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15 Jun 2025 13:15:53
Trade idea
Pittsburgh Trades
2nd Round 59th pick 2025
3rd Round 2026
4th Round pick 2025
5th Round 2025
Colorado Trades
Sean Behrens LD
Thoughts?
15 Jun 2025 19:24:13
High price to pay for an undersized and unproven prospect, although with potential. I think PIT wants to hold on to those picks and trade their vets instead
07 Jun 2025 19:39:29
There are reports that Necas didn’t enjoy Colorado. Habs should inquire
MTL sends: Dach ,17th overall and both second round picks
To AVS for : Necas and Ross Colton
Avalanche get 8 million in cap relief
Habs get a 2c and 3c
Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Demidov Necas laine
Gallagher Colton Anderson
Heineman Evans. Florian xhejaj
This leaves habs with Newhook, Mailloux and 16th overall to potentially trade
22 Feb 2025 00:00:22
Chicago: Jones ( 1 mil retention for this year and next 4) Colorado: mittelstadt (1mil retention this year and next 2 years) and Carolinas 2nd this year.
22 Feb 2025 15:50:55
This seems to be a fair trade as both players could be a great addition to their new team.
17 Feb 2025 01:51:20
Seeing rumors of Crosby going to Colorado because of winning and friends with mackkinon. Thought I'd take a shot. Pittsburgh: Crosby......Colorado: 2025 nyr 2nd, 2026 col 1st, Casey mittlestat, callus Ritchie. Cap should work for now. Or Pittsburgh retains maybe a couple million put their other 2025 2nd and something else.
24 Feb 2025 20:49:17
I do think Crosby will retire as a penguin, just value wise I was suggesting.
08 Dec 2024 05:45:25
Calgary trades
Nazem Kadri 50% retained
Dan Vladar
To
Colorado for
Casey Mittelstadt
Alex Georgiev
What else to make this deal happen?
08 Dec 2024 22:30:39
Calgary would have to add I imagine, I put a similar trade for mrzek and people on here didn't like it. He's playing well but mrzek is the more competent starter but keeps getting injured. Mittelstdt is playing to well to be an add for a bad contract. I'm guessing Colorado is looking to trade a goal for another goalie but pay with draft picks.
08 Dec 2024 23:52:57
Colorado would have to add to that. Calgary giving the better goalie and the better center with retention.
09 Dec 2024 02:05:58
Nashan kadri is a gv away machine, 47% face off. Less points, shooting 9.1% Older and makes more. 50% retained for how many years? That's an easy 2 1sts for retention. First year vladar has ever shown capability of being a starter on a very small sample size. He could easily go back to back up mode like the goalie they already have. Calgary adds.
09 Dec 2024 22:34:06
Kadri 7M 47.3% face off 23 giveaways
Middlestadt 5.75M 40.1% face off 38 giveaways.
10 Dec 2024 00:58:39
NASHAN: I respect your hockey I. Q. You definitely bring informed and realistic insights every time?.
11 Dec 2024 20:21:56
Thx. I try to see things reasonably from both sides.
02 Dec 2024 16:39:48
Colorado deals:
Mikko Ratanen - 9.25
Casey Mittlestat - 5.750
Alexander Georgiev - 3.4
2026 2nd round
Calum Ritchie - .950K
=$19.35 M
To the Pittsburgh Penguins for:
Sidney Crosby - 8.7
Evgani Malkin - 6.1
Tristan Jarry - 5.375
2026 4th
=20.175 M
Was kind of bored and thinking that The Avs might give up some youth to pry Sid to play with Mack. Gino gets a few fellow russians to play with as they try to chase the Stan one more time.
Wonder if Dubas would bite or even be allowed to make a trade, I dunno lol But he at least gain two younger players in Rat and former first round young gun Calum Ritchie. Add Casey down the Middlestat and Maybe Dubas gets a go ahead for a fire sale.
Mackinnon - Sid - Lehkonen
Kovalenko - Malkin - Nichushkin
Be a fun watch ^^
02 Dec 2024 23:26:18
This is easily the most thought-provoking and interesting post in some time.
I suppose Crosby and Malkin agreeing to this would be a big if, but you definitely have the salaries and values evened out nicely.
I really like this one!
05 Dec 2024 13:50:52
It's interesting for sure. With Rantanen being a UFA I can see Dubas being hesitant to give up the core unless an extension was in place. He'd get fired so fast of he made the deal and Rantanen left at year's end.
27 Nov 2024 18:51:26
Col: mittelstadt chi: mrazek
01 Dec 2024 04:19:50
Seems less likely now.
19 Oct 2024 10:35:42
Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor $925,000
* Samuel Poulin &775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen $775,000
Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen $775,000
* TJ Tynan $775,000
Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.
The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.
Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.
Thoughts??
19 Oct 2024 01:00:11
Trade which helps both teams:
Colorado Avalanche
* Tristan Jarry (UFA) $4,573,000
* Drew O'Connor (UFA) $925,000
* Samuel Poulin (RFA) $775,000
* Valtteri Puustinen (UFA) $775,000
Total: $7,048,000.00
Pittsburg Penguins
* Alexandar Georgiev (UFA) $3.4m
* Calum Ritchie (RFA) $950,000
* 15% retained on Tristan Jarry’s Contract is $807,000
* Calle Rosen (UFA) $775,000
* TJ Tynan (UFA) $775,000
Total: $6,707,000.00
Thoughts?
19 Oct 2024 10:39:36
Correction - disregard tbe UFA/RFA note.
Idea of the trade was that two struggling goalies get new opportunities elsewhere.
The Av’s are in win mode now so they get a very good player in O’Connor who can make a difference. O’Connor is a UFA at end of season so Pittsburg resigning him was a gamble and feel that the Avalanche have a better shot.
Plus Puustinen can help the team today. Poulin also gets a fresh start and maybe he can make it work in Colorado.
Both of these players have term on their contract which benefits the Av’s.
Pittsburg has to retain salary only fair due to the term left on Jarry’s contract.
Pittsburg also gets a good prospect in Ritchie.
The other two players are simply throw in’s on the deal to make numbers and bodies work and both are UFA at end of season. They go right to the minors.
Thoughts??
21 Jul 2024 18:52:40
Calgary: Kadri
2026 3rd.
Colorado: Landeskog barring he agreed.
High prospect
Washington sends a bad contract to Calgary in exchange for a 1st and Colorado ends up getting a young prospect in a three way deal. Just spit balling here. Landeskog is out for the season and likely may not play again.
And Washington is in cap hell. Colorado would get Kadri who is still serviceable and a young prospect to make up for what ever Calgary gets in return.
23 Jul 2024 01:32:28
“ what ever Calgary gets in return. ”
Well that’s the question isn’t it? What is Calgary getting for giving up some leadership and a serviceable player and a cap dump to boot. I hope more than the 1st. And yea, COL doesn’t come out of this with a young prospect. They get the 2nd line center they need and they pay for the dump of Landeskogs LTIR hit.
Very confusing post.
16 Jul 2024 16:37:37
Colorado Trades
Future Considerations
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Avalanche have the cap space with LTIR in place for next season, and need to solidify the 4th line.
Leafs get the well needed cap space to continue to change the roster that Treliving talked about.
Thoughts ?
16 Jul 2024 18:15:43
- What in the world are you talking about?
- COL is over the cap with 4 roster spots open, and their LTIR status offers even more questions than answers.
- They are in a really bad spot with many areas of the roster to address, and no cap space to do so, and you think you’re going to dump bad contracts on them for nothing?
- Is this the point when you realize you’re wrong and rather than admit it, you pretend you were joking? (Weak)
#PinballREALLYNeedsATimeout.
16 Jul 2024 19:26:35
Chickenfoot
Incorrect you better look up their Cap Again.
16 Jul 2024 19:43:36
Every week Pinball takes 5% of his Leafs fan education and he allocates it to some other team. This week, pinball is 95% a Leafs fan and 5% an Avalanche fan.
Because he's only been a part time Avalanche fan for 2 days, pinball thinks he can solve Colorados roster issues by solving Torontos cap issues.
I can totally understand how dumping 2 4th liners for magic beans can be considered a win-win for both teams. Great work on this one pinball, you're definitely onto something big with this blockbuster.
17 Jul 2024 02:25:58
Pinball…as the webmasters said…you are in no position to lecture ANYONE on hockey matters.
Perhaps the news of COL cap and depth issues are new to you, but even passively informed hockey fans know COL is more than a tweak away, and your trade proposal is the ultimate “homer deal / fantasy trade” in more ways than one.
17 Jul 2024 13:46:10
Not in hurry to give up Jarnkrok. Can play all the forward positions in a pinch, just need him to stay healthy. I'm unfamiliar with when LTIR actually kicks in but the space could potentially be there with Nush and Landy on LTIR, but I'm pretty positive Landy is suppose to be good to go.
Avalanche are in genuine cap hell though. Likely going to lose Rantanen at season end. Potentially some tough times ahead for them.
03 Jul 2024 09:16:08
Flames need a defensemen, Avalanche need cap space and some cheap depth.
Calgary Flames :
- Brayden Pachal (775K @ 1 RFA)
- Kevin Rooney (1.3M @ 1 UFA)
Colorado Avalanche :
- Samuel Girard (5M @ 3 UFA)
- 2025 2nd Round Pick (NYR)
J Drouin - N MacKinnon - M Rantanen
G Landeskog - C Mittelstadt - V Nichushkin
M Wood - R Colton - N Kovalenko
P Kelly - K Rooney - L O’Connor
D Toews - C Makar
C De Haan - J Manson
E Brannstrom - B Pachal
A Kuzmenko - N Kadri - Y Sharangovich
J Huberdeau - C Zary - A Mantha
B Coleman - M Pospisil - M Coronato
J Pelletier - M Backlund - R Lomberg
M Weegar - R Andersson
K Bahl - S Girard
J Bean - D Miromanov
04 Jul 2024 16:25:59
Colorado is in cap hell going into Rantanen's contract year so I won't be surprised if they explore a deal to clear cap space like this.
They really need to have the conversation with Landy about his playing future, especially if he gets injured again this year. Great player and leader, but can't seem to escape the injury big.
04 Mar 2024 17:12:44
Colorado Trades
6th Round Pick 2024
Toronto Trades
MJones
Thoughts ?
04 Mar 2024 18:09:49
Value is there, although I think maybe Toronto could ask for a 5th
04 Mar 2024 18:10:25
With Francouz being out, I think this is a good deal for Colorado and gives them a bit more depth between the pipes for cheap
04 Mar 2024 19:30:16
I'd prolly look for a 5th or Package one of our small wingers in the ahl for a higher pick.
04 Mar 2024 21:49:12
Why? Jones is good depth.
04 Mar 2024 22:49:26
Agreed vbbbvvbb. Our goaltending isn't steady enough and injuries could happen down the stretch and in the playoffs. As inconvenient as it is I'd rather have three goalies on the main roster.
29 Feb 2024 07:19:14
Habs-allen
Anh- Henrique
Col- Oskar olausson-behrens-1st pick col 2025- 4thpick 2025-joahnsen
Anh retain half on Allen,henrique
Habs-4th pick col
Anh- olausson-behrens-1st pick- Johansen
Col- henrique-allen
I've seen this rumors but with Callum Ritchie , pretty sure avs don't want to part ways with Ritchie so I swap him with olausson and swap the 3rd for a fourth seems more fair
Mtl- armia half retain- 4 the pick col
La - kaliev
22 Feb 2024 16:28:47
3 team proposal.
Arizona Trades
Keller-(Tor)
Dumba*-(Col)
JBrown*+(Tor)
Colorado Trades
O'Connor-(Arz)
Byram-(Arz)
Kero(AHL)-(Tor)
Toronto Trades
Knies-(Arz)
Kampf-(Col)
Jarnkrok-(Col)
Liljegren-(Arz)
Petruzzelli(AHL)-(Arz)
1st Round Pick 2024-(Arz)
3rd Round Pick 2024(NYI Pick)-(Arz)
*Arizona retains 50% of both Dumba and JBrown expiring contract.
So many players in my proposal going here and there to explain it all, but what each team is giving up and what they are getting fits every teams needs imo.
Thoughts ?
22 Feb 2024 18:22:22
Colorado trades Byram and get next to nothing in return.
22 Feb 2024 19:00:49
Ebsolutely
Colorado needs depth on bottom forward lines and Kampf and Jarnkrok do that, Dumba is the hard hitting RHanded Defenceman they are looking for, remember Colorado is looking to win it all this year not rebuilding.
Ok instead of sending the 3rd Rounder to Arizona I will instead send it to Colorado to give Colorado another asset going back for Byam.
What Arizona is getting back I still believe without a 3rd they would agree.
22 Feb 2024 19:08:07
What do the Avs get out of this? What do the Coyotes get out of this? This only benefits us. Avs are fine sitting 2nd in the central, 3rd in the west as a whole, and 5th overall in the entire league. They'll look to add for sure, but not at the cost of Byram unless they are getting a high end player up front in and they most definitely do not add that in this deal. Yotes trade their top player who is signed at a very reasonable contract and is only 25. Even if they hop into a rebuild you know who's going to be apart of it? Clayton Keller.
We are not going to be big game hunting, at least we shouldn't be. Too many uncertainties in net to be confident enough to say this is the year we trade our top prospects, trade our future draft picks away, and go all in for the cup Add a good right handed dman who can slot in on the second or third pairing who can play a responsible game in our end, can skate well enough to transition, and get shots through on the offensive side of things.
22 Feb 2024 21:06:54
Embarrassing Pinball…absolute ?
Take a long weekend and come back with some perspective.
22 Feb 2024 23:08:54
MG69
To start with what are The Avs getting? 3 players that will help them in the playoffs, do you not thinking adding Kampf, Jarnkrok up front and Dumba on defense over O'Connor and Byram makes them better for the playoffs? SMH if you think not.
What does Zona get?
Byram and Liljegren over Dumba and JBrown is that an improvement for next season and beyond?
Keller of course is the best player in the deal but Knies was magic with Cooley in college and he is a young power type forward with skill, in all honesty I would hate to trade Knies but to get Keller you have to, add the 1st and 3rd plus the trade off on defense and a depth goaltender.
That's why Arizona would do that.
As for Chickenfoot we know every Leaf player has no value in your world so why bother saying anything to you.
23 Feb 2024 01:06:19
No team wants Dumba. He doesn’t make the avalanche.
23 Feb 2024 01:48:32
Pinball it doesn't. O'Connor has more points than Kampf and Jarnkrok. Byram has more god damn points than Kampf and the same amount as Jarnkrok and he's on the third pair for defense and the second powerplay unit. You know who he also has more points than. Dumba! Refer to the standings man and tell me why in the world they should look to get rid of Byram and O'Connor when they don't get better after the fact. If they want to add depth there will be cheaper options who won't cost them Byram in the process. Kampf is a cap dump at this point. I'm sure they'd love to add Jarnkrok as he falls into that depth category, but if we were to say "It's going to cost you Byram. " they would laugh at us and look else where.
Well aware like everyone else in the hockey world that Knies and Cooley had great chemistry in college, but why do you think that warrants the idea that they should give up the better player and their best player for that hope that it translates to the NHL level. Keller is apart of their future. He's had success stat wise with little supporting cast, on a team friendly deal, can play every forward position, is only 25.
So again I ask you, why do the Arizona Coyotes and the Colorado Avalanche do this deal?
23 Feb 2024 15:55:25
Its easier to say you want Keller in Toronto, which doesn't solve the Leafs biggest issues which is their defense and goaltending depth.
This also doesn't look like the year for Toronto to go all in for the cup, considering their lack of scoring depth and the lack of draft picks and already thin prospect pool. Throwing that 1st rounder away would put them 2 steps further back. They should either hold out and go with the team they've built already, or try and grab a RHD that's making under $2m, but even with that they'll get in trouble when stacked up against a team like Florida or NYR in the playoffs.
23 Feb 2024 17:38:09
Couldn't agree more DrwDave. If we can grab a RHD at a reasonable cap hit that isn't going to cost the farm then absolutely for it. But at this point I'd rather see them let it ride for the year and regroup in the offseason. With any luck we will get some depth scoring going like we had last night against Vegas and it carries through to the playoffs.
23 Feb 2024 19:00:12
That one is absolutely brutal for Colorado.
23 Feb 2024 23:21:05
PINBALL: every time you blame feedback on your trades on someone being “anti-leafs” it’s even more embarrassing than your trade proposals, especially this one that has NOTHING for COL.
Others have noted this is a crappy deal for COL. You are too biased to recognize they are right.
? Crying in Baseball
? No Whining About Yout Trade Feedback.
27 Feb 2024 10:36:39
COL trades Byram, O’Connor & Kero for Jarnkrok, Kampf & Dumba? nah wtf
29 Feb 2024 16:47:16
Right @NotACasual? What an absolute steal for them. ?.
18 Feb 2024 15:49:58
Colorado wants to acquire a centre and they know Kadri very well. Maybe they would entertain a possible return?
CGY - Nazem Kadri, 2026 3rd and Parker Bell
COL - Samuel Girard
Flames get younger, slightly cheaper and acquire a Hanifin replacement. Kadri has put up pretty good numbers during his short time in Calgary despite playing on a mediocre defense-first team.
Nazem Kadri ( 7.00 @ 6 UFA )
Samuel Girard ( 5.00 @ 4 UFA )
Kadri’s Point Production :
CGY - 82GP | 24G 32A | 56Pts
CGY - 55GP | 17G 28A | 45Pts
(Leading the Flames in points, 3rd in points last season)
Colorado lacks wingers in their prospect pool and picks so I thought adding would make it a little more enticing given Kadri’s contract. Colorado trades from a position of strength for a much needed centre, winger prospect and draft pick while only losing 2mil towards the cap.
19 Feb 2024 22:54:30
Why would Calgary have to add above Kadri on this deal?
20 Feb 2024 02:07:36
@Nashan cause Avs are taking all the risk, he's 33 getting paid for another 6 years.
20 Feb 2024 20:46:04
Don’t think avs are taking all the risk. How good is Girard hiding behind toews and makar?
02 Feb 2024 11:24:09
PlayStation mode
Mtl - gallagher-allen 50 retain
EDM - Campbell
But to make it work, nashville is included in the trade
They retain 50% on both Gallagher and Campbell
For that, they receive
EDM 1st and Broberg
Mtl 2nd (Colorado) and Barron
So when Habs buy out cambpell at the end of season and EDM buyout Gally after the playoffs run or maybe the next year, Nsh absorb half of the deadcap. Make it very affordable for the 3 teams.
EDM get 2 usefully depth player and cap space
Mtl get cap space, resolve issues with the 3 goaltender situation and send Gallagher to his hometown, Cup contender.
Nsh get very interesting assets
02 Feb 2024 12:15:02
- MTL & NSH decline.
- NSH can only retain on one more salary, so they couldn't participate fully as described in this transaction.
- the next 4 years NSH has some "Minnesota-esque" cap penalties for contract buyouts & retained salary:
. 2024-25: 11.8M
. 2025-26: 8.8M
. 2026-27: 3.55M
. 2027-28: 3.55M.
04 Feb 2024 17:51:26
Oilers decline.
17 Jan 2024 17:22:32
COL - Bowen Byram and Conditional 2024 2nd
CGY - Elias Lindholm (50% Salary Retained)
Condition : If the Avalanche advance to the Conference Finals, the draft pick turns into their 2024 1st.
Contracts :
Bowen Byram - 3.85 @ 2 UFA
Elias Lindholm - 2.42 @ 1 UFA (50% Retention)
Reasons : Colorado needs another skilled forward after placing Landeskog and Lehkonen on LTIR, and Nichushkin on NHLPA Player Assistance Program. Flames need to get younger and if they trade Noah Hanifin they’d need a Top 4 LHD replacement.
Cons : Bowen Byram has been quite injury prone through his short career playing 130 regular season games and 27 playoff games in 4 seasons. Elias Lindholm is a UFA and isn’t performing like his usual self but you could argue that he doesn’t have the best linemates on a bad team.
17 Jan 2024 18:27:11
I think I undersold Lindholm a little with Robertson and a 2nd but I don’t think this is close. Lindholm is a career 60 point guy. The only way I could see Colorado entertaining this is if they think Byrams injuries are a big problem.
18 Jan 2024 13:23:40
This is hard. Lindholm got Huberdeau right after a 115 point season, and that was a disaster. Byram had high hopes, but has had his fair share of injuries.
Lindholm wont get any better, just hope he can get back to where he was. Byram is 7 years younger and if he could stay healthy, could be a great player. or could keep getting injured and benched.
I kinda like this risk vs/ risk proposal.
18 Jan 2024 15:19:23
Habs have COL 2nd 2024.
18 Jan 2024 15:21:04
Habs have COL 2024 2nd.
19 Jan 2024 16:24:50
I think that works good for Calgary and Colorado only if we get rid of noah
08 Jan 2024 17:22:22
To CGY:
-2024 1st,Mavrik Borque,Christian Kyrou cap dump (faksa or lindell)
To DAL:
-Noah Hanifin, Dillon Dube
To CGY:
- 2024 1st, Bowen Byram
To COL:
- Elias Lindholm, Dennis Gilbert
To Cgy:
-2024 1st, Topi Niemela
To TOR: Chris Tanev (50 retained), Adam Ruzicka
To Cgy:
-2024 1st, Micheal McLeod, Lenni Hammenaho
To NJ:
-Jacob Markstrom (50 %retained - that's this year plus 2 more @ 3m cap hit)
To CGY:
-Brayden Yager
To PIT:
-Andrew Mangiapane (50% retained- this year and next)
Zary-Kadri-Pospisil
Huberdeau-Mcleod-Sharangovich
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Greer-Faksa?-Duehr
Weegar-Andersson
Byram-Desimone
Solovyov-Niemela
Wolf
Vladar
Let Bourque and Coronato rip up the AHL this year and bring em up at the end of the year. Kyrou and Hameenaho and Yager really fill up that cupboard too
08 Jan 2024 20:16:27
No from Flames
Fair
No from Leafs
Fair
Idk
04 Jan 2024 07:24:48
Think this works for all teams involved. Not sure how far off I am.
Calgary trades
Lindholm
Hanifin 50% retained
Colorado trades
Ryan Johansen
Bowen Byram
3rd 2025
3rd 2026
I think Hanifin will walk in free agency but Lindholm could be retained for a decent price, especially if landeskog comes back next year.
Then flip Johansen
Calgary trades
Ryan Johansen 50% retained
2024 4th
2025 7th
Rangers trade
Kaapo Kakko
2024 2nd
Easy kaako needs fresh start
Rangers need right wing/ center help
Then
Calgary trades
Tanev 50% retained
Colorado`s 3rd 2025
Edmonton trades
Broberg
Holloway
Deharnais & Erne to make cap work
Tanev can pair with Nurse
Both Broberg & Holloway need fresh starts.
This I think helps all teams involved and jump-starts Calgary's rebuild with players around the same age as Coronato and Zary
Thought?
04 Jan 2024 17:19:18
I was with your reasoning on the first trade as that gives Colorado a serious boost to win it all again, but after that you lost me. Especially on the Cgy-Edm trade, Tanev for 2 1st rd prospects + other assets is just greedy.
05 Jan 2024 16:38:34
I agree with Musing, but I really find it difficult to imagine COL trading Byram.
05 Jan 2024 19:33:03
Flames wouldn’t touch that, they’d get better value trading them separately.
05 Jan 2024 22:59:16
The top UFA center on the market. And no 1st round picking moving.
Top UFA LHD known to be available, and no 1st round pick moving.
Hard no from Calgary.
06 Jan 2024 17:26:27
You’d rather a 1st over Byram? Also I don’t think it’s a good idea for Oil to trade young players for UFA’s.