

For your dedication to being a Leafs homer they should build a statue of you outside of Scotiabank arena looking like this: ?.

15 Jun 2024 05:21:49
I assume 99% of pinballs things are funny joke's.

15 Jun 2024 15:02:24
Shootsmcgee
Lets look at it the other way

NJ Trades
JHughes
Haula
NFoote
Marino

Toronto Trades
Knies
Holmberg
Niemela
1st Round Pick 2024

Does Treliving laugh and hangup the phone?

Give your head a shake it's similar the other way.

15 Jun 2024 16:00:33
PINBALL:

- no way Marner doesn’t go to unrestricted free agency. He will go to market, and why shouldn’t he.

-NJ wants to make a splash in the playoffs, so why would they want a player like Marner?

15 Jun 2024 16:29:16
Pinball, did you just give an example of how ridiculous your trade was with a rebuttal of another ridiculous trade?

15 Jun 2024 16:46:04
Chickenfoot
As I stated on my post he would have to sign a long term contract as well as waive his NMC otherwise no deal.
Now you are twisting my post, truthfully Treliving isn't trading Marner but if he was imo it would look something like I posted.

Marner replaces Mercer
Jarnkrok replaces Holtz
Liljegren replaces Nemec
DeWar is there 4th line centre

Tell me how NJ isn't better with that trade off?

15 Jun 2024 19:34:09
Shootsmcgee
No I gave an example of how Toronto would never do a trade like that, afterall when it's the other way the team not named Maple Leafs have players nobody wants either right?
Has to be every team has garbage players, like NJ who couldn't even make the playoffs last year.
Garbage team and players right shoots?

15 Jun 2024 19:37:01
Because man all of them are cost controlled. We have paid four players $10mill plus and it has gotten us one trip to the second round. Not every team wants to add a big massive contract while giving up players that are cost controlled.

16 Jun 2024 01:32:51
Pinball, you’re embarrassing yourself. No one is twisting your words, you’re just immune to truthful feedback.

Marner will go to Unrestricted Free Agency. Period. He’s not going to forego being a UFA to suit your ridiculous fantasies, period.

17 Jun 2024 12:23:26
NJD definitely hold. Those players are really young and will be good players. It comes down this question:
Is it better to over pay for 1 really good player?

Or

Have slightly less talented players, but still play well with each other?

I think the 1 line toronto experiment is over. NJD say no.

17 Jun 2024 18:00:04
Marner is a fine player but the value people think he will garner is not in touch with reality.
1st he is a small player that disappears when it matters (fact)
2nd he has a huge contract (that alone diminishes returns)
3rd he is not a center (the massive returns expected come from dominant 2 way centers, not soft wingers)
4th he has a NTC and controls the destination (without an extension his value is less that my 2nd point)

11 Jun 2024 13:20:13
Something I think we might see on the draft floor on June 28th is the Calgary Flames drafting back to back in the 1st round.

With their 9th overall pick the Calgary Flames select Berkly Catton from the Spokane Chiefs.

And then... we have a trade to announce.

The New Jersey Devils trade their 10th overall pick to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Jacob Markstrom and the 62nd overall pick.

To New Jersey: Jacob Markstrom, pick #62 (2nd round)

To Calgary: Pick #10

Calgary uses this drama to announce that with the 10th overall pick, they select Tij Iginla from the Kelowna Rockets.

Calgary walks away from day 1 of the draft with 2 top 10 picks and the next generations Iginla to play for the Flames.

New Jersey walks away from day 1 of the draft with their starting goalie solidified and have a 2nd round pick to use on day 2(they currently have no 2nd round pick this year.)

11 Jun 2024 14:49:59
Done deal for both teams.

11 Jun 2024 21:00:41
I’m not sold on Markstrom returning the 10th overall pick. If a goalie is moved for 10th overall I see it being Saros/ Askarov or Sorokin. They are more comparable to Schnider due to age. Markstrom is not exactly young anymore.

09 Jun 2024 09:51:45
Calgary Flames :
- Jacob Markstrom (3M @ 2 UFA)
- 2024 28th Overall Selection (VAN)
- 2024 62nd Overall Selection (DAL)

New Jersey Devils :
- 2024 10th Overall Selection (NJD)


(Flames retain 50% of Markstrom’s Salary)

09 Jun 2024 21:03:24
Using something of a comparable, Cory Schneider was traded straight up for 9OA, not sure Calgary would be adding nearly what you suggest, consider Flames are retaining g.

09 Jun 2024 22:38:30
Cory Schnider was what? Something like 22 years old coming off of an elite cup run. Schnider had hype and hadn’t reached his potential. Markstrom is in his 30s and isn’t comparable at all.

The best comparable is Ben Bishop when traded from Tampa to LA.

10 Jun 2024 20:46:27
Realistic trade.

11 Jun 2024 12:24:15
Schneider was 26 making $4mill. For a team like NJ who is a goalie away from being back in the playoffs I'd say it's a good deal. Markstrom has shown to be a good goalie and with the goalie market being pretty slim NJ may be willing to part with the #10 pick.

05 Jun 2024 02:51:59
Flames ownership turned down Devils’ rumoured offer of Holtz, Conditional 1st + for Markstrom (no retention) during the regular season. Devils are still very interested in Markstrom.


CGY - Jacob Markstrom, (VAN) 28th Overall Selection and (DAL) 62nd Overall Selection
NJD - (NJD) 10th Overall Selection and Alexander Holtz

I think it’s an insane overpayment for Markstrom but this is based off the rumours.

05 Jun 2024 06:20:18
Take out the 28th and seems reasonable.

05 Jun 2024 17:47:44
It does seem like an overpayment, but the devils have a great lineup if they can sort out their net.

You never know which version of Markstrom will show up, but if NJ thinks they’ve found their guy, I can see something like this happening.

Not too long ago goalies seemed plentiful, but now there’s 8 teams or so who need a good one. CGY will get something good, as will BOS if they trade Ulmark?.