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16 Sep 2025 02:46:44
Which trade out of these makes more sense for habs ( I believe by the state of these team these are fair trades)
1- habs make a splash
Montreal sends : Hage , engstrom ,Roy and both 2026 2nd rounders
To ducks for : McTavish ( bridge him 3x5 per or make room for a long term 7.5 per)
2- habs trade with rival to add a stop gap 2c until hage is ready
MTL sends: struble and ( kapanen or beck)
To Boston for : Zacha
3- habs add a veteran proven winner 2 c stop gap for hage
MTL sends : ( beck or kapanen) a 2nd and 3rd round
To Nashville for Ryan oreilly
4- habs make a smaller scale splash for 2c
MTL sends : matheson and 3rd round
To Seattle for Jared McCann
16 Sep 2025 13:09:46
McCann is a winger not a center.
16 Sep 2025 16:18:54
I am happy with the current roster. The additions of Dobson and Bolduc a long with depth peices like Valeno and maybe even Blais are going to help. Obviously Dach is the wildcard in alot that happens this season. I'm excited to see what the Habs have.. another year of growth, Gonna be fun to see how it goes !
16 Sep 2025 18:52:39
I agree with Sosa.
Leave the lineup as-is until some teams drop out of contention on or before the Trade Deadline. They built the cap space to have the flexibility to make whatever becomes necessary to do. No need to rush things till they see what they have and what needs present themselves.
16 Sep 2025 23:18:07
Probably trading for ROR, it's just a matter of fact if Nashville really wants to let him go.
17 Sep 2025 17:20:25
Time will tell if it’s a fact the Habs would trade for him. Until then it’s speculation.
02 Jul 2025 17:57:19
Toronto looking for a center and Nashville may have what they need.
TOR: Stamkos - $8,000,000
NAS: McMann and Carlo and 2026 3rd pk $4,835,000
03 Jul 2025 12:59:12
Toronto has had interest in one particular center and now is the time to make the deal.
TOR: McMann and Carlo and 2026 3rd pk $4,835,000
STL: Schenn - 2 yrs left on a 8 yr at 6.5 million.
08 Jul 2025 23:46:22
Don’t think Stamkos is worth anything without retention. Schenn does have value tho.
05 May 2025 03:59:56
I believe rangers are gonna go for a retool, I think they’ll go after Mitch marner and to do that they’ll have to trade panarin and or will give up on Lafreniere after a 45 point in 82 games
This is where habs should strike. Panarin would be perfect for demidov
Habs trade : Newhook, Anderson, both 2025 first round, both 2025 2nd round picks , Jaden struble and Owen beck
To rangers for : panarin and Lafrenière
Habs trade with Nashville
MTL sends : Mailloux , Roy , 3rd round
To Nashville for Ryan oreilly
Slavkosky Suzuki Caufield
Panarin oreilly demidov
Gallagher Dach Lafrenière
Heinemen Evans Florian Xhekaj
26 Apr 2025 21:50:23
Wondering if habs can trade laine in offseason for 3 options hoping laines name carries value
1- mtl trades with buffalo: mtl sends laine for Alex tuch, habs save 3.5 million
2- mtl trades laine to Nashville: laine for o Reilly, habs save 4.2 million
3- mtl trades with Pitts : laine for Malkin to mentor Demidov, habs save 1.6 million
This gives habs plenty of cap and players to trade ( Dach, Mailloux, kapanen, beck, engstrom, Roy, struble, farrel ) and premium picks to add!
Wouldn’t hate Rasmus Anderson for the right price to solidify dcore
Anderson hutson
Carrier guhle
Reinbacher matheson
And still add a top 6 forward.
26 Apr 2025 22:39:58
I really thought things would work out for Laine in Montreal. What the heck happened?
He's just been sliding downhill since Winnipeg moved on from him.
26 Apr 2025 23:33:11
If the sabres agreed to trade Tuch for that plug Laine, they may as well fold the team.
03 Mar 2025 15:04:06
3 way trade proposal.
Carolina Trades
Rantanen*
Nashville Trades
Chistyakov (KHL)
*Caines retain 50% of Rantanen's expiring contract.
Carolina Trades
Tokarski (AHL)
Toronto Trades
Domi
Hildeby (AHL)
Danford (OHL)
1st Round Pick 2026
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
Rantanen**
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Minton (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025
**Preds retain another 50% of Rantanen's expiring contract.
A lot of moving pieces but imo this would make all 3 teams happy making a transaction like this.
Thoughts ?
03 Mar 2025 15:25:34
You asked for thoughts but you didn't listen to the feedback.
Salary retention requires draft pick compensation. Ex: Chicago retained 26% of Seth Jones salary for 5 years and received a conditional 1st round pick. Ryan Lindgren was traded to Colorado with 50% retention and the Rangers received 2 picks.
You're asking for 50% retention from 2 different teams but you're offering no draft picks to compensate for the extra help.
And this is exactly why nobody likes or respects you. There are actual NHL trades that happened this weekend you could have used as a blueprint or reference for your own trades, instead you chose to yet again show your Toronto bias and lack of knowledge in regards to hockey trades.
Let's get back to Earth pinball, you're asking for 2 top 6 forwards at 50% discounts (75% off in Rantanens case) and your return for dumping Domi is a better package than what you've suggested to trade with Nashville.
03 Mar 2025 16:08:53
DrwDave
Huh no Draft Picks?
Carolina gets a 1st Round Pick
Nashville gets a 2nd Round Pick
When it comes to draft pick compensation.
Can you read?
03 Mar 2025 16:35:38
DrwDave
Since maybe it's too many moving parts for you to understand so I will try to help you process.
Carolina trades Rantanen and Tokarski with 50% retention of Rantanen's EXPIRING contract getting Domi, Hildeby, Danford, Chistyakov and a 1st Round Pick 2026.
Nashville Trades O'Reilly and Chistyakov with Nashville retaining another 50% of Rantanen's EXPIRING contract getting NRobertson, Minton and a 2nd Round Pick 2025.
Toronto gets O'Reilly, Rantanen and Tokarski trading away Domi, NRobertson, Minton, Hildeby, Danford, 2nd Round Pick 2025 and a 1st Round Pick 2026.
Now do you understand?
03 Mar 2025 16:44:40
Yeah, there’s Pinball, asking for people’s “thoughts”, and then getting insulting and pouty when people share their “thoughts”.
Your posts are a waste of everyone’s time Pinball. May the results of the trades this deadline finally sink in so that you can offer more realistic trades in the years to come. (You won’t, but here’s hoping. )
? Homer Trades
? Whining About Feedback.
03 Mar 2025 17:11:13
I understand you're reaching when it comes to what you value Robertson and Domi to be worth on the trade market and you're trying to package out all the low value depth like you always do.
You knew what you were doing when you came up with this crap, and you definitely knew you weren't offering fair value to Nashville or Carolina for two quality players.
For the last time, don't ask for thoughts from us if you can't be receptive to the feedback you receive.
O'Reilly is on the block, Toronto can likely have him for Domi, Minten/ Cowen, and a conditional 2nd round pick. The rest of this crap doesn't even need to happen it's just fluff.
You're dreaming if you think Toronto can acquire both O'Reilly and Rantanen for this piss poor return.
03 Mar 2025 21:17:50
Chickenfoot
I wasn't whining about feedback I was correcting DrwDave that my proposal had no draft picks in it when it did a 1st and 2nd.
In the end Carolina will be trading from weakness not strength as Rantanen could walk and The Caines get nothing.
If they do trade Rantanen to any team it won't be for what you and other's might think because nothing is long term for him period.
By Friday everyone will know what happens right?
Then we shall see.
03 Mar 2025 22:16:09
Carolina for sure would get more value out of Rantanen by keeping him for this playoff run than they get by trading him for a 1st and throw away pieces.
04 Mar 2025 00:00:03
Pinball, as the moderator once told you, you are in no position to lecture A-N-Y-O-N-E when it comes to hockey.
Your snarky replies to DRW Dave are as out of line as your ill-informed ideas about what constitutes a realistic hockey trade.
04 Mar 2025 02:52:31
Chickenfoot
Lecture DrwDave?
No I was only correcting his mistake and he was completely W-R-O-N-G saying there was no draft picks in my proposal.
Who I am who anyone is on this site nobody is better than anyone else and you're completely out of line judging me with your snarky replies.
I never insult anyone but you seem to do it every chance you get, time to grow up Chickenfoot imo.
04 Mar 2025 13:32:44
@Pinball,
You say this
In the end Carolina will be trading from weakness not strength as Rantanen could walk and The Caines get nothing
But isn't that the same as what could happen to the Leafs with Marner.
Maybe the trade should be, Marner for Rantanen, not some convoluted trade that is highly in the Leafs favour.
04 Mar 2025 14:06:05
Renidrag
The difference between both players is Marner has a NTC Rantanen doesn't, plus Marner has a history here and probably will resign.
Rantanen I truly believes walks and Carolina doesn't want another Guentzel situation like last off season imo.
Carolina might just hold on to him for this years playoffs we won't know until Friday or before.
04 Mar 2025 16:38:54
Pinball, here’s some of your snarky replies to DRW Dave:
- “Can you read? ”
- “DrwDave Since maybe it's too many moving parts for you to understand so I will try to help you”
- Dubious explanation followed by a condescending “Now do you understand? ”
DRW Dave frequently has good ideas, conducts himself with restraint, and doesn’t whine when someone doesn’t like his trade ideas. He’s an adult, and conducts himself like one. You are in no position to ever be condescending to anyone on this page. Your words and ideas are yours alone.
? Whining.
02 Mar 2025 16:33:39
2 Trade Proposals
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
LSchenn*
Toronto Trades
Domi
Timmons
Minton (AHL)
*Preds retain 50% of LSchenn's remaining contact.
NYRangers Trade
RSmith**
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
2nd Round Pick 2025
**Rangers retain 50% of RSmith's expiring contract.
Leafs improve the 3rd line without giving up the farm except for Minton and a 2nd Rounder and are at the cap limit after retention from The Preds and Rangers.
Thoughts ?
02 Mar 2025 17:23:12
You need to include draft pick compensation for salary retention. Chicago retained 23% of Seth Jones' salary for 5 years and received a conditional 1st round pick in return.
Your last trade offer for O'Reilly was better.
O'Reilly with no salary retention for Domi, Minten or Cowen, and a 2nd round pick would be fair value.
23 Feb 2025 15:30:10
2 trade proposals
Carolina Trades
Rantanen*
Toronto Trades
Domi
Minton (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2027
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly**
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Cowan (AHL)
2nd Round Pick 2025
*Canes retain 50% of Rantanen's expiring contract.
**Preds retain 1.5 million of O'Reilly's remaining contract.
If Toronto really wants to go for it this season these 2 proposals would put them in a much better place in the playoffs, if they have some cap and assets the last piece would be a Top 4 RHanded Defenceman if possible.
Thoughts ?
23 Feb 2025 19:04:51
Those are Torontos 2 best and pretty much their only nhl prospects, Toronto would be all in this year. Matthew's proven he's nothing in big games, selling a lot of future's. This would put put Toronto in a rebuild for years but it's realistic price.
23 Feb 2025 19:56:39
Pinball stop trying to trade Toronto's useless 4th line players and overhyped minor league players for talented NHL players and then expect $ retention. Shame.
23 Feb 2025 21:24:02
islandjet1
There isn't one 4th line player in my proposal, plus I have added The Leafs top 2 prospects that are real top prospects and a 1st in 2nd Rounder.
What are you talking about?
You aren't making any sense whatsoever.
23 Feb 2025 22:15:04
I don't think the Rantanen trade would happen but I do think the O'Reilly one would be possible.
I Would add Domi to the O'Reilly trade and remove the retention from Nashville.
Or keep the Nashville retention, include Domi, and make the 2nd round pick a Conditional 1st round pick if the Leafs advance to the East finals.
20 Feb 2025 14:29:54
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly*
3rd Round Pick 2025
Toronto Trades
NRobertson
Minton (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2026
*Preds retain 1.5 million of O'Reilly's remaining contract.
Thoughts ?
21 Feb 2025 03:24:04
Remove the salary retention and 2025 3rd round pick and this is a deal for both teams.
22 Feb 2025 19:58:14
Way too much for O’Reilly.
04 Jan 2025 14:17:59
Ottawa trades Josh Norris
Nashville trades Ryan O'Reilly
Nashville season is done and they can build to the future with someone that is younger and still has upside.
Ottawa gets the style of player they need to push for the playoffs and a guy you need in the playoffs.
May need to add picks or players to make it happens, but at the core this might be worth it for both teams.
29 Nov 2024 14:41:12
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Minton
1st Round Pick 2026
Kampf will have to waive his NTC if Nashville isn't on his list, O'Reilly doesn't have a NTC or NMC.
Toronto has a window to add to their forward group and even though I like Minton a lot The Leafs will have to add him imo for The Preds to bite on trading O'Reilly.
Nashville in not a rebuild as much as a retool and this type of proposal helps with that in imo.
Thoughts ?
29 Nov 2024 18:22:40
Nashville has 3 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks in this year's draft to accelerate their retool. O'Reilly is part of their core to bring the team back to a contender, he's not likely on the trade block and if he is, with the talent already on the Predators roster I'd be willing to bet they'd rather do a "hockey trade" for a roster player to get them back on track instead of a prospect + future draft pick.
This trade only helps the Leafs and it only helps the Leafs because of current injuries. As much as you want to spend your time offering the whole trade block for 1 player, they don't need another forward.
29 Nov 2024 18:29:39
That's a YES from NSH - good one Pinball!
01 Dec 2024 04:06:46
Chickenfoot
I almost fell over seeing your response lol.
02 Dec 2024 00:47:45
PINBALL: it’s never personal, it’s always about whether it makes sense to me or not. This one to me makes sense, and kudos to you?.
24 Nov 2024 15:36:18
Nashville Trades
O'Reilly
McCarron
Toronto Trades
Kampf
Jarnkrok
Holmberg
NRobertson
1st Round Pick 2026
Very similar to The O'Reilly trade The Leafs did with The Blues a few years back, no salary retaining in this proposal just a good old fashion trade.
Thoughts ?
24 Nov 2024 23:16:40
Even if orally is available for trade he has upped his value since that trade. Right now he seems to be playing as a high end 2c.
25 Nov 2024 01:24:35
Nashville declines. If they move O’Reilly they’ll do much better than this. They’ll get a nice package of a high-end prospect for their rebuild, a 1st and a 2nd.
This trade, predictably, is generous to the leafs and ignores what NSH would need in return to make such a trade work.
25 Nov 2024 12:32:19
Chickenfoot
Of course you dissected as O'Reilly being more than he is and The Leaf Players being less than their value.
Am I surprised by your response?
Absolutely not as this is your thing no matter what I post.
Cheers.
25 Nov 2024 16:34:24
@Chckenfoot so you’re telling me Malioux, protected 1st and 2nd would be a fair trade for O’Rielly in a vacuum?
If anyone offers them a “High end prospect”, 1st and 2nd then the Preds GM would drive him to the airport personally.
26 Nov 2024 03:51:42
Average pinball trade:
Everything the Leafs have on the trade block in exchange for a forward.
26 Nov 2024 10:21:55
- Pinball, why post one-sided, homer trades like this if you’re just going to whine? Embarrassing.
- People don’t have a bias against your team. Learn the lesson here: your trades are always inordinately heavily weighted towards your team, with little or no thought give as to what another team might need.
- IF O’Reilly were to move; as a Conn Smythe-winning center he’d be immensely valuable for a cup run if slotted correctly in a 2C situation. He’d bring a healthy return.
- a 1st is a given, but you didn’t include compensation for the cap dump that Kampf currently is.
- Robertson’s trade value has been covered. He’s not a trade “asset”. He’s an insignificant throw-in who will be lucky to get an NHL contract next year. (Is this news to anyone else? )
- Holmberg is 25 with just over a hundred NHL games. He is what he is, but he’s not a coveted trade asset.
Quantity doesn’t equal quality, and as Tom Hanks famously said, “there’s no crying in baseball! ” (Or a hockey trade forum. )
26 Nov 2024 15:57:21
Chickenfoot
As usual you're ? wrong.
Cheers.
26 Nov 2024 19:00:27
Justin Williams won a conn Smyth that doesn’t mean he’s worth all of that. O’Rielly is closer to Williams age than Bedard. O’Rielly we’ll be retired in 3 years he is nothing at this point besides a mediocre 3C who’s elite in the Dot. He has value but if Nashville is offered a 1st from any team they should take that and play their younger guys imo.
27 Nov 2024 04:30:43
VBB…. or whatever name you’re going by tonight…are you okay?
- Williams is 43, and in the Hall of Fame. O’Reilly is still playing. They’re 10 years apart…what are you talking about? Do you think the market values are the same in this season as a decade ago? ?
- not sure how Bedard got into this conversation…. or Williams for that matter. Or why you asked what I’m saying about a “Mailloux trade”, which I’ve never mentioned on this site. Not sure what your deal is, maybe it’s time to start a few more burner accounts on here? ?.
28 Nov 2024 03:43:55
If O’Reilly turns it around and has a decent season he might get a 1st but good chance it’s only a 2nd IMO.
21 Aug 2024 06:08:42
Cal: corranato, 2nd. Nash: Askarov. I think preds would want a 1st , but a 2nd with a very young ready middle 6 guy maybe? I'd like to see the 2 best young goalies split time and figure it out later. I've seen a few different things Nashville is wanting so no idea.
22 Aug 2024 01:03:03
See where you are going with proposal but from Calgary perspective not sure giving futures away is in cards at this point.
22 Aug 2024 04:03:18
Buy out vladar and save cap, not like Calgary needs it, they could take a cap dump player also. I don't know who that would be though.
22 Aug 2024 15:22:06
Anyone know if teams can trade dead cap space? If so maybe Duchene cap space Askarov svenchkov for Anderson.
24 Aug 2024 01:43:48
Guess not ?. Lol.
22 Jul 2024 15:36:43
Calgary Trades
Wolf (RFA)
Nashville Trades
Glass
Lankinen
Preds looking for some Cap relief and The Flames with a ton capitalize on this proposal.
I believe you will see similar trades to this the rest of the off season of teams against the Cap ceiling trading good players for less to teams with a lot of Cap.
Thoughts ?
22 Jul 2024 16:33:30
I don't see why Calgary would be in a hurry to deal Wolf at all. He's there guy going forward and there's really no reason to deal him.
22 Jul 2024 19:04:01
Lankinen is a UFA so my mistake putting him in a trade proposal, I will change it up and Trade Glass to Calgary for a 3rd Round Pick.
Thoughts?
22 Jul 2024 20:36:45
NO NO NO. Wolf isn’t going anywhere. I believe you might be correct about cap relief trades. Wolf at this point is worth more than Glass and lankinen so how is that for cap relief.
22 Jul 2024 22:56:42
Pinball, are you serious or this is just a joke? Wolf isn't going anywhere and definitely not for that return.
24 Jul 2024 11:46:06
- why would either team consider this trade?
- Wolf is going to get meaningful games for CGY this year.
- NAS already has a great goalie prospect in Askarov, so why do they need Wolf?
- you seriously need to consider posting MUCH less. Hockey knowledge clearly isn’t your thing. This is embarrassing.
02 Jul 2024 03:41:26
To Montreal- Askarov
To Nashville- Primeau- Harris - Hage, 2025 2nd
02 Jul 2024 03:59:48
Sorry. I recant haha.
28 Jun 2024 02:55:54
Montreal trade with Nashville
Mtl trades
26th overall, mesar,Harris, Barron, Anderson
To Nashville for:
Askarov and Cody glass
28 Jun 2024 04:08:11
I can’t see Nashville doing this. Montreal is getting the two best pieces and giving up 1-2 junk (Anderson and Barron) .
28 Jun 2024 13:44:17
Askarov isn't going anywhere.
28 Jun 2024 15:05:14
Id be happy with this. Don't see it happening however.
28 Jun 2024 15:24:48
MTL respectfully declines.
- Askarov is a highly rated prospect, but Glass hasn't distinguished himself yet.
- As a rebuilding team MTL is unlikely to have invested draft capital in goalies last year and then block a developmental path for them this year by adding Askarov.
- If MTL trades 4 pieces it will be for a top-end forward.
- Anderson is currently a cap dump, who will have trade value in 3 years when he's a pending UFA with MTL retaining salary to move him. Nonetheless, I like the player, and given where MTL is in their rebuild, I prefer to keep him.
28 Jun 2024 16:41:44
If Saros is resigned Askarov will be traded and it’ll be it’ll be for a high pick or very good prospect.
28 Jun 2024 18:34:20
I didn't notice Anderson attached to this.
Chickenfoot: I see what your saying about this, but wouldn't it be a wise investment to obtain Askarov if you could? Do you beleive Fowler is the Canadiens goalie of the future?
28 Jun 2024 20:40:32
I can't really see MTL doing this either. Glass is already 25, not worth all that much and is a dime a plenty on the MTL roster. Askarov sounds great, but the need isn't really there, especially for a 1st.
29 Jun 2024 16:17:04
SOSA: full respect to Askarov, and since I stink at projecting Goalies, I can’t begin to say whether Fowler or someone else will emerge as the goalie of the future. I think they have some interesting choices in-house, but I truly have no idea.
Anderson was in there, and while I am realistic about what he is after last year, I still like him?.
29 Jun 2024 16:36:37
I'm with you Chickenfoot, on Anderson. He can be frustrating haha, and I can't see a year like last one for him. He also doesn't need to score goals and points to be a difference maker.
29 Jun 2024 18:00:49
If Saros is resigning that's telling me either they think Askarov is still a few years away or they are prepared to unload him for some immediate help in another area.
I have watched a few of Fowler's games after hearing Biz and Whit talking about him and he's everything you could want in a goalie prospect; just a matter of when he gets to the league.
24 Jun 2024 19:58:56
The big rumour out here now is a deal around
Carolina: Necas
Nashville: Saros
For those who play fantasy this will massively increase both players value. Necas will get prime time offensive minutes beside Forsburg-O'Rielly and obviously Saros on a powerhouse Carolina team will be terrifying.
25 Jun 2024 03:18:14
Interesting swap. What's Andersen's status on Carolina? And Kochetkov for that matter too? Don't see Saros as a need for the Hurricanes unless they are getting rid of one of those guys. Maybe one of them going with Necas and another piece going with Saros?
25 Jun 2024 20:08:31
I’d assume Anderson will head to Nashville.
20 Jun 2024 13:19:52
Leaf to rebuild backend. They will keep big solid D Edmundson and move out all but Rielly and McCabe. Marner to be traded to Nashville of Saros. Bertuzzi leaves and Duchene comes in.
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Tavares - Duchene - Necas
Toffoli - Domi - McMann
Järnkrok- Kämpf - Reaves
Rielly - Walker
Zadorov - Montour
McCabe -Edmundson
Saros
Woll
20 Jun 2024 16:09:37
What is the Necas trade? Does this fit under the salary cap?
20 Jun 2024 16:12:39
No salary cap?
21 Jun 2024 06:14:04
LOL all players will play on league minimum salaries.
22 Jun 2024 00:25:10
hdsfacts34
Good call on everything you posted, I can actually see The Leafs doing all this to make themselves solid for next season.
17 Jun 2024 16:44:18
For the record, I dont think Marner wants to be traded but ultimately the decision to trade him comes down to him and whether he feels hes lived out his welcome in Toronto.
With Nashville, it seems like there are many fits that make them the leading candidate if Marner wants out. The line chemistry with O'Reilly, the cap space to sign long term, and a passionate fanbase that has realistic expectations of him and the team.
So with that being said, if Marner were to submit a trade list and Nashville was on it:
To Nashville:
Mitch Marner ($10.9m until 2025)
To Toronto:
Jusse Saros ($5m until 2025)
Luke Evangelista ($797.5k until 2025)
2024 2nd round pick (Winnipegs, 59th overall)
I've been wondering if Marner for Saros 1 for 1 is fair enough or if Nashville would be adding.
I've also looked through their entire roster to figure out what else Toronto could/would ask for in this blockbuster. Evangelista brings the most trade value being on an ELC with 54 points in 104 NHL games. He's not replacing Marner's talent or point production, but he's an ideal player to bring in for a middle 6 forward who might develop into a 50-60 point winger.
The late 2nd round pick seems unnecessary, you could argue its not needed or that its the last ask from Treliving to get the best return for Marner.
Currently, Toronto/Treliving doesnt have a 2nd round pick to use until 2027. The late 2nd round pick holds very little value but if Trotz was asked for a pick to be included in a Marner package, Nashville has 3 2nd round picks this year and 2 in 2025.
Since I'm not a Leafs fan with a fragile ego I welcome any feedback you guys have. Cheers!
17 Jun 2024 18:06:42
Marner is over valued here.
Marner for Saros maybe. I believe TO adds because of the cap difference.
17 Jun 2024 18:19:00
The return Marner gets will ultimately come down to whether it's a sign and trade or if he's given permission to negotiate an extension with the potential team before hand. Whatever that number is will determine what the return is. I think this is fairly accurate though.
17 Jun 2024 18:45:05
I agree MG, what I put together would be a draft day trade but waiting for free agency to start would open the door for a team to negotiate an extension and do a sign and trade deal with Toronto.
@Chazz keep in mind that although the $10.9m cap hit is huge, waiting until after July 1st also means Toronto is picking up his $7.250m signing bonus and it would likely increase the potential return for Marner.
18 Jun 2024 14:46:21
Fair value both ways.
I like it for both teams. Don’t see Marner waiving to go to Nashville not to resign there.
18 Jun 2024 17:54:53
I can see Marner waiving to strictly get out of Toronto. But no team should be willing to give up much unless there's an agreement to resign. He's a top player who can put up points and is for the most part very sound defensively. He had a horrible showing in the playoffs though and it definitely hurt his value.
End of the day he likely plays out his contract and hits the road. He's earned that right to do so. The amount of cap space that the Leafs will have come 2025 offseason is huge. And the 2025 free agency class has the potential to be one of the best. Though he'd be a huge loss something has to give cause the 'Pay four players north of $10mill' plan didn't work at all.
18 Jun 2024 19:39:01
I think if the Leafs hold off until after free agency opens to reach out to teams about Marner, they'll garner a lot more interest and might even get a few competitive offers from several teams.
The beauty about MLSE having such deep pockets is that they can afford to pay Marners signing bonus before a trade can materialize and it wouldn't even be an issue. Any team acquiring Marner is getting a player that makes $10.9 million on paper but 66% of that has already been paid up front in the bonus.
20 Jun 2024 20:08:22
Good post MG. You’re a fair-minded fan?.
11 Jun 2024 15:03:22
Nashville Trades
Saros
Toronto Trades
McMann
Liljegren
Samsonov (Rights)
Thoughts ?
11 Jun 2024 15:14:48
Not enough for Saros.
11 Jun 2024 15:25:44
What's worse than packaging Mcmann and Liljegren to try and get Carlson from Washington?
Packaging Mcmann and Liljegren with Samsonovs signing rights for Jusse freaking Saros.
There are at least 4 teams in on Saros right now and you think thus package is the best offer Nashville can get?
You know absolutely NOTHING about hockey. McMann has 66 career NHL games at 27 years old and has 25 career points, 24 of which came last year when he was called up. And you value him as being better than Nic Dowd (500 career NHL games and 149 points. )
You deserve all the negativity you get for being this braindead.
11 Jun 2024 15:50:10
LMac0420
I would be willing to add a 2026 first Round Pick if Nashville would be willing to add a 2024 2nd Rounder, so if that's the case.
Nashville Trades
Saros
2nd Round Pick 2024 (Jets Pick)
Toronto Trades
McMann
Liljegren
Samsonov (Rights)
1st Round Pick 2026
Yes that's very fair for Nashville and Toronto going forward, thanks for pointing out it wasn't enough, I agree Toronto would have to add that 1st Rounder for Saros.
11 Jun 2024 16:18:55
Honestly you’re not close.
Saros is a top 10 goalie in the league.
Samsonovs rights have no value (maybe a 7th round pick)
Mcmann is a 27 year old rookie whose value is probably 3rd liner
And Liljegren is a 5-6 defenceman maybe a 4 on a good day.
Nashville wouldn’t need to add a pick
Toronto adding a 1st still isn’t enough.
11 Jun 2024 16:57:44
Nashville fans would riot if Saros would be traded for such a lowball return, but you dont think about the other fanbase right?
11 Jun 2024 17:11:58
Get serious if you want Saros and offer up Marner. Saros is one of the top 10 goalies in the league, he's going to be worth more than your daily combination of RFAs and a late 1st round pick.
But I know you're too much of a coward to answer my comment so just keep pretending you've got a friend in LMac.
11 Jun 2024 18:14:30
Marner 50% retained to Florida for 7th round pick. That’s how your trades sound pinball.
11 Jun 2024 20:26:51
LMac0420
Askarov is Nashville's future not Saros, with that saying getting more than my proposal is truly a stretch here, Saros is on an expiring contract which means teams won't be selling the farm to get Saros, most on here overvalue trades thinking teams are getting so much in a trade and they usually never get anything close in this case Saros is truly worth.
You can disagree which you are entitled to do on here, but I do understand how transactions happen in The NHL and if anything Saros probably is moved for less.
11 Jun 2024 20:57:00
Unrelated to this offer at all but Pinball why are you adding Lilijgren to every leafs package? He is by far their best RHD in their system and is cost controlled. The leafs have absolutely zero reason to trade him and i guarantee they won’t. He’s a good dman and the leafs desperately need him being their only RHD under contract.
11 Jun 2024 21:08:05
vbb
Liljegren just hasn't worked out with Toronto, I like him to but Treliving will be changing it up and believe Liljegren will be traded to improve other areas, there is Myers, Pesce or even Dumba out there that are RHanded Shooting Defencemen that are UFAs, and I am sure that area will be addressed minus Liljegren imo.
11 Jun 2024 21:45:51
Pinball if Trotz gets less he’s fired.
Saros is a Top goalie in the NHL, has played 64+ games in each of the last 3 years, Vezina finalist and only 30. For a year of control @5 million and then the ability to sign him for max 8 years after.
You’re looking at giving up at LEAST a 1st Round Pick, Top Prospect, and a Young roster player. (1st Round Pick in 2024[23rd Overall], Easton Cowan and Timothey Liljegren)
Doesn’t matter if Askarov is the future, it doesn’t diminish Saros value.
12 Jun 2024 00:14:03
LMac: Pinball doesn't like trades that are fair for both teams though. It gets too complicated for him.
12 Jun 2024 08:34:22
Hahahahaha.
28 May 2024 21:38:41
Realistic Mitch Marner proposal
Chicago: Mitch Marner (resigned)
Toronto: one of Moore/Nazar/Richel/Rinzel, Alex Vlasic and Torontos 2025 1st (acquired in McCabe deal)
Chicago is rumoured to be interested in Marner along with Vegas/Nashville and another team mentioned by Kyprios
28 May 2024 22:22:58
To steep for Marner not worth that much future for a soft fringe player.
29 May 2024 00:02:02
Not realistic at all imo.
Marner is an Elite Top 5 RWinger in The NHL.
29 May 2024 01:01:49
So why if you are Chicago would you give up the youth for him, Still rebuilding. If they really want him wait a year and just pitch as a ufa. Remember the leafs are gonna take a hit to trade him as teams always have.
29 May 2024 13:08:19
Him signed at a reasonable cap hit holds value, a lot of it. All depends on what the cap hit is. If he is dealt it will be a sign and trade. No team is gonna give up a thing without knowing he's gonna be signed past this season.
29 May 2024 16:50:12
@Nashan- There is a very good chance he doesn’t want to hit the market. He hasn’t performed under pressure and there is a good chance he doesn’t want to play a full season knowing if he’s injured or underperforming it will lower what teams will offer. Signing in the offseason will assure security.
Why would a rebuilding team want Mitch Marner? Well that’s a question for Darren Dreiger who reported their interest. Marner being a an elite playmaker with the most puck strips (take aways) in the NHL beside an elite goal scorer in Bedard is very attractive.
Say what you will about his playoff performances where he is still a PPG player in his career 90+ point player will still command a big return. Not to the extent as leafs fans anticipate, they will be disappointed but this is in line and less then what Erik Karlsson returned when he was moved to San Jose
This package is actually similar to what Matt Duchene brought back when he was moved to Ottawa. Mitch Marner is a lot better then Duchene.