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07 Mar 2024 05:01:47
a little disappointed with the Hanifin return but the flames were handcuffed from Hanifin and his agent. I thought it would be much worse once i heard Tampa.

Hanifin for Conditional 1st, Conditional 3rd (basically a 2nd, lets be real) and Miromanov

Chychrun for Conditional 1st, 2nd and 2nd

Hronek for Conditional 1st and 2nd

pretty solid considering Chychrun and Hronek both had term and good AAV while Hanifin is a UFA.

07 Mar 2024 16:28:58
Yeah it's tough when your GM is handcuffed. Overall though, you had his services for a couple years and recouped some assets for a player that wanted out, all considered, Calgary did alright.

07 Mar 2024 16:41:31
@memarcusjoe yeah, Hanifin is definitely getting boos when they play against Vegas on the 14th. nobody likes what him and his agent was doing to Conroy. American players have become such a headache for the Flames. Hopefully they won’t have to worry when the new arena is finished and the retool is complete.

07 Mar 2024 19:47:38
Those 1sts in Chychrun and Hronek deals are both a lot higher then Vegas pick.

07 Mar 2024 20:39:58
That's true @Vbb but Hanifin is a UFA who got to pick his destination because his snake of an agent and he's older than when Chychrun and Hronek were traded.
I hope VGK uses the 2025 1st because the 2026 1st will be unprotected. So realistically if they trade that 2025 1st the Flames got an unprotected 2026 1st, 2025 2nd (if VGK wins a round) and Miromanov for a UFA that got to pick his destination. I don't think it was gonna get any better than that, Tampa was gonna fleece them so hard. It's a real shame Hanifin pulled this on the Flames but their ownership deserves it, they've got to be the worst owners in the league. They Conroy back out of the Markstrom deal when realistically we ain't making the playoffs, he's gonna get lit up behind this atrocious defense and his value will never be higher. NJ is willing to take his full salary and won't ask Conroy to take a contract, rumoured to be offering Holtz, 1st and 2nd. Flames will be mediocre forever if this ownership doesn't let Conroy do his job, sorry for the rant.

07 Mar 2024 21:58:05
CASUAL: I hear you, but when Hanifin kneecaps the GM like he did, it is bound to affect the return.

It could have been worse though, Tampa didn’t have much in assets to trade, so at least there’s that?.

07 Mar 2024 23:09:22
@Chickenfoot Yeah heard Flames went back to Tampa to tell them their offer from Vegas and Tampa panicked trying to up their offer but it was too late. Vegas basically asked the Flames what they wanted and offered up something similar. Glad they stepped in or Tampa would’ve taken advantage of a lose-lose situation for Calgary.

08 Mar 2024 02:08:07
CASUAL: absolutely Tampa would have taken advantage, and you have to admire Vegas’ absolute determination to win at any cost. I was impressed mostly by how Conroy and his team have handled their first deadline.

As usual, so many teams improved themselves SO much. It’s going to make for some great playoffs, and of course, some VERY disappointed fanbases when some very good teams are out in the first round.

09 Mar 2024 03:11:17
I don’t think his value was affected as much as you say. Yes he was being picky about where he was willing to resign which anyone would be but to my knowledge he had no trade protection so he could’ve went anywheres. He was traded as a rental because he is a rental.

09 Mar 2024 11:20:21
He had a modified NTC where he had an 8 team list of where he wouldn't go. Idk if Conroy allowed for communication to happen in regards to an extension with any team he was potentially going to then it definitely opened up the window for Hanafin to say: "I'm not signing an extension here. " I think he resigns with Vegas. Vegas will dump a contract for cheap like they did with Smith and be on their way.

18 Feb 2024 15:58:12
Tampa needs a defensemen to replace Sergachev and they have a history with David Savard. Maybe there could be a potential reunion?

TBL - 2025 2nd and 2024 5th
MTL - David Savard


Tampa has around 7.50M to make improvements throughout their lineup and I think Savard at 3.5M would make him an extremely attractive asset to any team. They would still have enough cap to make more potential moves.

I’m basing the value comparison to the Nikita Zadorov to VAN trade.

18 Feb 2024 18:44:24
I'd make Tanpa pay a little more. Do they have a 2024 1st? That's what I'd want for Big Play Dave .

19 Feb 2024 05:54:02
Savard would be a great add for anyone, but with Sergachev out now, they need a speedier D to pick up the slack.

20 Feb 2024 16:17:18
Unsure what Tampa's prospect pool looks like, but with Sergachev out a player like Chychrun or Hanifin would be ideal targets if they are wanting to add a higher end dman. With Chychrun you get some term as well. But again idk what the prospect pool looks like for Tampa or if they have the draft capital to make a deal happen.

20 Feb 2024 18:33:11
MG: I completely agree on Chychrun. Before the Sergachev injury I thought Savard was certainly on Tampa's radar. However, Chychrun has the wheels AND the skill, and Tampa doesn't have the trade pieces for both. (I posted a Chychrun to Tampa trade recently and I personally think he'll end up there. )

21 Feb 2024 12:37:36
@Chickenfoot had to go back quite a ways to find it. Unsure of Howard's overall value. I feel like he may be someone they want to hold onto. He definitely would need to be included in a Chychrun deal, but maybe they look at Hanifin who would likely cost less assets. Curious how it will play out for sure.

09 Feb 2024 19:43:49
TAM Trades:

- Howard
- 1st ('26)
- 2nd ('25)
- 3rd ('24)
- Myers (UFA/minor cap dump)
- Fleury (
- Shalagin (Unsigned)

OTT Trades:

- Chychrun
- Tarasenko (UFA/50% retention)


- TAM pays a price to replace Sergachev
- TAM includes some contracts to create contract space.
- Sergachev's injury creates the need and the cap space to do it.
- TAM will need to send one waiver exempt player to make the 23-man roster limit.
- OTT gets picks and the Bolts top prospect
- OTT recycles 2 guys not in their future plans for futures.

14 Feb 2024 18:04:34
So much wrong with this I don't know where to start?

For one who's Howard? Are you talking former Detroit Goalie Howard? If so Ottawa don't need a goalie.

For 2 Tampas picks aren't high enough to mean anything here

For 3 Chychrun ain't going anywhere, Chabot is more likely to be traded than Chychrun is, he litteraly already put the kaboosh on those dumb rumors.

And for 4 why is Ottawa retaining anything, let alone 50% on Taresenko when they are already taking back cap hit on Myers and Howard (if it is the goalie)? Ottawa don't have the space for that.

15 Feb 2024 01:39:07
Hahahaha…Howard is Tampa’s top prospect, not a goalie. ?.

05 Jan 2024 18:57:38
Tampa Bay Trades
Stamkos*

Toronto Trades
Jarnkrok
Kampf
Kokkonen (AHL)
1st Round Pick 2024

*Bolts retain 50% of Stamkos expiring contract.


Yes Toronto still have to make a move to improve the defense but this improves upfront huge.


Thoughts ?

05 Jan 2024 19:30:08
So, Stammer @50% for a bag of pucks and a first round pick. 100% not a chance.

05 Jan 2024 19:31:07
Stamkos is worth more to the Lightning, not saying this isn’t fair value but they most likely value him higher regardless if hes worth it or not.

05 Jan 2024 23:17:03
NotACasual
Stamkos is probably walking at the end of the season, TB looks to be lucky to make the playoffs this year if at all.
I believe Stamkos will be traded and why not Toronto.
Many trades over the last few years have gotten teams good players for a fraction of what most think could never happen and it has.
As for Nashan no comment as everything you said sounds like Kyle Clifford is the main piece in my proposal.

05 Jan 2024 23:36:50
My point is that those players have no value to Tampa is all.

06 Jan 2024 02:51:25
Zero chance this happens, nor should you want it to, as a leaf fan.

The leafs’ offense is abundant, but they can’t defend. If you’re going to blow a bunch of futures for one more shot, you address the glaring needs in net and on the blue line.

Typically the way trading works is to trade what you have excess of for what you lack. Respectfully, I don’t think I will ever understand how you see the game Pinball, but I am sure your GM will make a move that will better serve your team.

06 Jan 2024 14:13:42
If Stamkos is walking this offseason, I guarantee you that Brisebois will make him available and many teams will be calling. That offer is weak and isn't very enticing for Tampa. Stammer is worth at least a 1st and a blue chip prospect, even as a rental. The only way I could see this deal being done would be that, hypothetically, Stamkos has a very strict NTC that limits him to being traded to a handful of teams

06 Jan 2024 14:56:32
the stamkos situation will likely end up like patrick kane last season. here are 2 teams id consider, make it happen.

08 Jan 2024 00:01:40
@Chickenfoot if Will comes back and returns to form I think we likely end up running him and Jones the rest of the way. Don't see the goalie market having a game changer available come the deadline or one that really improves the Leafs. Leafs need a top right side dman or at least a top 4 right side dman. That being said I don't see us having the pieces to acquire one, seeing as Nylander is likely signing his new deal in the coming days. Wouldn't be mad if we added some two way depth to our forward group though for the final season stretch and into the playoffs.

08 Jan 2024 02:57:18
I don't think leaf should do this. But this is the kind of package Stamkos will get, he as a NMC, he decide wheres going. Like Giroux and Kane, TB won't get full value because Stamkos as the leverage.

16 Jun 2023 20:11:49
To Calgary Flames:
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 7 UFA )

To Tampa Bay Lightning:
C - Elias Lindholm ( 4.85 @ 1 UFA )
D - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 1 UFA )



J Huberdeau - B Point - T Toffoli
J Pelletier - N Kadri - M Coronato
A Mangiapane - M Backlund - B Coleman
A Ruzicka - D Dube - W Duehr

M Weegar - R Andersson
O Kylington - C Tanev
N Zadorov - T Stecher



S Stamkos - E Lindholm - N Kucherov
A Killorn - A Cirelli - B Hagel
T Jeannot - N Paul - C Perry
C Ross - M Eyssimont - P Maroon

V Hedman - M Sergachev
N Hanifin - E Cernak
Z Bogosian - N Perbix

18 Jun 2023 19:42:39
I know Tampa needs cap space, but they aren’t trading Point to get it. Especially for two guys in expiring deals.

21 May 2023 19:48:01
To Tampa Bay Lightning :
C - Elias Lindholm ( 4.85 @ 1 UFA )
LW - Andrew Mangiapane ( 5.80 @ 2 UFA )
16th Overall Selection in 2023 - CGY

To Calgary Flames :
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 7 UFA )



Steven Stamkos - Elias Lindholm - Nikita Kucherov
Andrew Mangiapane - Anthony Cirelli - Brandon Hagel
Alex Killorn - Nick Paul - Tanner Jeannot
Patrick Maroon - Michael Eyssimont - Corey Perry

Victor Hedman - Erik Cernak
Mikhail Sergachev - Nick Perbix
Haydn Fleury - Zach Bogosian


That Mangiapane-Cirelli-Hagel line would be so annoying to play against. Lightning flip the 1st round pick for another piece to help them contend.

21 May 2023 21:29:41
Tampa bay laughs at this offer or any offer for point.

21 May 2023 22:30:27
Why Vbb? Lindholm is a 60-80pt player, Mangiapane is a 40-60pt player, Point is a 100pt player. A pretty decent first round pick and all the players are pretty much the same age.

Point (27yrs old)
Mangiapane (27yrs old)
Lindholm (28yrs old)

22 May 2023 08:20:44
Because Tampa bay won 2 cups with their current core and they will ride the core into the sun.

He literally just signed a 8 year contract so why would they trade a 100 point defensive star for anything. Even if the oilers were to offer McDavid+++++ for Point sometimes it’s more then just business and you got to keep the family together.

Point, Kucherov and Hedman will retire tampa bay lightning players.

23 May 2023 16:32:01
I think it’s a great offer, I just don’t think it’s really necessary for Tampa Bay- their current core is solid so why make a move?

23 May 2023 22:01:34
@HockeyDad that’s a good point, my bad.

19 May 2023 00:10:04
To TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING :
D - Nikita Zadorov ( 3.75 @ 1 UFA )

To CALGARY FLAMES :
2nd Round Pick in 2025 - TBL
3rd Round Pick in 2024 - TBL


To SAN JOSE SHARKS :
G - Daniel Vladar ( 2.20 @ 2 UFA )

To CALGARY FLAMES :
3rd Round Pick in 2023 - CAR

19 May 2023 05:30:54
Retain 50% and value looked decent on the first trade. Are the Lightening losing any D? Might want to look to spend cap on forwards instead.
Vladar has zero value at 2.2M. Goalies have little value to begin with and a backup has even less. A backup making 2.2 is even less, at 25 he’d be worth taking a shot at but I don’t know what his value would look like.

13 May 2023 05:04:55
To TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING :
C - Elias Lindholm ( 4.85 @ 1 UFA )
LW - Andrew Mangiapane ( 5.80 @ 2 UFA )
16th Overall Selection in 2023

To CALGARY FLAMES :
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 7 UFA )

19 Jan 2023 19:29:37
Since Karlsson seems to be back in form, I was looking at the possibility of teams trading for him at the deadline. That 11.5M AAV contract is hard to fit under the cap for most teams, but with a little bit of salary retention it might make a trade more manageable

SJS : Karlsson - 25% retained - 8.62AAV

TBL : 2025 1st round pick, 2023 3rd round pick, Nolan Foote, Isaac Howard
Cap dumps : Vlad Namestnikov (2.5M AAV expiring 2023), Ian Cole (3M AAV expiring 2023), Philippe Myers (2.55M AAV expiring 2024)

Doubt this trade ever happens, for three reasons:
1- Tampa bay depletes their prospect pool until 2025
2- Tampa bay will close to 30M in cap space only used for their defense top 4
3- If Karlsson goes back to his last three seasons production, they're stuck with a 8.62M AAV contract for the next four years.
BUT
Boy oh boy would that TB top 4 be fun to watch :

Hedman - Karlsson
Sergachev - Cernak

That's a championship defense

19 Jan 2023 23:07:34
Well stated and supported Matador (as usual) .

Karlsson is definitely having a bounce-back year, no question. We all favour (or not) certain players, and through no fault of his own, I just don’t trust that bum wheel of his to not flare up again.

Karlsson IS worthy of accolades this year, but for me, it’s just such a huge gamble to bet on Captain Morgan and his bad hoof. It’s like getting the muffler on your University beater welded instead of replaced: it could be fine for 20,000 km or it could last 20 days.

19 Jan 2023 23:09:15
2- Tampa bay will have close to 30M in salary tied up with their defensive top 4*

Sorry i just had woken up when I made the post. Fixed the wording

26 Jul 2022 20:34:40
Jets
Scheifele
Demelo
Seattle
Mccan
Oleksiak

Jets
Wheeler
2nd-2024
2nd 2025
Tampa
Maroon
Paul

Jets
Stanley
3rd-2025
5th-2025
Vegas
Stephenson
Carrier

Lines
Perfetti-dubois-connor
Paul-stephenson-ehlers
Appleton-lowry-mccan
Carrier-maroon-Harkins or barron

Morrissey-pionk
Schmidt-Henoila
Dillon-oleksiak

Hellebuyck
Rittich

Jets should also sign more free agents to boost their forward depth a bit more and hopefully have a good playoff run.

26 Jul 2022 21:10:07
The Jets have no reason to give Scheifele and DeMelo away for unneeded pieces.

Tampa isn't doing that.

Vegas isn't doing that.

13 Jul 2022 04:42:57
( CGY - BOS )
To Calgary Flames :
LW - Taylor Hall ( 6.00 @ 3 UFA )

To Boston Bruins :
LD - Noah Hanifin ( 4.95 @ 2 UFA )


( CGY - TBL )
To Calgary Flames :
C/RW - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 8 UFA )

To Tampa Bay Lightning :
LW/RW - Matthew Tkachuk ( RFA )


( CGY - WPG )
To Calgary Flames :
LD - Josh Morrissey ( 6.25 @ 6 UFA )

To Winnipeg Jets :
LD - Oliver Kylington ( RFA )
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 1 UFA )
2023 - First Round Draft Pick


( CGY - CLB )
To Calgary Flames :
LD - Jake Bean ( 2.33 @ 2 RFA )

To Columbus Blue Jackets :
C - Topi Ronni ( unsigned )
2023 - Second Round Draft Pick
RW - Eetu Tuulola ( unsigned )


( CGY - CHI )
To Calgary Flames :
LD - Riley Stillman ( 1.35 @ 2 RFA )

To Chicago Blackhawks :
LD - Juuso Valimaki ( 1.55 @ 2 RFA )


( CGY - COL )
To Calgary Flames :
LW/RW - Logan O’Connor ( 1.05 @ 3 UFA )

To Colorado Avalanche :
C/RW - Glenn Gawdin ( RFA )
C - Cole Huckins ( unsigned )





T Hall - B Point - E Lindholm
A Mangiapane - M Backlund - T Toffoli
L O’Connor - B Coleman - D Dube
M Lucic - A Ruzicka - M Phillips

J Morrissey - R Andersson
J Bean - C Tanev
R Stillman - E Gudbranson

J Markstrom
D Vladar

13 Jul 2022 05:30:14
I don't like any of those trades.

13 Jul 2022 11:28:40
Jets are not trading Morrissey.

13 Jul 2022 12:54:43
It was several trades to bring Calgary boys Back home.

13 Jul 2022 13:11:33
Not enough for Winnipeg. You're compensating Winnipeg with a 1st for taking Monahan, but there is no chance the Jets trade Morrissey for Kylington.

13 Jul 2022 15:26:56
Calgary won't be giving anyone a first round pick to take Monahan. Even Treliving would simply buy him out long before doing something that stupid.

13 Jul 2022 16:11:32
Why would the Jets trade their best d-man for that package?

13 Jul 2022 16:14:02
I like the idea of Bringing Calgary Boys Home; Guys who might actually want to be & play in CGY. See Ya Johnny!

13 Jul 2022 17:45:06
Yeah they were trade ideas out of pure frustration

14 Jul 2022 02:04:49
I hear ya NotACasual, not that impressed with the Draft or today thus far.

Pacioretti went to Carolina for absolutely nothing, would be nice to get a Cap Dump deal like that.

What does CLB do now, let Laine walk? They have to move somebody, maybe Voracek, Nyquist or Bjorkstrand instead!?

Are we interested in Kadri or Ryan Strome?

Definitely not a Great Off-Season for the Flames so far FML ?‍♂️.

14 Jul 2022 02:20:00
Typical Treliving focuses on the wrong thing and loses out on everything else.

14 Jul 2022 04:07:21
Why in the heck did they give Gudbranson 4M?! Especially before getting Laine signed! Columbus should’ve stayed course with all there young talent and not signed contracts that’ll be way to expensive in 3 years when there getting ready to contend.

14 Jul 2022 04:29:16
Still a few guys of interest out there:
M. Kadri
D. Strome
P. Stastny
E. Rodriguez
D. Heinen
C. Jarnkrok
V. Rask (Former Hitmen)
J. Larsson
P. Kessel

AND ON DEFENSE:
J. Klingberg
PK Subban
R. Murray
M. Stone
R. Hagg
J. Johnson
Austin Strand (from Calgary)

14 Jul 2022 04:58:47
Gudbranson deserved a raise but that was too much. Maybe Gaudreau wanted them to pick up Gudbranson so he'd have someone he knows can protect him.

14 Jul 2022 05:00:33
Also Kekalainen is about as shrewd as they come. I bet he didn't give little johnny a full NTC, maybe the plan is to flip him to NJ, Philly or something for more once one of them can afford his cap hit.

05 Jul 2022 06:54:01
To Calgary Flames :
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 8 UFA )

To Tampa Bay Lightning :
LW/RW - Andrew Mangiapane ( RFA )
LD - Oliver Kylington ( RFA )
First Round Pick in 2023
RD - Jake Boltmann ( unsigned )


Florida teams can sign players cheaper than any other team due to State Taxes so I think it would interest them a lot. Mangiapane and Kylington’s work ethic is something that I think Tampa would really like to have. I added Boltmann just for the memes, Boltmann on the Bolts. I’d also really like to see Cirelli, Hagel and Mangiapane.



Ondrej Palat - Steven Stamkos - Nikita Kucherov

Andrew Mangiapane - Anthony Cirelli - Brandon Hagel

Alex Killorn - Nick Paul - Alex Barre-Boulet

Patrick Maroon - Ross Colton - Corey Perry


Victor Hedman - Erik Cernak

Oliver Kylington - Mikhail Sergachev

Zach Bogosian - Philippe Myers

05 Jul 2022 17:51:03
Mangiapane stays in Calgary, unless we get a crazy good offer for him.

05 Jul 2022 18:15:39
Like Point? Lol Tampa is doing other things to get under cap so no way they do this.

05 Jul 2022 20:12:07
@Ebsolutely Point for Mangiapane sure but that's not what the OP proposed. The OP is basically the equivalent of Mangiapane, 2 firsts and w/ e Boltman is worth (not a whole lot) plus Mangiapane is worth at least a mid first himself.

Besides Tampa won't be trading Point anyhow.

05 Jul 2022 21:21:25
Given his Size, Performance this year + Injuries over the past 3 years (including a Hip Surgery) Mang + Kylington (Equivalent to TWO Mid-to-High 1st RD Picks + a 2nd Round Pick) would be the absolute max I'd offer and only if Gaudreau or Forsberg can't be signed at no or little acquisition cost.

01 Jul 2022 09:06:00
If I was GM and I knew 100% that Gaudreau was going to leave in Free Agency. This is how I would retool.


( TBL - CGY )
To Tampa Bay Lightning :
LW - Andrew Mangiapane ( RFA )
LD - Oliver Kylington ( RFA )
First Round Pick in 2023
RD - Jeremy Poirier ( ELC )

To Calgary Flames :
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 8 UFA )


( STL - CGY )
To St Louis Blues :
LW/RW - Matthew Tkachuk ( RFA )
LD - Juuso Valimaki ( 1.55 @ 1 RFA )

To Calgary Flames :
RW - Jordan Kyrou ( 2.80 @ 1 RFA )
23RD Overall Selection in 2022
LW - Jake Neighbours ( ELC )



Flames Free Agent Signings :
LW - Filip Forsberg ( 9.00 @ 7 UFA )
LD - Ben Chiarot ( 4.80 @ 6 UFA )
RD - Erik Gudbranson ( 3.00 @ 4 UFA )

Buy Out :
C - Sean Monahan ( 6.37 @ 1 UFA )




Filip Forsberg - Elias Lindholm - Jordan Kyrou

Jakob Pelletier - Brayden Point - Tyler Toffoli

Jake Neighbours - Mikael Backlund - Blake Coleman

Milan Lucic - Adam Ruzicka - Dillon Dube


Noah Hanifin - Rasmus Andersson

Ben Chiarot - Chris Tanev

Connor Mackey - Erik Gudbranson


Jacob Markstrom

Dan Vladar

01 Jul 2022 10:24:24
I wouldn't trade that much for Point and I wouldn't take so little for Tkachuk.

If I'm trading Tkachuk any deal with St Louis would have to start with Thomas not Kyrou. Plus a first and at least one more player, pick or prospect. But before trading Matthew anywhere I'd check with NJ to find out if he'd be worth the 2nd OA + a player like Zacha or Sharangovich and something else to them.

The free agent signings would be fine, especially Forsberg and Gudbranson. Chiarot would ok too but if Zadorov can be signed for less than Chiarot I'd rather just resign Z. Zadorov had a poor start in Calgary but he was playing a lot better by the end of the year and he's 4 years younger (27 vs 31).

01 Jul 2022 12:23:08
@moxnix if they traded Tkachuk to jersey then I’d wanna see that 2ND OVR + Alexander Holtz and maybe Ty Smith coming back

01 Jul 2022 12:48:39
Holtz would be fine, they can keep smith.

01 Jul 2022 13:02:39
Good value on trades.
I don’t see why TBL should give up Point or why Calgary should give up Matty. They’re both contender teams and should keep the stars.

02 Jul 2022 04:51:42
Apparently the offer to Gaudreau is 8.5 mil/ yr for 8 years for 68 million in total.

A team trading for his rights could give him the same contract and save 1.214 mil/ yr over what it would cost to give him the same total money on a 7 year contract.

01 Jul 2022 08:47:42
( TBL - CGY )
To Tampa Bay Lightning :
LW - Andrew Mangiapane ( RFA )
LD - Oliver Kylington ( RFA )
First Round Pick in 2023

To Calgary Flames :
C - Brayden Point ( 9.50 @ 8 UFA )


( TBL - NJD )
To Tampa Bay Lightning :
2ND Overall Selection in 2022
C - Pavel Zacha ( RFA )

To New Jersey Devils :
LD - Ryan McDonagh ( 6.75 @ 4 UFA )


Tampa is going to be trading McDonagh soon due to cap issues. These trades give them leverage with contracts due to Florida’s no tax. They can sign these players cheaper than they’d get in any other market. They’d most likely select Juraj Slafkovsky with the 2ND Overall Pick and replace Ondrej Palat. A line of Mangiapane, Cirelli and Hagel would be so incredibly good aswell. McDonagh to the Devils would make a lot of sense, they have made it known that they want a LHD to play with Hamilton and they have the cap space. So Devils pick up a solid Top 4 LHD with cup experience.



Juraj Slafkovsky - Steven Stamkos - Nikita Kucherov

Andrew Mangiapane - Anthony Cirelli - Brandon Hagel

Alex Killorn - Pavel Zacha - Nick Paul

Patrick Maroon - Ross Colton - Corey Perry


Victor Hedman - Erik Cernak

Oliver Kylington - Mikhail Sergachev

Jan Rutta - Zach Bogosian

01 Jul 2022 19:44:25
Overpays by Calgary and NJ.

26 May 2022 21:33:59
TBL:
McDonagh

LA:
Couple picks? One of their young guys? (Moore, Kaliev, etc)
What do y'all think the return would have to be?

If Tampa has some cap problems this off-season I think a potential McDonagh trade could happen. I don't think he is a bad player or anything, Tampa just already has Sergachev and Hedman on the left.

LA has 3 pending UFA defenceman and 3 pending RFA defenceman. I think they are good suiters here. I don't think they will want to give up a lot of their youth here but picks could be in play.

27 May 2022 02:06:40
I don’t think it would take much. Moore and a 3rd maybe?

27 May 2022 05:21:04
I don’t think there cap situation is much different then it was this year is it? I don’t think they’ll have to move McDonagh, he’s too important.

27 Feb 2022 22:12:45
If Toronto wanted to pull a Tampa/ Vegas with cap circumvention.


To Toronto Maple Leafs :
LD - Alec Martinez ( 5.25 @ 3 UFA )
(2023) Second Round Selection

To Vegas Golden Knights :
LD - Travis Dermott ( 1.50 @ 2 RFA )



To Toronto Maple Leafs :
RW/ LW - Kevin Labanc ( 4.72 @ 3 UFA )

To San Jose Sharks :
(2022) Third Round Selection
LW - Nicholas Robertson ( ELC )
LW/ C - Pierre Engvall ( 1.25 @ 1 RFA )



Labanc is on LTIR with a shoulder injury, Martinez is on LTIR with a face injury. San Jose makes the trade because they are obvious sellers at the deadline, Vegas makes the trade because they’ll have to make cap room next season.


PLAYOFF LINE COMBINATIONS :


Michael Bunting - Auston Matthews - Mitch Marner
Kevin Labanc - John Tavares - William Nylander
Ilya Mikheyev - Alexander Kerfoot - Ondrej Kase
Jason Spezza - David Kampf - Wayne Simmonds

Morgan Rielly - TJ Brodie
Jake Muzzin - Justin Holl
Alec Martinez - Ilya Lybushkin

Jack Campbell
Petr Mrazek


It would be good to see Toronto go out and try to get a good shot blocker for the playoffs. Maybe Petr Mrazek for Kris Russell?

20 Jul 2021 19:57:44
Habs Trade Price 3.5m retain
Seatle send lauzon-kukhonen and pick Byron


Habs- 2 Nd pick and 3rd pick 2021


Tampa- gourde-joseph

Habs- Drouin - Primeau- 2nd pick 2022

Buff- ristolanen

Habs sign Hoffman 2year 9m
Perry 1year 1.5m
Armia 3year 10m


Anderson-suzuki-caufield
Hoffman-kotkaniemi-toffoli
Joseph-gourde-gallagher
Armia-evans-perry

Edmunson-petry
Chiarot-ristolanen
Romanov-lauzon

Khukonen-allen

20 Jul 2021 22:19:33
So Seattle gives up 2 players for a guy they can have for free?

21 Jul 2021 15:59:41
I like the additions of Gourde and Hoffman. Instead of adding Hoffman though, I'd shoot for Landeskog instead. He is younger, a better leader, more solid 2 way player, and can average 60-70 points a season. Hoffman is too one dimensional like Cammalleri was.

22 Jul 2021 00:34:47
Landeskog isn't going anywhere unless someone offers 9 mil a year.

22 Jul 2021 03:00:46
And not just for 2 years either, he wants term too. He'll wind up settling for a lot less than 9 mil and probably stay in Colorado.

22 Jul 2021 03:30:48
The retain, major.

13 Jul 2021 22:30:04
Montreal
Caufield
Suzuki


Tampa Bay
Kucherov

14 Jul 2021 02:34:14
This sounds more like a trade Peter o toole would attempt to make.

14 Jul 2021 04:02:58
Let’s trade two young players for the most hated man in Montreal.

14 Jul 2021 15:45:05
Kucherov wouldn’t be hated after he steps foot in Montreal and wins an art Ross.

14 Jul 2021 21:52:09
Who's going to center him to that art Ross? It would be Suzuki.

13 Jul 2021 19:26:30
Where do Parise and Ryan Sutter go? My guess Parise goes to islanders and Suter goes to Tampa or the aves.

13 Jul 2021 21:04:32
I think you're right on the money Nylander.

13 Jul 2021 22:34:16
I’d be ok with habs making a pitch for suter. he’s still got some game left in him.

14 Jul 2021 00:20:48
Wondering if Suter considers going to Montreal to reunite with Weber. They are both much older since they last played together but it would be interesting to see.

As for Parise, I could see him on the Islanders for sure or maybe Vegas signs him for cheap.

14 Jul 2021 01:25:18
Very good guesses honestly, I could see it.

14 Jul 2021 21:56:22
If rangers trade for eichel, giving up kakko i see them going after parise. Otherwise penguins. And I think Suter is headed to Panthers.

13 Jul 2021 14:04:22
More Mock Sens trades:
Buf: 10OA, Sharks 2nd, Daccord
Ott: Reinhart (5x6AAV)
Buffalo gets two solid rebuilding picks and a backup goalie to develop.
Ottawa gets a centre/winger who can play on one of the top 2 lines and who is young enough to fit their timeline.

Col: Kadri
Ott: Logan Brown, Ottawa 2022 3rd, Tampa 2022 3rd
I see this as an expansion draft move, Avalanche have a lot of players that will need protection. They trade Kadri for a player they won't need to protect and who could potentially be picked by Seattle. They also get two picks.
Ottawa gets an established 2C/3C who can put up points and lead the youth.

13 Jul 2021 16:39:59
At tgis point I would think avs are stuck with Kadri.

13 Jul 2021 18:47:53
Kadri is worth more than that to the Avs, they'll protect him and leave donskoi/ compher unprotected.

13 Jul 2021 19:09:38
No chance Reinhart signs for less than 6.5-7 AAV.

13 Jul 2021 18:47:53
Kadri is worth more than that to the Avs, they'll protect him and leave donskoi/ compher unprotected.

13 Jul 2021 19:09:38
No chance Reinhart signs for less than 6.5-7 AAV.

13 Jul 2021 19:23:25
@Vertius I figure Reinhart gets 6-6.5 but he might get as much as 7.

14 Jul 2021 20:55:46
If Buffalo likes Daccord I think they'd do the Reinhart trade. But if they don't like him they probably ask for someone Ottawa really doesn't want to part with. A young top 6 forward.

I can't see Colorado moving Kadri for that.

14 Jul 2021 21:57:45
Kadri has the tools to be a good playoff performer, but this isn't his first key suspension.

15 Jul 2021 01:45:17
Here's a line for the playoffs.

Evander Kane - personm Kadri - Matthew Tkachuk.

 
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